Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-20 9:23 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net:

 Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a consistent
 behaviour?


Note that we talk of a contributed style, which is not included in LyX.

I think the proper solution would be to make ClassicThesis a class (not a
style). For LyX support, the implementation does not even directly load a
style, but some *config.tex file.

Jürgen



 Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Guenter Milde]

On 2015-05-19, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

 The crucial difference is probably that while using KOMA, typearea is
 loaded first (by the class), then geometry (by LyX) which does the final
 settings and overrides whatever KOMA sets via typearea.
 With ClassicThesis, the classicthesis package is loaded after LyX loads
 geometry and then overrides the page settings and everything done by
 geometry.

Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a consistent
behaviour?

Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[John Kane]

Thanks  Jürgen,
Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it

On 20 May 2015 at 03:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 2015-05-20 9:23 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net:

 Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a
 consistent
 behaviour?


 Note that we talk of a contributed style, which is not included in LyX.

 I think the proper solution would be to make ClassicThesis a class (not a
 style). For LyX support, the implementation does not even directly load a
 style, but some *config.tex file.

 Jürgen



 Günter





-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-20 15:16 GMT+02:00 John Kane:

 Thanks  Jürgen,
 Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
 Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it


The layout is not included in the LyX distribution. You need to install it
from an external source:
https://bitbucket.org/amiede/classicthesis/downloads

Jürgen

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[John Kane]

Oh I downloaded and installed it with really no problem. It was just that I
thought it should be a document class.  Or something :(

Thanks.

On 20 May 2015 at 09:19, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 2015-05-20 15:16 GMT+02:00 John Kane:

 Thanks  Jürgen,
 Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
 Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it


 The layout is not included in the LyX distribution. You need to install it
 from an external source:
 https://bitbucket.org/amiede/classicthesis/downloads

 Jürgen





-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Guenter Milde]

On 2015-05-19, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

 The crucial difference is probably that while using KOMA, typearea is
 loaded first (by the class), then geometry (by LyX) which does the final
 settings and overrides whatever KOMA sets via typearea.
 With ClassicThesis, the classicthesis package is loaded after LyX loads
 geometry and then overrides the page settings and everything done by
 geometry.

Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a consistent
behaviour?

Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-20 9:23 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net:

 Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a consistent
 behaviour?


Note that we talk of a contributed style, which is not included in LyX.

I think the proper solution would be to make ClassicThesis a class (not a
style). For LyX support, the implementation does not even directly load a
style, but some *config.tex file.

Jürgen



 Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[John Kane]

Thanks  Jürgen,
Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it

On 20 May 2015 at 03:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 2015-05-20 9:23 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net:

 Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a
 consistent
 behaviour?


 Note that we talk of a contributed style, which is not included in LyX.

 I think the proper solution would be to make ClassicThesis a class (not a
 style). For LyX support, the implementation does not even directly load a
 style, but some *config.tex file.

 Jürgen



 Günter





-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-20 15:16 GMT+02:00 John Kane:

 Thanks  Jürgen,
 Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
 Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it


The layout is not included in the LyX distribution. You need to install it
from an external source:
https://bitbucket.org/amiede/classicthesis/downloads

Jürgen

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[John Kane]

Oh I downloaded and installed it with really no problem. It was just that I
thought it should be a document class.  Or something :(

Thanks.

On 20 May 2015 at 09:19, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 2015-05-20 15:16 GMT+02:00 John Kane:

 Thanks  Jürgen,
 Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
 Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it


 The layout is not included in the LyX distribution. You need to install it
 from an external source:
 https://bitbucket.org/amiede/classicthesis/downloads

 Jürgen





-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Guenter Milde]

On 2015-05-19, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

> The crucial difference is probably that while using KOMA, typearea is
> loaded first (by the class), then geometry (by LyX) which does the final
> settings and overrides whatever KOMA sets via typearea.
> With ClassicThesis, the classicthesis package is loaded after LyX loads
> geometry and then overrides the page settings and everything done by
> geometry.

Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a consistent
behaviour?

Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-20 9:23 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde :

> Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a consistent
> behaviour?
>

Note that we talk of a contributed style, which is not included in LyX.

I think the proper solution would be to make ClassicThesis a class (not a
style). For LyX support, the implementation does not even directly load a
style, but some *config.tex file.

