Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Manveru]

2009/8/16 Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, 15 Aug 2009,
 =?UTF-8?B?RnJlZGVyaWNrIE5vcm9uaGEgW+ClnuCksOClh+CkpuCksOCkv+CklSDgpKjgpYvgpLDgpYs=?=
 ] wrote:

 Any good source from which to download Lyx tip sheets? Many thanks, FN

 What do you mean by a 'tip sheet'?

I think he means a small sheet with keyboard shortcuts we remember
from ancient DOS times for WordPerfect or QuattroPro. I remember even
such mountable on keyboard which surround function keys on top and
offers couple small sheets. It allowed to select page depending of the
mode of application.

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Re: Lyx Xetex and otf

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jommelli Niccolò wrote:
 I have been trying to use XeTex with an otf font but  I cannot get
 Lyx/xetex to use it. I installed the otf in the open type font directory of
 MikTex, but nothing. Even if I declare the font family at the beginning of
 the document, Lyx/xetex cannot find it and I get the blank pdf.
 How do I get Lyx to use XeTex with otf and ttf fonts properly?

Could you post the LaTeX log file?

Jürgen

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Manveru]

2009/8/15 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com:
 On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:

 Joe wrote:


 In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
 Any advice is appreciated.

 I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png




 I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png

 It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.



 This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then the
 add or modify button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the From
 format to DVI and To format to LaTeX (plain), then the Add button
 will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI--LaTeX converter (??).
 Alternatively, if you click on DVI -- Postscript and then add something
 in the Extra flag box, then the Modify button will be enabled.

 As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a better
 system.

If I may suggest something, that could be done in more intuitive ways:

1. More Eclipse approach: Create edit button and do additional dialog
for editing.

2. Keep fields for typing converter parameters disabled. Then when
clicked New - create new row with name 'New Converter', select it,
enable all fields to type and commit button. When clicked edit just
enable the fields to edit and the commit button. Display an question
dialog box when someone clicked on the list of converters above or the
menu of options about abandoning changes. That would be more intuitive
in my opinion.


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Re: Question about command sequences

[Pavel Sanda]

Venable wrote:
 Hi Pavel,
 
 Thanks for the tip. I looked at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxFunctions
 but there was not much in the way of direction there. Could you
 possibly give me a bit more insight?

if you have lyx 1.6, then look into help-lyx functions menu.
pavel

Re: problem with default margin

[Guenter Milde]

On 2009-08-16, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

  I have a work in custom page size and custom margin. I have to try
  with Us letter and A4 page size and when I selected default margin I
  have 1,5 o 2 inchs margin. If I give a look to the source I cannot see
  \usepackage{geometry} with margin set in the preamble. 

If you select [x] default for the margins, 'geometry' is not used.

The margin is determinded by the document class based on page size and
eventually type size (10, 11, or 12 points) and global options.

  These enormous margins are an error or is the awaited thing?

With some document classes, wide margins are the default. This is
because lines with more than 80 characters reduce the readability of
your document.

How do you select the *margin* in the preamble?

Günter

Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[John Kane]

Also sometimes known as a cheat sheet.  Here is an example from R

http://cran.r-project.org/doc/contrib/refcard.pdf

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Manveru manv...@manveru.pl wrote:

 From: Manveru manv...@manveru.pl
 Subject: Re: Lyx tip-sheets
 To: Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 4:15 AM
 2009/8/16 Christian Ridderström
 christian.ridderst...@gmail.com:
  On Sat, 15 Aug 2009,
 
 =?UTF-8?B?RnJlZGVyaWNrIE5vcm9uaGEgW+ClnuCksOClh+CkpuCksOCkv+CklSDgpKjgpYvgpLDgpYs=?=
  ] wrote:
 
  Any good source from which to download Lyx tip
 sheets? Many thanks, FN
 
  What do you mean by a 'tip sheet'?
 
 I think he means a small sheet with keyboard shortcuts we
 remember
 from ancient DOS times for WordPerfect or QuattroPro. I
 remember even
 such mountable on keyboard which surround function keys on
 top and
 offers couple small sheets. It allowed to select page
 depending of the
 mode of application.
 
 -- 
 Manveru
 jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
      gg: 1624001
    http://www.manveru.pl
 


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Re: Where is the export directory

[rgheck]

On 08/17/2009 12:15 AM, Stephen Winters wrote:

rgheck wrote:

On 08/16/2009 11:11 AM, Stephen Winters wrote:

Hi,
I'm Using Lyx 1.6.3 on Windows Vista Home edition. I have enable the 
Open Document export function. However, whenever I export a document 
(FileExportOpenDocument) Lyx appears to export the document 
(mouse pointer turns into an hourglass), but I haven't been able to 
locate where the document gets located to. Can you help me find the 
export folder?


You're probably running into one of a variety of well-known bugs that 
afflict ODT export on Windows. This is not a LyX issue so much as it 
is a tex4ht issue. That said, you might look in your temporary 
directory and see if LyX for some reason left the ODT there.


rh



Hi RH,
 Thanks for your response, and thank you telling me about the bugs. 
However, could you or someone else tell me where the STANDARD Export 
Folder for ANY type of export?



It should go to the document directory.

By the way, I looked in the User NameAppDataLocalTemp  directory 
and could not find any exports, including the ODT file.



Is that the temporary directory LyX uses? I'm not on Windows so don't know.

