Re: Problems printing and exporting
rh, Thanx for answering, eventhough you didn't give me straight answers (most likely cos my questions were all over the place) I think that having several TeX might be what confuses my lyx. I assume that uninstalling them (including Lyx) and then installing one TeX and Lyx should solve most of the problems. regarding the message: \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. it pops up either when I want to print, or when I want to see de DVI even when I want to export to PDF... So other than what I see on screen I have no idea of how my docs look like. at times it says that my printer is not install properly but so far I haven't had any problems printing from any other software. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:35 AM, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M-L wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for --} me. I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. And I do the same sort of thing: ViewDVI, and then print from your DVI viewer. I want to see the thing before I print it anyway, so this isn't an extra step. rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
Rene Maya wrote: rh, Thanx for answering, eventhough you didn't give me straight answers (most likely cos my questions were all over the place) I think that having several TeX might be what confuses my lyx. I assume that uninstalling them (including Lyx) and then installing one TeX and Lyx should solve most of the problems. Very possibly that is the problem. Uninstall LyX and all your TeX stuff, and then JUST install LyX. Kubuntu should pull in the dependencies automatically. I.e., it should install TeX for you and configure everything. If not, well, try Fedora. ;-) rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
rh, Thanx for answering, eventhough you didn't give me straight answers (most likely cos my questions were all over the place) I think that having several TeX might be what confuses my lyx. I assume that uninstalling them (including Lyx) and then installing one TeX and Lyx should solve most of the problems. regarding the message: \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. it pops up either when I want to print, or when I want to see de DVI even when I want to export to PDF... So other than what I see on screen I have no idea of how my docs look like. at times it says that my printer is not install properly but so far I haven't had any problems printing from any other software. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:35 AM, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M-L wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for --} me. I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. And I do the same sort of thing: ViewDVI, and then print from your DVI viewer. I want to see the thing before I print it anyway, so this isn't an extra step. rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
Rene Maya wrote: rh, Thanx for answering, eventhough you didn't give me straight answers (most likely cos my questions were all over the place) I think that having several TeX might be what confuses my lyx. I assume that uninstalling them (including Lyx) and then installing one TeX and Lyx should solve most of the problems. Very possibly that is the problem. Uninstall LyX and all your TeX stuff, and then JUST install LyX. Kubuntu should pull in the dependencies automatically. I.e., it should install TeX for you and configure everything. If not, well, try Fedora. ;-) rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
rh, Thanx for answering, eventhough you didn't give me straight answers (most likely cos my questions were all over the place) I think that having several TeX might be what confuses my lyx. I assume that uninstalling them (including Lyx) and then installing one TeX and Lyx should solve most of the problems. regarding the message: \makeatother > The control sequence at the end of the top line > of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have > misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct > spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, > and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. it pops up either when I want to print, or when I want to see de DVI even when I want to export to PDF... So other than what I see on screen I have no idea of how my docs look like. at times it says that my printer is not install properly but so far I haven't had any problems printing from any other software. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:35 AM, rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > M-L wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: > > > >> --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working > with > >> Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty > much > >> useless for --} me. > >> > > > > I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain > that I > > know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but > obviously > > you need to know a little about what you need to print. > > > > You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another > packages > > as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to > a > > PDF. > > > > > And I do the same sort of thing: View>DVI, and then print from your DVI > viewer. I want to see the thing before I print it anyway, so this isn't > an extra step. > > rh > >
Re: Problems printing and exporting
Rene Maya wrote: rh, Thanx for answering, eventhough you didn't give me straight answers (most likely cos my questions were all over the place) I think that having several TeX might be what confuses my lyx. I assume that uninstalling them (including Lyx) and then installing one TeX and Lyx should solve most of the problems. Very possibly that is the problem. Uninstall LyX and all your TeX stuff, and then JUST install LyX. Kubuntu should pull in the dependencies automatically. I.e., it should install TeX for you and configure everything. If not, well, try Fedora. ;-) rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
