Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Tomasz Łuczak]

Alex wrote:


One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.

I run (I tried it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] without success) LyX on slow
computer, but it was hard to get use it (1.3.3 with linux).

As far, I can remember LyX can run where an X server and KDE can run.
Is the Ok?
Is that means that a 200-300MHz P1 or P2 with 16-32MB ram will be enough
to run LyX?
On this machine the LaTeX will also run I am sure.

Can some of them confirm it?
LyX with XForms with Fluxbox/Windowmaker instead KDE should run on P1/P2 
with 32MB RAM.


regards
Tomasz
--
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 TECHNODAT Sp. z o.o.tel +48 32 2382337
 ul. Kościuszki 1c   tel +48 32 3314484
 44-100 Gliwice, PL  mob +48 602 524713
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Re: Two indexes

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

From: Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Two indexes
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:28:05 -0400

On Tuesday 04 July 2006 04:33 pm, Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
 I would need two indexes for my PhD thesis: one for persons' names, one for
 themes/concepts.

 Is it possible to have two separate indexes in LyX? If so, how should I go
 about setting up the second one?

 Also, any tips for shortcuts would be welcome. I am currently planning to
 do a manual search for the words to index, and then paste the relevant
 index mark after each of them. Very lengthy over 500+ pages.

 Thanks very much for any help you can give me over the last weeks of thesis
 work,
 Catherine Heyrendt

Similar question -- How do you do 2 tables of contents. If you look at most 
technical books, they have two tables of contents -- one either to the 
chapter or maybe section level, and one going down to subsection or 
subsubsection. I've tried to do that in the past and failed. Anyone have any 
ideas?

From the TeX UK FAQ, 
 - multiple indexes:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multind
 multiple tocs:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minitoc

HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:34:18 +0200
Tomasz Łuczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alex wrote:
  
  One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
  processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.
  
  I run (I tried it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] without success) LyX on slow
  computer, but it was hard to get use it (1.3.3 with linux).
  
  As far, I can remember LyX can run where an X server and KDE can run.
  Is the Ok?
  Is that means that a 200-300MHz P1 or P2 with 16-32MB ram will be enough
  to run LyX?
  On this machine the LaTeX will also run I am sure.
  
  Can some of them confirm it?
 LyX with XForms with Fluxbox/Windowmaker instead KDE should run on P1/P2 
 with 32MB RAM.
 

It's been quite a few years since I tried it and lyx, X and linux have grown in
abilities and size since then but I used to run everything on a 486.

You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of modules and
run a light window manager (like mentioned, fluxbox/windowmaker will work,
probably fvwm also, for the extremist there is also ratpoison and  a few
others). A pentium should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II laptop
that could hardly support win98.

KDE and Gnome are a big bloatware (in terms of both memory and cpu
requirements) that you don't want to run on a machine with less requirements
then needed for win XP.

You would probably also want lyx compiled with xforms and not qt.

On my machine, lyx-qt + X + fvwm takes together about 45MB although cutting
down is probably possible.

 regards
 Tomasz

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Steve Litt]

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 03:15 am, Micha Feigin wrote:

 You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of modules
 and run a light window manager (like mentioned, fluxbox/windowmaker will
 work, probably fvwm also, for the extremist there is also ratpoison and  a
 few others). A pentium should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II
 laptop that could hardly support win98.

Don't forget IceWM. It's not only light, but it's good. I use it on my Athlon 
2600XP with 1.5GB Ram, even though I could run the bloatiest KDE on it.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

RE: aspell on XP

[GATZKE, EDWARD P]

Thanks!  I could not get my old 1.4 install to spellcheck, but uninstalling and 
installing the latest and greatest versions worked.

The new PC installer is a godsend.  Thank you so very much anyone that worked 
on that project!


I still have issues that I can't get LyX to quit on Alt-F4 like almost all 
other windows applications.  I have messed around with my cua.bind, but nothing 
works.  I can bind Alt-4 and Ctrl-F4 to close LyX, but Alt-F4 still won't do 
anything.  This seems a small issue, but it for me is a big inconsistency in 
the way lyx works that limits usability in some cases when I try to do most 
everything without a mouse (Alt-Tab task switching, 

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Thanks again Uwe.

Ed Gatzke


-Original Message-
From:   Uwe Stöhr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Mon 7/3/2006 5:03 PM
To: Ed Gatzke
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:Re: aspell on XP

Ed Gatzke wrote:

 I have not been able to get spell checking to work on the 1.4.1 LyX build on
 Windows XP.
 
 I have installed Aspell-0-50-3-3-Setup.exe and told it to install in C:\Aspell

LyX 1.4.1 needs aspell version 0.60.x.

 I have installed aspell6-en-6.0-0.exe in a variety of places, including
 C:\Aspell  C:\Aspell\Dictionaries and C:\Aspell\lib

Don't install it several times.
You can use this LyX installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

that automatically installs and configures aspell to work together with 
LyX. All you need to do is to install some dictionaries - the installer 
asks you for this and points you to a download repository.

 I have reconfigured LyX, and spellcheck is not grayed out.

You can ignore this as this setting is by default disabled in LyX for 
wondows.

regards Uwe

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Steve Litt]

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 01:43 am, Alex wrote:
 Dear all,

 One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
 processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.

Hi Alex,

I think her initial question is unfair. Equally unfair would be Comparing MS 
Word to other book rendering programs. MS Word isn't a book rendering 
program, and LyX isn't a word processor.

