Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

2021-10-19 Thread Jack Lyon 

Thanks for the feedback, Ken. I'll see if I can remedy the problem.

You can get around it by including something like the following under 
Document > Settings > Preamble:


\setstocksize{8.5in}{5.5in}

And, as Daniel pointed out, the layouts depend on the Memoir class, so 
you can use other Memoir commands in the document preamble as well.


Best wishes,
Jack Lyon
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On 10/19/2021 11:21 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:
I have found your LyXBook layouts to be very good, and I very much 
appreciate the work you did on them.  The one issue I had, which was 
addressed here by Daniel, is the way it didn't respond to changes in 
the page size using the standard page size settings... when using the 
MiKTek system.


Best Regards,
*Ken*



On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jack Lyon  wrote:

Greetings, all.

I'm the creator of LyXBook, and I'd be happy to answer any
questions you may have about it.

When I first created the LyXBook layouts, I licensed some of them
based on the purchase of my Microsoft Word add-in LyXConverter,
which converts Word documents into LyX documents:

https://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter

However, I'm changing those licenses to be the same as that used
for LyX itself, the GNU General Public License:

https://www.lyx.org/License

That means you can freely use and distribute any of the LyXBook
layouts (including those that are part of LyXConverter) any way
you please. I hope you find them useful.

Thanks to all of you for making LyX such a great piece of software.

Best wishes,
Jack Lyon
The Editorium
http://www.editorium.com



On 10/19/2021 10:29 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:

If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found
out about it:

LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 

So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes
to layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find
this entry:

  * LyXBook  is
a collection of layouts from the Editorium
 designed specifically for
typesetting books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies, and
so on).

*
*

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
> On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> [...]
>>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the
layout, where did
>>> you get it from?
>
> What is the LyXBook class?

As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

2021-10-19 Thread Ken Kopelson 
I have found your LyXBook layouts to be very good, and I very much
appreciate the work you did on them.  The one issue I had, which was
addressed here by Daniel, is the way it didn't respond to changes in the
page size using the standard page size settings... when using the MiKTek
system.

Best Regards,
*Ken*



On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jack Lyon  wrote:

> Greetings, all.
>
> I'm the creator of LyXBook, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you
> may have about it.
>
> When I first created the LyXBook layouts, I licensed some of them based on
> the purchase of my Microsoft Word add-in LyXConverter, which converts Word
> documents into LyX documents:
>
> https://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter
>
> However, I'm changing those licenses to be the same as that used for LyX
> itself, the GNU General Public License:
>
> https://www.lyx.org/License
>
> That means you can freely use and distribute any of the LyXBook layouts
> (including those that are part of LyXConverter) any way you please. I hope
> you find them useful.
>
> Thanks to all of you for making LyX such a great piece of software.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jack Lyon
> The Editorium
> http://www.editorium.com
>
>
>
> On 10/19/2021 10:29 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:
>
> If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found out about
> it:
>
> LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 
>
> So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes to
> layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find this entry:
>
>
>- LyXBook  is a
>collection of layouts from the Editorium  
> designed
>specifically for typesetting books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies,
>and so on).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:
>
>> On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> >
>> > On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
>> >> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> >>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout, where did
>> >>> you get it from?
>> >
>> > What is the LyXBook class?
>>
>> As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.
>>
>> Daniel
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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

2021-10-19 Thread Jack Lyon 

Greetings, all.

I'm the creator of LyXBook, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you 
may have about it.


When I first created the LyXBook layouts, I licensed some of them based 
on the purchase of my Microsoft Word add-in LyXConverter, which converts 
Word documents into LyX documents:


https://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter

However, I'm changing those licenses to be the same as that used for LyX 
itself, the GNU General Public License:


https://www.lyx.org/License

That means you can freely use and distribute any of the LyXBook layouts 
(including those that are part of LyXConverter) any way you please. I 
hope you find them useful.


Thanks to all of you for making LyX such a great piece of software.

Best wishes,
Jack Lyon
The Editorium
http://www.editorium.com



On 10/19/2021 10:29 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:
If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found out 
about it:


LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 

So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes to 
layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find this entry:


  * LyXBook  is a
collection of layouts from the Editorium
 designed specifically for typesetting
books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies, and so on).

*
*

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
> On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> [...]
>>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout,
where did
>>> you get it from?
>
> What is the LyXBook class?

