Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Thanks for investigating and (I guess) solving the problem.
Sorry, but I don't know how to compile the source myself. I will wait for
the new LyX release. In the meanwhile I have found a (provisional?)
solution: I converted the bib file so I don't need utf8 anymore.

Peter
PS.: I'm using OS 10.6.8.

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Thanks for investigating and (I guess) solving the problem.
Sorry, but I don't know how to compile the source myself. I will wait for
the new LyX release. In the meanwhile I have found a (provisional?)
solution: I converted the bib file so I don't need utf8 anymore.

Peter
PS.: I'm using OS 10.6.8.

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Thanks for investigating and (I guess) solving the problem.
Sorry, but I don't know how to compile the source myself. I will wait for
the new LyX release. In the meanwhile I have found a (provisional?)
solution: I converted the bib file so I don't need utf8 anymore.

Peter
PS.: I'm using OS 10.6.8.

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Here is the minimal example file.

I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X branch. Maybe 
someone else can.

Peter, which OS are you on?

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[nomnex]

 On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:13:24 +0100
 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
  Here is the minimal example file.
 
 I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X
 branch. Maybe someone else can.
 
 Peter, which OS are you on?
 
 Jürgen

I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the official
outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and once I remove
the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc  Settings 
preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes immediately (LyX
closes). It generates a ABRT (automated bug reporting tool) report.

I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
answer is not relevant.

Regards,
nomnex

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Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

nomnex wrote:
 I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the official
 outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and once I remove
 the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc  Settings 
 preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes immediately (LyX
 closes). It generates a ABRT (automated bug reporting tool) report.

Thanks. Are there any suspicious messages in that report (or on the console, 
if you start LyX from there)? Also, can you export to LaTeX (pdflatex) and 
post the tex file here?

 I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
 a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
 answer is not relevant.

It will help pinpointing the problem. Thanks for investigating.

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
  a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
  answer is not relevant.
 
 It will help pinpointing the problem. Thanks for investigating.

I investigated a bit further and I think this is
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7941

This explains why I do not get the crash: The bug is already fixed in the 
stable branch.

Peter, if you compile the source yourself, you might try out latest branch or 
apply the following patch to your sources:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/40514

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Stephan Witt]

Am 30.12.2011 um 09:13 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Here is the minimal example file.
 
 I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X branch. Maybe 
 someone else can.
 
 Peter, which OS are you on?

I gave it a try on Mac OS X and it didn't crash with LyX trunk.
Terminal output:

Running: pdflatex -synctex=-1  test-utf8-crash.tex  /dev/null
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
...

Stephan

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[nomnex]

 On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:50:57 +0100
 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 nomnex wrote:
  I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the
  official outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and
  once I remove the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc 
  Settings  preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes

snip
 
 Thanks. Are there any suspicious messages in that report (or on the
 console, if you start LyX from there)? Also, can you export to LaTeX
 (pdflatex) and post the tex file here?

Hello, Jürgen. It looks like the problem as been solved. Anyway, for
the information, find below the the shell output of the error msg when
I preview the file to PDF or DVI.

I am not sure if it is related with the OP and the bug, or simply with
my configuration. I open the file. I remove the module convington,
and the command in the preamble. Then, I preview to pdf/dvi.

[mt@nh28d ~]$ lyx  /home/mt/desktop/lyx.log
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Buffer.cpp(1190):   /home/mt/document/lyx/test-utf8-crash.lyx.emergency

lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.
Please read the bug-reporting instructions in 'Help-Introduction' and
send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks! Bye.
Error: LyX crashed!

SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.
Please read the bug-reporting instructions in 'Help-Introduction' and
send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks! Bye.
Aborted (core dumped)
[mt@nh28d ~]$ 

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Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Here is the minimal example file.

I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X branch. Maybe 
someone else can.

Peter, which OS are you on?

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[nomnex]

 On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:13:24 +0100
 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
  Here is the minimal example file.
 
 I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X
 branch. Maybe someone else can.
 
 Peter, which OS are you on?
 
 Jürgen

I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the official
outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and once I remove
the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc  Settings 
preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes immediately (LyX
closes). It generates a ABRT (automated bug reporting tool) report.

