Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-13 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller

Fabrice wrote:
 Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
 But i thought another solution should exist.
 It means the whole system will always replace and by et?

It means that those things are hardcoded in the bibtex stylefile, which is 
independent from the language settings in the document.
There are two other options besides editing the stylefile, though:

1. Search for a french stylefile on CTAN (www.ctan.org)

2. Create your own stylefile with custom-bib (which is most likely part of 
your latex installation):
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/custom-bib/

Regards,
Juergen.



Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-13 Thread Roberto Hernandez

Fabrice wrote:
 Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
 But i thought another solution should exist. 
 It means the whole system will always replace and by et?

You could edit the .bst file, in your case it wouldn't be too difficult. 
For example if you're using plain.bst make a local copy in the same 
dir as your document. Name it myplain.bst. Then search for

FUNCTION {format.names}

In the next couple of lines you should find the text  and  (quotes 
included). Just change that to  et . Where you include the 
bibliography style change plain to myplain.

HTH,
Roberto






Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-13 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller

Fabrice wrote:
 Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
 But i thought another solution should exist.
 It means the whole system will always replace and by et?

It means that those things are hardcoded in the bibtex stylefile, which is 
independent from the language settings in the document.
There are two other options besides editing the stylefile, though:

1. Search for a french stylefile on CTAN (www.ctan.org)

2. Create your own stylefile with custom-bib (which is most likely part of 
your latex installation):
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/custom-bib/

Regards,
Juergen.



Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-13 Thread Roberto Hernandez

Fabrice wrote:
 Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
 But i thought another solution should exist. 
 It means the whole system will always replace and by et?

You could edit the .bst file, in your case it wouldn't be too difficult. 
For example if you're using plain.bst make a local copy in the same 
dir as your document. Name it myplain.bst. Then search for

FUNCTION {format.names}

In the next couple of lines you should find the text  and  (quotes 
included). Just change that to  et . Where you include the 
bibliography style change plain to myplain.

HTH,
Roberto






Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-13 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller

Fabrice wrote:
> Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
> But i thought another solution should exist.
> It means the whole system will always replace "and" by "et"?

It means that those things are hardcoded in the bibtex stylefile, which is 
independent from the language settings in the document.
There are two other options besides editing the stylefile, though:

1. Search for a french stylefile on CTAN (www.ctan.org)

2. Create your own stylefile with custom-bib (which is most likely part of 
your latex installation):
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/custom-bib/

Regards,
Juergen.



Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-13 Thread Roberto Hernandez

Fabrice wrote:
> Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
> But i thought another solution should exist. 
> It means the whole system will always replace "and" by "et"?

You could edit the .bst file, in your case it wouldn't be too difficult. 
For example if you're using "plain.bst" make a local copy in the same 
dir as your document. Name it "myplain.bst". Then search for

"FUNCTION {format.names}"

In the next couple of lines you should find the text " and " (quotes 
included). Just change that to " et ". Where you include the 
bibliography style change "plain" to "myplain".

HTH,
Roberto






LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Fabrice

A certainly mostly bibtex oriented question...
from a newbie who is lost in the docs
[lyx-1.1.6fix4 swith debian woody]

How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the and
replaced by a et (in french) in the typo? ex:  
author = {Beltran, Alain and Franck, Robert and Rousso, Henry},
becomes: 
[Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck and Henry Rousso, ...
 *
and i would like: 
[Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck et Henry Rousso, ...
 
It seems not to be enough:
* Language options of the doc are francais
* \usepackage[french]{babel} at the beginning of the bibtex file

Maybe a little ERT like \renewcommand, but what exactly?

And tell me if i'm not wrong: i HAVE TO use and (and not et or
whatever) for bibtex to recognize the entry as a multi-author one?

Thanks for help.

-- 
Fabrice FT



Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Fabrice wrote:

 A certainly mostly bibtex oriented question...
 from a newbie who is lost in the docs
 [lyx-1.1.6fix4 swith debian woody]
 
 How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the and
 replaced by a et (in french) in the typo? ex:  
 author =   {Beltran, Alain and Franck, Robert and Rousso, Henry},
 becomes: 
 [Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck and Henry Rousso, ...
  *
 and i would like: 
 [Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck et Henry Rousso, ...
  
 It seems not to be enough:
 * Language options of the doc are francais
 * \usepackage[french]{babel} at the beginning of the bibtex file
 
 Maybe a little ERT like \renewcommand, but what exactly?
 
 And tell me if i'm not wrong: i HAVE TO use and (and not et or
 whatever) for bibtex to recognize the entry as a multi-author one?


have a look at

http://www.lyx.org/help/bibtex/bibtex.php3#edit

Herbert


-- 
http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Fabrice

Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
But i thought another solution should exist. 
It means the whole system will always replace and by et?

Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
(l'horloge annonçait Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:27:02 +0200):

HV  Fabrice wrote:
HV   How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the
HV   and replaced by a et (in french) in the typo? 
HV 
HV 
HV  have a look at
HV  
HV  http://www.lyx.org/help/bibtex/bibtex.php3#edit
HV  
HV  Herbert
HV  
HV  

-- 
Fabrice
Debian newbie since 2000



LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Fabrice

A certainly mostly bibtex oriented question...
from a newbie who is lost in the docs
[lyx-1.1.6fix4 swith debian woody]

How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the and
replaced by a et (in french) in the typo? ex:  
author = {Beltran, Alain and Franck, Robert and Rousso, Henry},
becomes: 
[Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck and Henry Rousso, ...
 *
and i would like: 
[Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck et Henry Rousso, ...
 
It seems not to be enough:
* Language options of the doc are francais
* \usepackage[french]{babel} at the beginning of the bibtex file

Maybe a little ERT like \renewcommand, but what exactly?

And tell me if i'm not wrong: i HAVE TO use and (and not et or
whatever) for bibtex to recognize the entry as a multi-author one?

Thanks for help.

-- 
Fabrice FT



Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Fabrice wrote:

 A certainly mostly bibtex oriented question...
 from a newbie who is lost in the docs
 [lyx-1.1.6fix4 swith debian woody]
 
 How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the and
 replaced by a et (in french) in the typo? ex:  
 author =   {Beltran, Alain and Franck, Robert and Rousso, Henry},
 becomes: 
 [Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck and Henry Rousso, ...
  *
 and i would like: 
 [Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck et Henry Rousso, ...
  
 It seems not to be enough:
 * Language options of the doc are francais
 * \usepackage[french]{babel} at the beginning of the bibtex file
 
 Maybe a little ERT like \renewcommand, but what exactly?
 
 And tell me if i'm not wrong: i HAVE TO use and (and not et or
 whatever) for bibtex to recognize the entry as a multi-author one?


have a look at

http://www.lyx.org/help/bibtex/bibtex.php3#edit

Herbert


-- 
http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Fabrice

Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
But i thought another solution should exist. 
It means the whole system will always replace and by et?

Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
(l'horloge annonçait Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:27:02 +0200):

HV  Fabrice wrote:
HV   How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the
HV   and replaced by a et (in french) in the typo? 
HV 
HV 
HV  have a look at
HV  
HV  http://www.lyx.org/help/bibtex/bibtex.php3#edit
HV  
HV  Herbert
HV  
HV  

-- 
Fabrice
Debian newbie since 2000



LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Fabrice

A certainly mostly bibtex oriented question...
from a newbie who is lost in the docs
[lyx-1.1.6fix4 swith debian woody]

How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the "and"
replaced by a "et" (in french) in the typo? ex:  
author = {Beltran, Alain and Franck, Robert and Rousso, Henry},
becomes: 
[Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck and Henry Rousso, ...
 *
and i would like: 
[Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck et Henry Rousso, ...
 
It seems not to be enough:
* Language options of the doc are "francais"
* \usepackage[french]{babel} at the beginning of the bibtex file

Maybe a little ERT like \renewcommand, but what exactly?

And tell me if i'm not wrong: i HAVE TO use "and" (and not "et" or
whatever) for bibtex to recognize the entry as a multi-author one?

Thanks for help.

-- 
Fabrice FT



Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Herbert Voss

Fabrice wrote:

> A certainly mostly bibtex oriented question...
> from a newbie who is lost in the docs
> [lyx-1.1.6fix4 swith debian woody]
> 
> How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the "and"
> replaced by a "et" (in french) in the typo? ex:  
> author =   {Beltran, Alain and Franck, Robert and Rousso, Henry},
> becomes: 
> [Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck and Henry Rousso, ...
>  *
> and i would like: 
> [Beltran et al.] Alain Beltran, Robert Franck et Henry Rousso, ...
>  
> It seems not to be enough:
> * Language options of the doc are "francais"
> * \usepackage[french]{babel} at the beginning of the bibtex file
> 
> Maybe a little ERT like \renewcommand, but what exactly?
> 
> And tell me if i'm not wrong: i HAVE TO use "and" (and not "et" or
> whatever) for bibtex to recognize the entry as a multi-author one?


have a look at

http://www.lyx.org/help/bibtex/bibtex.php3#edit

Herbert


-- 
http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: LyX, multiple authors and bibtex

2002-04-12 Thread Fabrice

Thanks, it was exactly what i needed.
But i thought another solution should exist. 
It means the whole system will always replace "and" by "et"?

Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit
(l'horloge annonçait Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:27:02 +0200):

HV > Fabrice wrote:
HV > > How do you do to have, in a bibtex entry with multiple authors, the
HV > > "and" replaced by a "et" (in french) in the typo? 
HV >
HV >
HV > have a look at
HV > 
HV > http://www.lyx.org/help/bibtex/bibtex.php3#edit
HV > 
HV > Herbert
HV > 
HV > 

-- 
Fabrice
Debian newbie since 2000