Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:
 However, if you measure the height of the capital M
 or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A 12
 pt font should be a 12 pt font.

Not quite. Traditionally, the font size includes some vertical whitespace (it 
derives from the height of the metal body in metal typesetting, not from the 
height of the characters; in digital typesetting, such extra whitespace is 
also often included in the metrics). So two 12pt fonts might well differ in 
character height. 

Jürgen

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

On 3 August 2010 03:09, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:
  However, if you measure the height of the capital M
  or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A
 12
  pt font should be a 12 pt font.

 Not quite. Traditionally, the font size includes some vertical whitespace
 (it
 derives from the height of the metal body in metal typesetting, not from
 the
 height of the characters; in digital typesetting, such extra whitespace is
 also often included in the metrics). So two 12pt fonts might well differ in
 character height.


Well I stand corrected :) Thanks for that clarification.


Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:
 However, if you measure the height of the capital M
 or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A 12
 pt font should be a 12 pt font.

Not quite. Traditionally, the font size includes some vertical whitespace (it 
derives from the height of the metal body in metal typesetting, not from the 
height of the characters; in digital typesetting, such extra whitespace is 
also often included in the metrics). So two 12pt fonts might well differ in 
character height. 

Jürgen

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

On 3 August 2010 03:09, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:
  However, if you measure the height of the capital M
  or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A
 12
  pt font should be a 12 pt font.

 Not quite. Traditionally, the font size includes some vertical whitespace
 (it
 derives from the height of the metal body in metal typesetting, not from
 the
 height of the characters; in digital typesetting, such extra whitespace is
 also often included in the metrics). So two 12pt fonts might well differ in
 character height.


Well I stand corrected :) Thanks for that clarification.


Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:
> However, if you measure the height of the capital M
> or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A 12
> pt font should be a 12 pt font.

Not quite. Traditionally, the font size includes some vertical whitespace (it 
derives from the height of the metal body in metal typesetting, not from the 
height of the characters; in digital typesetting, such extra whitespace is 
also often included in the metrics). So two 12pt fonts might well differ in 
character height. 

Jürgen

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

On 3 August 2010 03:09, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:

> Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:
> > However, if you measure the height of the capital M
> > or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A
> 12
> > pt font should be a 12 pt font.
>
> Not quite. Traditionally, the font size includes some vertical whitespace
> (it
> derives from the height of the metal body in metal typesetting, not from
> the
> height of the characters; in digital typesetting, such extra whitespace is
> also often included in the metrics). So two 12pt fonts might well differ in
> character height.
>
>
Well I stand corrected :) Thanks for that clarification.


Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)

help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Bok Young Hoon]

Hi
I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my thesis in
12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt font used by other
word processors (most notably Microsoft Office). When I change the font size
in LyX to Large it seems to be too large (but maybe it's the correct
setting if I want to get somethng comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does
anyone know more about this? Is the normal size font in LyX really smaller
than 12 pts even though I think there's documentation saying that it should
be comparable to 12 pt font.

I'll really be grateful for any help with this issue.

Bok

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:31:59 -0400
Bok Young Hoon bok.youngh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my
 thesis in 12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt
 font used by other word processors (most notably Microsoft Office).
 When I change the font size in LyX to Large 
 
To change the default font size you should use Document  Settings 
Fonts  Base size  12. If you need larger default document font size, look at 
article (more font sizes) or similar. 

 it seems to be too
 large (but maybe it's the correct setting if I want to get somethng
 comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does anyone know more about this? Is
 the normal size font in LyX really smaller than 12 pts even though
 I think there's documentation saying that it should be comparable to
 12 pt font.
 
I think that this depends on the particular font you choose. You may
want to experiment with various fonts in Document  Settings 
Fonts  Roman  Sans Serif until you find something satisfactory. 

Regards
Liviu

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

On 2 August 2010 14:31, Bok Young Hoon bok.youngh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my thesis in
 12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt font used by other
 word processors (most notably Microsoft Office). When I change the font size
 in LyX to Large it seems to be too large (but maybe it's the correct
 setting if I want to get somethng comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does
 anyone know more about this? Is the normal size font in LyX really smaller
 than 12 pts even though I think there's documentation saying that it should
 be comparable to 12 pt font.


The PDF files generated by LyX are actually generated through the LaTeX
typesetting system. LaTeX uses the Computer Modern font by default. This
font has a different overall appearance on paper compared to Times New Roman
of the same point size. However, if you measure the height of the capital M
or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A 12
pt font should be a 12 pt font. You can change the font to something else in
the Document:Settings:Font:Roman box. For instance, you can choose Time
Roman, which will look very close to using Times New Roman under Office.
However, maybe it is the LaTeX class you are using that redefines the font
internally to something smaller ? Perhaps it does not support the size
options.

