Re: [Getting a bit OT] Re: PDF looks good
Matej Cepl schrieb:
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:13:17AM +0200, Robin Turner wrote:
Am I alone in liking the lightness of Computer Modern? I often print
out CM documents at 600dpi and I like the almost ethereal quality. In
Etheral quality is somehow heavy on my eyes (although my eyesight
is perfect), so that I have in my preamble as default
\usepackage{mathpazo,helvet,courier}
mathptmx-helvet
or
mathpazo - palatino
are better combinations.
Herbert
Re: [Getting a bit OT] Re: PDF looks good
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:13:17AM +0200, Robin Turner wrote:
> Am I alone in liking the lightness of Computer Modern? I often print
> out CM documents at 600dpi and I like the almost ethereal quality. In
Etheral quality is somehow heavy on my eyes (although my eyesight
is perfect), so that I have in my preamble as default
\usepackage{mathpazo,helvet,courier}
(BTW, will be this combination sometime part of
Layout/Document/Fonts dialog box?).
Matej
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Re: [Getting a bit OT] Re: PDF looks good
> so the requirements are different). Call me a Knuth fanatic, but CM > is still the most aesthetically pleasing font I've ever seen (I'm not Couldn't agree more with you Robin.. and CM is the only font I use.. cos the output on screen is great and cos I can live with the lighter output on my 600 DPI printer.. but it just seems so much better (to me at least) when I print out the same document on a 1200 DPI printer at school.. Related info: I contacted the developer of the cm-super package and he liked the idea of generating slightly darker cm-super fonts.. said he'll try to implement it sometime early next year.. I'd been able to generate darker output by changing the metafont mode and regenerating the fonts.. that was on my windows machine in cygwin.. for some mysterious reason the same approach isn't working on my Linux machine.. :-( nirmal
Re: [Getting a bit OT] Re: PDF looks good
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:13:17AM +0200, Robin Turner wrote: > Nirmal Govind wrote: > >>Or install the cm-super fonts, an (almost) complete type 1 replacement > >>of the computer modern fonts: > >>http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/cm-super/ > >> > >>Jürgen. > >> > > > > > >I just did this (warning: cm-super package is a pretty big file ~ 65MB > >in rpm format) and yes, the PDF output on screen is a lot better.. > >however, in print, they still are a bit too light just like the CM > >fonts.. I wish they would release a 600DPI compatible version of these > >fonts. > > > Am I alone in liking the lightness of Computer Modern? I often print > out CM documents at 600dpi and I like the almost ethereal quality. In > contrast, I recently PDFed a Word document in Times New Roman because I > couldn't be bothered to do the reformatting necessary to import-export > it through LyX (wv doesn't handle tables terribly well). I found the > output really heavy and black (to be fair, times new Roman is a copy of > Times Roman, which is a newspaper font, not a book font, so the > requirements are different). Call me a Knuth fanatic, but CM is still > the most aesthetically pleasing font I've ever seen (I'm not talking > about fancy fonts here, though I wish Knuth had done a version of > half-uncial). > > Robin No, you're not alone. I like CM too. Best regards, ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | "crown of her husband" | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
[Getting a bit OT] Re: PDF looks good
Nirmal Govind wrote: Or install the cm-super fonts, an (almost) complete type 1 replacement of the computer modern fonts: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/cm-super/ Jürgen. I just did this (warning: cm-super package is a pretty big file ~ 65MB in rpm format) and yes, the PDF output on screen is a lot better.. however, in print, they still are a bit too light just like the CM fonts.. I wish they would release a 600DPI compatible version of these fonts. Am I alone in liking the lightness of Computer Modern? I often print out CM documents at 600dpi and I like the almost ethereal quality. In contrast, I recently PDFed a Word document in Times New Roman because I couldn't be bothered to do the reformatting necessary to import-export it through LyX (wv doesn't handle tables terribly well). I found the output really heavy and black (to be fair, times new Roman is a copy of Times Roman, which is a newspaper font, not a book font, so the requirements are different). Call me a Knuth fanatic, but CM is still the most aesthetically pleasing font I've ever seen (I'm not talking about fancy fonts here, though I wish Knuth had done a version of half-uncial). Robin -- "A free man ought not to learn anything under duress. Compulsory physical exercise does no harm to the body, but compulsory learning never sticks in the mind." - Plato Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