I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
answer is not relevant.

Regards,
nomnex

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Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

nomnex wrote:
 I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the official
 outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and once I remove
 the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc  Settings 
 preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes immediately (LyX
 closes). It generates a ABRT (automated bug reporting tool) report.

Thanks. Are there any suspicious messages in that report (or on the console, 
if you start LyX from there)? Also, can you export to LaTeX (pdflatex) and 
post the tex file here?

 I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
 a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
 answer is not relevant.

It will help pinpointing the problem. Thanks for investigating.

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
  a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
  answer is not relevant.
 
 It will help pinpointing the problem. Thanks for investigating.

I investigated a bit further and I think this is
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7941

This explains why I do not get the crash: The bug is already fixed in the 
stable branch.

Peter, if you compile the source yourself, you might try out latest branch or 
apply the following patch to your sources:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/40514

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Stephan Witt]

Am 30.12.2011 um 09:13 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Here is the minimal example file.
 
 I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X branch. Maybe 
 someone else can.
 
 Peter, which OS are you on?

I gave it a try on Mac OS X and it didn't crash with LyX trunk.
Terminal output:

Running: pdflatex -synctex=-1  test-utf8-crash.tex  /dev/null
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
...

Stephan

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[nomnex]

 On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:50:57 +0100
 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 nomnex wrote:
  I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the
  official outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and
  once I remove the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc 
  Settings  preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes

snip
 
 Thanks. Are there any suspicious messages in that report (or on the
 console, if you start LyX from there)? Also, can you export to LaTeX
 (pdflatex) and post the tex file here?

Hello, Jürgen. It looks like the problem as been solved. Anyway, for
the information, find below the the shell output of the error msg when
I preview the file to PDF or DVI.

I am not sure if it is related with the OP and the bug, or simply with
my configuration. I open the file. I remove the module convington,
and the command in the preamble. Then, I preview to pdf/dvi.

[mt@nh28d ~]$ lyx  /home/mt/desktop/lyx.log
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Buffer.cpp(1190):   /home/mt/document/lyx/test-utf8-crash.lyx.emergency

lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.
Please read the bug-reporting instructions in 'Help-Introduction' and
send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks! Bye.
Error: LyX crashed!

SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.
Please read the bug-reporting instructions in 'Help-Introduction' and
send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks! Bye.
Aborted (core dumped)
[mt@nh28d ~]$ 

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nomnex


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Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
> Here is the minimal example file.

I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X branch. Maybe 
someone else can.

Peter, which OS are you on?

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[nomnex]

> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:13:24 +0100
> Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
>
> Peter Baumgartner wrote:
> > Here is the minimal example file.
> 
> I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X
> branch. Maybe someone else can.
> 
> Peter, which OS are you on?
> 
> Jürgen

I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the official
outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and once I remove
the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc > Settings >
preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes immediately (LyX
closes). It generates a ABRT (automated bug reporting tool) report.

I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
answer is not relevant.

Regards,
nomnex

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Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

nomnex wrote:
> I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the official
> outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and once I remove
> the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc > Settings >
> preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes immediately (LyX
> closes). It generates a ABRT (automated bug reporting tool) report.

Thanks. Are there any suspicious messages in that report (or on the console, 
if you start LyX from there)? Also, can you export to LaTeX (pdflatex) and 
post the tex file here?

> I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
> a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
> answer is not relevant.

It will help pinpointing the problem. Thanks for investigating.

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > I am aware the file is in German. I am also a beginner (I installed LyX
> > a week ago, and I have NO level of expertise yet). Let me know if my
> > answer is not relevant.
> 
> It will help pinpointing the problem. Thanks for investigating.

I investigated a bit further and I think this is
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7941

This explains why I do not get the crash: The bug is already fixed in the 
stable branch.

Peter, if you compile the source yourself, you might try out latest branch or 
apply the following patch to your sources:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/40514

Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Stephan Witt]

Am 30.12.2011 um 09:13 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

> Peter Baumgartner wrote:
>> Here is the minimal example file.
> 
> I cannot reproduce the crash with this file, using latest 2_0_X branch. Maybe 
> someone else can.
> 
> Peter, which OS are you on?