What are your document settings (class, default font, font base size,
margins and text layout) ? You should compare these to the Word template
provided by your institution.

I am currently writing my thesis with a school-provided class using the
Times font at 12pt. The output looks nearly identical to the school's Word
template, except for the spacing between sections which is typeset
differently between Word and LaTeX.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)

help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Bok Young Hoon]

Hi
I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my thesis in
12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt font used by other
word processors (most notably Microsoft Office). When I change the font size
in LyX to Large it seems to be too large (but maybe it's the correct
setting if I want to get somethng comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does
anyone know more about this? Is the normal size font in LyX really smaller
than 12 pts even though I think there's documentation saying that it should
be comparable to 12 pt font.

I'll really be grateful for any help with this issue.

Bok

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:31:59 -0400
Bok Young Hoon bok.youngh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my
 thesis in 12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt
 font used by other word processors (most notably Microsoft Office).
 When I change the font size in LyX to Large 
 
To change the default font size you should use Document  Settings 
Fonts  Base size  12. If you need larger default document font size, look at 
article (more font sizes) or similar. 

 it seems to be too
 large (but maybe it's the correct setting if I want to get somethng
 comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does anyone know more about this? Is
 the normal size font in LyX really smaller than 12 pts even though
 I think there's documentation saying that it should be comparable to
 12 pt font.
 
I think that this depends on the particular font you choose. You may
want to experiment with various fonts in Document  Settings 
Fonts  Roman  Sans Serif until you find something satisfactory. 

Regards
Liviu

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

On 2 August 2010 14:31, Bok Young Hoon bok.youngh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my thesis in
 12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt font used by other
 word processors (most notably Microsoft Office). When I change the font size
 in LyX to Large it seems to be too large (but maybe it's the correct
 setting if I want to get somethng comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does
 anyone know more about this? Is the normal size font in LyX really smaller
 than 12 pts even though I think there's documentation saying that it should
 be comparable to 12 pt font.


The PDF files generated by LyX are actually generated through the LaTeX
typesetting system. LaTeX uses the Computer Modern font by default. This
font has a different overall appearance on paper compared to Times New Roman
of the same point size. However, if you measure the height of the capital M
or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A 12
pt font should be a 12 pt font. You can change the font to something else in
the Document:Settings:Font:Roman box. For instance, you can choose Time
Roman, which will look very close to using Times New Roman under Office.
However, maybe it is the LaTeX class you are using that redefines the font
internally to something smaller ? Perhaps it does not support the size
options.

What are your document settings (class, default font, font base size,
margins and text layout) ? You should compare these to the Word template
provided by your institution.

I am currently writing my thesis with a school-provided class using the
Times font at 12pt. The output looks nearly identical to the school's Word
template, except for the spacing between sections which is typeset
differently between Word and LaTeX.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)

help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Bok Young Hoon]

Hi
I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my thesis in
12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt font used by other
word processors (most notably Microsoft Office). When I change the font size
in LyX to "Large" it seems to be too large (but maybe it's the correct
setting if I want to get somethng comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does
anyone know more about this? Is the "normal" size font in LyX really smaller
than 12 pts even though I think there's documentation saying that it should
be comparable to 12 pt font.

I'll really be grateful for any help with this issue.

Bok

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:31:59 -0400
Bok Young Hoon  wrote:
> I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my
> thesis in 12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt
> font used by other word processors (most notably Microsoft Office).
> When I change the font size in LyX to "Large" 
> 
To change the default font size you should use Document > Settings >
Fonts > Base size > 12. If you need larger default document font size, look at 
article (more font sizes) or similar. 

> it seems to be too
> large (but maybe it's the correct setting if I want to get somethng
> comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does anyone know more about this? Is
> the "normal" size font in LyX really smaller than 12 pts even though
> I think there's documentation saying that it should be comparable to
> 12 pt font.
> 
I think that this depends on the particular font you choose. You may
want to experiment with various fonts in Document > Settings >
Fonts > Roman & Sans Serif until you find something satisfactory. 