In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use LyX 
for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to change 
one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole task in MS 
Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.

On the other hand, writing a book in a word processor is problematic. Yes, 
I've done it, and still sell one written in WordPerfect 5 and one written in 
MS Word, but the typography isn't nearly as professional, getting chapter 
title pages to show up on odd pages is difficult and sometimes requires fine 
tuning, hyphenation is an aboration, and table of contents and indexing is 
neither easy nor good looking nor reliable. On my WP 5 book, any change in 
pagination requires a manual reworking of the table of contents.

In LyX, once you have all your styles created (and that's a big once), it's 
absolutely trivial to produce a professional book, with the possible 
exception that you need to tag all the index words and phrases.

By the way, what I did for indexing on Troubleshooting Techniques of the 
Successful Technologist was to run the LyX file through a shellscript that 
split it into individual words and performed a unique sort. I came up with 
less than 1000 words. I then looked at every word, decided whether it, or a 
phrase including it, deserved a place in the index, weeding out all the 
extraneous words. Now armed with a list of words, within LyX I searched for 
all occurrences of each word and tagged them. If memory serves me, it took 
about 2 days to index this book of over 100,000 words, and the resulting 
index was complete and easy to use.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:10:59AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 July 2006 01:43 am, Alex wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
  processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 I think her initial question is unfair. Equally unfair would be Comparing MS 
 Word to other book rendering programs. MS Word isn't a book rendering 
 program, and LyX isn't a word processor.
 
 In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use LyX 
 for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to change 
 one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole task in MS 
 Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.
...


Oh, boo ...   ;-)

I write nearly everything in LyX, from letters to the 12 or 15 page
exams I give every 6 weeks or so.  I wouldn't dream of using Word or
the equivalent for these, and my trust in LyX/LaTeX/TeX has
consistently been rewarded.

The times it doesn't work for me and others in my family are 1) when
I'm trying to quickly figure out how to print names of players on an
AYSO game card (O.O., the Word equivalent), 2) I'm creating a handout
requiring page layout work (Scribus), or 3) my kids' work requires some
screwed up formatting a reference page, and I don't know ERT.  I do not
come from a computer/TeX background, so this is hard to do without the
excellent help found on this list.  

Cheers,


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Steve Litt wrote:


In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use
LyX for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to
change one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole
task in MS Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.


  Perhaps your opinion is based on your practice of self-publishing books.
Take a look at my web site (follow either the What's New or Publication
links) and you'll see a bunch of 5-10 page articles written in LyX.

  Not only was it quicker and easier to write them with LyX, but the pdf
output cannot be matched by OpenOffice.org's writer, AbiWord, or any other
word processor.

  So, whiile I might have rocks accompanying the extra holes in my head, my
use of the application is obviously vastly different from yours, so our
opinions of the type of writing for which LyX is best suited also greatly
differ.

  Other than the occasional, odd-ball need, I use the standard environments
just as the LyX/LaTeX authors designed them. I suspect from your posts that
what you really need is a personalized TeX macro system (neither LaTeX nor
ConTeX) and your own GUI interface to it.

  Given the apparent original post (which I did not read), I run LyX on my
7-year-old Toshiba Portege 3025-CT. It has a 300MHz Pentium-MMX processor,
96M RAM (the maximum allowed), and a 6G hard drive. So, LyX would be ideal
for someone writing a thesis. However, you are correct when you note that
comparing LyX/LaTeX to Microsoft's Word is an invalid comparison. They're two
completely different applications.

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)|Accelerator
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Index more small

[icebna]

Hi all :
I'm sorry. I lost how make that the superscript number are more small. 
Is very big to my work.

Thanks advanced
Miguel

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Ingo Klöcker]

Am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2006 15:56 schrieb Steve Litt:
 On Wednesday 05 July 2006 03:15 am, Micha Feigin wrote:
  You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of
  modules and run a light window manager (like mentioned,
  fluxbox/windowmaker will work, probably fvwm also, for the
  extremist there is also ratpoison and  a few others). A pentium
  should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II laptop that
  could hardly support win98.

 Don't forget IceWM. It's not only light, but it's good. I use it on
 my Athlon 2600XP with 1.5GB Ram, even though I could run the
 bloatiest KDE on it.

Luckily, KDE is anything but bloat. KDE provides a lot of functionality 
and that's why a lot of services are started when you run KDE. But none 
of those services is a memory hog nor do they use a lot of CPU power. 
It is not in the least surprising that a window manager is way more 
lean than KDE because KDE is not a window manager but a full-blown 
desktop which includes a window manager as one of many components.

Now for something on topic: I wrote my diploma thesis in 1998 with LyX 
0.10 or 0.12 on a Pentium 90 with 48 MB (IIRC). I'm not sure how 
relevant this information is because we are now at LyX 1.4.

Regards,
Ingo


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Re: Index more small

[Paul A. Rubin]

icebna wrote:

Hi all :
I'm sorry. I lost how make that the superscript number are more small. 
Is very big to my work.

Thanks advanced
Miguel



Is this what you need?

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/30672

Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an \appendixmore 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are named 
Appendix A, Appendix B, and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
Figure C, though the figure label itself is OK as Figure C.2 (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!

RE: Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

From: Curtis Osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:51:15 +


Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an \appendixmore 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are named 
Appendix A, Appendix B, and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
Figure C, though the figure label itself is OK as Figure C.2 (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!