Jürgen


>
> Günter
>
>

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[John Kane]

Thanks  Jürgen,
Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it

On 20 May 2015 at 03:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:

> 2015-05-20 9:23 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde :
>
>> Is there a chance to load ClassicThesis before gemoetry to get a
>> consistent
>> behaviour?
>>
>
> Note that we talk of a contributed style, which is not included in LyX.
>
> I think the proper solution would be to make ClassicThesis a class (not a
> style). For LyX support, the implementation does not even directly load a
> style, but some *config.tex file.
>
> Jürgen
>
>
>>
>> Günter
>>
>>
>


-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-20 15:16 GMT+02:00 John Kane:

> Thanks  Jürgen,
> Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
> Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it
>

The layout is not included in the LyX distribution. You need to install it
from an external source:
https://bitbucket.org/amiede/classicthesis/downloads

Jürgen

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[John Kane]

Oh I downloaded and installed it with really no problem. It was just that I
thought it should be a document class.  Or something :(

Thanks.

On 20 May 2015 at 09:19, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:

> 2015-05-20 15:16 GMT+02:00 John Kane:
>
>> Thanks  Jürgen,
>> Somewhat OT but I was wondering how it worked. I combed through the
>> Document Class list three times and even Reconfigured looking for it
>>
>
> The layout is not included in the LyX distribution. You need to install it
> from an external source:
> https://bitbucket.org/amiede/classicthesis/downloads
>
> Jürgen
>
>



-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Guenter Milde]

On 2015-05-18, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

 [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: quoted-printable --]

 Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015 schrieb Michael Berger :
 thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost no
 LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.
 I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
 This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation -

 KOMA-Script Article does not load typearea automatically, as opposed to
 classicthesis. So you can use geometry with the former.

Well, in scrartcl.cls, I find

  \RequirePackage{typearea}[\KOMAScriptVersion]

after a lot of

\PassOptionsToPackage{...}{typearea}%

However, the geometry package seems to override the typearea settings.

Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-19 10:33 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde:


 Well, in scrartcl.cls, I find

   \RequirePackage{typearea}[\KOMAScriptVersion]

 after a lot of

 \PassOptionsToPackage{...}{typearea}%


Right. I stand corrected.



 However, the geometry package seems to override the typearea settings.


The crucial difference is probably that while using KOMA, typearea is
loaded first (by the class), then geometry (by LyX) which does the final
settings and overrides whatever KOMA sets via typearea.
With ClassicThesis, the classicthesis package is loaded after LyX loads
geometry and then overrides the page settings and everything done by
geometry.



 Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Guenter Milde]

On 2015-05-18, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

 [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: quoted-printable --]

 Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015 schrieb Michael Berger :
 thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost no
 LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.
 I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
 This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation -

 KOMA-Script Article does not load typearea automatically, as opposed to
 classicthesis. So you can use geometry with the former.

Well, in scrartcl.cls, I find

  \RequirePackage{typearea}[\KOMAScriptVersion]

after a lot of

\PassOptionsToPackage{...}{typearea}%

However, the geometry package seems to override the typearea settings.

Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-19 10:33 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde:


 Well, in scrartcl.cls, I find

   \RequirePackage{typearea}[\KOMAScriptVersion]

 after a lot of

 \PassOptionsToPackage{...}{typearea}%


Right. I stand corrected.



 However, the geometry package seems to override the typearea settings.


The crucial difference is probably that while using KOMA, typearea is
loaded first (by the class), then geometry (by LyX) which does the final
settings and overrides whatever KOMA sets via typearea.
With ClassicThesis, the classicthesis package is loaded after LyX loads
geometry and then overrides the page settings and everything done by
geometry.



 Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Guenter Milde]

On 2015-05-18, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

> [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: quoted-printable --]

> Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015 schrieb Michael Berger :
>> thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost no
> LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.
>> I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
>> This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation -

> KOMA-Script Article does not load typearea automatically, as opposed to
> classicthesis. So you can use geometry with the former.

Well, in scrartcl.cls, I find

  \RequirePackage{typearea}[\KOMAScriptVersion]

after a lot of

\PassOptionsToPackage{...}{typearea}%

However, the geometry package seems to override the typearea settings.

Günter

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-19 10:33 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde:

>
> Well, in scrartcl.cls, I find
>
>   \RequirePackage{typearea}[\KOMAScriptVersion]
>
> after a lot of
>
> \PassOptionsToPackage{...}{typearea}%
>

Right. I stand corrected.