You may also be hitting a different bug with tex4ht, which seems just 
not to work on Windows for some people. LyX uses a program called 
htlatex (part of the tex4ht package) to do the conversion to ODT, and 
there are lots of reports of problems with it. As a workaround, you 
might try export to RTF instead.


rh

Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

  Someone local has developed his own solution for preparing and displaying
slides during presentations. He uses a browser for the display and type size
of 60pt-120pt. I mentioned that I use the Beamer class with whatever the
default type size is and the results are readable in all room sizes in which
I've been.

  But, he asked if LaTeX (or TeX itself) can scale type to 60-120pt and have
it look as smooth as smaller sizes. I've never done this, nor am I sure just
how to go about testing whether it can be done, so I'm asking here. I have a
vague recollection of reading about using LaTeX to prepare posters or
banners, but that was a while ago and I may well be mistaken.

  Could such large type sizes be cleaning rendered by TeX?

Rich

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Re: Lyx and Japanese (no matter how hard I try there are always some problems)

[Yokota K.]

Most popular way to do is to install pTeX if you are thinking of
writing Japanese as a main task. pTeX also includes normal TeX, so in
most of cases it suffices to do. What kind of errors did you get when
you tried it?

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Les Denham]

On Monday 17 August 2009, Rich Shepard wrote:
  But, he asked if LaTeX (or TeX itself) can scale type to 60-120pt and have
 it look as smooth as smaller sizes. I've never done this, nor am I sure
 just how to go about testing whether it can be done, so I'm asking here. I
 have a vague recollection of reading about using LaTeX to prepare posters
 or banners, but that was a while ago and I may well be mistaken.

    Could such large type sizes be cleaning rendered by TeX?

The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF 
generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.

Looks clean to me.

I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a small 
font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very successfully by 
creating them page size, then plotting with a scale factor.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
attachment: LargeFont.png

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Les Denham wrote:


The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF
generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.

Looks clean to me.

I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a small
font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very successfully by
creating them page size, then plotting with a scale factor.


  Thank you, Les. I've forwarded your message to the fellow who asked the
question. It seems to me that a PostScript font can be scaled to any desired
size since it's an outline rather than bit-mapped.

Much appreciated,

Rich

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Re: Maximum Font Size

[Stefano Franchi]

On Monday 17 August 2009 10:38:36 am Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Les Denham wrote:
  The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF
  generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.
 
  Looks clean to me.
 
  I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a
  small font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very
  successfully by creating them page size, then plotting with a scale
  factor.


All typographers and font designers routinely complain that bigger font   
scaled up font (and viceversa), because the typeface features must be manually 
adjusted to convey the same look in different sizes. However, I doubt that 
considerations of typographic beauty play a a large role when making a poster.

S.

Thank you, Les. I've forwarded your message to the fellow who asked the
 question. It seems to me that a PostScript font can be scaled to any
 desired size since it's an outline rather than bit-mapped.

 Much appreciated,

 Rich

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Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Paul A. Rubin]

One problem with this is that so much of the interface is configurable, 
so a cheat-sheet of key combinations will be incorrect fairly 
frequently.  Some enterprising soul might be able to write a script that 
scanned the ui and bind files in use and created one on the fly, I suppose.


/Paul

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Stefano Franchi wrote:


All typographers and font designers routinely complain that bigger font
 scaled up font (and viceversa), because the typeface features must be
manually adjusted to convey the same look in different sizes. However, I
doubt that considerations of typographic beauty play a a large role when
making a poster.


Stefano,

  What started this is the use of a Web browser for display of presentation
visuals by one of the local computer professionals. He apparently likes to
have only a few words (6, apparently) per slide and in a very large size.
He cannot write the text using OO.o and have the resulting huge text look
smooth at those sizes. I suggested he consider using the beamer class in
LyX/LaTeX, but he is interested only in generating anti-aliased huge
characters for his browser-based presentation. I think that as long at the
edges look smooth he'll be happy.

Thanks,

Rich

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Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Pavel Sanda]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 One problem with this is that so much of the interface is configurable, so 
 a cheat-sheet of key combinations will be incorrect fairly frequently.  
 Some enterprising soul might be able to write a script that scanned the ui 
 and bind files in use and created one on the fly, I suppose.

we have inset-info for this purpose.
i think some kind of such a sheet is in Help-Shortcuts, probably
not with the newwest features and their shortcuts - but of course
we are open to get updated list from the users :)

pavel

rename - list of algorithms

[Ricardo Perrone]

Hi,

I need to rename the list of algorithms to a more convenient name. For example: 
List of Algorithms --- Lista de Códigos (in Portuguese/Brazil language), but 
default Lyx behaviour changes it to 'Lista de Algoritmos' when i set default 
language to Portuguese (Brazil). I have tried to use ERT command 
\listof{algorithm}{Lista de Códigos}, but it was necessary to take out  
\usepackage{hyperref} to avoid some problems and the final result was not so 
good, because the algorithm's counter was reset to the begining. Anybody knows 
how can i solve this?