  OK, so I'm going to at least partially respond to my own question.
  At least part of my problem has to do with the fact that most of my 
figures use the \caption[short caption]{ A possibly much longer caption 
here} format. The ones which do this have the (unwanted) cut off version 
of the cross-reference when they're referred to, but have the (correct) 
short captions shown in the TOC, and the long captions shown near the 
figures themselves. So I guess my original question should be amended to 
say: How can I get proper cross-references AND short captions in the TOC 
(without too much work :)  )?

   Thanks again!

RE: Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

From: Curtis Osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:01:18 +




From: Curtis Osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:51:15 +


Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an \appendixmore 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are 
named Appendix A, Appendix B, and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
Figure C, though the figure label itself is OK as Figure C.2 (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!




  OK, so I'm going to at least partially respond to my own question.
  At least part of my problem has to do with the fact that most of my 
figures use the \caption[short caption]{ A possibly much longer caption 
here} format. The ones which do this have the (unwanted) cut off version 
of the cross-reference when they're referred to, but have the (correct) 
short captions shown in the TOC, and the long captions shown near the 
figures themselves. So I guess my original question should be amended to 
say: How can I get proper cross-references AND short captions in the TOC 
(without too much work :)  )?

   Thanks again!




 Aha.
  I *knew* that I'd find an answer after posting all this junk.
  My problem was twofold (I think):
   1. I had the figure label BEFORE the \caption command. This, 
according to http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=crossref, is a 
no-no.
   2. I *suspect* that after changing the stuff in point 1., I 
should have saved and closed, then reopened the LyX file. Sometimes I have 
to do this to get things to reliably update.


Once I took care of both of the points, I got cross-references to behave as 
I think they should.


  Cheers! Hopefully these posts won't count as spam, but might help 
future searchers of the list (including, sadly, myself).

Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Richard Kleeman]

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html


Nick Kuzmik wrote:

I found a page on the LyX wiki about importing Microsoft  Word  documents in 
LyX. http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingFromWord

Is there an efficient way output LyX files to editable doc, particularly 
forumula heavy LyX files?

Either that or how can I motivate my research advisor to learn LyX?


Nick Kuzmik
(845) 406-5115
AIM NKUZMIK

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Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Steve Harris]

Steve Harris wrote:

Richard Kleeman wrote:

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html




 htlatex demoarticle.tex produces an html file,
 which can be imported by Word and saved as a .doc

Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Steve Harris]

Richard Kleeman wrote:

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html



The standard core of LyX helper apps promote htlatex
for its quality of conversion. Rename .pdf ext to .doc


demoforlyx.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: lyx-users Digest 26 Jun 2006 15:12:57 -0000 Issue 1937

[Eitan Gurari]

  It worked very well with a slight exception. I see well close up,
  and the math equations produced are 15-20% too small. Many people
  could not read them as they are. The .jpgs are not the same size
  as the math equations displayed as when .png files are selected.
  No doubt the remedy is already contained in the documentation.
  
  They are very distinct and not blurry, if you see well close up.
  I also noticed that the tex4ht-bin had been updated May 19, 2006
  and I didn't have it. So I downloaded it and it made no apparent
  change to the quality of the htlatex outputted web page/images.

Typically, the quality of images can be improved by using outline
fonts, changing the parameters of the conversion utilities invoked
through the G-scripts of tex4ht.env, and controlling the size of the
fonts used in the source files.  -eitan

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Tomasz Łuczak]

Alex wrote:


One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.

I run (I tried it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] without success) LyX on slow
computer, but it was hard to get use it (1.3.3 with linux).

As far, I can remember LyX can run where an X server and KDE can run.
Is the Ok?
Is that means that a 200-300MHz P1 or P2 with 16-32MB ram will be enough
to run LyX?
On this machine the LaTeX will also run I am sure.

Can some of them confirm it?
LyX with XForms with Fluxbox/Windowmaker instead KDE should run on P1/P2 
with 32MB RAM.


regards
Tomasz
--
  Tomasz Łuczak

 TECHNODAT Sp. z o.o.tel +48 32 2382337
 ul. Kościuszki 1c   tel +48 32 3314484
 44-100 Gliwice, PL  mob +48 602 524713
 http://www.technodat.com.pl http://www.emrm.pl

Re: Two indexes

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

From: Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Two indexes
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:28:05 -0400

On Tuesday 04 July 2006 04:33 pm, Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
 I would need two indexes for my PhD thesis: one for persons' names, one for
 themes/concepts.

 Is it possible to have two separate indexes in LyX? If so, how should I go
 about setting up the second one?

 Also, any tips for shortcuts would be welcome. I am currently planning to
 do a manual search for the words to index, and then paste the relevant
 index mark after each of them. Very lengthy over 500+ pages.

 Thanks very much for any help you can give me over the last weeks of thesis
 work,
 Catherine Heyrendt

Similar question -- How do you do 2 tables of contents. If you look at most 
technical books, they have two tables of contents -- one either to the 
chapter or maybe section level, and one going down to subsection or 
subsubsection. I've tried to do that in the past and failed. Anyone have any 
ideas?

From the TeX UK FAQ, 
 - multiple indexes:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multind
 multiple tocs:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minitoc

HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:34:18 +0200
Tomasz Łuczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alex wrote:
  
  One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
  processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.
  
  I run (I tried it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] without success) LyX on slow
  computer, but it was hard to get use it (1.3.3 with linux).
  
  As far, I can remember LyX can run where an X server and KDE can run.
  Is the Ok?
  Is that means that a 200-300MHz P1 or P2 with 16-32MB ram will be enough
  to run LyX?
  On this machine the LaTeX will also run I am sure.
  