As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

2021-10-19 Thread Ken Kopelson 
If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found out about it:

LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 

So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes to
layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find this entry:


   - LyXBook  is a
   collection of layouts from the Editorium
 designed
   specifically for typesetting books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies,
   and so on).



On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:

> On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
> >> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout, where did
> >>> you get it from?
> >
> > What is the LyXBook class?
>
> As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.
>
> Daniel
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Re: END-OF-FRAME, once again..

2021-10-19 Thread Scott Kostyshak 
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 03:14:48PM +0200, Daniel wrote:
> On 13/10/2021 16:50, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:13:30PM +0200, Daniel wrote:
> > > Something that I thought while using beamer with LyX was that it seems 
> > > that
> > > it would be easier if Frames would not "hang together". I mean: right now,
> > > if you press enter at the end or beginning of a frame, you get a new line
> > > that is extending the same frame. Wouldn't it be easier if you get a new
> > > frame this way and instead would just nest stuff in order to get it onto a
> > > specific frame? So, no need for separators either. There may be issues 
> > > with
> > > this suggestion that I have not thought careful enough about but on the 
> > > face
> > > of it, it seems like a good idea to me and to solve the issues you
> > > mentioned. What do you think?
> > 
> > I think the workflow you're suggesting makes the not-always-true assumption 
> > that the user does not use the "frame" layout for the *content* of the 
> > frame, and only uses nested layouts (e.g., itemize or standard). Did I 
> > understand right?
> 
> Yes. It is not a conservative approach. It suggest to not use the frame
> layout for the content because, if I see it correctly, this can be equally
> achieved by using a nested standard layout. So, why not have just one way of
> doing things. And it seems to me more consistent in that, say, itemized
> lists have to be nested as well within a frame which makes them appear at
> another level than the content of the frame when not nested but they are
> not. Isn't that a bit strange or misleading?
> 
> Instead, everything will have to be nested if it should go on a frame. (Of
> course there must be a lyx2lyx mechanism to transfer old beamer documents to
> the new "nesting-style".)
> 
> The workflow would in the new style would be like this:
> 
> 1. Select the Frame layout to create a new frame.
> 2. Press enter which creates a nested Standard paragraph to add content.
> 3. Press enter twice to un-nest and get a Frame layout which starts a new
> frame.
> 
> Doesn't this appear more simple and intuitive?

It does. I think it is a reasonable proposal. I'm just not sure everyone will 
agree. For example, our own beamer example uses the frame layout for content.

> > What abut making it so that if the user changes the layout to "frame 
> > title", then a *new* frame is started (i.e., LyX realizes "oh this frame 
> > already has a frame title so the user must want a new frame)?
> 
> I still tend to prefer the way I suggested because of its simplicity
> (especially for new users or people who use, say, beamer not frequently)
> unless it has some flaw I missed.

Perhaps we can start by writing some use cases that are currently annoying with 
the current interface. Then we can propose different interfaces to make those 
workflows easier. I think your proposal is a reasonable one, but I'm not sure 
it's the only one. Also, I'm hesitant to start this conversation since I would 
really want to see Jürgen's thoughts and I don't think he has much time these 
days.

The main confusion I see is that I think users would like one key combination 
that always produces a new frame. Currently, the user has to think whether to 
do "Alt + P, return" or "Alt + P, shift + return", depending on what nesting 
level they are currently at. Do you agree this is the main problem that your 
proposal and my proposal were both trying to solve? Is there any other big 
issue with the current workflow?

Scott


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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

2021-10-19 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse 

If you were to look into the Emoji Handbook you'd find that I am
credited with the stethoscope (25 years or so ago).

The arrows are just pointing...

el



On 19/10/2021 13:56, Daniel wrote:

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

--> :-)-O <-- stands for I was joking


Never came across that emoji before.  What is it supposed to picture?

The more common, ;-) works quite well in this case too, I think.

Daniel



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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

2021-10-19 Thread Daniel 

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

--> :-)-O <-- stands for I was joking


Never came across that emoji before. What is it supposed to picture?

The more common, ;-) works quite well in this case too, I think.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

2021-10-19 Thread Daniel 

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:


On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:

On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:

[...]

What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout, where did
you get it from?


What is the LyXBook class?


As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.

Daniel

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