Thanks a lot
Ricardo

Res: toc - page numbering

[Marcelo Boss]

Try this:
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\thispagestyle{empty}}

(Not it the preamble)

Regards
Marcelo





De: rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com
Para: Ricardo Perrone perr...@rocketmail.com
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 17 de Agosto de 2009 0:58:28
Assunto: Re: toc - page numbering

On 08/16/2009 11:19 PM, Ricardo Perrone wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I want to set the page counter to start from 12th page (Here, the first page 
 relative to the first chapter). From 1st to 10th I removed the page numbering 
 with \pagestyle{empty} at the document begining, but when i include 
 \tableofcontents at 11th page, the page numbering appears at the end of page. 
 How can i remove this numbering on TOC page and force the page numbering 
 appears only from 12th page? I tried ERT command (\pagestyle and 
 \thispagestyle) but didn't work. For this document I'm using book.cls template
 

The \tableofcontents command in book.cls is defined like this:
\newcommand\tableofcontents{%
\...@twocolumn
\...@restonecoltrue\onecolumn
\else
\...@restonecolfalse
\fi
\chapter*{\contentsname
\...@mkboth{%
\MakeUppercase\contentsname}{\MakeUppercase\contentsname}}%
\...@starttoc{toc}%
\...@restonecol\twocolumn\fi
}
The important part is that it formats the heading, Table of Contents, using 
\chapter*. So if we look at that:
\newcommand\chapter{...@openright\cleardoublepage\else\clearpage\fi
\thispagestyle{plain}%
\glob...@topnum\z@
\...@afterindentfalse
\secd...@chapter\@schapter}
This gets called both for \chapter and for \chapter*. Note how it sets the page 
style.

Getting around this will probably involve both (i) redefining the 
\tableofcontents macro so that it does not call \chapter* but instead, say, a 
new command, \tochapter and (ii) defining that new command. You might try 
something like this:
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
\...@twocolumn
\...@restonecoltrue\onecolumn
\else
\...@restonecolfalse
\fi
\tochapter{\contentsname
\...@mkboth{%
\MakeUppercase\contentsname}{\MakeUppercase\contentsname}}%
\...@starttoc{toc}%
\...@restonecol\twocolumn\fi
}
\newcommand\tochapter{...@openright\cleardoublepage\else\clearpage\fi
\thispagestyle{empty}%
\glob...@topnum\z@
\...@afterindentfalse
\...@schapter}
I've basically just copied everything over and changed a few bits here and 
there.

Are you sure you don't just want to use \frontmatter and \mainmatter, though?

rh


  

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Re: problem with default margin

[Marcelo Acuña]

  I have a work in custom
page size and custom
  margin. I have to try
  with Us letter and A4 page size and when I
  selected default margin I
  have 1,5 o 2 inchs margin. If I give a look to
  the source I cannot see
  \usepackage{geometry} with margin set in the
 preamble. 
  
 If you select [x] default for the margins, 'geometry'
 is not used.
 The margin is determinded by the document class based
 on page size and
 eventually type size (10, 11, or 12 points) and
 global options.
  
  These enormous margins are an error or is the
  awaited thing?
  
 With some document classes, wide margins are the
 default. This is
 because lines with more than 80 characters reduce the
 readability of your document.
 
I selected two columns, thus are no readability problems.
  
 How do you select the *margin* in the preamble?
 Günter

 I watched the source in the part of the preamble and saw
 the appropriate command.
 
 Marcelo



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Re: About the position of footnotes and page numbers

[Marcelo Acuña]

 I'm writing and designing a text. The
 style is *Book Koma-script*
 
 First question: the text have a lot of footnotes, and I
 want it to appear on
 the side of the body of the text, as same as the margin
 notes. Is it
 possible?
 
 Second question: Is possible to change the position of the
 page numbers?
 How? My text is 20 cm. high x 30 cm. width, horizontal
 format. The margins
 are 3 cm. inside an 7 cm. outside. Is possible to make that
 the footnotes
 and the page numbers appears out of this margins? (with a
 margin of 3 cm.
 outside for both of them).

 Footnotes at the side of text with margin notes.
 Page numbers out of this margin with titlesec package.
 Marcelo


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Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Manveru]

2009/8/16 Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, 15 Aug 2009,
 =?UTF-8?B?RnJlZGVyaWNrIE5vcm9uaGEgW+ClnuCksOClh+CkpuCksOCkv+CklSDgpKjgpYvgpLDgpYs=?=
 ] wrote:

 Any good source from which to download Lyx tip sheets? Many thanks, FN

 What do you mean by a 'tip sheet'?

I think he means a small sheet with keyboard shortcuts we remember
from ancient DOS times for WordPerfect or QuattroPro. I remember even
such mountable on keyboard which surround function keys on top and
offers couple small sheets. It allowed to select page depending of the
mode of application.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

Re: Lyx Xetex and otf

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jommelli Niccolò wrote:
 I have been trying to use XeTex with an otf font but  I cannot get
 Lyx/xetex to use it. I installed the otf in the open type font directory of
 MikTex, but nothing. Even if I declare the font family at the beginning of
 the document, Lyx/xetex cannot find it and I get the blank pdf.
 How do I get Lyx to use XeTex with otf and ttf fonts properly?

Could you post the LaTeX log file?

Jürgen

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Manveru]

2009/8/15 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com:
 On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:

 Joe wrote:


 In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
 Any advice is appreciated.

 I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png




 I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png

 It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.



 This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then the
 add or modify button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the From
 format to DVI and To format to LaTeX (plain), then the Add button
 will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI--LaTeX converter (??).
 Alternatively, if you click on DVI -- Postscript and then add something
 in the Extra flag box, then the Modify button will be enabled.

 As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a better
 system.

If I may suggest something, that could be done in more intuitive ways:

1. More Eclipse approach: Create edit button and do additional dialog
for editing.

2. Keep fields for typing converter parameters disabled. Then when
clicked New - create new row with name 'New Converter', select it,
enable all fields to type and commit button. When clicked edit just
enable the fields to edit and the commit button. Display an question
dialog box when someone clicked on the list of converters above or the
menu of options about abandoning changes. That would be more intuitive
in my opinion.