  Can some of them confirm it?
 LyX with XForms with Fluxbox/Windowmaker instead KDE should run on P1/P2 
 with 32MB RAM.
 

It's been quite a few years since I tried it and lyx, X and linux have grown in
abilities and size since then but I used to run everything on a 486.

You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of modules and
run a light window manager (like mentioned, fluxbox/windowmaker will work,
probably fvwm also, for the extremist there is also ratpoison and  a few
others). A pentium should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II laptop
that could hardly support win98.

KDE and Gnome are a big bloatware (in terms of both memory and cpu
requirements) that you don't want to run on a machine with less requirements
then needed for win XP.

You would probably also want lyx compiled with xforms and not qt.

On my machine, lyx-qt + X + fvwm takes together about 45MB although cutting
down is probably possible.

 regards
 Tomasz

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Steve Litt]

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 03:15 am, Micha Feigin wrote:

 You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of modules
 and run a light window manager (like mentioned, fluxbox/windowmaker will
 work, probably fvwm also, for the extremist there is also ratpoison and  a
 few others). A pentium should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II
 laptop that could hardly support win98.

Don't forget IceWM. It's not only light, but it's good. I use it on my Athlon 
2600XP with 1.5GB Ram, even though I could run the bloatiest KDE on it.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

RE: aspell on XP

[GATZKE, EDWARD P]

Thanks!  I could not get my old 1.4 install to spellcheck, but uninstalling and 
installing the latest and greatest versions worked.

The new PC installer is a godsend.  Thank you so very much anyone that worked 
on that project!


I still have issues that I can't get LyX to quit on Alt-F4 like almost all 
other windows applications.  I have messed around with my cua.bind, but nothing 
works.  I can bind Alt-4 and Ctrl-F4 to close LyX, but Alt-F4 still won't do 
anything.  This seems a small issue, but it for me is a big inconsistency in 
the way lyx works that limits usability in some cases when I try to do most 
everything without a mouse (Alt-Tab task switching, 

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Thanks again Uwe.

Ed Gatzke


-Original Message-
From:   Uwe Stöhr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Mon 7/3/2006 5:03 PM
To: Ed Gatzke
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:Re: aspell on XP

Ed Gatzke wrote:

 I have not been able to get spell checking to work on the 1.4.1 LyX build on
 Windows XP.
 
 I have installed Aspell-0-50-3-3-Setup.exe and told it to install in C:\Aspell

LyX 1.4.1 needs aspell version 0.60.x.

 I have installed aspell6-en-6.0-0.exe in a variety of places, including
 C:\Aspell  C:\Aspell\Dictionaries and C:\Aspell\lib

Don't install it several times.
You can use this LyX installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

that automatically installs and configures aspell to work together with 
LyX. All you need to do is to install some dictionaries - the installer 
asks you for this and points you to a download repository.

 I have reconfigured LyX, and spellcheck is not grayed out.

You can ignore this as this setting is by default disabled in LyX for 
wondows.

regards Uwe

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Steve Litt]

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 01:43 am, Alex wrote:
 Dear all,

 One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
 processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.

Hi Alex,

I think her initial question is unfair. Equally unfair would be Comparing MS 
Word to other book rendering programs. MS Word isn't a book rendering 
program, and LyX isn't a word processor.

In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use LyX 
for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to change 
one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole task in MS 
Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.

On the other hand, writing a book in a word processor is problematic. Yes, 
I've done it, and still sell one written in WordPerfect 5 and one written in 
MS Word, but the typography isn't nearly as professional, getting chapter 
title pages to show up on odd pages is difficult and sometimes requires fine 
tuning, hyphenation is an aboration, and table of contents and indexing is 
neither easy nor good looking nor reliable. On my WP 5 book, any change in 
pagination requires a manual reworking of the table of contents.

In LyX, once you have all your styles created (and that's a big once), it's 
absolutely trivial to produce a professional book, with the possible 
exception that you need to tag all the index words and phrases.

By the way, what I did for indexing on Troubleshooting Techniques of the 
Successful Technologist was to run the LyX file through a shellscript that 
split it into individual words and performed a unique sort. I came up with 
less than 1000 words. I then looked at every word, decided whether it, or a 
phrase including it, deserved a place in the index, weeding out all the 
extraneous words. Now armed with a list of words, within LyX I searched for 
all occurrences of each word and tagged them. If memory serves me, it took 
about 2 days to index this book of over 100,000 words, and the resulting 
index was complete and easy to use.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
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Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:10:59AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 July 2006 01:43 am, Alex wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  One student who makes her diplom about Comparing LyX to another Word
  processors, asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 I think her initial question is unfair. Equally unfair would be Comparing MS 
 Word to other book rendering programs. MS Word isn't a book rendering 
 program, and LyX isn't a word processor.
 
 In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use LyX 
 for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to change 
 one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole task in MS 
 Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.
...


Oh, boo ...   ;-)

I write nearly everything in LyX, from letters to the 12 or 15 page
exams I give every 6 weeks or so.  I wouldn't dream of using Word or
the equivalent for these, and my trust in LyX/LaTeX/TeX has
consistently been rewarded.

The times it doesn't work for me and others in my family are 1) when
I'm trying to quickly figure out how to print names of players on an
AYSO game card (O.O., the Word equivalent), 2) I'm creating a handout
requiring page layout work (Scribus), or 3) my kids' work requires some
screwed up formatting a reference page, and I don't know ERT.  I do not
come from a computer/TeX background, so this is hard to do without the
excellent help found on this list.  