I gave it a try on Mac OS X and it didn't crash with LyX trunk.
Terminal output:

Running: pdflatex -synctex=-1  "test-utf8-crash.tex" > /dev/null
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
...

Stephan

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[nomnex]

> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:50:57 +0100
> Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
>
> nomnex wrote:
> > I guess I can. I am using Fedroa 15 LXDE, LyX 2.0.2, and the
> > official outdated Textlive 2007 from the repo. I have tried, and
> > once I remove the package unsupported by my textlive version (Doc >
> > Settings > preamble), I can export to pdf/dvi. LyX crashes


 
> Thanks. Are there any suspicious messages in that report (or on the
> console, if you start LyX from there)? Also, can you export to LaTeX
> (pdflatex) and post the tex file here?

Hello, Jürgen. It looks like the problem as been solved. Anyway, for
the information, find below the the shell output of the error msg when
I preview the file to PDF or DVI.

I am not sure if it is related with the OP and the bug, or simply with
my configuration. I open the file. I remove the module convington,
and the command in the preamble. Then, I preview to pdf/dvi.

[mt@nh28d ~]$ lyx > /home/mt/desktop/lyx.log
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Warning: Package not available

The module linguistics requires a package that is not
available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
Missing prerequisites:
covington.sty
See section 3.1.2.3 (Modules) of the User's Guide for more information.
Buffer.cpp(1190):   /home/mt/document/lyx/test-utf8-crash.lyx.emergency

lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.
Please read the bug-reporting instructions in 'Help->Introduction' and
send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks! Bye.
Error: LyX crashed!

SIGSEGV signal caught!
Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX, hope you have not lost any data.
Please read the bug-reporting instructions in 'Help->Introduction' and
send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks! Bye.
Aborted (core dumped)
[mt@nh28d ~]$ 

Best regards,
nomnex


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Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Here is the minimal example file.

Peter



test-utf8-crash.lyx
Description: video/flv

Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Hello,

Using LyX 2.0.2 I experienced reproducible crashes with the following
combination:

- encoding: utf8
- module: linguistics with tableau environment
- language change inside text (command: \foreignlanguage)

The system crashes during pdflatex compilation with a tableau environment in
*combination* with a \foreignlanguage command *and* utf8 encoding.

(I was using language ngerman and changed a word to
\foreignlanguage{english}.)

Peter

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Using LyX 2.0.2 I experienced reproducible crashes with the following
 combination:
 
 - encoding: utf8
 - module: linguistics with tableau environment
 - language change inside text (command: \foreignlanguage)
 
 The system crashes during pdflatex compilation with a tableau environment in
 combination with a \foreignlanguage command and utf8 encoding.

Can you send a minimal example file? I tried to reproduce with your recipe, 
but LyX does not crash here.

Thanks,
Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Here is the minimal example file.

Peter



test-utf8-crash.lyx
Description: video/flv

Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Hello,

Using LyX 2.0.2 I experienced reproducible crashes with the following
combination:

- encoding: utf8
- module: linguistics with tableau environment
- language change inside text (command: \foreignlanguage)

The system crashes during pdflatex compilation with a tableau environment in
*combination* with a \foreignlanguage command *and* utf8 encoding.

(I was using language ngerman and changed a word to
\foreignlanguage{english}.)

Peter

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Using LyX 2.0.2 I experienced reproducible crashes with the following
 combination:
 
 - encoding: utf8
 - module: linguistics with tableau environment
 - language change inside text (command: \foreignlanguage)
 
 The system crashes during pdflatex compilation with a tableau environment in
 combination with a \foreignlanguage command and utf8 encoding.

Can you send a minimal example file? I tried to reproduce with your recipe, 
but LyX does not crash here.

Thanks,
Jürgen

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Here is the minimal example file.

Peter



test-utf8-crash.lyx
Description: video/flv

Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Peter Baumgartner]

Hello,

Using LyX 2.0.2 I experienced reproducible crashes with the following
combination:

-> encoding: utf8
-> module: linguistics with tableau environment
-> language change inside text (command: \foreignlanguage)

The system crashes during pdflatex compilation with a tableau environment in
*combination* with a \foreignlanguage command *and* utf8 encoding.