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Re: Question about command sequences

[Pavel Sanda]

Venable wrote:
 Hi Pavel,
 
 Thanks for the tip. I looked at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxFunctions
 but there was not much in the way of direction there. Could you
 possibly give me a bit more insight?

if you have lyx 1.6, then look into help-lyx functions menu.
pavel

Re: problem with default margin

[Guenter Milde]

On 2009-08-16, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

  I have a work in custom page size and custom margin. I have to try
  with Us letter and A4 page size and when I selected default margin I
  have 1,5 o 2 inchs margin. If I give a look to the source I cannot see
  \usepackage{geometry} with margin set in the preamble. 

If you select [x] default for the margins, 'geometry' is not used.

The margin is determinded by the document class based on page size and
eventually type size (10, 11, or 12 points) and global options.

  These enormous margins are an error or is the awaited thing?

With some document classes, wide margins are the default. This is
because lines with more than 80 characters reduce the readability of
your document.

How do you select the *margin* in the preamble?

Günter

Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[John Kane]

Also sometimes known as a cheat sheet.  Here is an example from R

http://cran.r-project.org/doc/contrib/refcard.pdf

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Manveru manv...@manveru.pl wrote:

 From: Manveru manv...@manveru.pl
 Subject: Re: Lyx tip-sheets
 To: Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 4:15 AM
 2009/8/16 Christian Ridderström
 christian.ridderst...@gmail.com:
  On Sat, 15 Aug 2009,
 
 =?UTF-8?B?RnJlZGVyaWNrIE5vcm9uaGEgW+ClnuCksOClh+CkpuCksOCkv+CklSDgpKjgpYvgpLDgpYs=?=
  ] wrote:
 
  Any good source from which to download Lyx tip
 sheets? Many thanks, FN
 
  What do you mean by a 'tip sheet'?
 
 I think he means a small sheet with keyboard shortcuts we
 remember
 from ancient DOS times for WordPerfect or QuattroPro. I
 remember even
 such mountable on keyboard which surround function keys on
 top and
 offers couple small sheets. It allowed to select page
 depending of the
 mode of application.
 
 -- 
 Manveru
 jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
      gg: 1624001
    http://www.manveru.pl
 


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Re: Where is the export directory

[rgheck]

On 08/17/2009 12:15 AM, Stephen Winters wrote:

rgheck wrote:

On 08/16/2009 11:11 AM, Stephen Winters wrote:

Hi,
I'm Using Lyx 1.6.3 on Windows Vista Home edition. I have enable the 
Open Document export function. However, whenever I export a document 
(FileExportOpenDocument) Lyx appears to export the document 
(mouse pointer turns into an hourglass), but I haven't been able to 
locate where the document gets located to. Can you help me find the 
export folder?


You're probably running into one of a variety of well-known bugs that 
afflict ODT export on Windows. This is not a LyX issue so much as it 
is a tex4ht issue. That said, you might look in your temporary 
directory and see if LyX for some reason left the ODT there.


rh



Hi RH,
 Thanks for your response, and thank you telling me about the bugs. 
However, could you or someone else tell me where the STANDARD Export 
Folder for ANY type of export?



It should go to the document directory.

By the way, I looked in the User NameAppDataLocalTemp  directory 
and could not find any exports, including the ODT file.



Is that the temporary directory LyX uses? I'm not on Windows so don't know.

You may also be hitting a different bug with tex4ht, which seems just 
not to work on Windows for some people. LyX uses a program called 
htlatex (part of the tex4ht package) to do the conversion to ODT, and 
there are lots of reports of problems with it. As a workaround, you 
might try export to RTF instead.


rh

Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

  Someone local has developed his own solution for preparing and displaying
slides during presentations. He uses a browser for the display and type size
of 60pt-120pt. I mentioned that I use the Beamer class with whatever the
default type size is and the results are readable in all room sizes in which
I've been.

  But, he asked if LaTeX (or TeX itself) can scale type to 60-120pt and have
it look as smooth as smaller sizes. I've never done this, nor am I sure just
how to go about testing whether it can be done, so I'm asking here. I have a
vague recollection of reading about using LaTeX to prepare posters or
banners, but that was a while ago and I may well be mistaken.

  Could such large type sizes be cleaning rendered by TeX?

Rich

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Re: Lyx and Japanese (no matter how hard I try there are always some problems)

[Yokota K.]

Most popular way to do is to install pTeX if you are thinking of
writing Japanese as a main task. pTeX also includes normal TeX, so in
most of cases it suffices to do. What kind of errors did you get when
you tried it?

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Les Denham]

On Monday 17 August 2009, Rich Shepard wrote:
  But, he asked if LaTeX (or TeX itself) can scale type to 60-120pt and have
 it look as smooth as smaller sizes. I've never done this, nor am I sure
 just how to go about testing whether it can be done, so I'm asking here. I
 have a vague recollection of reading about using LaTeX to prepare posters
 or banners, but that was a while ago and I may well be mistaken.

    Could such large type sizes be cleaning rendered by TeX?

The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF 
generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.

Looks clean to me.

I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a small 
font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very successfully by 
creating them page size, then plotting with a scale factor.

-- 
Les

~~
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See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
attachment: LargeFont.png

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Les Denham wrote:


The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF
generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.

Looks clean to me.

I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a small
font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very successfully by
creating them page size, then plotting with a scale factor.


  Thank you, Les. I've forwarded your message to the fellow who asked the
question. It seems to me that a PostScript font can be scaled to any desired
size since it's an outline rather than bit-mapped.

