Re: Generating lindex entries
BcBob wrote: I am looking for open source tools to help generating index entries. I know Lyx has an interface to the Latex makeindex utility but I am looking for utilities to generate a list of the words, phrases etc to use in the index. Something as simple as a utility to find all unique words in the index with pointers back to the original location in the file would help a lot. Such a tool could be useful in some cases - and just wrong in some other. For many kinds of book, you do _not_ want to index every place some word is used. Only those places that have important information about the concept. Entries like this is of little use: concept 25, 26, 28, 39, 42, 57 ,66-73, 78, 89-92, 104 Because the reader is not going to look up all that, and many of these places only mentions concept briefly. For most books, something like this is preferred: concept 28, 66, 89 My editor told me never to index the same word more than 3 times. So I had to pick the most important sites. And when a word occur over and over in a multi-page discussion, just index the first page. The reader will then read the entire discussion anyway. Of course there are some kinds of book where you may need to index every occurence - but this is definitiely not a generic way of doing it. Once I had a word to index, I found the search replace dialog useful for finding the word in the text. Helge Hafting
Re: Generating lindex entries
BcBob wrote: I am looking for open source tools to help generating index entries. I know Lyx has an interface to the Latex makeindex utility but I am looking for utilities to generate a list of the words, phrases etc to use in the index. Something as simple as a utility to find all unique words in the index with pointers back to the original location in the file would help a lot. Such a tool could be useful in some cases - and just wrong in some other. For many kinds of book, you do _not_ want to index every place some word is used. Only those places that have important information about the concept. Entries like this is of little use: concept 25, 26, 28, 39, 42, 57 ,66-73, 78, 89-92, 104 Because the reader is not going to look up all that, and many of these places only mentions concept briefly. For most books, something like this is preferred: concept 28, 66, 89 My editor told me never to index the same word more than 3 times. So I had to pick the most important sites. And when a word occur over and over in a multi-page discussion, just index the first page. The reader will then read the entire discussion anyway. Of course there are some kinds of book where you may need to index every occurence - but this is definitiely not a generic way of doing it. Once I had a word to index, I found the search replace dialog useful for finding the word in the text. Helge Hafting
Re: Generating lindex entries
BcBob wrote: I am looking for open source tools to help generating index entries. I know Lyx has an interface to the Latex makeindex utility but I am looking for utilities to generate a list of the words, phrases etc to use in the index. Something as simple as a utility to find all unique words in the index with pointers back to the original location in the file would help a lot. Such a tool could be useful in some cases - and just wrong in some other. For many kinds of book, you do _not_ want to index every place some word is used. Only those places that have important information about the concept. Entries like this is of little use: concept 25, 26, 28, 39, 42, 57 ,66-73, 78, 89-92, 104 Because the reader is not going to look up all that, and many of these places only mentions "concept" briefly. For most books, something like this is preferred: concept 28, 66, 89 My editor told me never to index the same word more than 3 times. So I had to pick the most important sites. And when a word occur over and over in a multi-page discussion, just index the first page. The reader will then read the entire discussion anyway. Of course there are some kinds of book where you may need to index every occurence - but this is definitiely not a generic way of doing it. Once I had a word to index, I found the "search & replace" dialog useful for finding the word in the text. Helge Hafting
Generating lindex entries
I am looking for open source tools to help generating index entries. I know Lyx has an interface to the Latex makeindex utility but I am looking for utilities to generate a list of the words, phrases etc to use in the index. Something as simple as a utility to find all unique words in the index with pointers back to the original location in the file would help a lot. Microsoft Word provides a concordance file generator tool that also seems useful. It takes a list of words and generates pointers to their locations within the text. I did a search and found some commercial packages: textract, macrex, and cindex. But (a) I do not know how well they integrate with Lyx or Latex and (b) they are expensive. Any suggestions or comments welcome. Bob -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Generating-lindex-entries-tp2336743p2336743.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Generating lindex entries
I found a perl script on the internet that makes a concordance. http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=104604 I ran it on my windows computer using cygwin (after downloading Perl) and it works (mostly) To use: 1. export document from Lyx as text 2. convert the text file to Unix style newlines (LF only). I do this with my editor, Editpad Pro 3. run the script MakeConcordance LyxText.txt LyxTextConcord.txt I noticed the Lyx text file includes the Latex code for equations and has some lines beginning with [ like [Senseless!!! (I didn't know Lyx made editorial comments :-), which seems to give the Perl code problems. But this gets me part of the way there. It would be nice to have better coupling between the output of the concordance program and Lyx. Bob -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Generating-lindex-entries-tp2336743p2337046.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Generating lindex entries
I am looking for open source tools to help generating index entries. I know Lyx has an interface to the Latex makeindex utility but I am looking for utilities to generate a list of the words, phrases etc to use in the index. Something as simple as a utility to find all unique words in the index with pointers back to the original location in the file would help a lot. Microsoft Word provides a concordance file generator tool that also seems useful. It takes a list of words and generates pointers to their locations within the text. I did a search and found some commercial packages: textract, macrex, and cindex. But (a) I do not know how well they integrate with Lyx or Latex and (b) they are expensive. Any suggestions or comments welcome. Bob -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Generating-lindex-entries-tp2336743p2336743.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Generating lindex entries
I found a perl script on the internet that makes a concordance. http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=104604 I ran it on my windows computer using cygwin (after downloading Perl) and it works (mostly) To use: 1. export document from Lyx as text 2. convert the text file to Unix style newlines (LF only). I do this with my editor, Editpad Pro 3. run the script MakeConcordance LyxText.txt LyxTextConcord.txt I noticed the Lyx text file includes the Latex code for equations and has some lines beginning with [ like [Senseless!!! (I didn't know Lyx made editorial comments :-), which seems to give the Perl code problems. But this gets me part of the way there. It would be nice to have better coupling between the output of the concordance program and Lyx. Bob -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Generating-lindex-entries-tp2336743p2337046.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Generating lindex entries
I am looking for open source tools to help generating index entries. I know Lyx has an interface to the Latex makeindex utility but I am looking for utilities to generate a list of the words, phrases etc to use in the index. Something as simple as a utility to find all unique words in the index with pointers back to the original location in the file would help a lot. Microsoft Word provides a concordance file generator tool that also seems useful. It takes a list of words and generates pointers to their locations within the text. I did a search and found some commercial packages: textract, macrex, and cindex. But (a) I do not know how well they integrate with Lyx or Latex and (b) they are expensive. Any suggestions or comments welcome. Bob -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Generating-lindex-entries-tp2336743p2336743.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Generating lindex entries
I found a perl script on the internet that makes a concordance. http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=104604 I ran it on my windows computer using cygwin (after downloading Perl) and it works (mostly) To use: 1. export document from Lyx as text 2. convert the text file to Unix style newlines (LF only). I do this with my editor, Editpad Pro 3. run the script MakeConcordance LyxText.txt > LyxTextConcord.txt I noticed the Lyx text file includes the Latex code for equations and has some lines beginning with [ like [Senseless!!! (I didn't know Lyx made editorial comments :-), which seems to give the Perl code problems. But this gets me part of the way there. It would be nice to have better coupling between the output of the concordance program and Lyx. Bob -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Generating-lindex-entries-tp2336743p2337046.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