Cheers,


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Steve Litt wrote:


In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use
LyX for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to
change one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole
task in MS Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.


  Perhaps your opinion is based on your practice of self-publishing books.
Take a look at my web site (follow either the What's New or Publication
links) and you'll see a bunch of 5-10 page articles written in LyX.

  Not only was it quicker and easier to write them with LyX, but the pdf
output cannot be matched by OpenOffice.org's writer, AbiWord, or any other
word processor.

  So, whiile I might have rocks accompanying the extra holes in my head, my
use of the application is obviously vastly different from yours, so our
opinions of the type of writing for which LyX is best suited also greatly
differ.

  Other than the occasional, odd-ball need, I use the standard environments
just as the LyX/LaTeX authors designed them. I suspect from your posts that
what you really need is a personalized TeX macro system (neither LaTeX nor
ConTeX) and your own GUI interface to it.

  Given the apparent original post (which I did not read), I run LyX on my
7-year-old Toshiba Portege 3025-CT. It has a 300MHz Pentium-MMX processor,
96M RAM (the maximum allowed), and a 6G hard drive. So, LyX would be ideal
for someone writing a thesis. However, you are correct when you note that
comparing LyX/LaTeX to Microsoft's Word is an invalid comparison. They're two
completely different applications.

Rich

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Index more small

[icebna]

Hi all :
I'm sorry. I lost how make that the superscript number are more small. 
Is very big to my work.

Thanks advanced
Miguel

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Ingo Klöcker]

Am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2006 15:56 schrieb Steve Litt:
 On Wednesday 05 July 2006 03:15 am, Micha Feigin wrote:
  You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of
  modules and run a light window manager (like mentioned,
  fluxbox/windowmaker will work, probably fvwm also, for the
  extremist there is also ratpoison and  a few others). A pentium
  should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II laptop that
  could hardly support win98.

 Don't forget IceWM. It's not only light, but it's good. I use it on
 my Athlon 2600XP with 1.5GB Ram, even though I could run the
 bloatiest KDE on it.

Luckily, KDE is anything but bloat. KDE provides a lot of functionality 
and that's why a lot of services are started when you run KDE. But none 
of those services is a memory hog nor do they use a lot of CPU power. 
It is not in the least surprising that a window manager is way more 
lean than KDE because KDE is not a window manager but a full-blown 
desktop which includes a window manager as one of many components.

Now for something on topic: I wrote my diploma thesis in 1998 with LyX 
0.10 or 0.12 on a Pentium 90 with 48 MB (IIRC). I'm not sure how 
relevant this information is because we are now at LyX 1.4.

Regards,
Ingo


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Re: Index more small

[Paul A. Rubin]

icebna wrote:

Hi all :
I'm sorry. I lost how make that the superscript number are more small. 
Is very big to my work.

Thanks advanced
Miguel



Is this what you need?

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/30672

Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an \appendixmore 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are named 
Appendix A, Appendix B, and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
Figure C, though the figure label itself is OK as Figure C.2 (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!

RE: Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

From: Curtis Osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:51:15 +


Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an \appendixmore 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are named 
Appendix A, Appendix B, and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
Figure C, though the figure label itself is OK as Figure C.2 (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!




  OK, so I'm going to at least partially respond to my own question.
  At least part of my problem has to do with the fact that most of my 
figures use the \caption[short caption]{ A possibly much longer caption 
here} format. The ones which do this have the (unwanted) cut off version 
of the cross-reference when they're referred to, but have the (correct) 
short captions shown in the TOC, and the long captions shown near the 
figures themselves. So I guess my original question should be amended to 
say: How can I get proper cross-references AND short captions in the TOC 
(without too much work :)  )?

   Thanks again!

RE: Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

From: Curtis Osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:01:18 +




From: Curtis Osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:51:15 +


Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an \appendixmore 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are 
named Appendix A, Appendix B, and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
Figure C, though the figure label itself is OK as Figure C.2 (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!




  OK, so I'm going to at least partially respond to my own question.
  At least part of my problem has to do with the fact that most of my 
figures use the \caption[short caption]{ A possibly much longer caption 
here} format. The ones which do this have the (unwanted) cut off version 
of the cross-reference when they're referred to, but have the (correct) 
short captions shown in the TOC, and the long captions shown near the 
figures themselves. So I guess my original question should be amended to 
say: How can I get proper cross-references AND short captions in the TOC 
(without too much work :)  )?

   Thanks again!




 Aha.
  I *knew* that I'd find an answer after posting all this junk.
  My problem was twofold (I think):
   1. I had the figure label BEFORE the \caption command. This, 
according to http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=crossref, is a 
no-no.
   2. I *suspect* that after changing the stuff in point 1., I 
should have saved and closed, then reopened the LyX file. Sometimes I have 
to do this to get things to reliably update.


Once I took care of both of the points, I got cross-references to behave as 
I think they should.


  Cheers! Hopefully these posts won't count as spam, but might help 
future searchers of the list (including, sadly, myself).

Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Richard Kleeman]

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html


Nick Kuzmik wrote:

I found a page on the LyX wiki about importing Microsoft  Word  documents in 
LyX. http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingFromWord

Is there an efficient way output LyX files to editable doc, particularly 
forumula heavy LyX files?

Either that or how can I motivate my research advisor to learn LyX?


