Re: Attaching References

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 01/28/2017 12:48 PM, William Hanson wrote:

Here's the present situation:

I use Windows.  On Jan 25 I was unable to get LyX 2.0.5.1 to add just 
three new references to a document.  (The document already had about 
40 references that LyX had previously created.)  I downloaded a new 
version of LyX (2.2.2), but I'm unable to use it.  Specifically I 
can't even open my document in 2.2.2.  When I try I get the following 
popup: "The selected document class Article (Standard Class) requires 
external files that are unavailable", and it says I must install 
article.cls. When I close that popup I immediately get another one 
that says I need to install fancyhdr.sty.  Closing that popup I get a 
third that tells me  to install enumitem.sty.  I don't know where to 
find or how to install any of these files. And I don't know enough 
about LyX or LATEX to be able to follow the instructions in the User 
Guide and Customization Manual to solve the problem.
The popups are basically saying that MiKTeX (the LaTeX distribution you 
are likely using, or trying to use), is either not installed at all or 
not installed correctly. I believe that Uwe just updated the Windows 
installers on the download page (http://www.lyx.org/Download). The 
(rather large) "bundle" version is the one that includes MiKTeX. You 
might try that one.


So I've gone back to trying to make 2.0.5.1 work.  I have a bib file 
that I created in Mendeley, but I can't get 2.0.5.1 to insert it into 
my document.  Sometimes when I try (using Insert → List/TOC → BibTeX 
Bibliography) I'm unable to find this bib file.  Specifically, the box 
that pops up in LyX (with the heading LyX: BibTex Bibliography) is 
empty, and when I hit the Browse button and then go to the Windows 
folder that contains my file its name doesn't appear.
The "Browse" button looks for /style/ files (.bst extension). To find 
your bibliography (.bib extension), use the Add... button, then 
Browse..., and navigate. (I wasn't sure which Browse button you meant).
  Other times times I can find and insert this file, but when I try to 
create a pdf I can't.  (Luatex, dvipdfm, and pdflatex do nothing.  
XeTeX and ps2pdf give error messages.)  Before the present problems 
started appearing LuaTeX always created a pdf.
Do you not get an error message for pdflatex? Is the Document > View 
[PDF (pdflatex)] menu item enabled? Does anything show up in the status 
bar (bottom of the window) when you click this? I wonder if the document 
might actually be compiling but then LyX either can't find a viewer to 
use (Acrobat Reader is a common choice on Windows) or can't get it to open.


Paul

Re: Attaching References

[William Hanson]

Here's the present situation:

I use Windows.  On Jan 25 I was unable to get LyX 2.0.5.1 to add just three
new references to a document.  (The document already had about 40
references that LyX had previously created.)  I downloaded a new version of
LyX (2.2.2), but I'm unable to use it.  Specifically I can't even open my
document in 2.2.2.  When I try I get the following popup: "The selected
document class Article (Standard Class) requires external files that are
unavailable", and it says I must install article.cls. When I close that
popup I immediately get another one that says I need to install
fancyhdr.sty.  Closing that popup I get a third that tells me  to install
enumitem.sty.  I don't know where to find or how to install any of these
files.  And I don't know enough about LyX or LATEX to be able to follow the
instructions in the User Guide and Customization Manual to solve the
problem.

So I've gone back to trying to make 2.0.5.1 work.  I have a bib file that I
created in Mendeley, but I can't get 2.0.5.1 to insert it into my
document.  Sometimes when I try (using Insert → List/TOC → BibTeX
Bibliography) I'm unable to find this bib file.  Specifically, the box that
pops up in LyX (with the heading LyX: BibTex Bibliography) is empty, and
when I hit the Browse button and then go to the Windows folder that
contains my file its name doesn't appear.  Other times times I can find and
insert this file, but when I try to create a pdf I can't.  (Luatex,
dvipdfm, and pdflatex do nothing.  XeTeX and ps2pdf give error messages.)
Before the present problems started appearing LuaTeX always created a pdf.

So LyX is now doing less for me than it did a couple of days ago.  Then it
would create a bibliography for my document, and that bibliography
contained all the references in the document except the three I needed to
add.  Now it won't create any bibliography at all, and it won't create a
pdf.

