Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 21:00 schrieb David Halpern:
 Georg,
 I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.

Then that looks like a general bug in the windows version. Can other 
windows users confirm this?


Georg



Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:26 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
 Myriam Abramson wrote:
  The Framesubtitle feature of
  beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
 
 Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 

Yes, it does. Maybe the windows installer includes an outdated 
beamer.layout?


Georg



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:31 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
 Hi all,
 
 First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
 installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
 
 I went into Tools-Preferences ...-Converters, and the LaTeX-PDF 
 (pdflatex) converter was gone.  In its place was a LaTeX (pdflatex)-PDF 
 (pdflatex) converter, which apparently was not getting the job done.  I 
 assume this change occurred when I installed 1.4.2.  Has anyone else 
 tripped over this?

That converter is (or should be) actually the same: the pdflatex.exe 
compiler. Does Export-PDF (pdflatex) still exist?


Georg



Re: Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)

2006-07-16 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some
 useful tips on.

I think it would be enough for a start to reorder the FAQ to some more useful 
categories, as it is the most important entry point. Unsorted and Unsorted 
1 is not really transparent. And we should try to link from the FAQ 
questions to the more detailed pages where appropriate.

Also, people should begin to point to the FAQ in the user-lists, so that it 
becomes more popular, and of course add content.

Jürgen


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Sven Schreiber
Georg Baum schrieb:
 Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 21:00 schrieb David Halpern:
 Georg,
 I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.
 
 Then that looks like a general bug in the windows version. Can other 
 windows users confirm this?
 
 
 Georg
 

No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
rights, and I have a full python on the system.
-sven


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.

Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?

David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do? 
Do you have a full python?


Georg



printing multiple 3x5 cards on a single piece of A4

2006-07-16 Thread Pete Phillips
Hi

I have a lyx template which I use for printing onto 3x5 index cards (for
GTD stuff).

I have been asked if it is possible to print 4 of the index cards on a
single piece of A4 so that the cards can then be cut up with a guillotine.

I have tried using psnup to postprocess an exported PS file, but it
appears to want to shrink the 3x5 cards. I tried using the '-W3in -H5in'
flags to psnup but no joy - instead f getting 4 full size 3x5 cards on
the a4, I had shrunken cards!

Any ideas, pointers etc appreciated.

Many thanks,
Pete


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Sven Schreiber
Georg Baum schrieb:
 Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.
 
 Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
 information-rescan?


I don't know. First of all, I get no feedback after clicking rescan if
it is finished. Then, I don't know where nowadays the lst-files are
located -- I think I would find them in a 1.3 setup...

What are the exact symptoms we are looking for anyway? Maybe I would
have the problem when doing stuff I don't usually do.

-sven



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Ed Gatzke

Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!

My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.  From a wiki:
Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 



Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Hi all,
 
 First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
 installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
 

I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 

C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.




Chapter* not to occur in TOC

2006-07-16 Thread Kai Johannes Keller
Hi,

I'm using lyx-1.4.1 for writing my diploma-thesis in the
amsbook-documentclass. I appreciate very much the new subtopics within
the menues, especially in document-preferences. Now I can see exacly
what will be in my ToC and what will not.

Unfotunately though, I cannot change the Chapter* (and other
*-environments) option to no without loosing also the
no-star-environments in the ToC.

Is there a way to tell LyX / LaTeX not to show the *-environments in
ToC?

I wonder why they show up at all, cause I thought not showing up should
be the LaTeX-default...

Any help's appreciated, thanks

Regards

-Kai-





The well known *inputenc* problem - what is left from D. Knuths Idea?

2006-07-16 Thread Heiko Schröder
Dear list, 

browsing down the recent mails of the archive, I found that a lot of users 
found themselves vaced to that disgusting problem which occurs with the 
*inputenc* package, although it sureley has nothing to do with the package 
itself. Writing a single German diphtong goes well with LyX. But if you load 
the same TeX-File in vim 7.0, substitute that letter with an ASCII-sign, save 
the file and open again with vim to get the old German letter back, then the 
latex-dance failes with that annyoing problem, most of you know. 

I did not find any solution in the list up to now. But what is much more 
important to say: D. Knuths idea was that it should be able to translate 
LaTeX-files even in 100 years. I wonder what is left from that splendid idea. 

I am working with LyX since 1997 and it is not only good any more, it is 
splendid software. But what about the people who need a better editor (since 
LyX is much more) like vim? The main aim of LaTeX was IMHO that the author 
can focus on his work. The amount of time which is saved in contrast to 
wordprocessors now comes *much* more back for the search of the solution of 
that *inputenc* problem which is hardly possible to explain since the two 
TeX-Files written by vim and exported by LyX are identical. 

If you have any comments or ideas, thanks a lot
Heiko

-- 
Heiko Schröder
Praha, Ceska Republika
http://www.od.shuttle.de/evb-1


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread David Halpern

On 7/16/06, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.

Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX
information-rescan?

David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do?
Do you have a full python?



Georg,
yes I installed (the small installer) with admin rights.  I don't have  this
problem with lyx 1.3.7. I am not sure whether I have the full python. I have
version 2.4 which I must have installed together with lyx 1.3.7.

David



Georg





Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:

No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
rights, and I have a full python on the system.


Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?


David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do? 
Do you have a full python?



Georg





No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.

Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.
But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again. The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).

I've also noticed the Latex-Html converter is no longer listed
under Preferences/converters; it used to show htlatex. Nor does
it detect hevea.exe even with htlatex disabled. I know this is
a different kettle of fish, but I though it might point to the
configure.py or some .py script not working. But if htlatex is
present, then configure.py finds it (yes) and I see it appear
in lyxrc.defaults also for what it's worth. I enclose a before
picture of Tex Information. After doctoring it, it looks normal.
What the two situations have in common is that the python scripts
seem to work, but their outputs do not later appear as expected.
Other aspects of the installation seem to work quite well.

Regards,
Stephen







Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread David Halpern

On 7/16/06, Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Georg Baum wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.

 Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX
 information-rescan?

 David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you
do?
 Do you have a full python?


 Georg




No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a
the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.

Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.
But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again. The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).

I've also noticed the Latex-Html converter is no longer listed
under Preferences/converters; it used to show htlatex. Nor does
it detect hevea.exe even with htlatex disabled. I know this is
a different kettle of fish, but I though it might point to the
configure.py or some .py script not working. But if htlatex is
present, then configure.py finds it (yes) and I see it appear
in lyxrc.defaults also for what it's worth. I enclose a before
picture of Tex Information. After doctoring it, it looks normal.
What the two situations have in common is that the python scripts
seem to work, but their outputs do not later appear as expected.
Other aspects of the installation seem to work quite well.

Regards,
Stephen



Stephen,
Your instructions on TeX information worked. Thanks.
David


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Bo Peng

I can confirm that rescan
1. works for 1.4.2.svn under windows, which uses the shell version of TeXFile.sh
2. works for 1.4.3svn under linux, which uses the python version
3. does not work for 1.4.2 under windows, which uses the python version.

It looks like a windows problem since 1.4.3svn is basically 1.4.2 right now.

Bo


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Bo Peng

On 7/16/06, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can confirm that rescan
1. works for 1.4.2.svn under windows, which uses the shell version of TeXFile.sh
2. works for 1.4.3svn under linux, which uses the python version
3. does not work for 1.4.2 under windows, which uses the python version.


and rescan in 1.4.2 works well under linux.