(I was using language ngerman and changed a word to
\foreignlanguage{english}.)

Peter

Re: Crash with language change in combination with utf8 & float tableau

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
> Using LyX 2.0.2 I experienced reproducible crashes with the following
> combination:
> 
> -> encoding: utf8
> -> module: linguistics with tableau environment
> -> language change inside text (command: \foreignlanguage)
> 
> The system crashes during pdflatex compilation with a tableau environment in
> combination with a \foreignlanguage command and utf8 encoding.

Can you send a minimal example file? I tried to reproduce with your recipe, 
but LyX does not crash here.

Thanks,
Jürgen

Language Change

[snvv]

Hello

I use sid debian with LyX 1.5-1 and I have a rather strange problem. 

When I change language (alt+shift) the LyX menu is activated. Thus, in order 
to write I have to press once the mouse (cursor) in the text to continue.

I thought might be a LyX config but I can't find anything about it.

Any suggestion please?

sn

Re: Language Change

[Dov Feldstern]

snvv wrote:

Hello

I use sid debian with LyX 1.5-1 and I have a rather strange problem. 

When I change language (alt+shift) the LyX menu is activated. Thus, in order 
to write I have to press once the mouse (cursor) in the text to continue.


I thought might be a LyX config but I can't find anything about it.

Any suggestion please?

sn



Hi!

It doesn't sound like a LyX config issue, sounds more like a bad 
interaction between LyX and the Desktop Environment. Here are a few 
suggestions, though they are probably not what you were hoping for, it's 
more workarounds than solutions:


1) Pressing Alt a second time may be enough to release the menu, so you 
don't have to go to the mouse every time you switch languages.


2) You might want to consider changing the key combination you use for 
switching languages (at the OS- / Window Manager- / Desktop Environment- 
level). I changed the combination I use, because there are some LyX 
bindings which I used a lot that contained Alt-Shift (e.g., 
Alt-Shift-right and Alt-Shift-left to increase/decrease the nesting 
level, for example in a listing). You can probably do this through the 
Gnome/KDE configuration if you're using one of those, or directly using 
setxkbmap.


3) I like using keymaps for switching languages in LyX, rather than 
switching at the keyboard level. To do that, you go to Tools - 
Preferences... - Look and feel - Keyboard, and check the use keyboard 
map option. Then select the primary and secondary keymaps that you want 
(I have 'null' as my primary, which I guess means no keymap). To switch 
between the keymaps, you have two options: if you're using an RTL 
language, then just switching to that language should automatically 
activate the keymap. Otherwise, you have to first make sure that the RTL 
option is turned off (Tools - Preferences... - Language settings - 
Language, and *un*check Right-to-left language support), and then you 
can use the Alt-k-1 and Alt-k-2 keybindings to select the primary or 
secondary keyboard, Alt-k-t to toggle between them (I myself use Hebrew, 
which is an RTL language, so I don't use these bindings).


Note, however, that regardless of how you switch the keyboard, you 
should also set the language correctly (Edit - Text style - 
Customized... - Language, or using the language  lfun), in order 
to let latex know what language the text is in, so that it can output it 
correctly. For this reason, using a keymap is an advantage, because then 
you can create a key binding which will both switch the keyboard and set 
the language with one keypress. I don't know how to achieve this if 
you're switching languages at the OS-level.


Dov

Language Change

[snvv]

Hello

I use sid debian with LyX 1.5-1 and I have a rather strange problem. 

When I change language (alt+shift) the LyX menu is activated. Thus, in order 
to write I have to press once the mouse (cursor) in the text to continue.

I thought might be a LyX config but I can't find anything about it.

Any suggestion please?

sn

Re: Language Change

[Dov Feldstern]

snvv wrote:

Hello

I use sid debian with LyX 1.5-1 and I have a rather strange problem. 

When I change language (alt+shift) the LyX menu is activated. Thus, in order 
to write I have to press once the mouse (cursor) in the text to continue.


I thought might be a LyX config but I can't find anything about it.