>
> However, the geometry package seems to override the typearea settings.
>

The crucial difference is probably that while using KOMA, typearea is
loaded first (by the class), then geometry (by LyX) which does the final
settings and overrides whatever KOMA sets via typearea.
With ClassicThesis, the classicthesis package is loaded after LyX loads
geometry and then overrides the page settings and everything done by
geometry.


>
> Günter
>
>

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 04:12 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you 
need to use the commands of that package to change the layout:


\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the 
margins directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and 
rationalization.


Jürgen

Hi Jürgen,

thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost 
no LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.

I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation - but then I 
feel I may not have completely grasped what you said.
Anyway, it appears to me Miede's example document classicthesis has no 
advantage compared to KOMA-Script Article (at least for the less 
experienced user) and no special brilliance.
Quite contrary, his classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1 produces the most excellent 
dissertations I have come across so far.


Thanks for your continuing help,
Michael

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015 schrieb Michael Berger :
 thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost no
LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.
 I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
 This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation -

KOMA-Script Article does not load typearea automatically, as opposed to
classicthesis. So you can use geometry with the former.

Jürgen

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 04:12 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you 
need to use the commands of that package to change the layout:


\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the 
margins directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and 
rationalization.


Jürgen

Hi Jürgen,

thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost 
no LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.

I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation - but then I 
feel I may not have completely grasped what you said.
Anyway, it appears to me Miede's example document classicthesis has no 
advantage compared to KOMA-Script Article (at least for the less 
experienced user) and no special brilliance.
Quite contrary, his classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1 produces the most excellent 
dissertations I have come across so far.


Thanks for your continuing help,
Michael

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015 schrieb Michael Berger :
 thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost no
LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.
 I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
 This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation -

KOMA-Script Article does not load typearea automatically, as opposed to
classicthesis. So you can use geometry with the former.

Jürgen

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 04:12 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you 
need to use the commands of that package to change the layout:


\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the 
margins directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and 
rationalization.


Jürgen

Hi Jürgen,

thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost 
no LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.

I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation - but then I 
feel I may not have completely grasped what you said.
Anyway, it appears to me Miede's example document classicthesis has no 
advantage compared to KOMA-Script Article (at least for the less 
experienced user) and no special brilliance.
Quite contrary, his classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1 produces the most excellent 
dissertations I have come across so far.


Thanks for your continuing help,
Michael

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015 schrieb Michael Berger :
> thank you for your input. With time constraints in the neck and almost no
LaTeX knowledge I switched to Document Class KOMA-Script Article.
> I can now set the page margins as needed. :-)
> This seems to be contradicting with your above explanation -

KOMA-Script Article does not load typearea automatically, as opposed to
classicthesis. So you can use geometry with the former.

Jürgen

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 02:45 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 05/14/2015 06:17 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked 
as 'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?


What document class are you using?

Can you post the simplest possible LyX document that shows this error?

Richard


Hi Richard,
I add the tex file as well.
classicthesis-article is an example document from within André Miede's 
'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.

None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary in 
the latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably meager.
Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right because 
everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' - but not in 
'classicthesis-article'.
For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as 
integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s) out of 
the entire collection may also be needed.


Thanks and cheers!
Michael


classicthesis-article.lyx
Description: application/lyx
% article example for classicthesis.sty
\documentclass[10pt,a4paper]{article} % KOMA-Script article scrartcl
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{url}
\usepackage[nochapters]{../classicthesis} % nochapters

\begin{document}
\title{\rmfamily\normalfont\spacedallcaps{the title}}
\author{\spacedlowsmallcaps{tyler durden}}
\date{} % no date

\maketitle

\begin{abstract}
\noindent\lipsum[1] Just a test.\footnote{This is a footnote.}
\end{abstract}
   
\tableofcontents

\section{A Section}
\finalVersionString \lipsum[1]
\subsection{A Subsection}
\lipsum[1]
\subsection{A Subsection}

\section{A Section}
\lipsum[1]

% bib stuff
\nocite{*}
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\vspace{\beforebibskip}}
\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\refname}
\bibliographystyle{plain}
\bibliography{../Bibliography}
\end{document}% 
% classicthesis-config.tex
% formerly known as loadpackages.sty, classicthesis-ldpkg.sty, and classicthesis-preamble.sty
% Use it at the beginning of your ClassicThesis.tex, or as a LaTeX Preamble
% in your ClassicThesis.{tex,lyx} with \input{classicthesis-config}
% 
% If you like the classicthesis, then I would appreciate a postcard.
% My address can be found in the file ClassicThesis.pdf. A collection
% of the postcards I received so far is available online at
% http://postcards.miede.de
% 