Bo


Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

2006-07-16 Thread Roy Schestowitz

___/ On Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:16:12 BST, [ Rich Shepard ] wrote : \___


On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...



It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the difference
between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when pronouncing LyX
compared to eg licks.


  More like leeks, eh?



I have always thought it was pronounced leek, as in latek.
Other  people whom I speak to pronounced it leeks. Perhaps
my  inclination  is  a borrowed habit from  the  friend  who
introduced  me to LyX back in 2001. Either way, this reminds
meof   {(Open)SuSE}OR{SUSE}   and   {Linux}OR{GNU/Linux}
controversies,  let  alone  the pronunciation of  Linux  and
SuSE.



Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?


  Ha! Not when you work for yourself and have to rebuild a business.

Rich



--
Roy S. Schestowitz  |Y |-(1^2)|^(1/2)+1 K
http://Schestowitz.com  |  GNU is Not UNIX  | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
roy  pts/8 Sun Jul 16 11:28 - 11:28  (00:00)



Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:26 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Myriam Abramson wrote:

The Framesubtitle feature of
beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 


Yes, it does. Maybe the windows installer includes an outdated 
beamer.layout?



Georg




I do not think the Windows installer has a Beamer layout at all.  (Is 
there not some issue with licensing?)  I use the one that Till Tantau 
ships with Beamer.


At any rate, the FrameSubtitle environment does in fact exist (even in 
Windows); you just have to scroll down the environment list quite a ways 
to find it.  (Myriam:  it's just above Institute, if that helps.)  I 
never put subtitles on frames, so I never bothered to look for it.


I think there's a variant of the layout file floating around from 
somewhere; I seem to (vaguely) recall seeing it mentioned on the list. 
I can only vouch for the one that comes with Beamer (version 1.16).


Sorry, my bad.

/Paul




Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:31 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Hi all,

First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).


I went into Tools-Preferences ...-Converters, and the LaTeX-PDF 
(pdflatex) converter was gone.  In its place was a LaTeX (pdflatex)-PDF 
(pdflatex) converter, which apparently was not getting the job done.  I 
assume this change occurred when I installed 1.4.2.  Has anyone else 
tripped over this?


That converter is (or should be) actually the same: the pdflatex.exe 
compiler. Does Export-PDF (pdflatex) still exist?



Georg




No in 1.4.1, yes in 1.4.2.  In other words, after 1.4.2 installed (and 
changed the preferences file), it could view/export PDF (pdflatex) but 
1.4.1 could not.  Since LyX to LaTeX conversion is built in (not set 
through preferences), I assume this means that 1.4.2 knows how to 
convert LyX to the new LaTeX (pdflatex) format and 1.4.1 does not.


It's not a huge problem.  It's not a problem at all if you are either a 
trusting and soul and replace 1.4.1 with 1.4.2, or conservative and do 
not upgrade.  It's only an issue for the semi-brave, like me, who 
install the new version but keep the old one.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:
Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?



Georg,

I'm not Sven :-) but I installed 1.4.2 (Joost's installer) and (a) it 
found all the LaTeX stuff during the initial installation and (b) the 
.lst files do get regenerated with a rescan.  Note that I had the .lst 
files left over from 1.4.1, but based on the file dates it appears that 
1.4.2's installer rewrote them.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin
(Disclaimer:  what follows below was done on my laptop, which we've 
established was manufactured in an alternative dimension)


Steve Harris wrote:
No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.


Not only does it work for me, but I hid the bstFiles.lst file (by 
renaming it), started LyX 1.4.2, went to Tools-TeX Information-BibTeX 
styles, and bstFiles.lst was reconstituted automagically (without my 
having to click Rescan).  I did this about three times to convince 
myself that the gods were not playing with me.  (If they were, they were 
unusually single-minded about it.)


Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.


Same here.


But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again.


Same here.


The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).


Works for me (on the laptop -- haven't tried any other machines).

Since Bo also says it does not work (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only Windows user for whom it does work), perhaps we should be looking 
for environmental similarities/differences.


/Paul



Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:




The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...

I suspect that the sound snippet where Linus Torvalds pronounces linux 
helped promote linux quite a bit...


Not to mention settling more than a few arguments -- as the developer 
and benevolent god of Linux, he gets the last word on how it's 
pronounced.  I suppose Matthias Ettrich would be the official arbiter of 
pronunciation here?  (And, by the way, you don't want to know how we 
Americans pronounce Matthias.)


It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the 
difference between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when 
pronouncing LyX compared to eg licks.


Some of us can.  We just can't reproduce it.  Anyway, the official 
American policy on language is (a) pronounce it any way we damned well 
please and then (b) tell you that you're pronouncing it wrong, even if 
the word comes from your native language.  :-)  (In the case of the 
Brits, we will also take time to point out that they spell a lot of 
words incorrectly, such as programme.)




[* ] The advantage with a long vacation is that first you can go away 
with your significant other and then you can also get some playtime on 
your own. In a few days I'll be off to see Vienna and Innsbruck in 
Austria :-)


Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?

;-)


Three months (college professor), although I only have one month left.  ;-)

/Paul



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Ed Gatzke wrote:

Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!


Another thing to add to the mystery of alt-F4.


My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.


Works out of the box for me.


 From a wiki:

Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 


That's slightly dated. LyX 1.4.2 (the small installer) installs them 
automatically in the latextools folder under the LyX root folder.  Do 
you not have them there?


First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).




I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 


C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.


Actually, for this problem at least it suffices to add back the 
LaTeX-PDF (pdflatex) converter.  So far, that's the only 
incompatibility I've seen introduced in the preference file, and I'm 
able to run them side-by-side.  Of course, I haven't reconfigured 1.4.2 
since the initial installation, so I don't know if a reconfigure will 
once again vaporize the LaTeX-PDF (pdflatex) conversion path.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Georg Baum wrote:
Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?



Georg,

I'm not Sven :-) but I installed 1.4.2 (Joost's installer) and (a) it 
found all the LaTeX stuff during the initial installation and (b) the 
.lst files do get regenerated with a rescan.  Note that I had the .lst 
files left over from 1.4.1, but based on the file dates it appears that 
1.4.2's installer rewrote them.


/Paul




If Lyx is open, Tex Information displays properly since I've fixed it.

I navigated to Resources and C:\~\Resources ren *.lst *.bak

If LyX is still open you can display Tex Information again.

But, if you close LyX and re-open after renaming the *lst to *.bak
Tex Information does not display. Nor does Rescan rebuild the *.lst
so that Tex Information displays properly.

In my case Rescan only reads the .lst files if they are present.
I think that is why it worked for you, because you retained them.
Rescan is supposed to take several seconds because it searches \texmf.

After seeing that Rescan still doesn't work, I renamed the
*.bak to *.lst, and clicked on Rescan which then worked with the
*.lst files once again available to be read in Resources. But
Rescan itself still doesn't work, it should take several seconds
to produce a result as it searches texmf, not return almost at
once which it did after I moved the .lst files from ~\sripts
to Resources, or renamed the .lst files already in Resources.

I think one way to test the Rescan is actually working to
rename the .lst files temporarily. Then open LyX and see if
Tex Information appears. If it doesn't, try Rescan, which is
supposed to build Tex Information again. I don't think it will.

