Re: Voice Recognition Accessibility

2022-08-04 Thread Jodin Morey

Thanks Tim,

Being new to the program, I hadn't seen that possibility. Actually, I 
have already created a bunch of Dragon Dictate scripts that generate the 
LaTeX for another program (Tex Studio), so I think I will be able to 
fairly easily port it in that way. Thanks for the idea.  Then there is 
no need to mess with the binding.


On 8/3/2022 10:27 PM, t...@wescottdesign.com wrote:
Consider instead setting up Nuance Dragon Dictate to put LyX into 
LaTeX insertion mode, then translate LaTeX directly.


This will give you everything that LyX can give you, with the benefit 
-- to other users if not immediately to you -- of being useful for any 
tool that supports LaTeX, not least being folks who might light to 
author documents in LaTeX directly.


Quoting Jodin Morey :


Hello Lyx Developers,

My name is Jodin, and I recently graduated with my doctorate in 
mathematics.  I have a disability which requires me to use voice 
recognition to input mathematics into my computer.  For the last 10 
years or so, I have used three pieces of software (on Windows) to 
accomplish this.  However, recently two of these software packages 
(Scientific Notebook and MathTalk) stopped being supported (the 
underlying companies went out of business). As a result, I have been 
looking for some other software I might be able to use.  The voice 
recognition software I use (the primary desktop voice recognition 
software in existence) is Nuance Dragon Dictate. It was recently 
purchased by Microsoft, so it is doubtful that this piece of software 
will become unsupported anytime soon. However, there are no longer 
any off-the-shelf software packages which translate the recognized 
words into math, so I am interested in developing something along 
these lines.  In particular, I thought I might develop something 
around Lyx.


It's unfortunate that the voice technology allowing people with 
disabilities to write mathematics has recently disappeared. I am 
hopeful that Lyx can become the future provider of this capability.


I like Lyx because it is open source, and I wish to avoid relying on 
another piece of software that is profit based, and might go out of 
business someday.  The idea is to create hundreds of scripts in 
Dragon Dictate.  That way, when I say "VarOmega," for example, Dragon 
Dictate will turn my voice into words, recognize the words as a 
Dragon Dictate Script, which can then choose from a pulldown menu on 
Lyx, or just enter the right keystrokes.


The main barrier I face right now (other than the time it will take 
to develop all of the scripts), is that many of the mathematical 
objects in Lyx are not available either through a menubar or 
keystroke.  So my request to the developers would be to add keystroke 
accessibility to as many mathematical objects as possible.  To make 
things easier, these keystrokes do not need to be documented in any 
way.  You needn't add the keystroke information on the user interface 
(for example, when you hover your mouse over the button for the math 
object, or in the help documentation).  The point would not be to 
offer the average user a quick keystroke.  And to that end, the 
keystroke could be very obscure (e.g., Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Meta+K), it 
doesn't need to be simple at all.  Doing this does not limit Dragon 
Dictate's ability to type the keystroke, and simultaneously opens up 
a lot of keystrokes.


Regardless, I will start developing this the voice recognition 
capacity with the keystrokes you currently have available, as I need 
it for my own purposes.  However, I believe developing this more 
comprehensively is an important thing for the disability community.  
And I believe the coding effort required is somewhat minimal.


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Voice Recognition Accessibility

2022-08-03 Thread Jodin Morey

Hello Lyx Developers,

My name is Jodin, and I recently graduated with my doctorate in 
mathematics.  I have a disability which requires me to use voice 
recognition to input mathematics into my computer.  For the last 10 
years or so, I have used three pieces of software (on Windows) to 
accomplish this.  However, recently two of these software packages 
(Scientific Notebook and MathTalk) stopped being supported (the 
underlying companies went out of business). As a result, I have been 
looking for some other software I might be able to use.  The voice 
recognition software I use (the primary desktop voice recognition 
software in existence) is Nuance Dragon Dictate. It was recently 
purchased by Microsoft, so it is doubtful that this piece of software 
will become unsupported anytime soon. However, there are no longer any 
off-the-shelf software packages which translate the recognized words 
into math, so I am interested in developing something along these 
lines.  In particular, I thought I might develop something around Lyx.


It's unfortunate that the voice technology allowing people with 
disabilities to write mathematics has recently disappeared. I am hopeful 
that Lyx can become the future provider of this capability.


I like Lyx because it is open source, and I wish to avoid relying on 
another piece of software that is profit based, and might go out of 
business someday.  The idea is to create hundreds of scripts in Dragon 
Dictate.  That way, when I say "VarOmega," for example, Dragon Dictate 
will turn my voice into words, recognize the words as a Dragon Dictate 
Script, which can then choose from a pulldown menu on Lyx, or just enter 
the right keystrokes.


The main barrier I face right now (other than the time it will take to 
develop all of the scripts), is that many of the mathematical objects in 
Lyx are not available either through a menubar or keystroke.  So my 
request to the developers would be to add keystroke accessibility to as 
many mathematical objects as possible.  To make things easier, these 
keystrokes do not need to be documented in any way.  You needn't add the 
keystroke information on the user interface (for example, when you hover 
your mouse over the button for the math object, or in the help 
documentation).  The point would not be to offer the average user a 
quick keystroke.  And to that end, the keystroke could be very obscure 
(e.g., Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Meta+K), it doesn't need to be simple at all.  
Doing this does not limit Dragon Dictate's ability to type the 
keystroke, and simultaneously opens up a lot of keystrokes.


Regardless, I will start developing this the voice recognition capacity 
with the keystrokes you currently have available, as I need it for my 
own purposes.  However, I believe developing this more comprehensively 
is an important thing for the disability community.  And I believe the 
coding effort required is somewhat minimal.


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