Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref > solved

2019-04-05 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 04.04.19 15:10, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On 04.04.19 15:03, Axel Dessecker wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019, 14:41:08 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann

mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:
 On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
  of he
  > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 
to Document >

 > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
  Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try 
this one, to

 see
 whether the Umlaute are ok?
   @Article{Buenning1935,
    author  = {Bünning, E.},
    title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität 
bei

 den
 {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
    journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
    year    = {1935},
    volume  = {81},
    pages   = {411--418},
 }

We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to
help you.

Jürgen

In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a
new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the
problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many
literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, 
although

only this item is required.

Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx
question.

But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old
bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the
one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the
new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?

Thanks for all the help

Wolfgang


Are you sure about the correct formatting of your older entries 
containing

umlauts? Have you recoded the .bib file to UTF-8?

Axel


Yes, I did.

Just found out, that apparently the new Jabref 4.3.1 needs 
Java-8-openjdk, not Java-9-openjdk, or alternatively openjfx.


Will try, and thanks

Wolfgang

installing openjdk-8-jdk and reinstalling jabref 2.10 solved my problem. 
I appreciated the help I received.


Wolfgang



Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 04.04.19 15:03, Axel Dessecker wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019, 14:41:08 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann

mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:
 On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
 
 of he
 
 > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >

 > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
 
 Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to

 see
 whether the Umlaute are ok?
 
 
 @Article{Buenning1935,

author  = {Bünning, E.},
title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei
 den
 {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
year= {1935},
volume  = {81},
pages   = {411--418},
 }

We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to
help you.

Jürgen

In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a
new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the
problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many
literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, although
only this item is required.

Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx
question.

But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old
bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the
one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the
new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?

Thanks for all the help

Wolfgang


Are you sure about the correct formatting of your older entries containing
umlauts? Have you recoded the .bib file to UTF-8?

Axel


Yes, I did.

Just found out, that apparently the new Jabref 4.3.1 needs 
Java-8-openjdk, not Java-9-openjdk, or alternatively openjfx.


Will try, and thanks

Wolfgang



Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Axel Dessecker
Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019, 14:41:08 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann
> > 
> > mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:
> > On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
> > 
> > of he
> > 
> > > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
> > > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
> > 
> > Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to
> > see
> > whether the Umlaute are ok?
> > 
> > 
> > @Article{Buenning1935,
> >author  = {Bünning, E.},
> >title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei
> > den
> > {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
> >journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
> >year= {1935},
> >volume  = {81},
> >pages   = {411--418},
> > }
> > 
> > We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to
> > help you.
> > 
> > Jürgen
> 
> In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a
> new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the
> problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many
> literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, although
> only this item is required.
> 
> Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx
> question.
> 
> But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old
> bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the
> one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the
> new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?
> 
> Thanks for all the help
> 
> Wolfgang


Are you sure about the correct formatting of your older entries containing 
umlauts? Have you recoded the .bib file to UTF-8?

Axel



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Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 
mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:



On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
of he
> document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
> Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options

Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to
see
whether the Umlaute are ok?


@Article{Buenning1935,
   author  = {Bünning, E.},
   title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei
den
{P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
   journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
   year    = {1935},
   volume  = {81},
   pages   = {411--418},
}


We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to 
help you.


Jürgen


In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a 
new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the 
problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many 
literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, although 
only this item is required.


Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx 
question.


But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old 
bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the 
one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the 
new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?


Thanks for all the help

Wolfgang



Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

>
> On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he
> > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
> > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
>
> Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to see
> whether the Umlaute are ok?
>
>
> @Article{Buenning1935,
>author  = {Bünning, E.},
>title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei den
> {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
>journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
>year= {1935},
>volume  = {81},
>pages   = {411--418},
> }
>

We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to help you.

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 04.04.19 10:27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he 
document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document > 
Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options


Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to see 
whether the Umlaute are ok?



@Article{Buenning1935,
  author  = {Bünning, E.},
  title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei den 
{P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},

  journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
  year    = {1935},
  volume  = {81},
  pages   = {411--418},
}

I do not get them even after using your proposal (Bookstyle Komascript 
English)


Wolfgang



ps: I also did this before in the bib file

https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/81716/umlauts-in-a-jabref-managed-bibtex-file-and-file-encoding

#
That's right. If your bib-File is rather old, check in Jabref 
(Preferences->General->Encoding) that you use UTF8 and convert the file 
via |iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 jabref_old.bib > jabref_new.bib|. It 
seems (tex.stackexchange.com/questions/97252/… 
) 
that |\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}| is still needed, too. – mpy 
 Mar 2 '13 at 15:05 
 


#
Thanks for the answer. I'll try this next week and let you know whether 
it works fine. @mpy Thank you too for your comment. I never came across 
|iconv| so far. – halirutan 
 Mar 2 '13 at 19:59 
 


#
3
But bibtex does not handle some utf8 characters (umlauts) from bib 
files. It will look fine in JabRef but will give errors when compiling. 
Switching to biblatex/biber solves the issue. – remus 
 Apr 24 '13 at 19:41 



however, I tried this one in the preamplewhich was refused by Lyx since 
utf8 was already defined:


|\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
|

|do I need to include inputenc and where would I do that?|

|Wolfgang
|




Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he 
document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document > 
Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options


Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to see 
whether the Umlaute are ok?



@Article{Buenning1935,
  author  = {Bünning, E.},
  title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei den 
{P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},

  journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
  year    = {1935},
  volume  = {81},
  pages   = {411--418},
}

I do not get them even after using your proposal (Bookstyle Komascript 
English)


Wolfgang




Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 16:20 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

> Is standard coding UTF8 ok?
>

As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he
document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 03.04.19 15:53, Axel Dessecker wrote:

Wolfgang,

Am Mittwoch, 3. April 2019, 15:47:58 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <

engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.

It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given biber is
correctly installed).
But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if "Automatic"
is set.


What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?

I don't use jabref.

Jürgen

You can select a biblatex mode in JabRef.

Axel


Thanks, Axel, yes. I had selected it already under 
>options>preferences>standard bibliography mode


Is standard coding UTF8 ok?

Wolfgang








Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 03.04.19 15:47, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 
mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:


I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.


It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given 
biber is correctly installed).
But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if 
"Automatic" is set.


I did not have biber installed. Will try now.

Thanks a lot, Jürgen

Wolfgang


What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?

I don't use jabref.

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Axel Dessecker
Wolfgang,

Am Mittwoch, 3. April 2019, 15:47:58 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
> 
> engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:
> > I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
> > tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.
> 
> It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given biber is
> correctly installed).
> But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if "Automatic"
> is set.
> 
> > What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?
> 
> I don't use jabref.
> 
> Jürgen

You can select a biblatex mode in JabRef.

Axel







Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

> I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
> tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.
>

It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given biber is
correctly installed).
But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if "Automatic"
is set.

> What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?
>
I don't use jabref.

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 03.04.19 15:15, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:07 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 
mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:


Where can I get infos re Biber Biblatex Jabref Lyx?


UserGuide, 6.5.2.2.


I read this and made the settings, but can't find under 
tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.


What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?

Wolfgang



and

https://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:07 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

> Where can I get infos re Biber Biblatex Jabref Lyx?
>

UserGuide, 6.5.2.2.

and

https://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex

Jürgen