Regards,
Stephen


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
(Disclaimer:  what follows below was done on my laptop, which we've 
established was manufactured in an alternative dimension)




Is this one of those farin laptops from the Far East? I have heard
that the North Koreans have infiltrated the Taiwan computer industry
and have inserted top secret Many Worlds modules disguised to look
like L2 cache for testing purposes; a plan for Many Worlds dominion!


Steve Harris wrote:
No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.


Not only does it work for me, but I hid the bstFiles.lst file (by 
renaming it), started LyX 1.4.2, went to Tools-TeX Information-BibTeX 
styles, and bstFiles.lst was reconstituted automagically (without my 
having to click Rescan).  I did this about three times to convince 
myself that the gods were not playing with me.  (If they were, they were 
unusually single-minded about it.)




I could hardly believe this and even came up with the renaming scheme
for testing independently which is already written in another post.
I can remember when TeX Information was not automatic. The first time
you opened it up it did the initial scan then. I suggest buying a 
lottery ticket. Just don't forget who gave you the idea ;-)



Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.


Same here.


But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again.


Same here.


The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).


Works for me (on the laptop -- haven't tried any other machines).



McCarthy says the laptop is under suspicion of being a pinko machine :-)

Since Bo also says it does not work (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only Windows user for whom it does work), perhaps we should be looking 
for environmental similarities/differences.


/Paul




Aha! I put LyX and and bin and resources in the front of Path.
Uninstalled LyX and re-installed. Deleted both shell and python.
Tried rescan and it worked.

I uninstalled Lyx again and re-installed. Tex Info didn't work.
I deleted shell and it didn't work. I restored shell and deleted
python and lo and behold Tex Information worked like in the good
old days. The screen stayed blank for a few seconds but I could
hear the hard drive working. Then it opened up to display Tex
Information; I didn't have to run Rescan starting from a
blank Tex Info screen. The first time clicking Tex Info did it.

I tested Rescan, somewhat. I think it was working because I
couldn't click on close for several seconds and close it.
That is how it used to be. Then I restored python from the
Recycler. Rescan does not appear to work then as clicking
on the close button immediately closes Rescan instead of
their being a delay until Rescan finishes processing.

I guess that doesn't explain why you having the Python
subdir under LyX works ok, but I have to delete that
subdir before Tex Information works right. Still seems
like an environmental difference but it is narrowed down.
Using the system Python2.4 seems to work ok. One odd
thing is that I no longer have any .lst files in
Resources or Scripts. I was just able now, to generate
them using either the system python or the lyx python.
(bibfiles.lst, bstFiles.lst, clsfiles.lst  styfiles.lst)
But I seem to remember a couple of other .lst files in
Resources, packages.lst and textclass.lst, now missing.

Regards,
Stephen





Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Russell Davie
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:26:48 -0400
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Myriam Abramson wrote:
  The Framesubtitle feature of
  beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
 
 Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 
 can enter a frame subtitle by putting \framesubtitle{blah blah blah} in 
 ERT as the first thing in the frame title.
 
 /Paul
 

beamer does exist in Linux and in Debian is packaged as latex-beamer.
The package inserts the beamer.layout where lyx expects to see it, into 
/usr/share/lyx/layouts/ 
Yesterday I compiled Lyx1.4.2 and installed into a different directory 
(/usr/local/share/lyx1.4.2) and found I couldn't load the beamer document class.
The beamer.layout was not where lyx1.4.2 could find it, in this case 
/usr/local/share/lyx1.4.2/layouts.
Although Tools  TeX information could see it, I still could not get a beamer 
document class via Document  Settings  Document Class. 
Checking the source tarball for beamer.layout, it was absent from the source 
directory for layouts which is lyx1.4.2/lib/layouts.
I concluded beamer.layout does not come with the Lyx1.4.2 source, so I copied 
beamer.layout to the new directory and after reconfigure it worked!

HTH

- Russell


LyX with JabRef

2006-07-16 Thread Denis Chung
Hello,

I would be grateful for any help on how to push citations from JabRef into LyX, 
if that's possible. I'm using LyX 1.4.1 for Windows, and just installed JabRef 
2.0.1. I get an error msg about lyxpipe not working when trying to push the 
citations.

Many thanks on this...
Denis

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Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 21:00 schrieb David Halpern:
 Georg,
 I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.

Then that looks like a general bug in the windows version. Can other 
windows users confirm this?


Georg



Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:26 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
 Myriam Abramson wrote:
  The Framesubtitle feature of
  beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
 
 Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 

Yes, it does. Maybe the windows installer includes an outdated 
beamer.layout?


Georg



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:31 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
 Hi all,
 
 First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
 installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
 
 I went into Tools-Preferences ...-Converters, and the LaTeX-PDF 
 (pdflatex) converter was gone.  In its place was a LaTeX (pdflatex)-PDF 
 (pdflatex) converter, which apparently was not getting the job done.  I 
 assume this change occurred when I installed 1.4.2.  Has anyone else 
 tripped over this?

That converter is (or should be) actually the same: the pdflatex.exe 
compiler. Does Export-PDF (pdflatex) still exist?


Georg



Re: Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)

2006-07-16 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some
 useful tips on.

I think it would be enough for a start to reorder the FAQ to some more useful 
categories, as it is the most important entry point. Unsorted and Unsorted 
1 is not really transparent. And we should try to link from the FAQ 
questions to the more detailed pages where appropriate.

Also, people should begin to point to the FAQ in the user-lists, so that it 
becomes more popular, and of course add content.

Jürgen


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Sven Schreiber
Georg Baum schrieb:
 Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 21:00 schrieb David Halpern:
 Georg,
 I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.
 
 Then that looks like a general bug in the windows version. Can other 
 windows users confirm this?
 
 
 Georg
 

No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
rights, and I have a full python on the system.
-sven


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.

Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?

David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do? 
Do you have a full python?


Georg



printing multiple 3x5 cards on a single piece of A4

2006-07-16 Thread Pete Phillips
Hi

I have a lyx template which I use for printing onto 3x5 index cards (for
GTD stuff).

I have been asked if it is possible to print 4 of the index cards on a
single piece of A4 so that the cards can then be cut up with a guillotine.

I have tried using psnup to postprocess an exported PS file, but it
appears to want to shrink the 3x5 cards. I tried using the '-W3in -H5in'
flags to psnup but no joy - instead f getting 4 full size 3x5 cards on
the a4, I had shrunken cards!

Any ideas, pointers etc appreciated.

Many thanks,
Pete


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Sven Schreiber
Georg Baum schrieb:
 Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.
 
 Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
 information-rescan?


I don't know. First of all, I get no feedback after clicking rescan if
it is finished. Then, I don't know where nowadays the lst-files are
located -- I think I would find them in a 1.3 setup...

What are the exact symptoms we are looking for anyway? Maybe I would
have the problem when doing stuff I don't usually do.

-sven



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Ed Gatzke

Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!

My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.  From a wiki:
Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 



Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Hi all,
 
 First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
 installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
 

I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 

C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.




Chapter* not to occur in TOC

2006-07-16 Thread Kai Johannes Keller
Hi,

I'm using lyx-1.4.1 for writing my diploma-thesis in the
amsbook-documentclass. I appreciate very much the new subtopics within
the menues, especially in document-preferences. Now I can see exacly
what will be in my ToC and what will not.

Unfotunately though, I cannot change the Chapter* (and other
*-environments) option to no without loosing also the
no-star-environments in the ToC.

Is there a way to tell LyX / LaTeX not to show the *-environments in
ToC?

I wonder why they show up at all, cause I thought not showing up should
be the LaTeX-default...