Rene Maya wrote: Hi there, Well I've been reading/studying the guides that come together with Lyx, and so far I think it's a great piece of software, there is a but, though, not only I'm a newbie to Lyx but also to Linux, specifically to Kubuntu. and I found really hard to keep up how to install and set up everything, the worst part is that you don't even bother saying it! you go as far as saying something like in this tutorial we are going to assume that Lyx is working perfectly (why would it?) as well as LaTeX, xdvi, dvips and then you say that if this is not the case then I'll have to do it by myself (!?). This is supposed to be handled for you by Kubuntu: When you install LyX, the Kubuntu package manager should install everything that is necessary to get LyX working correctly. If it's not doing that, then that is a problem with Kubuntu, not with LyX. I believe that stuff like this is what pushes people away from using great open source software... specially newbies like me. I know... we can always google anything but it seems that even though there is an official website for dvips, you can't download it from them, it only says download reliable TeX software, it should be included there... why don't you include everything that Lyx needs to be perfect?? First, because there isn't actually such a thing. Take TeX for example. There are many distributions of TeX, and on Linux there are two that are very widely used: tetex, which is actually unmaintained now but is still used in Fedora 8, and TeXLive, which is found in many new distributions. You might have had one of these installed before LyX was installed, in which case LyX doesn't need to install TeX, and in fact doing so might mess up your existing installation. Moreover, as Helge often likes to point out, you don't need TeX installed at all to use LyX, if all you want to do is edit files and not view or print them. (That might seem like a weird thing to want to do, but suppose you have an old laptop and underpowered you carry around when you travel. It's not your main machine.) And you don't actually need xdvi, or dvips. You can use kdvi to view DVI files, and you only need dvips to generate PostScript. So maybe you don't want those. Etc, etc, etc. But the more important thing, again, is that these are issues that, under the Linux model, are supposed to be handled by distributions, like Kubuntu. We just write LyX, and it is again part of the Linux model that we are allowed to assume that users will have the other pieces needed to make the software work. Getting those other pieces is up to you---but, in reality, up to your distribution. So you ought to have been able to download LyX from the Kubuntu package manager---or do apt-get install lyx from a terminal---and have everything that you needed. If not, file a bug with them. then there seems to be a way to link all these pieces of software, that is, make them work together, but never mention how to do that... I'm not sure what you mean here. Now regarding exporting and printing... in every single document I've made with Lyx If I try to do one or the other a message like this pops up... \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Do you get this message when you ViewDVI? rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
M-L wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for --} me. I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. And I do the same sort of thing: ViewDVI, and then print from your DVI viewer. I want to see the thing before I print it anyway, so this isn't an extra step. rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
Rene Maya wrote: Hi there, Well I've been reading/studying the guides that come together with Lyx, and so far I think it's a great piece of software, there is a but, though, not only I'm a newbie to Lyx but also to Linux, specifically to Kubuntu. and I found really hard to keep up how to install and set up everything, the worst part is that you don't even bother saying it! you go as far as saying something like in this tutorial we are going to assume that Lyx is working perfectly (why would it?) as well as LaTeX, xdvi, dvips and then you say that if this is not the case then I'll have to do it by myself (!?). This is supposed to be handled for you by Kubuntu: When you install LyX, the Kubuntu package manager should install everything that is necessary to get LyX working correctly. If it's not doing that, then that is a problem with Kubuntu, not with LyX. I believe that stuff like this is what pushes people away from using great open source software... specially newbies like me. I know... we can always google anything but it seems that even though there is an official website for dvips, you can't download it from them, it only says download reliable TeX software, it should be included there... why don't you include everything that Lyx needs to be perfect?? First, because there isn't actually such a thing. Take TeX for example. There are many distributions of TeX, and on Linux there are two that are very widely used: tetex, which is actually unmaintained now but is still used in Fedora 8, and TeXLive, which is found in many new distributions. You might have had one of these installed before LyX was installed, in which case LyX doesn't need to install TeX, and in fact doing so might mess up your existing installation. Moreover, as Helge often likes to point out, you don't need TeX installed at all to use LyX, if all you want to do is edit files and not view or print them. (That might seem like a weird thing to want to do, but suppose you have an old laptop and underpowered you carry around when you travel. It's not your main machine.) And you don't actually need xdvi, or dvips. You can use kdvi to view DVI files, and you only need dvips to generate PostScript. So maybe you don't want those. Etc, etc, etc. But the more important thing, again, is that these are issues that, under the Linux model, are supposed to be handled by distributions, like Kubuntu. We just write LyX, and it is again part of the Linux model that we are allowed to assume that users will have the other pieces needed to make the software work. Getting those other pieces is up to you---but, in reality, up to your distribution. So you ought to have been able to download LyX from the Kubuntu package manager---or do apt-get install lyx from a terminal---and have everything that you needed. If not, file a bug with them. then there seems to be a way to link all these pieces of software, that is, make them work together, but never mention how to do that... I'm not sure what you mean here. Now regarding exporting and printing... in every single document I've made with Lyx If I try to do one or the other a message like this pops up... \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Do you get this message when you ViewDVI? rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
M-L wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for --} me. I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. And I do the same sort of thing: ViewDVI, and then print from your DVI viewer. I want to see the thing before I print it anyway, so this isn't an extra step. rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