Re: PDF looks good
> Or install the cm-super fonts, an (almost) complete type 1 replacement > of the computer modern fonts: > http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/cm-super/ > > Jürgen. > I just did this (warning: cm-super package is a pretty big file ~ 65MB in rpm format) and yes, the PDF output on screen is a lot better.. however, in print, they still are a bit too light just like the CM fonts.. I wish they would release a 600DPI compatible version of these fonts. nirmal
Re: PDF looks good
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:13:30AM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 07:53:18PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > > pslatex is obsolete! > > I wonder whether we should set up some article layout > especially for .pdf generation. Remembering which package is > prefered and which is obsolete is a bit tricky. I wonder whether plainTeX is obsolete. I believe that whatever works to my wishes is obsolete just because somebody doesn't like it. Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP ID# D96484AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America. -- Alexis de Tocqueville
Re: PDF looks good
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 07:53:18PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > pslatex is obsolete! I wonder whether we should set up some article layout especially for .pdf generation. Remembering which package is prefered and which is obsolete is a bit tricky. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: PDF looks good
Herbert Voss wrote:
> pslatex is obsolete!
> use instead
>
> \usepackage{mathptmx}% instead of package times
> \usepackage[scaled=0.9]{helvet} % or [scaled=0.92], if you like
>
> or
>
> \usepackage{mathpazo};
> \usepackage{palatino};
Or install the cm-super fonts, an (almost) complete type 1 replacement of the
computer modern fonts:
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/cm-super/
Jürgen.
Re: PDF looks good
Kayvan A. Sylvan schrieb:
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 11:20:38AM -0300, German Poo Caaman~o wrote:
El mié, 06-11-2002 a las 11:05, Pierre Lescanne escribió:
In the extended manual, several tricks are suggested to get good
displays in Acroread. I tried them, none worked. However since I use
times font, I have included in the preamble, \usepackage{times} it
works pretty fine. This could be suggested in the documentation.
\usepackage{pslatex}
works fine. I don't know if it is in the extended manual.
You can also just set the fonts in the Layout->Document dialog to
"pslatex"
pslatex is obsolete!
use instead
\usepackage{mathptmx}% instead of package times
\usepackage[scaled=0.9]{helvet} % or [scaled=0.92], if you like
or
\usepackage{mathpazo};
\usepackage{palatino};
Herbert
Re: PDF looks good
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 11:20:38AM -0300, German Poo Caaman~o wrote:
> El mié, 06-11-2002 a las 11:05, Pierre Lescanne escribió:
> > In the extended manual, several tricks are suggested to get good
> > displays in Acroread. I tried them, none worked. However since I use
> > times font, I have included in the preamble, \usepackage{times} it
> > works pretty fine. This could be suggested in the documentation.
>
> \usepackage{pslatex}
>
> works fine. I don't know if it is in the extended manual.
You can also just set the fonts in the Layout->Document dialog to
"pslatex"
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Re: PDF looks good
El mié, 06-11-2002 a las 11:05, Pierre Lescanne escribió:
> In the extended manual, several tricks are suggested to get good
> displays in Acroread. I tried them, none worked. However since I use
> times font, I have included in the preamble, \usepackage{times} it
> works pretty fine. This could be suggested in the documentation.
\usepackage{pslatex}
works fine. I don't know if it is in the extended manual.
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PDF looks good
In the extended manual, several tricks are suggested to get good
displays in Acroread. I tried them, none worked. However since I use
times font, I have included in the preamble, \usepackage{times} it
works pretty fine. This could be suggested in the documentation.
Pierre