Much appreciated,

Rich

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Re: Maximum Font Size

[Stefano Franchi]

On Monday 17 August 2009 10:38:36 am Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Les Denham wrote:
  The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF
  generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.
 
  Looks clean to me.
 
  I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a
  small font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very
  successfully by creating them page size, then plotting with a scale
  factor.


All typographers and font designers routinely complain that bigger font   
scaled up font (and viceversa), because the typeface features must be manually 
adjusted to convey the same look in different sizes. However, I doubt that 
considerations of typographic beauty play a a large role when making a poster.

S.

Thank you, Les. I've forwarded your message to the fellow who asked the
 question. It seems to me that a PostScript font can be scaled to any
 desired size since it's an outline rather than bit-mapped.

 Much appreciated,

 Rich

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Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Paul A. Rubin]

One problem with this is that so much of the interface is configurable, 
so a cheat-sheet of key combinations will be incorrect fairly 
frequently.  Some enterprising soul might be able to write a script that 
scanned the ui and bind files in use and created one on the fly, I suppose.


/Paul

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Stefano Franchi wrote:


All typographers and font designers routinely complain that bigger font
 scaled up font (and viceversa), because the typeface features must be
manually adjusted to convey the same look in different sizes. However, I
doubt that considerations of typographic beauty play a a large role when
making a poster.


Stefano,

  What started this is the use of a Web browser for display of presentation
visuals by one of the local computer professionals. He apparently likes to
have only a few words (6, apparently) per slide and in a very large size.
He cannot write the text using OO.o and have the resulting huge text look
smooth at those sizes. I suggested he consider using the beamer class in
LyX/LaTeX, but he is interested only in generating anti-aliased huge
characters for his browser-based presentation. I think that as long at the
edges look smooth he'll be happy.

Thanks,

Rich

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Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Pavel Sanda]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 One problem with this is that so much of the interface is configurable, so 
 a cheat-sheet of key combinations will be incorrect fairly frequently.  
 Some enterprising soul might be able to write a script that scanned the ui 
 and bind files in use and created one on the fly, I suppose.

we have inset-info for this purpose.
i think some kind of such a sheet is in Help-Shortcuts, probably
not with the newwest features and their shortcuts - but of course
we are open to get updated list from the users :)

pavel

rename - list of algorithms

[Ricardo Perrone]

Hi,

I need to rename the list of algorithms to a more convenient name. For example: 
List of Algorithms --- Lista de Códigos (in Portuguese/Brazil language), but 
default Lyx behaviour changes it to 'Lista de Algoritmos' when i set default 
language to Portuguese (Brazil). I have tried to use ERT command 
\listof{algorithm}{Lista de Códigos}, but it was necessary to take out  
\usepackage{hyperref} to avoid some problems and the final result was not so 
good, because the algorithm's counter was reset to the begining. Anybody knows 
how can i solve this?

Thanks a lot
Ricardo

Res: toc - page numbering

[Marcelo Boss]

Try this:
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\thispagestyle{empty}}

(Not it the preamble)

Regards
Marcelo





De: rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com
Para: Ricardo Perrone perr...@rocketmail.com
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 17 de Agosto de 2009 0:58:28
Assunto: Re: toc - page numbering

On 08/16/2009 11:19 PM, Ricardo Perrone wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I want to set the page counter to start from 12th page (Here, the first page 
 relative to the first chapter). From 1st to 10th I removed the page numbering 
 with \pagestyle{empty} at the document begining, but when i include 
 \tableofcontents at 11th page, the page numbering appears at the end of page. 
 How can i remove this numbering on TOC page and force the page numbering 
 appears only from 12th page? I tried ERT command (\pagestyle and 
 \thispagestyle) but didn't work. For this document I'm using book.cls template
 

The \tableofcontents command in book.cls is defined like this:
\newcommand\tableofcontents{%
\...@twocolumn
\...@restonecoltrue\onecolumn
\else
\...@restonecolfalse
\fi
\chapter*{\contentsname
\...@mkboth{%
\MakeUppercase\contentsname}{\MakeUppercase\contentsname}}%
\...@starttoc{toc}%
\...@restonecol\twocolumn\fi
}
The important part is that it formats the heading, Table of Contents, using 
\chapter*. So if we look at that:
\newcommand\chapter{...@openright\cleardoublepage\else\clearpage\fi
\thispagestyle{plain}%
\glob...@topnum\z@
\...@afterindentfalse
\secd...@chapter\@schapter}
This gets called both for \chapter and for \chapter*. Note how it sets the page 
style.

Getting around this will probably involve both (i) redefining the 
\tableofcontents macro so that it does not call \chapter* but instead, say, a 
new command, \tochapter and (ii) defining that new command. You might try 
something like this:
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
\...@twocolumn
\...@restonecoltrue\onecolumn
\else
\...@restonecolfalse
\fi
\tochapter{\contentsname
\...@mkboth{%
\MakeUppercase\contentsname}{\MakeUppercase\contentsname}}%
\...@starttoc{toc}%
\...@restonecol\twocolumn\fi
}
\newcommand\tochapter{...@openright\cleardoublepage\else\clearpage\fi
\thispagestyle{empty}%
\glob...@topnum\z@
\...@afterindentfalse
\...@schapter}
I've basically just copied everything over and changed a few bits here and 
there.