Rene Maya wrote: Hi there, Well I've been reading/studying the guides that come together with Lyx, and so far I think it's a great piece of software, there is a but, though, not only I'm a newbie to Lyx but also to Linux, specifically to Kubuntu. and I found really hard to keep up how to install and set up everything, the worst part is that you don't even bother saying it! you go as far as saying something like "in this tutorial we are going to assume that Lyx is working perfectly (why would it?) as well as LaTeX, xdvi, dvips" and then you say that if this is not the case then I'll have to do it by myself (!?). This is supposed to be handled for you by Kubuntu: When you install LyX, the Kubuntu package manager should install everything that is necessary to get LyX working correctly. If it's not doing that, then that is a problem with Kubuntu, not with LyX. I believe that stuff like this is what pushes people away from using great open source software... specially newbies like me. I know... we can always google anything but it seems that even though there is an official website for dvips, you can't download it from them, it only says "download reliable TeX software, it should be included there"... why don't you include everything that Lyx needs to be perfect?? First, because there isn't actually such a thing. Take TeX for example. There are many "distributions" of TeX, and on Linux there are two that are very widely used: tetex, which is actually unmaintained now but is still used in Fedora 8, and TeXLive, which is found in many new distributions. You might have had one of these installed before LyX was installed, in which case LyX doesn't need to install TeX, and in fact doing so might mess up your existing installation. Moreover, as Helge often likes to point out, you don't need TeX installed at all to use LyX, if all you want to do is edit files and not view or print them. (That might seem like a weird thing to want to do, but suppose you have an old laptop and underpowered you carry around when you travel. It's not your main machine.) And you don't actually need xdvi, or dvips. You can use kdvi to view DVI files, and you only need dvips to generate PostScript. So maybe you don't want those. Etc, etc, etc. But the more important thing, again, is that these are issues that, under the Linux model, are supposed to be handled by distributions, like Kubuntu. We just write LyX, and it is again part of the Linux model that we are allowed to assume that users will have the other pieces needed to make the software work. Getting those other pieces is up to you---but, in reality, up to your distribution. So you ought to have been able to download LyX from the Kubuntu package manager---or do apt-get install lyx from a terminal---and have everything that you needed. If not, file a bug with them. then there seems to be a way to link all these pieces of software, that is, make them work together, but never mention how to do that... I'm not sure what you mean here. Now regarding exporting and printing... in every single document I've made with Lyx If I try to do one or the other a message like this pops up... \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Do you get this message when you View>DVI? rh
Re: Problems printing and exporting
M-L wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for --} me. I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. And I do the same sort of thing: View>DVI, and then print from your DVI viewer. I want to see the thing before I print it anyway, so this isn't an extra step. rh
Problems printing and exporting
Hi there, Well I've been reading/studying the guides that come together with Lyx, and so far I think it's a great piece of software, there is a but, though, not only I'm a newbie to Lyx but also to Linux, specifically to Kubuntu. and I found really hard to keep up how to install and set up everything, the worst part is that you don't even bother saying it! you go as far as saying something like in this tutorial we are going to assume that Lyx is working perfectly (why would it?) as well as LaTeX, xdvi, dvips and then you say that if this is not the case then I'll have to do it by myself (!?). I believe that stuff like this is what pushes people away from using great open source software... specially newbies like me. I know... we can always google anything but it seems that even though there is an official website for dvips, you can't download it from them, it only says download reliable TeX software, it should be included there... why don't you include everything that Lyx needs to be perfect?? then there seems to be a way to link all these pieces of software, that is, make them work together, but never mention how to do that... Now regarding exporting and printing... in every single document I've made with Lyx If I try to do one or the other a message like this pops up... \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Then I read somewhere else that if I was able to print from any other piece of software I should be able to print without any problem from Lyx, and that is not the case, every single time after showing me the above message then it tells me that my printer hasn't been installed properly, oddly enough I have no problems printing from any other software. I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for me. keep up the good work René
Re: Problems printing and exporting
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for --} me. Hello René, I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. You won't see a .pdf file if you don't have a PDF viewer installed, so again something like xpdf will do the trick. Once installed Lyx will probably find it if you close down or reconfigure first and close it down. Linux philosophy is an operating system that doesn't just install everything, but you can if you want. It is an operating system where you may exercise choice. Not a great deal is forced on you even in Kubuntu/Ubuntu, so you install what you think you need or want, or everything that's available if you have the harddrive space and don't worry about the security issues. Then everything will work. Very few people choose the road to bloated bother, and rather just install things as they are required. So you will have to make choices and install what you want/need. That's pretty normal when you need to make a choice in life and just like in life you need to look about to see what's available to perform the task. Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ** Life is an adventure in forgiveness. NORMAN COUSINS Debian - Just the best way to do magic.