Regards
Liviu

Re: help with font size - I need 12 pt font

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

On 2 August 2010 14:31, Bok Young Hoon  wrote:

> Hi
> I need help with the font sizes used by LyX. I need to submit my thesis in
> 12 pt font but this appears to be smaller than the 12 pt font used by other
> word processors (most notably Microsoft Office). When I change the font size
> in LyX to "Large" it seems to be too large (but maybe it's the correct
> setting if I want to get somethng comparable to 12 pt in Office). Does
> anyone know more about this? Is the "normal" size font in LyX really smaller
> than 12 pts even though I think there's documentation saying that it should
> be comparable to 12 pt font.
>

The PDF files generated by LyX are actually generated through the LaTeX
typesetting system. LaTeX uses the "Computer Modern" font by default. This
font has a different overall appearance on paper compared to Times New Roman
of the same point size. However, if you measure the height of the capital M
or most other letters, you will notice that they are mostly the same. A 12
pt font should be a 12 pt font. You can change the font to something else in
the "Document:Settings:Font:Roman" box. For instance, you can choose Time
Roman, which will look very close to using Times New Roman under Office.
However, maybe it is the LaTeX class you are using that redefines the font
internally to something smaller ? Perhaps it does not support the size
options.

What are your document settings (class, default font, font base size,
margins and text layout) ? You should compare these to the Word template
provided by your institution.

I am currently writing my thesis with a school-provided class using the
Times font at 12pt. The output looks nearly identical to the school's Word
template, except for the spacing between sections which is typeset
differently between Word and LaTeX.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)

Re: Help with font size

[Brian Kidd]

Hi Adrian,

You can use the bibfont command if you are using natbib package. Just  
add this ERT command before your bibliography tag.


\newcommand{\bibfont}{\fontsize{9}{12}\selectfont}

The first number is the size and the second is the baseline skip. I'm  
assuming you are using 12pt font for the rest of the document. Note  
that you can also play with the spacing between citations in your  
bibliography section with the bibsep command.


\renewcommand{\bibsep}{0pt}

Cheers,
-Brian

On Nov 27, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Adrian Peter wrote:


Hello,



I am writing a conference paper in Lyx and would like my  
bibliography to be
in 9pt font.  Is there any way to specify this in the Lyx  
document?  Is

there some ERT command I place before and after the 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' tag?  Thank you in advance for the help.



Adrian

Re: Help with font size

[Brian Kidd]

Hi Adrian,

You can use the bibfont command if you are using natbib package. Just  
add this ERT command before your bibliography tag.


\newcommand{\bibfont}{\fontsize{9}{12}\selectfont}

The first number is the size and the second is the baseline skip. I'm  
assuming you are using 12pt font for the rest of the document. Note  
that you can also play with the spacing between citations in your  
bibliography section with the bibsep command.


\renewcommand{\bibsep}{0pt}

Cheers,
-Brian

On Nov 27, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Adrian Peter wrote:


Hello,



I am writing a conference paper in Lyx and would like my  
bibliography to be
in 9pt font.  Is there any way to specify this in the Lyx  
document?  Is

there some ERT command I place before and after the 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' tag?  Thank you in advance for the help.



Adrian

Re: Help with font size

[Brian Kidd]

Hi Adrian,

You can use the bibfont command if you are using natbib package. Just  
add this ERT command before your bibliography tag.


\newcommand{\bibfont}{\fontsize{9}{12}\selectfont}

The first number is the size and the second is the baseline skip. I'm  
assuming you are using 12pt font for the rest of the document. Note  
that you can also play with the spacing between citations in your  
bibliography section with the bibsep command.


\renewcommand{\bibsep}{0pt}

Cheers,
-Brian

On Nov 27, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Adrian Peter wrote:


Hello,



I am writing a conference paper in Lyx and would like my  
bibliography to be
in 9pt font.  Is there any way to specify this in the Lyx  
document?  Is

there some ERT command I place before and after the 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' tag?  Thank you in advance for the help.



Adrian

Help with font size

[Adrian Peter]

Hello,

 

I am writing a conference paper in Lyx and would like my bibliography to be
in 9pt font.  Is there any way to specify this in the Lyx document?  Is
there some ERT command I place before and after the 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' tag?  Thank you in advance for the help.

 

Adrian

   

Help with font size

[Adrian Peter]

Hello,

 

I am writing a conference paper in Lyx and would like my bibliography to be
in 9pt font.  Is there any way to specify this in the Lyx document?  Is
there some ERT command I place before and after the 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' tag?  Thank you in advance for the help.

 

Adrian

   

Help with font size

[Adrian Peter]

Hello,

 

I am writing a conference paper in Lyx and would like my bibliography to be
in 9pt font.  Is there any way to specify this in the Lyx document?  Is
there some ERT command I place before and after the 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' tag?  Thank you in advance for the help.

 

Adrian