Are you sure you don't just want to use \frontmatter and \mainmatter, though?

rh


  

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Re: problem with default margin

[Marcelo Acuña]

  I have a work in custom
page size and custom
  margin. I have to try
  with Us letter and A4 page size and when I
  selected default margin I
  have 1,5 o 2 inchs margin. If I give a look to
  the source I cannot see
  \usepackage{geometry} with margin set in the
 preamble. 
  
 If you select [x] default for the margins, 'geometry'
 is not used.
 The margin is determinded by the document class based
 on page size and
 eventually type size (10, 11, or 12 points) and
 global options.
  
  These enormous margins are an error or is the
  awaited thing?
  
 With some document classes, wide margins are the
 default. This is
 because lines with more than 80 characters reduce the
 readability of your document.
 
I selected two columns, thus are no readability problems.
  
 How do you select the *margin* in the preamble?
 Günter

 I watched the source in the part of the preamble and saw
 the appropriate command.
 
 Marcelo



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Re: About the position of footnotes and page numbers

[Marcelo Acuña]

 I'm writing and designing a text. The
 style is *Book Koma-script*
 
 First question: the text have a lot of footnotes, and I
 want it to appear on
 the side of the body of the text, as same as the margin
 notes. Is it
 possible?
 
 Second question: Is possible to change the position of the
 page numbers?
 How? My text is 20 cm. high x 30 cm. width, horizontal
 format. The margins
 are 3 cm. inside an 7 cm. outside. Is possible to make that
 the footnotes
 and the page numbers appears out of this margins? (with a
 margin of 3 cm.
 outside for both of them).

 Footnotes at the side of text with margin notes.
 Page numbers out of this margin with titlesec package.
 Marcelo


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Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Manveru]

2009/8/16 Christian Ridderström :
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2009,
> =?UTF-8?B?RnJlZGVyaWNrIE5vcm9uaGEgW+ClnuCksOClh+CkpuCksOCkv+CklSDgpKjgpYvgpLDgpYs=?=
> ] wrote:
>
>> Any good source from which to download Lyx tip sheets? Many thanks, FN
>
> What do you mean by a 'tip sheet'?

I think he means a small sheet with keyboard shortcuts we remember
from ancient DOS times for WordPerfect or QuattroPro. I remember even
such mountable on keyboard which surround function keys on top and
offers couple small sheets. It allowed to select page depending of the
mode of application.

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Re: Lyx Xetex and otf

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jommelli Niccolò wrote:
> I have been trying to use XeTex with an otf font but  I cannot get
> Lyx/xetex to use it. I installed the otf in the open type font directory of
> MikTex, but nothing. Even if I declare the font family at the beginning of
> the document, Lyx/xetex cannot find it and I get the blank pdf.
> How do I get Lyx to use XeTex with otf and ttf fonts properly?

Could you post the LaTeX log file?

Jürgen

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Manveru]

2009/8/15 rgheck :
> On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:
>>
>> Joe wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
>>> Any advice is appreciated.
>>>
>>> I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4
>>>
>>>  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
>>> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
>> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png
>>
>> It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.
>>
>>
>
> This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then the
> "add" or "modify" button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the "From
> format" to "DVI" and "To format" to "LaTeX (plain)", then the Add button
> will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI-->LaTeX converter (??).
> Alternatively, if you click on "DVI --> Postscript" and then add something
> in the "Extra flag" box, then the Modify button will be enabled.
>
> As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a better
> system.

If I may suggest something, that could be done in more intuitive ways:

1. More Eclipse approach: Create edit button and do additional dialog
for editing.

2. Keep fields for typing converter parameters disabled. Then when
clicked New - create new row with name 'New Converter', select it,
enable all fields to type and commit button. When clicked edit just
enable the fields to edit and the commit button. Display an question
dialog box when someone clicked on the list of converters above or the
menu of options about abandoning changes. That would be more intuitive
in my opinion.


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Re: Question about command sequences

[Pavel Sanda]

Venable wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
> 
> Thanks for the tip. I looked at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxFunctions
> but there was not much in the way of direction there. Could you
> possibly give me a bit more insight?

if you have lyx 1.6, then look into help->lyx functions menu.
pavel

Re: problem with default margin

[Guenter Milde]

On 2009-08-16, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

>  I have a work in custom page size and custom margin. I have to try
>  with Us letter and A4 page size and when I selected default margin I
>  have 1,5 o 2 inchs margin. If I give a look to the source I cannot see
>  \usepackage{geometry} with margin set in the preamble. 

If you select [x] default for the margins, 'geometry' is not used.

The margin is determinded by the document class based on page size and
eventually type size (10, 11, or 12 points) and global options.

>  These enormous margins are an error or is the awaited thing?

With some document classes, wide margins are the default. This is
because lines with more than 80 characters reduce the readability of
your document.

How do you select the *margin* in the preamble?