% 
% 1. Configure classicthesis for your needs here, e.g., remove drafting below
% in order to deactivate the time-stamp on the pages
% 
\PassOptionsToPackage{eulerchapternumbers,listings,drafting,%
 pdfspacing,%floatperchapter,%linedheaders,%
 subfig,beramono,parts}{classicthesis}
% 
% Available options for classicthesis.sty
% (see ClassicThesis.pdf for more information):
% drafting
% parts nochapters linedheaders
% eulerchapternumbers beramono eulermath pdfspacing minionprospacing
% tocaligned dottedtoc manychapters
% listings floatperchapter subfig
% 

% 
% Triggers for this config
% 
\usepackage{ifthen}
\newboolean{enable-backrefs} % enable backrefs in the bibliography
\setboolean{enable-backrefs}{true} % true false
% 


% 
% 2. Personal data and user ad-hoc commands
% 
\newcommand{\myTitle}{A Classic Thesis Style\xspace}
\newcommand{\mySubtitle}{An Homage to The Elements of Typographic Style\xspace}
\newcommand{\myDegree}{Bachelor of Art Linguistic\xspace}
\newcommand{\myName}{Mike Berger\xspace}
\newcommand{\myProf}{Prof. Dr. Susanne Göpferich\xspace}
\newcommand{\myOtherProf}{Put name here\xspace}
\newcommand{\mySupervisor}{Put name here\xspace}
\newcommand{\myFaculty}{Sprachwissenschaften\xspace}

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Richard Heck]

On 05/14/2015 06:17 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked as 
'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?


What document class are you using?

Can you post the simplest possible LyX document that shows this error?

Richard

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-14 16:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger :

  Hi Richard,
 I add the tex file as well.
 classicthesis-article is an example document from within André Miede's
 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.
 None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
 While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary in the
 latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably meager.
 Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right because
 everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' - but not in
 'classicthesis-article'.
 For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as
 integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
 I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s) out of
 the entire collection may also be needed.


Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you need
to use the commands of that package to change the layout:

\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the margins
directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and rationalization.

Jürgen



 Thanks and cheers!
 Michael

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 04:12 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2015-05-14 16:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger :

Hi Richard,
I add the tex file as well.
classicthesis-article is an example document from within André
Miede's 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.
None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary
in the latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably
meager.
Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right
because everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'
- but not in 'classicthesis-article'.
For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as
integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s)
out of the entire collection may also be needed.


Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you 
need to use the commands of that package to change the layout:


\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the 
margins directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and 
rationalization.


Jürgen

Thanks and cheers!
Michael



Thanks Jürgen,
will have to study what you said.
Michael

changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked as 
'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?

Michael Berger



Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked as 
'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?

Michael Berger



Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Richard Heck]

On 05/14/2015 06:17 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked as 
'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?


What document class are you using?

Can you post the simplest possible LyX document that shows this error?

Richard

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 02:45 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 05/14/2015 06:17 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked 
as 'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?


What document class are you using?

Can you post the simplest possible LyX document that shows this error?

Richard


Hi Richard,
I add the tex file as well.
classicthesis-article is an example document from within André Miede's 
'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.

None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary in 
the latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably meager.
Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right because 
everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' - but not in 
'classicthesis-article'.
For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as 
integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s) out of 
the entire collection may also be needed.


Thanks and cheers!
Michael


classicthesis-article.lyx
Description: application/lyx
% article example for classicthesis.sty
\documentclass[10pt,a4paper]{article} % KOMA-Script article scrartcl
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{url}
\usepackage[nochapters]{../classicthesis} % nochapters

\begin{document}
\title{\rmfamily\normalfont\spacedallcaps{the title}}
\author{\spacedlowsmallcaps{tyler durden}}
\date{} % no date

\maketitle

\begin{abstract}
\noindent\lipsum[1] Just a test.\footnote{This is a footnote.}
\end{abstract}
   
\tableofcontents

\section{A Section}
\finalVersionString \lipsum[1]
\subsection{A Subsection}
\lipsum[1]
\subsection{A Subsection}