Problems printing and exporting
Hi there, Well I've been reading/studying the guides that come together with Lyx, and so far I think it's a great piece of software, there is a but, though, not only I'm a newbie to Lyx but also to Linux, specifically to Kubuntu. and I found really hard to keep up how to install and set up everything, the worst part is that you don't even bother saying it! you go as far as saying something like in this tutorial we are going to assume that Lyx is working perfectly (why would it?) as well as LaTeX, xdvi, dvips and then you say that if this is not the case then I'll have to do it by myself (!?). I believe that stuff like this is what pushes people away from using great open source software... specially newbies like me. I know... we can always google anything but it seems that even though there is an official website for dvips, you can't download it from them, it only says download reliable TeX software, it should be included there... why don't you include everything that Lyx needs to be perfect?? then there seems to be a way to link all these pieces of software, that is, make them work together, but never mention how to do that... Now regarding exporting and printing... in every single document I've made with Lyx If I try to do one or the other a message like this pops up... \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Then I read somewhere else that if I was able to print from any other piece of software I should be able to print without any problem from Lyx, and that is not the case, every single time after showing me the above message then it tells me that my printer hasn't been installed properly, oddly enough I have no problems printing from any other software. I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for me. keep up the good work René
Re: Problems printing and exporting
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: --} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for --} me. Hello René, I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. You won't see a .pdf file if you don't have a PDF viewer installed, so again something like xpdf will do the trick. Once installed Lyx will probably find it if you close down or reconfigure first and close it down. Linux philosophy is an operating system that doesn't just install everything, but you can if you want. It is an operating system where you may exercise choice. Not a great deal is forced on you even in Kubuntu/Ubuntu, so you install what you think you need or want, or everything that's available if you have the harddrive space and don't worry about the security issues. Then everything will work. Very few people choose the road to bloated bother, and rather just install things as they are required. So you will have to make choices and install what you want/need. That's pretty normal when you need to make a choice in life and just like in life you need to look about to see what's available to perform the task. Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ** Life is an adventure in forgiveness. NORMAN COUSINS Debian - Just the best way to do magic.
Problems printing and exporting
Hi there, Well I've been reading/studying the guides that come together with Lyx, and so far I think it's a great piece of software, there is a but, though, not only I'm a newbie to Lyx but also to Linux, specifically to Kubuntu. and I found really hard to keep up how to install and set up everything, the worst part is that you don't even bother saying it! you go as far as saying something like "in this tutorial we are going to assume that Lyx is working perfectly (why would it?) as well as LaTeX, xdvi, dvips" and then you say that if this is not the case then I'll have to do it by myself (!?). I believe that stuff like this is what pushes people away from using great open source software... specially newbies like me. I know... we can always google anything but it seems that even though there is an official website for dvips, you can't download it from them, it only says "download reliable TeX software, it should be included there"... why don't you include everything that Lyx needs to be perfect?? then there seems to be a way to link all these pieces of software, that is, make them work together, but never mention how to do that... Now regarding exporting and printing... in every single document I've made with Lyx If I try to do one or the other a message like this pops up... \makeatother The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Then I read somewhere else that if I was able to print from any other piece of software I should be able to print without any problem from Lyx, and that is not the case, every single time after showing me the above message then it tells me that my printer hasn't been installed properly, oddly enough I have no problems printing from any other software. I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with Lyx, but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much useless for me. keep up the good work René
Re: Problems printing and exporting
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Rene Maya shared this with us all: >--} I hope that you can help me because I actually really like working with > Lyx, --} but then again if I can't make pdf or print then is pretty much > useless for --} me. Hello René, I can feel the frustration that we have all felt, and I am not certain that I know enough about Kubuntu or Ubuntu to write anything helpful, but obviously you need to know a little about what you need to print. You need the gs package to print from LyX, but you may need another packages as well. I actually print from xpdf or kpdf after converting the file to a PDF. You won't see a .pdf file if you don't have a PDF viewer installed, so again something like xpdf will do the trick. Once installed Lyx will probably find it if you close down or reconfigure first and close it down. Linux philosophy is an operating system that doesn't just install everything, but you can if you want. It is an operating system where you may exercise choice. Not a great deal is forced on you even in Kubuntu/Ubuntu, so you install what you think you need or want, or everything that's available if you have the harddrive space and don't worry about the security issues. Then everything will work. Very few people choose the road to bloated bother, and rather just install things as they are required. So you will have to make choices and install what you want/need. That's pretty normal when you need to make a choice in life and just like in life you need to look about to see what's available to perform the task. Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ** Life is an adventure in forgiveness. NORMAN COUSINS <<<>>> Debian - Just the best way to do magic.