Günter

Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[John Kane]

Also sometimes known as a cheat sheet.  Here is an example from R

http://cran.r-project.org/doc/contrib/refcard.pdf

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Manveru  wrote:

> From: Manveru 
> Subject: Re: Lyx tip-sheets
> To: "Christian Ridderström" 
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 4:15 AM
> 2009/8/16 Christian Ridderström
> :
> > On Sat, 15 Aug 2009,
> >
> =?UTF-8?B?RnJlZGVyaWNrIE5vcm9uaGEgW+ClnuCksOClh+CkpuCksOCkv+CklSDgpKjgpYvgpLDgpYs=?=
> > ] wrote:
> >
> >> Any good source from which to download Lyx tip
> sheets? Many thanks, FN
> >
> > What do you mean by a 'tip sheet'?
> 
> I think he means a small sheet with keyboard shortcuts we
> remember
> from ancient DOS times for WordPerfect or QuattroPro. I
> remember even
> such mountable on keyboard which surround function keys on
> top and
> offers couple small sheets. It allowed to select page
> depending of the
> mode of application.
> 
> -- 
> Manveru
> jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
>      gg: 1624001
>    http://www.manveru.pl
> 


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Re: Where is the export directory

[rgheck]

On 08/17/2009 12:15 AM, Stephen Winters wrote:

rgheck wrote:

On 08/16/2009 11:11 AM, Stephen Winters wrote:

Hi,
I'm Using Lyx 1.6.3 on Windows Vista Home edition. I have enable the 
Open Document export function. However, whenever I export a document 
("File>Export>OpenDocument") Lyx appears to export the document 
(mouse pointer turns into an hourglass), but I haven't been able to 
locate where the document gets located to. Can you help me find the 
export folder?


You're probably running into one of a variety of well-known bugs that 
afflict ODT export on Windows. This is not a LyX issue so much as it 
is a tex4ht issue. That said, you might look in your temporary 
directory and see if LyX for some reason left the ODT there.


rh



Hi RH,
 Thanks for your response, and thank you telling me about the bugs. 
However, could you or someone else tell me where the STANDARD Export 
Folder for ANY type of export?



It should go to the document directory.

By the way, I looked in the "User Name>AppData>Local>Temp"  directory 
and could not find any exports, including the ODT file.



Is that the temporary directory LyX uses? I'm not on Windows so don't know.

You may also be hitting a different bug with tex4ht, which seems just 
not to work on Windows for some people. LyX uses a program called 
htlatex (part of the tex4ht package) to do the conversion to ODT, and 
there are lots of reports of problems with it. As a workaround, you 
might try export to RTF instead.


rh

Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

  Someone local has developed his own solution for preparing and displaying
slides during presentations. He uses a browser for the display and type size
of 60pt-120pt. I mentioned that I use the Beamer class with whatever the
default type size is and the results are readable in all room sizes in which
I've been.

  But, he asked if LaTeX (or TeX itself) can scale type to 60-120pt and have
it look as smooth as smaller sizes. I've never done this, nor am I sure just
how to go about testing whether it can be done, so I'm asking here. I have a
vague recollection of reading about using LaTeX to prepare posters or
banners, but that was a while ago and I may well be mistaken.

  Could such large type sizes be cleaning rendered by TeX?

Rich

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Re: Lyx and Japanese (no matter how hard I try there are always some problems)

[Yokota K.]

Most popular way to do is to install pTeX if you are thinking of
writing Japanese as a main task. pTeX also includes normal TeX, so in
most of cases it suffices to do. What kind of errors did you get when
you tried it?

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Les Denham]

On Monday 17 August 2009, Rich Shepard wrote:
>  But, he asked if LaTeX (or TeX itself) can scale type to 60-120pt and have
> it look as smooth as smaller sizes. I've never done this, nor am I sure
> just how to go about testing whether it can be done, so I'm asking here. I
> have a vague recollection of reading about using LaTeX to prepare posters
> or banners, but that was a while ago and I may well be mistaken.
>
>    Could such large type sizes be cleaning rendered by TeX?

The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF 
generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.

Looks clean to me.

I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a small 
font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very successfully by 
creating them page size, then plotting with a scale factor.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
<>

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Les Denham wrote:


The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF
generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.

Looks clean to me.

I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a small
font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very successfully by
creating them page size, then plotting with a scale factor.


  Thank you, Les. I've forwarded your message to the fellow who asked the
question. It seems to me that a PostScript font can be scaled to any desired
size since it's an outline rather than bit-mapped.

Much appreciated,

Rich

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Re: Maximum Font Size

[Stefano Franchi]

On Monday 17 August 2009 10:38:36 am Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Les Denham wrote:
> > The attached is not a large font size, but it is a randomly chosen PDF
> > generated from LyX, enlarged in Acrobat Reader to 2400%.
> >
> > Looks clean to me.
> >
> > I don't see any essential difference between an enlarge version of a
> > small font, and a large font.  In fact, I've generated posters very
> > successfully by creating them page size, then plotting with a scale
> > factor.
>

All typographers and font designers routinely complain that "bigger font" <>  
scaled up font (and viceversa), because the typeface features must be manually 
adjusted to convey the same look in different sizes. However, I doubt that 
considerations of typographic beauty play a a large role when making a poster.

S.

>Thank you, Les. I've forwarded your message to the fellow who asked the
> question. It seems to me that a PostScript font can be scaled to any
> desired size since it's an outline rather than bit-mapped.
>
> Much appreciated,
>
> Rich

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305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Paul A. Rubin]

One problem with this is that so much of the interface is configurable, 
so a cheat-sheet of key combinations will be incorrect fairly 
frequently.  Some enterprising soul might be able to write a script that 
scanned the ui and bind files in use and created one on the fly, I suppose.


/Paul

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Stefano Franchi wrote:


All typographers and font designers routinely complain that "bigger font"
<> scaled up font (and viceversa), because the typeface features must be
manually adjusted to convey the same look in different sizes. However, I
doubt that considerations of typographic beauty play a a large role when
making a poster.


Stefano,

  What started this is the use of a Web browser for display of presentation
visuals by one of the local computer professionals. He apparently likes to
have only a few words (<6, apparently) per slide and in a very large size.
He cannot write the text using OO.o and have the resulting huge text look
smooth at those sizes. I suggested he consider using the beamer class in
LyX/LaTeX, but he is interested only in generating anti-aliased huge
characters for his browser-based presentation. I think that as long at the
edges look smooth he'll be happy.