Any suggestion please?

sn



Hi!

It doesn't sound like a LyX config issue, sounds more like a bad 
interaction between LyX and the Desktop Environment. Here are a few 
suggestions, though they are probably not what you were hoping for, it's 
more workarounds than solutions:


1) Pressing Alt a second time may be enough to release the menu, so you 
don't have to go to the mouse every time you switch languages.


2) You might want to consider changing the key combination you use for 
switching languages (at the OS- / Window Manager- / Desktop Environment- 
level). I changed the combination I use, because there are some LyX 
bindings which I used a lot that contained Alt-Shift (e.g., 
Alt-Shift-right and Alt-Shift-left to increase/decrease the nesting 
level, for example in a listing). You can probably do this through the 
Gnome/KDE configuration if you're using one of those, or directly using 
setxkbmap.


3) I like using keymaps for switching languages in LyX, rather than 
switching at the keyboard level. To do that, you go to Tools - 
Preferences... - Look and feel - Keyboard, and check the use keyboard 
map option. Then select the primary and secondary keymaps that you want 
(I have 'null' as my primary, which I guess means no keymap). To switch 
between the keymaps, you have two options: if you're using an RTL 
language, then just switching to that language should automatically 
activate the keymap. Otherwise, you have to first make sure that the RTL 
option is turned off (Tools - Preferences... - Language settings - 
Language, and *un*check Right-to-left language support), and then you 
can use the Alt-k-1 and Alt-k-2 keybindings to select the primary or 
secondary keyboard, Alt-k-t to toggle between them (I myself use Hebrew, 
which is an RTL language, so I don't use these bindings).


Note, however, that regardless of how you switch the keyboard, you 
should also set the language correctly (Edit - Text style - 
Customized... - Language, or using the language  lfun), in order 
to let latex know what language the text is in, so that it can output it 
correctly. For this reason, using a keymap is an advantage, because then 
you can create a key binding which will both switch the keyboard and set 
the language with one keypress. I don't know how to achieve this if 
you're switching languages at the OS-level.


Dov

Language Change

[snvv]

Hello

I use sid debian with LyX 1.5-1 and I have a rather strange problem. 

When I change language (alt+shift) the LyX menu is activated. Thus, in order 
to write I have to press once the mouse (cursor) in the text to continue.

I thought might be a LyX config but I can't find anything about it.

Any suggestion please?

sn

Re: Language Change

[Dov Feldstern]

snvv wrote:

Hello

I use sid debian with LyX 1.5-1 and I have a rather strange problem. 

When I change language (alt+shift) the LyX menu is activated. Thus, in order 
to write I have to press once the mouse (cursor) in the text to continue.


I thought might be a LyX config but I can't find anything about it.

Any suggestion please?

sn



Hi!

It doesn't sound like a LyX config issue, sounds more like a bad 
interaction between LyX and the Desktop Environment. Here are a few 
suggestions, though they are probably not what you were hoping for, it's 
more workarounds than solutions:


1) Pressing Alt a second time may be enough to release the menu, so you 
don't have to go to the mouse every time you switch languages.


2) You might want to consider changing the key combination you use for 
switching languages (at the OS- / Window Manager- / Desktop Environment- 
level). I changed the combination I use, because there are some LyX 
bindings which I used a lot that contained Alt-Shift (e.g., 
Alt-Shift-right and Alt-Shift-left to increase/decrease the nesting 
level, for example in a listing). You can probably do this through the 
Gnome/KDE configuration if you're using one of those, or directly using 
setxkbmap.


3) I like using keymaps for switching languages in LyX, rather than 
switching at the keyboard level. To do that, you go to Tools -> 
Preferences... -> Look and feel -> Keyboard, and check the "use keyboard 
map" option. Then select the primary and secondary keymaps that you want 
(I have 'null' as my primary, which I guess means no keymap). To switch 
between the keymaps, you have two options: if you're using an RTL 
language, then just switching to that language should automatically 
activate the keymap. Otherwise, you have to first make sure that the RTL 
option is turned off (Tools -> Preferences... -> Language settings -> 
Language, and *un*check "Right-to-left language support"), and then you 
can use the Alt-k-1 and Alt-k-2 keybindings to select the primary or 
secondary keyboard, Alt-k-t to toggle between them (I myself use Hebrew, 
which is an RTL language, so I don't use these bindings).