Nick Kuzmik
(845) 406-5115
AIM NKUZMIK

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Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Steve Harris]

Steve Harris wrote:

Richard Kleeman wrote:

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html




 htlatex demoarticle.tex produces an html file,
 which can be imported by Word and saved as a .doc

Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Steve Harris]

Richard Kleeman wrote:

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html



The standard core of LyX helper apps promote htlatex
for its quality of conversion. Rename .pdf ext to .doc


demoforlyx.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: lyx-users Digest 26 Jun 2006 15:12:57 -0000 Issue 1937

[Eitan Gurari]

  It worked very well with a slight exception. I see well close up,
  and the math equations produced are 15-20% too small. Many people
  could not read them as they are. The .jpgs are not the same size
  as the math equations displayed as when .png files are selected.
  No doubt the remedy is already contained in the documentation.
  
  They are very distinct and not blurry, if you see well close up.
  I also noticed that the tex4ht-bin had been updated May 19, 2006
  and I didn't have it. So I downloaded it and it made no apparent
  change to the quality of the htlatex outputted web page/images.

Typically, the quality of images can be improved by using outline
fonts, changing the parameters of the conversion utilities invoked
through the G-scripts of tex4ht.env, and controlling the size of the
fonts used in the source files.  -eitan

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Tomasz Łuczak]

Alex wrote:


One student who makes her diplom about "Comparing LyX to another Word
processors", asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.

I run (I tried it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] without success) LyX on slow
computer, but it was hard to get use it (1.3.3 with linux).

As far, I can remember LyX can run where an X server and KDE can run.
Is the Ok?
Is that means that a 200-300MHz P1 or P2 with 16-32MB ram will be enough
to run LyX?
On this machine the LaTeX will also run I am sure.

Can some of them confirm it?
LyX with XForms with Fluxbox/Windowmaker instead KDE should run on P1/P2 
with 32MB RAM.


regards
Tomasz
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Re: Two indexes

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

>>From: Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
>>Subject: Re: Two indexes
>>Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:28:05 -0400
>>
>>On Tuesday 04 July 2006 04:33 pm, Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
>>> I would need two indexes for my PhD thesis: one for persons' names, one for
>>> themes/concepts.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to have two separate indexes in LyX? If so, how should I go
>>> about setting up the second one?
>>>
>>> Also, any tips for shortcuts would be welcome. I am currently planning to
>>> do a manual search for the words to index, and then paste the relevant
>>> index mark after each of them. Very lengthy over 500+ pages.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for any help you can give me over the last weeks of thesis
>>> work,
>>> Catherine Heyrendt
>>
>>Similar question -- How do you do 2 tables of contents. If you look at most 
>>technical books, they have two tables of contents -- one either to the 
>>chapter or maybe section level, and one going down to subsection or 
>>subsubsection. I've tried to do that in the past and failed. Anyone have any 
>>ideas?

>From the TeX UK FAQ, 
 - multiple indexes:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multind
 multiple tocs:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=minitoc

HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:34:18 +0200
Tomasz Łuczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alex wrote:
> > 
> > One student who makes her diplom about "Comparing LyX to another Word
> > processors", asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.
> > 
> > I run (I tried it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] without success) LyX on slow
> > computer, but it was hard to get use it (1.3.3 with linux).
> > 
> > As far, I can remember LyX can run where an X server and KDE can run.
> > Is the Ok?
> > Is that means that a 200-300MHz P1 or P2 with 16-32MB ram will be enough
> > to run LyX?
> > On this machine the LaTeX will also run I am sure.
> > 
> > Can some of them confirm it?
> LyX with XForms with Fluxbox/Windowmaker instead KDE should run on P1/P2 
> with 32MB RAM.
> 

It's been quite a few years since I tried it and lyx, X and linux have grown in
abilities and size since then but I used to run everything on a 486.

You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of modules and
run a light window manager (like mentioned, fluxbox/windowmaker will work,
probably fvwm also, for the extremist there is also ratpoison and  a few
others). A pentium should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II laptop
that could hardly support win98.

KDE and Gnome are a big bloatware (in terms of both memory and cpu
requirements) that you don't want to run on a machine with less requirements
then needed for win XP.

You would probably also want lyx compiled with xforms and not qt.

On my machine, lyx-qt + X + fvwm takes together about 45MB although cutting
down is probably possible.

> regards
> Tomasz

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Steve Litt]

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 03:15 am, Micha Feigin wrote:

> You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of modules
> and run a light window manager (like mentioned, fluxbox/windowmaker will
> work, probably fvwm also, for the extremist there is also ratpoison and  a
> few others). A pentium should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II
> laptop that could hardly support win98.

Don't forget IceWM. It's not only light, but it's good. I use it on my Athlon 
2600XP with 1.5GB Ram, even though I could run the bloatiest KDE on it.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

RE: aspell on XP

[GATZKE, EDWARD P]

Thanks!  I could not get my old 1.4 install to spellcheck, but uninstalling and 
installing the latest and greatest versions worked.

The new PC installer is a godsend.  Thank you so very much anyone that worked 
on that project!


I still have issues that I can't get LyX to quit on Alt-F4 like almost all 
other windows applications.  I have messed around with my cua.bind, but nothing 
works.  I can bind Alt-4 and Ctrl-F4 to close LyX, but Alt-F4 still won't do 
anything.  This seems a small issue, but it for me is a big inconsistency in 
the way lyx works that limits usability in some cases when I try to do most 
everything without a mouse (Alt-Tab task switching, 

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Thanks again Uwe.