How can I get out of this mess?





On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:

> On 01/26/2017 01:42 AM, William Hanson wrote:
> > Chris,
> > I'm using Windows and LyX 2.0.5.1.  Since I've been unable to make LyX
> > 2.2.2.2 work (more about that later), and since all I needed to do to
> > complete my document was add three references, I tried to make 2.0.5.1
> > do that for me.
> >
> > However, since I first wrote the situation has changed somewhat.  (I
> > suppose that's due to the messing around I've been doing.)
> >
> > I do indeed have a BibTeX Generated Bibliography box at the end of my
> > document.   And when I click on it the window that opens contains a
> > link to the .bib file I created with Mendeley.  This sounds promising,
> > but now when I try to insert a reference into the document (by
> > choosing Citation) the box that pops up is empty.
>
> The most likely problem here is an encoding issue. I expect there is
> some Unicode character in the Mendeley-generated bibfile that LyX is
> choking on. My suggestion would to try bisecting the file to find the
> offending character. First, make a backup of it in case something goes
> wrong. Then open the file in Notepad or something and delete the last
> half of it. Now see if it works in LyX. If so, the problem is in the
> last half, so delete half of that, etc. If it doesn't work, delete more
> of it, until you get something that does work.
>
> Alternatively, if you want to send me the bib file (use this email), I
> can look at it and see what the problem might be. Feel free to send me
> the LyX file that isn't working, too. It may again be some kind of
> encoding issue.
>
> Richard
>
>

Re: Attaching References

[Richard Heck]

On 01/26/2017 01:42 AM, William Hanson wrote:
> Chris,
> I'm using Windows and LyX 2.0.5.1.  Since I've been unable to make LyX
> 2.2.2.2 work (more about that later), and since all I needed to do to
> complete my document was add three references, I tried to make 2.0.5.1
> do that for me. 
>
> However, since I first wrote the situation has changed somewhat.  (I
> suppose that's due to the messing around I've been doing.) 
>
> I do indeed have a BibTeX Generated Bibliography box at the end of my
> document.   And when I click on it the window that opens contains a
> link to the .bib file I created with Mendeley.  This sounds promising,
> but now when I try to insert a reference into the document (by
> choosing Citation) the box that pops up is empty. 

The most likely problem here is an encoding issue. I expect there is
some Unicode character in the Mendeley-generated bibfile that LyX is
choking on. My suggestion would to try bisecting the file to find the
offending character. First, make a backup of it in case something goes
wrong. Then open the file in Notepad or something and delete the last
half of it. Now see if it works in LyX. If so, the problem is in the
last half, so delete half of that, etc. If it doesn't work, delete more
of it, until you get something that does work.

Alternatively, if you want to send me the bib file (use this email), I
can look at it and see what the problem might be. Feel free to send me
the LyX file that isn't working, too. It may again be some kind of
encoding issue.

Richard

Re: Attaching References

[William Hanson]

Chris,
I'm using Windows and LyX 2.0.5.1.  Since I've been unable to make LyX
2.2.2.2 work (more about that later), and since all I needed to do to
complete my document was add three references, I tried to make 2.0.5.1 do
that for me.

However, since I first wrote the situation has changed somewhat.  (I
suppose that's due to the messing around I've been doing.)

I do indeed have a BibTeX Generated Bibliography box at the end of my
document.   And when I click on it the window that opens contains a link to
the .bib file I created with Mendeley.  This sounds promising, but now when
I try to insert a reference into the document (by choosing Citation) the
box that pops up is empty.

And now, unlike earlier today, I'm no longer able to create a pdf using any
of the pdf options under File→Export.  (Some of those pdf commands now
produce error messages, and the ones that don't do nothing.  Previously
LuaTeX produced pdfs.)  So I'm still stuck.