Any help's appreciated, thanks

Regards

-Kai-





The well known *inputenc* problem - what is left from D. Knuths Idea?

2006-07-16 Thread Heiko Schröder
Dear list, 

browsing down the recent mails of the archive, I found that a lot of users 
found themselves vaced to that disgusting problem which occurs with the 
*inputenc* package, although it sureley has nothing to do with the package 
itself. Writing a single German diphtong goes well with LyX. But if you load 
the same TeX-File in vim 7.0, substitute that letter with an ASCII-sign, save 
the file and open again with vim to get the old German letter back, then the 
latex-dance failes with that annyoing problem, most of you know. 

I did not find any solution in the list up to now. But what is much more 
important to say: D. Knuths idea was that it should be able to translate 
LaTeX-files even in 100 years. I wonder what is left from that splendid idea. 

I am working with LyX since 1997 and it is not only good any more, it is 
splendid software. But what about the people who need a better editor (since 
LyX is much more) like vim? The main aim of LaTeX was IMHO that the author 
can focus on his work. The amount of time which is saved in contrast to 
wordprocessors now comes *much* more back for the search of the solution of 
that *inputenc* problem which is hardly possible to explain since the two 
TeX-Files written by vim and exported by LyX are identical. 

If you have any comments or ideas, thanks a lot
Heiko

-- 
Heiko Schröder
Praha, Ceska Republika
http://www.od.shuttle.de/evb-1


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread David Halpern

On 7/16/06, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.

Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX
information-rescan?

David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do?
Do you have a full python?



Georg,
yes I installed (the small installer) with admin rights.  I don't have  this
problem with lyx 1.3.7. I am not sure whether I have the full python. I have
version 2.4 which I must have installed together with lyx 1.3.7.

David



Georg





Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:

No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
rights, and I have a full python on the system.


Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?


David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do? 
Do you have a full python?



Georg





No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.

Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.
But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again. The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).

I've also noticed the Latex-Html converter is no longer listed
under Preferences/converters; it used to show htlatex. Nor does
it detect hevea.exe even with htlatex disabled. I know this is
a different kettle of fish, but I though it might point to the
configure.py or some .py script not working. But if htlatex is
present, then configure.py finds it (yes) and I see it appear
in lyxrc.defaults also for what it's worth. I enclose a before
picture of Tex Information. After doctoring it, it looks normal.
What the two situations have in common is that the python scripts
seem to work, but their outputs do not later appear as expected.
Other aspects of the installation seem to work quite well.

Regards,
Stephen







Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread David Halpern

On 7/16/06, Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Georg Baum wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
 first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
 to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
 seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
 rights, and I have a full python on the system.

 Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX
 information-rescan?

 David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you
do?
 Do you have a full python?


 Georg




No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a
the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.

Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.
But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again. The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).

I've also noticed the Latex-Html converter is no longer listed
under Preferences/converters; it used to show htlatex. Nor does
it detect hevea.exe even with htlatex disabled. I know this is
a different kettle of fish, but I though it might point to the
configure.py or some .py script not working. But if htlatex is
present, then configure.py finds it (yes) and I see it appear
in lyxrc.defaults also for what it's worth. I enclose a before
picture of Tex Information. After doctoring it, it looks normal.
What the two situations have in common is that the python scripts
seem to work, but their outputs do not later appear as expected.
Other aspects of the installation seem to work quite well.

Regards,
Stephen



Stephen,
Your instructions on TeX information worked. Thanks.
David


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Bo Peng

I can confirm that rescan
1. works for 1.4.2.svn under windows, which uses the shell version of TeXFile.sh
2. works for 1.4.3svn under linux, which uses the python version
3. does not work for 1.4.2 under windows, which uses the python version.

It looks like a windows problem since 1.4.3svn is basically 1.4.2 right now.

Bo


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Bo Peng

On 7/16/06, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can confirm that rescan
1. works for 1.4.2.svn under windows, which uses the shell version of TeXFile.sh
2. works for 1.4.3svn under linux, which uses the python version
3. does not work for 1.4.2 under windows, which uses the python version.


and rescan in 1.4.2 works well under linux.

Bo


Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

2006-07-16 Thread Roy Schestowitz

___/ On Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:16:12 BST, [ Rich Shepard ] wrote : \___


On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...



It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the difference
between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when pronouncing LyX
compared to eg licks.


  More like leeks, eh?



I have always thought it was pronounced leek, as in latek.
Other  people whom I speak to pronounced it leeks. Perhaps
my  inclination  is  a borrowed habit from  the  friend  who
introduced  me to LyX back in 2001. Either way, this reminds
meof   {(Open)SuSE}OR{SUSE}   and   {Linux}OR{GNU/Linux}
controversies,  let  alone  the pronunciation of  Linux  and
SuSE.



Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?


  Ha! Not when you work for yourself and have to rebuild a business.

Rich



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roy  pts/8 Sun Jul 16 11:28 - 11:28  (00:00)



Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:26 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Myriam Abramson wrote:

The Framesubtitle feature of
beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 


Yes, it does. Maybe the windows installer includes an outdated 
beamer.layout?



Georg




I do not think the Windows installer has a Beamer layout at all.  (Is 
there not some issue with licensing?)  I use the one that Till Tantau 
ships with Beamer.


At any rate, the FrameSubtitle environment does in fact exist (even in 
Windows); you just have to scroll down the environment list quite a ways 
to find it.  (Myriam:  it's just above Institute, if that helps.)  I 
never put subtitles on frames, so I never bothered to look for it.


I think there's a variant of the layout file floating around from 
somewhere; I seem to (vaguely) recall seeing it mentioned on the list. 
I can only vouch for the one that comes with Beamer (version 1.16).


Sorry, my bad.

/Paul




Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:31 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Hi all,

First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).


I went into Tools-Preferences ...-Converters, and the LaTeX-PDF 
(pdflatex) converter was gone.  In its place was a LaTeX (pdflatex)-PDF 
(pdflatex) converter, which apparently was not getting the job done.  I 
assume this change occurred when I installed 1.4.2.  Has anyone else 
tripped over this?


That converter is (or should be) actually the same: the pdflatex.exe 
compiler. Does Export-PDF (pdflatex) still exist?



Georg




No in 1.4.1, yes in 1.4.2.  In other words, after 1.4.2 installed (and 
changed the preferences file), it could view/export PDF (pdflatex) but 
1.4.1 could not.  Since LyX to LaTeX conversion is built in (not set 
through preferences), I assume this means that 1.4.2 knows how to 
convert LyX to the new LaTeX (pdflatex) format and 1.4.1 does not.


It's not a huge problem.  It's not a problem at all if you are either a 
trusting and soul and replace 1.4.1 with 1.4.2, or conservative and do 
not upgrade.  It's only an issue for the semi-brave, like me, who 
install the new version but keep the old one.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:
Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?



Georg,

I'm not Sven :-) but I installed 1.4.2 (Joost's installer) and (a) it 
found all the LaTeX stuff during the initial installation and (b) the 
.lst files do get regenerated with a rescan.  Note that I had the .lst 
files left over from 1.4.1, but based on the file dates it appears that 
1.4.2's installer rewrote them.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin
(Disclaimer:  what follows below was done on my laptop, which we've 
established was manufactured in an alternative dimension)


Steve Harris wrote:
No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.


