Re: A multi-volume document?
Les Denham wrote: On Thursday 20 November 2008, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi If you don't mind continuous page numbering for the two volumes, I'd suggest creating it as one document (with child documents as convenient -- I usually use one for each chapter) using a document class which uses Parts (such as the various book classes), and put each volume into a Part. Then generate a PDF file for the whole book and use PDFTK to split it into the two volumes. You could use this tool to add a copy of the TOC to the second volume if desired. If you want separate page numbering for each volume, it's a bit more complicated. You would need to reset the page number at the beginning of Part 2, but I think this would give problems with cross references, the table of contents and the index. The TOC and cross references ought to work, but there will obviously be the problem of deciding if it is page 45 in volume one or volume two. It is possible to use parts, and use the part number as part of the cross reference. It is probably best to include the part number only when the page isn't in the same volume. Such things can be programmed in latex, and the extra time might be worth it if there are lots of such cross references. Or just type volume I/II explixitly when needed, although that will give you grief if you ever move a chapter from one volume to another.
Re: A multi-volume document?
Les Denham wrote: On Thursday 20 November 2008, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi If you don't mind continuous page numbering for the two volumes, I'd suggest creating it as one document (with child documents as convenient -- I usually use one for each chapter) using a document class which uses Parts (such as the various book classes), and put each volume into a Part. Then generate a PDF file for the whole book and use PDFTK to split it into the two volumes. You could use this tool to add a copy of the TOC to the second volume if desired. If you want separate page numbering for each volume, it's a bit more complicated. You would need to reset the page number at the beginning of Part 2, but I think this would give problems with cross references, the table of contents and the index. The TOC and cross references ought to work, but there will obviously be the problem of deciding if it is page 45 in volume one or volume two. It is possible to use parts, and use the part number as part of the cross reference. It is probably best to include the part number only when the page isn't in the same volume. Such things can be programmed in latex, and the extra time might be worth it if there are lots of such cross references. Or just type volume I/II explixitly when needed, although that will give you grief if you ever move a chapter from one volume to another.
Re: A multi-volume document?
Les Denham wrote: On Thursday 20 November 2008, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi If you don't mind continuous page numbering for the two volumes, I'd suggest creating it as one document (with child documents as convenient -- I usually use one for each chapter) using a document class which uses Parts (such as the various book classes), and put each volume into a Part. Then generate a PDF file for the whole book and use PDFTK to split it into the two volumes. You could use this tool to add a copy of the TOC to the second volume if desired. If you want separate page numbering for each volume, it's a bit more complicated. You would need to reset the page number at the beginning of Part 2, but I think this would give problems with cross references, the table of contents and the index. The TOC and cross references ought to work, but there will obviously be the problem of deciding if it is "page 45" in volume one or volume two. It is possible to use parts, and use the part number as part of the cross reference. It is probably best to include the part number only when the page isn't in the same volume. Such things can be programmed in latex, and the extra time might be worth it if there are lots of such cross references. Or just type "volume I/II" explixitly when needed, although that will give you grief if you ever move a chapter from one volume to another.
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as various documents. rh
Re: A multi-volume document?
rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... -mi
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: rgheck wrote: = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... There may be a LaTeX package that does this. Search CTAN. rh
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... I certainly hope you won't notice any problem of responsiveness, even for a thousand page document. IMO, the only two benefits of multipart document are: 1) you want to often preview the result (dvi or pdf) 2) you want to share some parts between multiple documents 3) you want to publish many part independently I don't preview often personally but I point 2 is quite important. 3 is your case. Otherwise a plain big document is just fine. = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... TOCS and document classes are done globally with the master document so that should just work. Abdel.
Re: A multi-volume document?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:56:03 -0500 Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... I'm guessing that you can export the document to one pdf and then split the pdf. I believe that pdfnup and be abused to do this ... -mi
Re: A multi-volume document?