\section{A Section}
\lipsum[1]

% bib stuff
\nocite{*}
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\vspace{\beforebibskip}}
\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\refname}
\bibliographystyle{plain}
\bibliography{../Bibliography}
\end{document}% 
% classicthesis-config.tex
% formerly known as loadpackages.sty, classicthesis-ldpkg.sty, and classicthesis-preamble.sty
% Use it at the beginning of your ClassicThesis.tex, or as a LaTeX Preamble
% in your ClassicThesis.{tex,lyx} with \input{classicthesis-config}
% 
% If you like the classicthesis, then I would appreciate a postcard.
% My address can be found in the file ClassicThesis.pdf. A collection
% of the postcards I received so far is available online at
% http://postcards.miede.de
% 

% 
% 1. Configure classicthesis for your needs here, e.g., remove drafting below
% in order to deactivate the time-stamp on the pages
% 
\PassOptionsToPackage{eulerchapternumbers,listings,drafting,%
 pdfspacing,%floatperchapter,%linedheaders,%
 subfig,beramono,parts}{classicthesis}
% 
% Available options for classicthesis.sty
% (see ClassicThesis.pdf for more information):
% drafting
% parts nochapters linedheaders
% eulerchapternumbers beramono eulermath pdfspacing minionprospacing
% tocaligned dottedtoc manychapters
% listings floatperchapter subfig
% 

% 
% Triggers for this config
% 
\usepackage{ifthen}
\newboolean{enable-backrefs} % enable backrefs in the bibliography
\setboolean{enable-backrefs}{true} % true false
% 


% 
% 2. Personal data and user ad-hoc commands
% 
\newcommand{\myTitle}{A Classic Thesis Style\xspace}
\newcommand{\mySubtitle}{An Homage to The Elements of Typographic Style\xspace}
\newcommand{\myDegree}{Bachelor of Art Linguistic\xspace}
\newcommand{\myName}{Mike Berger\xspace}
\newcommand{\myProf}{Prof. Dr. Susanne Göpferich\xspace}
\newcommand{\myOtherProf}{Put name here\xspace}
\newcommand{\mySupervisor}{Put name here\xspace}
\newcommand{\myFaculty}{Sprachwissenschaften\xspace}

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-14 16:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger :

  Hi Richard,
 I add the tex file as well.
 classicthesis-article is an example document from within André Miede's
 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.
 None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
 While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary in the
 latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably meager.
 Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right because
 everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' - but not in
 'classicthesis-article'.
 For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as
 integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
 I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s) out of
 the entire collection may also be needed.


Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you need
to use the commands of that package to change the layout:

\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the margins
directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and rationalization.

Jürgen



 Thanks and cheers!
 Michael

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 04:12 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2015-05-14 16:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger :

Hi Richard,
I add the tex file as well.
classicthesis-article is an example document from within André
Miede's 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.
None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary
in the latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably
meager.
Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right
because everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'
- but not in 'classicthesis-article'.
For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as
integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s)
out of the entire collection may also be needed.


Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you 
need to use the commands of that package to change the layout:


\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the 
margins directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and 
rationalization.


Jürgen

Thanks and cheers!
Michael



Thanks Jürgen,
will have to study what you said.
Michael

changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked as 
'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?

Michael Berger



Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Richard Heck]

On 05/14/2015 06:17 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked as 
'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?


What document class are you using?

Can you post the simplest possible LyX document that shows this error?

Richard

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 02:45 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 05/14/2015 06:17 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Lyxers,
I am using a LyX example document where the Page margins are ticked 
as 'Default'.

I can untick and then enter new values for the margins.
However, I can see no change in the PDF document.

Has anyone an idea why?


What document class are you using?

Can you post the simplest possible LyX document that shows this error?

Richard


Hi Richard,
I add the tex file as well.
classicthesis-article is an example document from within André Miede's 
'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.

None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary in 
the latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably meager.
Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right because 
everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' - but not in 
'classicthesis-article'.
For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as 
integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s) out of 
the entire collection may also be needed.