Not only does it work for me, but I hid the bstFiles.lst file (by 
renaming it), started LyX 1.4.2, went to Tools-TeX Information-BibTeX 
styles, and bstFiles.lst was reconstituted automagically (without my 
having to click Rescan).  I did this about three times to convince 
myself that the gods were not playing with me.  (If they were, they were 
unusually single-minded about it.)


Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.


Same here.


But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again.


Same here.


The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).


Works for me (on the laptop -- haven't tried any other machines).

Since Bo also says it does not work (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only Windows user for whom it does work), perhaps we should be looking 
for environmental similarities/differences.


/Paul



Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:




The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...

I suspect that the sound snippet where Linus Torvalds pronounces linux 
helped promote linux quite a bit...


Not to mention settling more than a few arguments -- as the developer 
and benevolent god of Linux, he gets the last word on how it's 
pronounced.  I suppose Matthias Ettrich would be the official arbiter of 
pronunciation here?  (And, by the way, you don't want to know how we 
Americans pronounce Matthias.)


It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the 
difference between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when 
pronouncing LyX compared to eg licks.


Some of us can.  We just can't reproduce it.  Anyway, the official 
American policy on language is (a) pronounce it any way we damned well 
please and then (b) tell you that you're pronouncing it wrong, even if 
the word comes from your native language.  :-)  (In the case of the 
Brits, we will also take time to point out that they spell a lot of 
words incorrectly, such as programme.)




[* ] The advantage with a long vacation is that first you can go away 
with your significant other and then you can also get some playtime on 
your own. In a few days I'll be off to see Vienna and Innsbruck in 
Austria :-)


Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?

;-)


Three months (college professor), although I only have one month left.  ;-)

/Paul



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Ed Gatzke wrote:

Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!


Another thing to add to the mystery of alt-F4.


My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.


Works out of the box for me.


 From a wiki:

Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 


That's slightly dated. LyX 1.4.2 (the small installer) installs them 
automatically in the latextools folder under the LyX root folder.  Do 
you not have them there?


First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).




I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 


C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.


Actually, for this problem at least it suffices to add back the 
LaTeX-PDF (pdflatex) converter.  So far, that's the only 
incompatibility I've seen introduced in the preference file, and I'm 
able to run them side-by-side.  Of course, I haven't reconfigured 1.4.2 
since the initial installation, so I don't know if a reconfigure will 
once again vaporize the LaTeX-PDF (pdflatex) conversion path.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Georg Baum wrote:
Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools-TeX 
information-rescan?



Georg,

I'm not Sven :-) but I installed 1.4.2 (Joost's installer) and (a) it 
found all the LaTeX stuff during the initial installation and (b) the 
.lst files do get regenerated with a rescan.  Note that I had the .lst 
files left over from 1.4.1, but based on the file dates it appears that 
1.4.2's installer rewrote them.


/Paul




If Lyx is open, Tex Information displays properly since I've fixed it.

I navigated to Resources and C:\~\Resources ren *.lst *.bak

If LyX is still open you can display Tex Information again.

But, if you close LyX and re-open after renaming the *lst to *.bak
Tex Information does not display. Nor does Rescan rebuild the *.lst
so that Tex Information displays properly.

In my case Rescan only reads the .lst files if they are present.
I think that is why it worked for you, because you retained them.
Rescan is supposed to take several seconds because it searches \texmf.

After seeing that Rescan still doesn't work, I renamed the
*.bak to *.lst, and clicked on Rescan which then worked with the
*.lst files once again available to be read in Resources. But
Rescan itself still doesn't work, it should take several seconds
to produce a result as it searches texmf, not return almost at
once which it did after I moved the .lst files from ~\sripts
to Resources, or renamed the .lst files already in Resources.

I think one way to test the Rescan is actually working to
rename the .lst files temporarily. Then open LyX and see if
Tex Information appears. If it doesn't, try Rescan, which is
supposed to build Tex Information again. I don't think it will.

Regards,
Stephen


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
(Disclaimer:  what follows below was done on my laptop, which we've 
established was manufactured in an alternative dimension)




Is this one of those farin laptops from the Far East? I have heard
that the North Koreans have infiltrated the Taiwan computer industry
and have inserted top secret Many Worlds modules disguised to look
like L2 cache for testing purposes; a plan for Many Worlds dominion!


Steve Harris wrote:
No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run python TeXFiles.py in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.


Not only does it work for me, but I hid the bstFiles.lst file (by 
renaming it), started LyX 1.4.2, went to Tools-TeX Information-BibTeX 
styles, and bstFiles.lst was reconstituted automagically (without my 
having to click Rescan).  I did this about three times to convince 
myself that the gods were not playing with me.  (If they were, they were 
unusually single-minded about it.)




I could hardly believe this and even came up with the renaming scheme
for testing independently which is already written in another post.
I can remember when TeX Information was not automatic. The first time
you opened it up it did the initial scan then. I suggest buying a 
lottery ticket. Just don't forget who gave you the idea ;-)



Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke python texfiles.py it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.


Same here.


But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again.


Same here.


The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
python texfiles.py but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).


Works for me (on the laptop -- haven't tried any other machines).



McCarthy says the laptop is under suspicion of being a pinko machine :-)

Since Bo also says it does not work (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only Windows user for whom it does work), perhaps we should be looking 
for environmental similarities/differences.


/Paul




Aha! I put LyX and and bin and resources in the front of Path.
Uninstalled LyX and re-installed. Deleted both shell and python.
Tried rescan and it worked.

I uninstalled Lyx again and re-installed. Tex Info didn't work.
I deleted shell and it didn't work. I restored shell and deleted
python and lo and behold Tex Information worked like in the good
old days. The screen stayed blank for a few seconds but I could
hear the hard drive working. Then it opened up to display Tex
Information; I didn't have to run Rescan starting from a
blank Tex Info screen. The first time clicking Tex Info did it.

I tested Rescan, somewhat. I think it was working because I
couldn't click on close for several seconds and close it.
That is how it used to be. Then I restored python from the
Recycler. Rescan does not appear to work then as clicking
on the close button immediately closes Rescan instead of
their being a delay until Rescan finishes processing.

I guess that doesn't explain why you having the Python
subdir under LyX works ok, but I have to delete that
subdir before Tex Information works right. Still seems
like an environmental difference but it is narrowed down.
Using the system Python2.4 seems to work ok. One odd
thing is that I no longer have any .lst files in
Resources or Scripts. I was just able now, to generate
them using either the system python or the lyx python.
(bibfiles.lst, bstFiles.lst, clsfiles.lst  styfiles.lst)
But I seem to remember a couple of other .lst files in
Resources, packages.lst and textclass.lst, now missing.

Regards,
Stephen





Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Russell Davie
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:26:48 -0400
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Myriam Abramson wrote:
  The Framesubtitle feature of
  beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
 
 Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 
 can enter a frame subtitle by putting \framesubtitle{blah blah blah} in 
 ERT as the first thing in the frame title.
 
 /Paul
 

beamer does exist in Linux and in Debian is packaged as latex-beamer.
The package inserts the beamer.layout where lyx expects to see it, into 
/usr/share/lyx/layouts/ 
Yesterday I compiled Lyx1.4.2 and installed into a different directory 
(/usr/local/share/lyx1.4.2) and found I couldn't load the beamer document class.
The beamer.layout was not where lyx1.4.2 could find it, in this case 
/usr/local/share/lyx1.4.2/layouts.
Although Tools  TeX information could see it, I still could not get a beamer 
document class via Document  Settings  Document Class. 
Checking the source tarball for beamer.layout, it was absent from the source 
directory for layouts which is lyx1.4.2/lib/layouts.
I concluded beamer.layout does not come with the Lyx1.4.2 source, so I copied 
beamer.layout to the new directory and after reconfigure it worked!