Ed Gatzke


-Original Message-
From:   Uwe Stöhr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Mon 7/3/2006 5:03 PM
To: Ed Gatzke
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:Re: aspell on XP

Ed Gatzke wrote:

> I have not been able to get spell checking to work on the 1.4.1 LyX build on
> Windows XP.
> 
> I have installed Aspell-0-50-3-3-Setup.exe and told it to install in C:\Aspell

LyX 1.4.1 needs aspell version 0.60.x.

> I have installed aspell6-en-6.0-0.exe in a variety of places, including
> C:\Aspell  C:\Aspell\Dictionaries and C:\Aspell\lib

Don't install it several times.
You can use this LyX installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

that automatically installs and configures aspell to work together with 
LyX. All you need to do is to install some dictionaries - the installer 
asks you for this and points you to a download repository.

> I have reconfigured LyX, and spellcheck is not grayed out.

You can ignore this as this setting is by default disabled in LyX for 
wondows.

regards Uwe

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Steve Litt]

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 01:43 am, Alex wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> One student who makes her diplom about "Comparing LyX to another Word
> processors", asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.

Hi Alex,

I think her initial question is unfair. Equally unfair would be "Comparing MS 
Word to other book rendering programs". MS Word isn't a book rendering 
program, and LyX isn't a word processor.

In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use LyX 
for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to change 
one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole task in MS 
Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.

On the other hand, writing a book in a word processor is problematic. Yes, 
I've done it, and still sell one written in WordPerfect 5 and one written in 
MS Word, but the typography isn't nearly as professional, getting chapter 
title pages to show up on odd pages is difficult and sometimes requires fine 
tuning, hyphenation is an aboration, and table of contents and indexing is 
neither easy nor good looking nor reliable. On my WP 5 book, any change in 
pagination requires a manual reworking of the table of contents.

In LyX, once you have all your styles created (and that's a big "once"), it's 
absolutely trivial to produce a professional book, with the possible 
exception that you need to tag all the index words and phrases.

By the way, what I did for indexing on "Troubleshooting Techniques of the 
Successful Technologist" was to run the LyX file through a shellscript that 
split it into individual words and performed a unique sort. I came up with 
less than 1000 words. I then looked at every word, decided whether it, or a 
phrase including it, deserved a place in the index, weeding out all the 
extraneous words. Now armed with a list of words, within LyX I searched for 
all occurrences of each word and tagged them. If memory serves me, it took 
about 2 days to index this book of over 100,000 words, and the resulting 
index was complete and easy to use.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:10:59AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 July 2006 01:43 am, Alex wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > One student who makes her diplom about "Comparing LyX to another Word
> > processors", asked me about the minimum HW required fo LyX.
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> I think her initial question is unfair. Equally unfair would be "Comparing MS 
> Word to other book rendering programs". MS Word isn't a book rendering 
> program, and LyX isn't a word processor.
> 
> In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use LyX 
> for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to change 
> one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole task in MS 
> Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.
...


Oh, boo ...   ;-)

I write nearly everything in LyX, from letters to the 12 or 15 page
exams I give every 6 weeks or so.  I wouldn't dream of using Word or
the equivalent for these, and my trust in LyX/LaTeX/TeX has
consistently been rewarded.

The times it doesn't work for me and others in my family are 1) when
I'm trying to quickly figure out how to print names of players on an
AYSO game card (O.O., the Word equivalent), 2) I'm creating a handout
requiring page layout work (Scribus), or 3) my kids' work requires some
screwed up formatting a reference page, and I don't know ERT.  I do not
come from a computer/TeX background, so this is hard to do without the
excellent help found on this list.  

Cheers,


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Steve Litt wrote:


In my personal opinion, one would have to have rocks in their head to use
LyX for a 5 or 10 page document. In the time it takes to figure out how to
change one style (Environment) in LyX, you could have completed the whole
task in MS Word, WordPerfect or OpenOffice.


  Perhaps your opinion is based on your practice of self-publishing books.
Take a look at my web site (follow either the What's New or Publication
links) and you'll see a bunch of 5-10 page articles written in LyX.

  Not only was it quicker and easier to write them with LyX, but the pdf
output cannot be matched by OpenOffice.org's writer, AbiWord, or any other
word processor.

  So, whiile I might have rocks accompanying the extra holes in my head, my
use of the application is obviously vastly different from yours, so our
opinions of the type of writing for which LyX is best suited also greatly
differ.

  Other than the occasional, odd-ball need, I use the standard environments
just as the LyX/LaTeX authors designed them. I suspect from your posts that
what you really need is a personalized TeX macro system (neither LaTeX nor
ConTeX) and your own GUI interface to it.

  Given the apparent original post (which I did not read), I run LyX on my
7-year-old Toshiba Portege 3025-CT. It has a 300MHz Pentium-MMX processor,
96M RAM (the maximum allowed), and a 6G hard drive. So, LyX would be ideal
for someone writing a thesis. However, you are correct when you note that
comparing LyX/LaTeX to Microsoft's Word is an invalid comparison. They're two
completely different applications.

Rich

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Index more small

[icebna]

Hi all :
I'm sorry. I lost how make that the superscript number are more small. 
Is very big to my work.

Thanks advanced
Miguel

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[Ingo Klöcker]

Am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2006 15:56 schrieb Steve Litt:
> On Wednesday 05 July 2006 03:15 am, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > You would need a smartly compile linux, keep X small in terms of
> > modules and run a light window manager (like mentioned,
> > fluxbox/windowmaker will work, probably fvwm also, for the
> > extremist there is also ratpoison and  a few others). A pentium
> > should work also. I already ran it on a pentium II laptop that
> > could hardly support win98.
>
> Don't forget IceWM. It's not only light, but it's good. I use it on
> my Athlon 2600XP with 1.5GB Ram, even though I could run the
> bloatiest KDE on it.