Thanks,

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Lyx tip-sheets

[Pavel Sanda]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> One problem with this is that so much of the interface is configurable, so 
> a cheat-sheet of key combinations will be incorrect fairly frequently.  
> Some enterprising soul might be able to write a script that scanned the ui 
> and bind files in use and created one on the fly, I suppose.

we have inset-info for this purpose.
i think some kind of such a sheet is in Help->Shortcuts, probably
not with the newwest features and their shortcuts - but of course
we are open to get updated list from the users :)

pavel

rename - list of algorithms

[Ricardo Perrone]

Hi,

I need to rename the list of algorithms to a more convenient name. For example: 
List of Algorithms ---> Lista de Códigos (in Portuguese/Brazil language), but 
default Lyx behaviour changes it to 'Lista de Algoritmos' when i set default 
language to Portuguese (Brazil). I have tried to use ERT command 
\listof{algorithm}{Lista de Códigos}, but it was necessary to take out  
\usepackage{hyperref} to avoid some problems and the final result was not so 
good, because the algorithm's counter was reset to the begining. Anybody knows 
how can i solve this?

Thanks a lot
Ricardo

Res: toc - page numbering

[Marcelo Boss]

Try this:
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\thispagestyle{empty}}

(Not it the preamble)

Regards
Marcelo





De: rgheck 
Para: Ricardo Perrone 
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 17 de Agosto de 2009 0:58:28
Assunto: Re: toc - page numbering

On 08/16/2009 11:19 PM, Ricardo Perrone wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I want to set the page counter to start from 12th page (Here, the first page 
> relative to the first chapter). From 1st to 10th I removed the page numbering 
> with \pagestyle{empty} at the document begining, but when i include 
> \tableofcontents at 11th page, the page numbering appears at the end of page. 
> How can i remove this numbering on TOC page and force the page numbering 
> appears only from 12th page? I tried ERT command (\pagestyle and 
> \thispagestyle) but didn't work. For this document I'm using book.cls template
> 
>
The \tableofcontents command in book.cls is defined like this:
\newcommand\tableofcontents{%
\...@twocolumn
\...@restonecoltrue\onecolumn
\else
\...@restonecolfalse
\fi
\chapter*{\contentsname
\...@mkboth{%
\MakeUppercase\contentsname}{\MakeUppercase\contentsname}}%
\...@starttoc{toc}%
\...@restonecol\twocolumn\fi
}
The important part is that it formats the heading, "Table of Contents", using 
\chapter*. So if we look at that:
\newcommand\chapter{...@openright\cleardoublepage\else\clearpage\fi
\thispagestyle{plain}%
\glob...@topnum\z@
\...@afterindentfalse
\secd...@chapter\@schapter}
This gets called both for \chapter and for \chapter*. Note how it sets the page 
style.

Getting around this will probably involve both (i) redefining the 
\tableofcontents macro so that it does not call \chapter* but instead, say, a 
new command, \tochapter and (ii) defining that new command. You might try 
something like this:
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
\...@twocolumn
\...@restonecoltrue\onecolumn
\else
\...@restonecolfalse
\fi
\tochapter{\contentsname
\...@mkboth{%
\MakeUppercase\contentsname}{\MakeUppercase\contentsname}}%
\...@starttoc{toc}%
\...@restonecol\twocolumn\fi
}
\newcommand\tochapter{...@openright\cleardoublepage\else\clearpage\fi
\thispagestyle{empty}%
\glob...@topnum\z@
\...@afterindentfalse
\...@schapter}
I've basically just copied everything over and changed a few bits here and 
there.

Are you sure you don't just want to use \frontmatter and \mainmatter, though?

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Re: problem with default margin

[Marcelo Acuña]

>>  I have a work in custom
page size and custom
>>  margin. I have to try
>>  with Us letter and A4 page size and when I
>>  selected default margin I
>>  have 1,5 o 2 inchs margin. If I give a look to
>>  the source I cannot see
>>  \usepackage{geometry} with margin set in the
>> preamble. 
  
> If you select [x] default for the margins, 'geometry'
> is not used.
> The margin is determinded by the document class based
> on page size and
> eventually type size (10, 11, or 12 points) and
> global options.
  
>>  These enormous margins are an error or is the
>>  awaited thing?
  
> With some document classes, wide margins are the
> default. This is
> because lines with more than 80 characters reduce the
> readability of your document.
 
I selected two columns, thus are no readability problems.
  
> How do you select the *margin* in the preamble?
> Günter

 I watched the source in the part of the preamble and saw
 the appropriate command.
 
 Marcelo



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Re: About the position of footnotes and page numbers

[Marcelo Acuña]

> I'm writing and designing a text. The
> style is *Book Koma-script*
> 
> First question: the text have a lot of footnotes, and I
> want it to appear on
> the side of the body of the text, as same as the margin
> notes. Is it
> possible?
> 
> Second question: Is possible to change the position of the
> page numbers?
> How? My text is 20 cm. high x 30 cm. width, horizontal
> format. The margins
> are 3 cm. inside an 7 cm. outside. Is possible to make that
> the footnotes
> and the page numbers appears out of this margins? (with a
> margin of 3 cm.
> outside for both of them).

 Footnotes at the side of text with margin notes.
 Page numbers out of this margin with titlesec package.
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