HTH

- Russell


LyX with JabRef

2006-07-16 Thread Denis Chung
Hello,

I would be grateful for any help on how to push citations from JabRef into LyX, 
if that's possible. I'm using LyX 1.4.1 for Windows, and just installed JabRef 
2.0.1. I get an error msg about lyxpipe not working when trying to push the 
citations.

Many thanks on this...
Denis

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Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 21:00 schrieb David Halpern:
> Georg,
> I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.

Then that looks like a general bug in the windows version. Can other 
windows users confirm this?


Georg



Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:26 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
> Myriam Abramson wrote:
> > The Framesubtitle feature of
> > beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
> 
> Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 

Yes, it does. Maybe the windows installer includes an outdated 
beamer.layout?


Georg



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:31 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:
> Hi all,
> 
> First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
> 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
> installing it, I lost View->PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
> 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
> 
> I went into Tools->Preferences ...->Converters, and the LaTeX->PDF 
> (pdflatex) converter was gone.  In its place was a LaTeX (pdflatex)->PDF 
> (pdflatex) converter, which apparently was not getting the job done.  I 
> assume this change occurred when I installed 1.4.2.  Has anyone else 
> tripped over this?

That converter is (or should be) actually the same: the pdflatex.exe 
compiler. Does Export->PDF (pdflatex) still exist?


Georg



Re: Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)

2006-07-16 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some
> useful tips on.

I think it would be enough for a start to reorder the FAQ to some more useful 
categories, as it is the most important entry point. "Unsorted" and "Unsorted 
1" is not really transparent. And we should try to link from the FAQ 
questions to the more detailed pages where appropriate.

Also, people should begin to point to the FAQ in the user-lists, so that it 
becomes more popular, and of course add content.

Jürgen


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Sven Schreiber
Georg Baum schrieb:
> Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 21:00 schrieb David Halpern:
>> Georg,
>> I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.
> 
> Then that looks like a general bug in the windows version. Can other 
> windows users confirm this?
> 
> 
> Georg
> 

No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
rights, and I have a full python on the system.
-sven


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
> No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
> first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
> to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
> seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
> rights, and I have a full python on the system.

Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools->TeX 
information->rescan?

David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do? 
Do you have a full python?


Georg



printing multiple 3x5 cards on a single piece of A4

2006-07-16 Thread Pete Phillips
Hi

I have a lyx template which I use for printing onto 3x5 index cards (for
GTD stuff).

I have been asked if it is possible to print 4 of the index cards on a
single piece of A4 so that the cards can then be cut up with a guillotine.

I have tried using psnup to postprocess an exported PS file, but it
appears to want to shrink the 3x5 cards. I tried using the '-W3in -H5in'
flags to psnup but no joy - instead f getting 4 full size 3x5 cards on
the a4, I had shrunken cards!

Any ideas, pointers etc appreciated.

Many thanks,
Pete


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Sven Schreiber
Georg Baum schrieb:
> Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
>> No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
>> first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
>> to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
>> seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
>> rights, and I have a full python on the system.
> 
> Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools->TeX 
> information->rescan?


I don't know. First of all, I get no feedback after clicking rescan if
it is finished. Then, I don't know where nowadays the lst-files are
located -- I think I would find them in a 1.3 setup...

What are the exact symptoms we are looking for anyway? Maybe I would
have the problem when doing stuff I don't usually do.

-sven



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Ed Gatzke
>
Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!

My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.  From a wiki:
>Besides the LaTeX-package "preview" you need these two files in LyX's
>installation subfolder "\bin": libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 



Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
> 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
> installing it, I lost View->PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
> 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
> 

I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 

C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.




Chapter* not to occur in TOC

2006-07-16 Thread Kai Johannes Keller
Hi,

I'm using lyx-1.4.1 for writing my diploma-thesis in the
amsbook-documentclass. I appreciate very much the new subtopics within
the menues, especially in document->preferences. Now I can see exacly
what will be in my ToC and what will not.

Unfotunately though, I cannot change the Chapter* (and other
*-environments) option to "no" without loosing also the
no-star-environments in the ToC.

Is there a way to tell LyX / LaTeX not to show the *-environments in
ToC?

I wonder why they show up at all, cause I thought not showing up should
be the LaTeX-default...

Any help's appreciated, thanks

Regards

-Kai-





The well known *inputenc* problem - what is left from D. Knuths Idea?

2006-07-16 Thread Heiko Schröder
Dear list, 

browsing down the recent mails of the archive, I found that a lot of users 
found themselves vaced to that disgusting problem which occurs with the 
*inputenc* package, although it sureley has nothing to do with the package 
itself. Writing a single German diphtong goes well with LyX. But if you load 
the same TeX-File in vim 7.0, substitute that letter with an ASCII-sign, save 
the file and open again with vim to get the old German letter back, then the 
latex-dance failes with that annyoing problem, most of you know. 

I did not find any solution in the list up to now. But what is much more 
important to say: D. Knuths idea was that it should be able to translate 
LaTeX-files even in 100 years. I wonder what is left from that splendid idea. 

I am working with LyX since 1997 and it is not only good any more, it is 
splendid software. But what about the people who need a better editor (since 
LyX is much more) like vim? The main aim of LaTeX was IMHO that the author 
can focus on his work. The amount of time which is saved in contrast to 
wordprocessors now comes *much* more back for the search of the solution of 
that *inputenc* problem which is hardly possible to explain since the two 
TeX-Files written by vim and exported by LyX are identical. 

If you have any comments or ideas, thanks a lot
Heiko

-- 
Heiko Schröder
Praha, Ceska Republika
http://www.od.shuttle.de/evb-1


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread David Halpern

On 7/16/06, Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
> No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
> first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
> to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
> seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
> rights, and I have a full python on the system.

Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools->TeX
information->rescan?

David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do?
Do you have a full python?



Georg,
yes I installed (the small installer) with admin rights.  I don't have  this
problem with lyx 1.3.7. I am not sure whether I have the full python. I have
version 2.4 which I must have installed together with lyx 1.3.7.

David



Georg





Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:

No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
rights, and I have a full python on the system.


Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools->TeX 
information->rescan?


David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you do? 
Do you have a full python?



Georg





No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run "python TeXFiles.py" in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.

Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke "python texfiles.py" it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.
But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again. The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
"python texfiles.py" but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).

I've also noticed the Latex->Html converter is no longer listed
under Preferences/converters; it used to show htlatex. Nor does
it detect hevea.exe even with htlatex disabled. I know this is
a different kettle of fish, but I though it might point to the
configure.py or some .py script not working. But if htlatex is
present, then configure.py finds it (yes) and I see it appear
in lyxrc.defaults also for what it's worth. I enclose a before
picture of Tex Information. After doctoring it, it looks normal.
What the two situations have in common is that the python scripts
seem to work, but their outputs do not later appear as expected.
Other aspects of the installation seem to work quite well.