Luckily, KDE is anything but bloat. KDE provides a lot of functionality 
and that's why a lot of services are started when you run KDE. But none 
of those services is a memory hog nor do they use a lot of CPU power. 
It is not in the least surprising that a window manager is way more 
lean than KDE because KDE is not a window manager but a full-blown 
desktop which includes a window manager as one of many components.

Now for something on topic: I wrote my diploma thesis in 1998 with LyX 
0.10 or 0.12 on a Pentium 90 with 48 MB (IIRC). I'm not sure how 
relevant this information is because we are now at LyX 1.4.

Regards,
Ingo


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Re: Index more small

[Paul A. Rubin]

icebna wrote:

Hi all :
I'm sorry. I lost how make that the superscript number are more small. 
Is very big to my work.

Thanks advanced
Miguel



Is this what you need?

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/30672

Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an "\appendixmore" 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are named 
"Appendix A", "Appendix B", and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
"Figure C", though the figure label itself is OK as "Figure C.2" (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!

RE: Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

From: "Curtis Osterhoudt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:51:15 +


Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an "\appendixmore" 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are named 
"Appendix A", "Appendix B", and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
"Figure C", though the figure label itself is OK as "Figure C.2" (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!




  OK, so I'm going to at least partially respond to my own question.
  At least part of my problem has to do with the fact that most of my 
figures use the \caption[short caption]{ A possibly much longer caption 
here} format. The ones which do this have the (unwanted) "cut off" version 
of the cross-reference when they're referred to, but have the (correct) 
short captions shown in the TOC, and the long captions shown near the 
figures themselves. So I guess my original question should be amended to 
say: How can I get proper cross-references AND short captions in the TOC 
(without too much work :)  )?

   Thanks again!

RE: Cross-references within an Appendix

[Curtis Osterhoudt]

From: "Curtis Osterhoudt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:01:18 +




From: "Curtis Osterhoudt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Cross-references within an Appendix
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:51:15 +


Hi, all,

   I have several figures, tables, etc. within various appendices in a 
document. I've been writing the appendices as separate LyX files, then 
INCLUDEing them in a master document, with (in ERT) an "\appendixmore" 
before each of the included files. Because of this, my appendices are 
named "Appendix A", "Appendix B", and so on (which I want).
  When I reference (say) a figure in Appendix C, either from within the 
main text, or from within Appendix C itself, the figure is referred to as 
"Figure C", though the figure label itself is OK as "Figure C.2" (or 
whatever). How may I fix this?


   Thanks!




  OK, so I'm going to at least partially respond to my own question.
  At least part of my problem has to do with the fact that most of my 
figures use the \caption[short caption]{ A possibly much longer caption 
here} format. The ones which do this have the (unwanted) "cut off" version 
of the cross-reference when they're referred to, but have the (correct) 
short captions shown in the TOC, and the long captions shown near the 
figures themselves. So I guess my original question should be amended to 
say: How can I get proper cross-references AND short captions in the TOC 
(without too much work :)  )?

   Thanks again!




 Aha.
  I *knew* that I'd find an answer after posting all this junk.
  My problem was twofold (I think):
   1. I had the figure label BEFORE the \caption command. This, 
according to http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=crossref, is a 
no-no.
   2. I *suspect* that after changing the stuff in point 1., I 
should have saved and closed, then reopened the LyX file. Sometimes I have 
to do this to get things to reliably update.


Once I took care of both of the points, I got cross-references to behave as 
I think they should.


  Cheers! Hopefully these posts won't count as spam, but might help 
future searchers of the list (including, sadly, myself).

Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Richard Kleeman]

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html


Nick Kuzmik wrote:

I found a page on the LyX wiki about importing Microsoft  Word  documents in 
LyX. http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingFromWord

Is there an efficient way output LyX files to editable doc, particularly 
forumula heavy LyX files?

Either that or how can I motivate my research advisor to learn LyX?


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Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Steve Harris]

Steve Harris wrote:

Richard Kleeman wrote:

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html




 "htlatex demoarticle.tex" produces an html file,
 which can be imported by Word and saved as a .doc

Re: Export to Microsoft Word

[Steve Harris]

Richard Kleeman wrote:

Export to a latex file and then try this page:

http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html



The standard core of LyX helper apps promote htlatex
for its quality of conversion. Rename .pdf ext to .doc


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Re: lyx-users Digest 26 Jun 2006 15:12:57 -0000 Issue 1937

[Eitan Gurari]

 > It worked very well with a slight exception. I see well close up,
 > and the math equations produced are 15-20% too small. Many people
 > could not read them as they are. The .jpgs are not the same size
 > as the math equations displayed as when .png files are selected.
 > No doubt the remedy is already contained in the documentation.
 > 
 > They are very distinct and not blurry, if you see well close up.
 > I also noticed that the tex4ht-bin had been updated May 19, 2006
 > and I didn't have it. So I downloaded it and it made no apparent
 > change to the quality of the htlatex outputted web page/images.

Typically, the quality of images can be improved by using outline
fonts, changing the parameters of the conversion utilities invoked
through the G-scripts of tex4ht.env, and controlling the size of the
fonts used in the source files.  -eitan