Note, however, that regardless of how you switch the keyboard, you 
should also set the language correctly (Edit -> Text style -> 
Customized... -> Language, or using the "language " lfun), in order 
to let latex know what language the text is in, so that it can output it 
correctly. For this reason, using a keymap is an advantage, because then 
you can create a key binding which will both switch the keyboard and set 
the language with one keypress. I don't know how to achieve this if 
you're switching languages at the OS-level.


Dov

Bug: Language change in 1.4.1

[Alex]

Dear All,

I have found something what makes my life hard.

I got powerdot into working state, but it is little bit buggy, because I
can compile the presentation only with the language set to english. I
would need magyar (hungarian)  but this an another story

My problem:
 - I make a section heading
 - I insert short title
 - I change the language of both, by selecting it.

Unfortunately, the text in the short tag, still keeps its language.
So, I have to change it to english all the time.

I don't have this with the footnote, for example.


Alex

Bug: Language change in 1.4.1

[Alex]

Dear All,

I have found something what makes my life hard.

I got powerdot into working state, but it is little bit buggy, because I
can compile the presentation only with the language set to english. I
would need magyar (hungarian)  but this an another story

My problem:
 - I make a section heading
 - I insert short title
 - I change the language of both, by selecting it.

Unfortunately, the text in the short tag, still keeps its language.
So, I have to change it to english all the time.

I don't have this with the footnote, for example.


Alex

Bug: Language change in 1.4.1

[Alex]

Dear All,

I have found something what makes my life hard.

I got powerdot into working state, but it is little bit buggy, because I
can compile the presentation only with the language set to english. I
would need magyar (hungarian)  but this an another story

My problem:
 - I make a section heading
 - I insert short title
 - I change the language of both, by selecting it.

Unfortunately, the text in the short tag, still keeps its language.
So, I have to change it to english all the time.

I don't have this with the footnote, for example.


Alex

Problems with language change

[A. L. Meyers]

Dear fellow LyX-users,

Tried to send this earlier today but apparently something went wrong 
because I never received it myself.

Working in different languages, I wanted to use the templates:
g-brief-de.lyx   or
g-brief-en.lyx
as bases for an new g-brief-fr.lyx,
same format in French.
View dvi of the original templates produced no error messages.
All I did was:
Layout - Document - Language - french
Now Update dvi produces 8 or 9 errors, which I do not know how to get 
rid of.

Best regards,

Lucien
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Problems with language change

[A. L. Meyers]

Dear fellow LyX-users,

Tried to send this earlier today but apparently something went wrong 
because I never received it myself.

Working in different languages, I wanted to use the templates:
g-brief-de.lyx   or
g-brief-en.lyx
as bases for an new g-brief-fr.lyx,
same format in French.
View dvi of the original templates produced no error messages.
All I did was:
Layout - Document - Language - french
Now Update dvi produces 8 or 9 errors, which I do not know how to get 
rid of.

Best regards,

Lucien
-- 
This communication may contain confidential data and is intended only
for the rightful addressee. Kindly delete it at once should you receive
it by error and inform the sender. We encourage e-mail encrpytion.
Please visit our web site: http://www.consult-meyers.com



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Problems with language change

[A. L. Meyers]

Dear fellow LyX-users,

Tried to send this earlier today but apparently something went wrong 
because I never received it myself.

Working in different languages, I wanted to use the templates:
g-brief-de.lyx   or
g-brief-en.lyx
as bases for an new g-brief-fr.lyx,
same format in French.
View dvi of the original templates produced no error messages.
All I did was:
Layout - Document - Language - french
Now Update dvi produces 8 or 9 errors, which I do not know how to get 
rid of.

Best regards,

Lucien
-- 
This communication may contain confidential data and is intended only
for the rightful addressee. Kindly delete it at once should you receive
it by error and inform the sender. We encourage e-mail encrpytion.
Please visit our web site: http://www.consult-meyers.com



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