Thanks and cheers!
Michael


classicthesis-article.lyx
Description: application/lyx
% article example for classicthesis.sty
\documentclass[10pt,a4paper]{article} % KOMA-Script article scrartcl
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{url}
\usepackage[nochapters]{../classicthesis} % nochapters

\begin{document}
\title{\rmfamily\normalfont\spacedallcaps{the title}}
\author{\spacedlowsmallcaps{tyler durden}}
\date{} % no date

\maketitle

\begin{abstract}
\noindent\lipsum[1] Just a test.\footnote{This is a footnote.}
\end{abstract}
   
\tableofcontents

\section{A Section}
\finalVersionString \lipsum[1]
\subsection{A Subsection}
\lipsum[1]
\subsection{A Subsection}

\section{A Section}
\lipsum[1]

% bib stuff
\nocite{*}
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\vspace{\beforebibskip}}
\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\refname}
\bibliographystyle{plain}
\bibliography{../Bibliography}
\end{document}% 
% classicthesis-config.tex
% formerly known as loadpackages.sty, classicthesis-ldpkg.sty, and classicthesis-preamble.sty
% Use it at the beginning of your ClassicThesis.tex, or as a LaTeX Preamble
% in your ClassicThesis.{tex,lyx} with \input{classicthesis-config}
% 
% If you like the classicthesis, then I would appreciate a postcard.
% My address can be found in the file ClassicThesis.pdf. A collection
% of the postcards I received so far is available online at
% http://postcards.miede.de
% 

% 
% 1. Configure classicthesis for your needs here, e.g., remove "drafting" below
% in order to deactivate the time-stamp on the pages
% 
\PassOptionsToPackage{eulerchapternumbers,listings,drafting,%
 pdfspacing,%floatperchapter,%linedheaders,%
 subfig,beramono,parts}{classicthesis}
% 
% Available options for classicthesis.sty
% (see ClassicThesis.pdf for more information):
% drafting
% parts nochapters linedheaders
% eulerchapternumbers beramono eulermath pdfspacing minionprospacing
% tocaligned dottedtoc manychapters
% listings floatperchapter subfig
% 

% 
% Triggers for this config
% 
\usepackage{ifthen}
\newboolean{enable-backrefs} % enable backrefs in the bibliography
\setboolean{enable-backrefs}{true} % true false
% 


% 
% 2. Personal data and user ad-hoc commands
% 
\newcommand{\myTitle}{A Classic Thesis Style\xspace}
\newcommand{\mySubtitle}{An Homage to The Elements of Typographic Style\xspace}
\newcommand{\myDegree}{Bachelor of Art Linguistic\xspace}
\newcommand{\myName}{Mike Berger\xspace}
\newcommand{\myProf}{Prof. Dr. Susanne Göpferich\xspace}
\newcommand{\myOtherProf}{Put name here\xspace}
\newcommand{\mySupervisor}{Put name here\xspace}
\newcommand{\myFaculty}{Sprachwissenschaften\xspace}

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-05-14 16:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger :

>  Hi Richard,
> I add the tex file as well.
> classicthesis-article is an example document from within André Miede's
> 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.
> None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
> While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary in the
> latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably meager.
> Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right because
> everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' - but not in
> 'classicthesis-article'.
> For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as
> integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
> I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s) out of
> the entire collection may also be needed.
>
>
Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you need
to use the commands of that package to change the layout:

\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the margins
directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and rationalization.

Jürgen



> Thanks and cheers!
> Michael
>

Re: changing default margin settings shows no effect

[Michael Berger]

On 05/14/2015 04:12 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2015-05-14 16:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Berger :

Hi Richard,
I add the tex file as well.
classicthesis-article is an example document from within André
Miede's 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1' collection.
None of the two allows for changing the page margins.
While that was never necessary to do in the first, it is necessary
in the latter because the top and bottom margins are unacceptably
meager.
Miede sure had his reasons to block such changes and he is right
because everything is just perfect in his 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'
- but not in 'classicthesis-article'.
For that reason I also attach the file classicthesis-config.tex as
integral part of 'classicthesis-Lyx-v4.1'.
I hope you can open the example as it could be some other file(s)
out of the entire collection may also be needed.


Classicthesis internally loads typearea (from the KOMA bundle), so you 
need to use the commands of that package to change the layout:


\areaset{width}{height}

As opposed to geometry (which is used by LyX), you cannot alter the 
margins directly. Please refer to the KOMA manual for details and 
rationalization.


Jürgen

Thanks and cheers!
Michael



Thanks Jürgen,
will have to study what you said.
Michael