Regards,
Stephen







Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread David Halpern

On 7/16/06, Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Georg Baum wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:16 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
>> No. I upgraded to 1.4.2 with the smaller installer (uninstalled 1.4.1
>> first) w/o any problems so far. During the installation I was prompted
>> to have some latex/miktex stuff automatically installed, and that also
>> seems to have worked. In case that matters: I installed with admin
>> rights, and I have a full python on the system.
>
> Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools->TeX
> information->rescan?
>
> David, did you install with admin rights? If not, does it work if you
do?
> Do you have a full python?
>
>
> Georg
>
>


No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work
right. I have to run "python TeXFiles.py" in order to generate a
the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.

Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke "python texfiles.py" it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.
But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again. The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
"python texfiles.py" but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).

I've also noticed the Latex->Html converter is no longer listed
under Preferences/converters; it used to show htlatex. Nor does
it detect hevea.exe even with htlatex disabled. I know this is
a different kettle of fish, but I though it might point to the
configure.py or some .py script not working. But if htlatex is
present, then configure.py finds it (yes) and I see it appear
in lyxrc.defaults also for what it's worth. I enclose a before
picture of Tex Information. After doctoring it, it looks normal.
What the two situations have in common is that the python scripts
seem to work, but their outputs do not later appear as expected.
Other aspects of the installation seem to work quite well.

Regards,
Stephen



Stephen,
Your instructions on TeX information worked. Thanks.
David


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Bo Peng

I can confirm that rescan
1. works for 1.4.2.svn under windows, which uses the shell version of TeXFile.sh
2. works for 1.4.3svn under linux, which uses the python version
3. does not work for 1.4.2 under windows, which uses the python version.

It looks like a windows problem since 1.4.3svn is basically 1.4.2 right now.

Bo


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Bo Peng

On 7/16/06, Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I can confirm that rescan
1. works for 1.4.2.svn under windows, which uses the shell version of TeXFile.sh
2. works for 1.4.3svn under linux, which uses the python version
3. does not work for 1.4.2 under windows, which uses the python version.


and rescan in 1.4.2 works well under linux.

Bo


Re: Prouncing "LyX" - help with sound file

2006-07-16 Thread Roy Schestowitz

___/ On Sun 16 Jul 2006 01:16:12 BST, [ Rich Shepard ] wrote : \___


On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...



It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the difference
between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when pronouncing "LyX"
compared to eg "licks".


  More like "leeks," eh?



I have always thought it was pronounced leek, as in "latek".
Other  people whom I speak to pronounced it "leeks". Perhaps
my  inclination  is  a borrowed habit from  the  friend  who
introduced  me to LyX back in 2001. Either way, this reminds
meof   {(Open)SuSE}OR{SUSE}   and   {Linux}OR{GNU/Linux}
controversies,  let  alone  the pronunciation of  Linux  and
SuSE.



Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?


  Ha! Not when you work for yourself and have to rebuild a business.

Rich



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Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:26 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Myriam Abramson wrote:

The Framesubtitle feature of
beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 


Yes, it does. Maybe the windows installer includes an outdated 
beamer.layout?



Georg




I do not think the Windows installer has a Beamer layout at all.  (Is 
there not some issue with licensing?)  I use the one that Till Tantau 
ships with Beamer.


At any rate, the FrameSubtitle environment does in fact exist (even in 
Windows); you just have to scroll down the environment list quite a ways 
to find it.  (Myriam:  it's just above "Institute", if that helps.)  I 
never put subtitles on frames, so I never bothered to look for it.


I think there's a variant of the layout file floating around from 
somewhere; I seem to (vaguely) recall seeing it mentioned on the list. 
I can only vouch for the one that comes with Beamer (version 1.16).


Sorry, my bad.

/Paul




Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:

Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 01:31 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Hi all,

First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
installing it, I lost View->PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).


I went into Tools->Preferences ...->Converters, and the LaTeX->PDF 
(pdflatex) converter was gone.  In its place was a LaTeX (pdflatex)->PDF 
(pdflatex) converter, which apparently was not getting the job done.  I 
assume this change occurred when I installed 1.4.2.  Has anyone else 
tripped over this?


That converter is (or should be) actually the same: the pdflatex.exe 
compiler. Does Export->PDF (pdflatex) still exist?



Georg




No in 1.4.1, yes in 1.4.2.  In other words, after 1.4.2 installed (and 
changed the preferences file), it could view/export PDF (pdflatex) but 
1.4.1 could not.  Since LyX to LaTeX conversion is built in (not set 
through preferences), I assume this means that 1.4.2 knows how to 
convert LyX to the new LaTeX (pdflatex) format and 1.4.1 does not.


It's not a huge problem.  It's not a problem at all if you are either a 
trusting and soul and replace 1.4.1 with 1.4.2, or conservative and do 
not upgrade.  It's only an issue for the semi-brave, like me, who 
install the new version but keep the old one.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Georg Baum wrote:
Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools->TeX 
information->rescan?



Georg,

I'm not Sven :-) but I installed 1.4.2 (Joost's installer) and (a) it 
found all the LaTeX stuff during the initial installation and (b) the 
.lst files do get regenerated with a rescan.  Note that I had the .lst 
files left over from 1.4.1, but based on the file dates it appears that 
1.4.2's installer rewrote them.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin
(Disclaimer:  what follows below was done on my laptop, which we've 
established was manufactured in an alternative dimension)


Steve Harris wrote:
No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run "python TeXFiles.py" in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.


Not only does it work for me, but I hid the bstFiles.lst file (by 
renaming it), started LyX 1.4.2, went to Tools->TeX Information->BibTeX 
styles, and bstFiles.lst was reconstituted automagically (without my 
having to click Rescan).  I did this about three times to convince 
myself that the gods were not playing with me.  (If they were, they were 
unusually single-minded about it.)


Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke "python texfiles.py" it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.


Same here.


But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again.


Same here.


The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
"python texfiles.py" but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).


Works for me (on the laptop -- haven't tried any other machines).

Since Bo also says it does not work (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only Windows user for whom it does work), perhaps we should be looking 
for environmental similarities/differences.


/Paul



Re: Prouncing "LyX" - help with sound file

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:




The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...

I suspect that the sound snippet where Linus Torvalds pronounces "linux" 
helped promote linux quite a bit...


Not to mention settling more than a few arguments -- as the developer 
and benevolent god of Linux, he gets the last word on how it's 
pronounced.  I suppose Matthias Ettrich would be the official arbiter of 
pronunciation here?  (And, by the way, you don't want to know how we 
Americans pronounce "Matthias".)


It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the 
difference between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when 
pronouncing "LyX" compared to eg "licks".


Some of us can.  We just can't reproduce it.  Anyway, the official 
American policy on language is (a) pronounce it any way we damned well 
please and then (b) tell you that you're pronouncing it wrong, even if 
the word comes from your native language.  :-)  (In the case of the 
Brits, we will also take time to point out that they spell a lot of 
words incorrectly, such as "programme".)




[* ] The advantage with a long vacation is that first you can go away 
with your significant other and then you can also get some playtime on 
your own. In a few days I'll be off to see Vienna and Innsbruck in 
Austria :-)


Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?

;-)


Three months (college professor), although I only have one month left.  ;-)

/Paul



Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Ed Gatzke wrote:

Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!


Another thing to add to the "mystery of alt-F4".


My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.


Works out of the box for me.


 From a wiki:

Besides the LaTeX-package "preview" you need these two files in LyX's
installation subfolder "\bin": libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 


That's slightly dated. LyX 1.4.2 (the small installer) installs them 
automatically in the "latextools" folder under the LyX root folder.  Do 
you not have them there?