Thanks for responding.  Nice eagle.
Bill






On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Christopher Menzel 
wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> What platform? Mac? Windows? Linux? Also, what sorts of messages are you
> getting? And, just to make sure, did you insert a pointer to your .bib file
> at the end of your document by selecting Insert → List/TOC → BibTeX
> bibliography? All you say is that you stuck the file somewhere but LaTeX
> needs to know where to find it.
>
> In my experience with all three platforms, if you install the latest
> version of TeX for your platform and then the latest version of LyX, things
> generally should Just Work. So if you haven't upgraded your TeX
> installation in a while I'd consider doing that and then installing Lyx
> 2.2.2. (You should rename your copy of LyX 2.0.5.1 first to avoid having it
> overwritten; it'll still work.)
>
> -chris
>
> > On 25 Jan 2017, at 3:16 PM, William Hanson  wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I've created a BibTeX (.bib) file in Mendeley Desktop and used the
> Import option in Mendeley to get this file into a folder in my main
> collection of folders (outside Mendeley Desktop).  But I can't get LyX to
> access this file and create citations in documents I'm working on. When I
> try to insert a citation into a document I'm given access only to an old
> list of citations, not to those in the new file just mentioned.  And I
> can't get LyX to let me add the citations in the new file to the old list.
> >
> > I'm using LyX 2.0.5.1, which I've used for years.  I've downloaded
> 2.2.2.2, but but I can barely get started with it.  It keeps telling me
> that I have to add new files to make things work, but I'm unable to do so,
> and the Users Manual doesn't help.
> >
> > What should I do?
> >
> > Bill Hanson
>
>

Re: Attaching References

[Richard Heck]

> On 25 Jan 2017, at 3:16 PM, William Hanson  wrote:
>> I'm using LyX 2.0.5.1, which I've used for years.  I've downloaded 2.2.2.2, 
>> but but I can barely get started with it.  It keeps telling me that I have 
>> to add new files to make things work, but I'm unable to do so, and the Users 
>> Manual doesn't help.

When is LyX 2.2.2 telling you that you need to add new files? What files
is it telling you that you need to add?

Richard

Re: Attaching References

[Christopher Menzel]

Hi Bill,

What platform? Mac? Windows? Linux? Also, what sorts of messages are you 
getting? And, just to make sure, did you insert a pointer to your .bib file at 
the end of your document by selecting Insert → List/TOC → BibTeX bibliography? 
All you say is that you stuck the file somewhere but LaTeX needs to know where 
to find it.

In my experience with all three platforms, if you install the latest version of 
TeX for your platform and then the latest version of LyX, things generally 
should Just Work. So if you haven't upgraded your TeX installation in a while 
I'd consider doing that and then installing Lyx 2.2.2. (You should rename your 
copy of LyX 2.0.5.1 first to avoid having it overwritten; it'll still work.)

-chris

> On 25 Jan 2017, at 3:16 PM, William Hanson  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I've created a BibTeX (.bib) file in Mendeley Desktop and used the Import 
> option in Mendeley to get this file into a folder in my main collection of 
> folders (outside Mendeley Desktop).  But I can't get LyX to access this file 
> and create citations in documents I'm working on. When I try to insert a 
> citation into a document I'm given access only to an old list of citations, 
> not to those in the new file just mentioned.  And I can't get LyX to let me 
> add the citations in the new file to the old list.
> 
> I'm using LyX 2.0.5.1, which I've used for years.  I've downloaded 2.2.2.2, 
> but but I can barely get started with it.  It keeps telling me that I have to 
> add new files to make things work, but I'm unable to do so, and the Users 
> Manual doesn't help.
> 
> What should I do?
> 
> Bill Hanson

Attaching References

[William Hanson]

Dear All,

I've created a BibTeX (.bib) file in Mendeley Desktop and used the Import
option in Mendeley to get this file into a folder in my main collection of
folders (outside Mendeley Desktop).  But I can't get LyX to access this
file and create citations in documents I'm working on. When I try to insert
a citation into a document I'm given access only to an old list of
citations, not to those in the new file just mentioned.  And I can't get
LyX to let me add the citations in the new file to the old list.

I'm using LyX 2.0.5.1, which I've used for years.  I've downloaded 2.2.2.2,
but but I can barely get started with it.  It keeps telling me that I have
to add new files to make things work, but I'm unable to do so, and the
Users Manual doesn't help.

What should I do?

Bill Hanson