On Thursday 20 November 2008, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi If you don't mind continuous page numbering for the two volumes, I'd suggest creating it as one document (with child documents as convenient -- I usually use one for each chapter) using a document class which uses Parts (such as the various book classes), and put each volume into a Part. Then generate a PDF file for the whole book and use PDFTK to split it into the two volumes. You could use this tool to add a copy of the TOC to the second volume if desired. If you want separate page numbering for each volume, it's a bit more complicated. You would need to reset the page number at the beginning of Part 2, but I think this would give problems with cross references, the table of contents and the index. -- Les ~~ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as various documents. rh
Re: A multi-volume document?
rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... -mi
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: rgheck wrote: = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... There may be a LaTeX package that does this. Search CTAN. rh
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... I certainly hope you won't notice any problem of responsiveness, even for a thousand page document. IMO, the only two benefits of multipart document are: 1) you want to often preview the result (dvi or pdf) 2) you want to share some parts between multiple documents 3) you want to publish many part independently I don't preview often personally but I point 2 is quite important. 3 is your case. Otherwise a plain big document is just fine. = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... TOCS and document classes are done globally with the master document so that should just work. Abdel.
Re: A multi-volume document?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:56:03 -0500 Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... I'm guessing that you can export the document to one pdf and then split the pdf. I believe that pdfnup and be abused to do this ... -mi
Re: A multi-volume document?
On Thursday 20 November 2008, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi If you don't mind continuous page numbering for the two volumes, I'd suggest creating it as one document (with child documents as convenient -- I usually use one for each chapter) using a document class which uses Parts (such as the various book classes), and put each volume into a Part. Then generate a PDF file for the whole book and use PDFTK to split it into the two volumes. You could use this tool to add a copy of the TOC to the second volume if desired. If you want separate page numbering for each volume, it's a bit more complicated. You would need to reset the page number at the beginning of Part 2, but I think this would give problems with cross references, the table of contents and the index. -- Les ~~ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as various documents. rh
Re: A multi-volume document?
rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... -mi
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: rgheck wrote: = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... There may be a LaTeX package that does this. Search CTAN. rh
Re: A multi-volume document?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: rgheck wrote: = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... I certainly hope you won't notice any problem of responsiveness, even for a thousand page document. IMO, the only two benefits of multipart document are: 1) you want to often preview the result (dvi or pdf) 2) you want to share some parts between multiple documents 3) you want to publish many part independently I don't preview often personally but I point 2 is quite important. 3 is your case. Otherwise a plain big document is just fine. = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as = various documents. Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and styles, should apply to the entire work once... TOCS and document classes are done globally with the master document so that should just work. Abdel.
Re: A multi-volume document?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:56:03 -0500 Mikhail Teterin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > rgheck wrote: > = If you're working with a huge document, you're better breaking it up > = into sub-documents anyway, as LyX will be much more responsive. > > I have a beefy machine and don't (yet?) notice poor responsiveness... > > = And no, I don't think there's any easy way to print a single document as > = various documents. > > Wouldn't this be a nice feature -- to have the software divide the document > between volumes, just like it already divides it between pages, etc.? > > I wouldn't mind to divide things once, but some things -- like TOCs and > styles, should apply to the entire work once... > I'm guessing that you can export the document to one pdf and then split the pdf. I believe that pdfnup and be abused to do this ... > -mi > >
Re: A multi-volume document?
On Thursday 20 November 2008, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. > > Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce > several PDF files for printing? > > Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! > > -mi If you don't mind continuous page numbering for the two volumes, I'd suggest creating it as one document (with child documents as convenient -- I usually use one for each chapter) using a document class which uses Parts (such as the various book classes), and put each volume into a Part. Then generate a PDF file for the whole book and use PDFTK to split it into the two volumes. You could use this tool to add a copy of the TOC to the second volume if desired. If you want separate page numbering for each volume, it's a bit more complicated. You would need to reset the page number at the beginning of Part 2, but I think this would give problems with cross references, the table of contents and the index. -- Les ~~ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
A multi-volume document?
Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi
A multi-volume document?
Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi
A multi-volume document?
Hello! I'm working with a document, thats too big for a single-volume book. Is there a way I can work with it as one document, but tell LyX to produce several PDF files for printing? Or do I have to split the document into several myself? Thanks! -mi