First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
installing it, I lost View->PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).




I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 


C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.


Actually, for this problem at least it suffices to add back the 
LaTeX->PDF (pdflatex) converter.  So far, that's the only 
incompatibility I've seen introduced in the preference file, and I'm 
able to run them side-by-side.  Of course, I haven't reconfigured 1.4.2 
since the initial installation, so I don't know if a reconfigure will 
once again vaporize the LaTeX->PDF (pdflatex) conversion path.


/Paul



Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Georg Baum wrote:
Sven, do the *.lst files get regenerated if you do Tools->TeX 
information->rescan?



Georg,

I'm not Sven :-) but I installed 1.4.2 (Joost's installer) and (a) it 
found all the LaTeX stuff during the initial installation and (b) the 
.lst files do get regenerated with a rescan.  Note that I had the .lst 
files left over from 1.4.1, but based on the file dates it appears that 
1.4.2's installer rewrote them.


/Paul




If Lyx is open, Tex Information displays properly since I've fixed it.

I navigated to Resources and C:>\~\Resources ren *.lst *.bak

If LyX is still open you can display Tex Information again.

But, if you close LyX and re-open after renaming the *lst to *.bak
Tex Information does not display. Nor does Rescan rebuild the *.lst
so that Tex Information displays properly.

In my case Rescan only reads the .lst files if they are present.
I think that is why it worked for you, because you retained them.
Rescan is supposed to take several seconds because it searches \texmf.

After seeing that Rescan still doesn't work, I renamed the
*.bak to *.lst, and clicked on Rescan which then worked with the
*.lst files once again available to be read in Resources. But
Rescan itself still doesn't work, it should take several seconds
to produce a result as it searches texmf, not return almost at
once which it did after I moved the .lst files from ~\sripts
to Resources, or renamed the .lst files already in Resources.

I think one way to test the Rescan is actually working to
rename the .lst files temporarily. Then open LyX and see if
Tex Information appears. If it doesn't, try Rescan, which is
supposed to build Tex Information again. I don't think it will.

Regards,
Stephen


Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Harris

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
(Disclaimer:  what follows below was done on my laptop, which we've 
established was manufactured in an alternative dimension)




Is this one of those farin laptops from the Far East? I have heard
that the North Koreans have infiltrated the Taiwan computer industry
and have inserted top secret Many Worlds modules disguised to look
like L2 cache for testing purposes; a plan for Many Worlds dominion!


Steve Harris wrote:
No, Tex Information does not work. The Rescan button does not work 
right. I have to run "python TeXFiles.py" in order to generate a

the .lst files. Rescan does not work at this point. After you copy
the .lst files to ~Resources, then Rescan registers the files in
the Resources directory, nearly instantaneously. Rescan does not
search the texmf directory. I've tested this twice.


Not only does it work for me, but I hid the bstFiles.lst file (by 
renaming it), started LyX 1.4.2, went to Tools->TeX Information->BibTeX 
styles, and bstFiles.lst was reconstituted automagically (without my 
having to click Rescan).  I did this about three times to convince 
myself that the gods were not playing with me.  (If they were, they were 
unusually single-minded about it.)




I could hardly believe this and even came up with the renaming scheme
for testing independently which is already written in another post.
I can remember when TeX Information was not automatic. The first time
you opened it up it did the initial scan then. I suggest buying a 
lottery ticket. Just don't forget who gave you the idea ;-)



Python acting on TexFiles.py works right, but the Rescan button
doesn't invoke "python texfiles.py" it only reads from Resources.

I'm not sure that asking if you have a full Python installed is
relevant. I do, and it is in the Path and works with earlier versions.


Same here.


But the installer (small 9mb) still installs Python into my LyX/lyx14
sub-directory and Msys shell tools too. The installer doesn't check
to see if you already have Python and Msys intalled, it just installs
it again.


Same here.


The reason I questioned the relevance is that I thought
LyX ran executables from its own installation directory first, so
that the Python used was the LyX-owned Python, not the full version.

In any event, whatever python is being used, it correctly runs
"python texfiles.py" but that action is not connected to Rescan.
Rescan *only* reads the .lst files *after* they have been created,
from the Resource directory (not even from /scripts where they arise).


Works for me (on the laptop -- haven't tried any other machines).



McCarthy says the laptop is under suspicion of being a pinko machine :-)

Since Bo also says it does not work (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the 
only Windows user for whom it does work), perhaps we should be looking 
for environmental similarities/differences.


/Paul




Aha! I put LyX and and bin and resources in the front of Path.
Uninstalled LyX and re-installed. Deleted both shell and python.
Tried rescan and it worked.

I uninstalled Lyx again and re-installed. Tex Info didn't work.
I deleted shell and it didn't work. I restored shell and deleted
python and lo and behold Tex Information worked like in the good
old days. The screen stayed blank for a few seconds but I could
hear the hard drive working. Then it opened up to display Tex
Information; I didn't have to run Rescan starting from a
blank Tex Info screen. The first time clicking Tex Info did it.

I tested Rescan, somewhat. I think it was working because I
couldn't click on "close" for several seconds and close it.
That is how it used to be. Then I restored python from the
Recycler. Rescan does not appear to work then as clicking
on the "close" button immediately closes Rescan instead of
their being a delay until Rescan finishes processing.

I guess that doesn't explain why you having the Python
subdir under LyX works ok, but I have to delete that
subdir before Tex Information works right. Still seems
like an environmental difference but it is narrowed down.
Using the system Python2.4 seems to work ok. One odd
thing is that I no longer have any .lst files in
Resources or Scripts. I was just able now, to generate
them using either the system python or the lyx python.
(bibfiles.lst, bstFiles.lst, clsfiles.lst & styfiles.lst)
But I seem to remember a couple of other .lst files in
Resources, packages.lst and textclass.lst, now missing.

Regards,
Stephen





Re: beamer.layout on Windows

2006-07-16 Thread Russell Davie
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:26:48 -0400
"Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Myriam Abramson wrote:
> > The Framesubtitle feature of
> > beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
> 
> Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 
> can enter a frame subtitle by putting \framesubtitle{blah blah blah} in 
> ERT as the first thing in the frame title.
> 
> /Paul
> 

beamer does exist in Linux and in Debian is packaged as latex-beamer.
The package inserts the beamer.layout where lyx expects to see it, into 
/usr/share/lyx/layouts/ 
Yesterday I compiled Lyx1.4.2 and installed into a different directory 
(/usr/local/share/lyx1.4.2) and found I couldn't load the beamer document class.
The beamer.layout was not where lyx1.4.2 could find it, in this case 
/usr/local/share/lyx1.4.2/layouts.
Although Tools > TeX information could see it, I still could not get a beamer 
document class via Document > Settings > Document Class. 
Checking the source tarball for beamer.layout, it was absent from the source 
directory for layouts which is lyx1.4.2/lib/layouts.
I concluded beamer.layout does not come with the Lyx1.4.2 source, so I copied 
beamer.layout to the new directory and after "reconfigure" it worked!

HTH

- Russell


LyX with JabRef

2006-07-16 Thread Denis Chung
Hello,

I would be grateful for any help on how to push citations from JabRef into LyX, 
if that's possible. I'm using LyX 1.4.1 for Windows, and just installed JabRef 
2.0.1. I get an error msg about lyxpipe not working when trying to push the 
citations.

Many thanks on this...
Denis

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