Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
These three books would seem to be the same book. I bought the"Self Publishing on LULU" book a few weeks ago, and have just bought the "Got Lyx? It does writing good" (whatever that means) as it has a sub title on writing research papers etc. However, the latter book is just the former book with the chapters on designing a cover and publishing on LULU omitted. I was rather hoping for more on citations, inserting equations, and features specific to writing up research. I assume the Amazon version will be identical to the LULU version but with an Amazon chapter. I still think they are useful books for their intended market. Graham Jeremy C. Reed wrote: Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on). And I found a few other books too: http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620 http://www.lulu.com/content/983754 Has anyone here read any of those? I don't recall them mentioned on this list. Jeremy C. Reed __ NOD32 2514 (20070908) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- Graham M Smith Station Cottage Tel:01749 840631 Station RoadFax:0870 1322773 Binegar Mobile: 07971 177623 nr Radstock Somerset BA3 4UQ Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.myotis.co.uk Information contained in this e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only, and may be confidential or privileged. If you receive this message in error, please advise me immediately. If you are not the intended recipient(s), any form of distribution, copying, or use of information gained as a result of this communication is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. Attachments to this e-mail may contain software viruses that could damage your systems. I have taken reasonable precautions to minimise this risk, but you are advised that any attachments should be virus checked before opening.
Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
Mmmm, yes the review does sound a bit unlikely, but I have downloaded the book any way to have a look at it. Graham Nicolás wrote: I have not taken a look at these books, so I do not know if they are good or not. I just found funny the review for this book: http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 It smells a little bit fake to me, do not you agree? According to the review, the son installed LyX, learnt to use it, and converted his MS-Word-based PhD thesis into a LyX document in one night! Impressive! Cheers, Nicolás Graham Smith wrote: I bought the copy on publishing for LULU (I didn't realise there were two other options) The style is very different to Alan's book, with detailed hand holding instructions on installing Lyx, Gimp etc.more screen grabs, and step by step menu paths The focus on Windows is appropriate because the feel of the book is that it is written to encourage people who have never used anything other than Windows/Word to have a go AND take you by the hand every step of the way. Graham Jeremy C. Reed wrote: Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on). And I found a few other books too: http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620 http://www.lulu.com/content/983754 Has anyone here read any of those? I don't recall them mentioned on this list. Jeremy C. Reed __ NOD32 2514 (20070908) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2514 (20070908) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- Graham M Smith Station Cottage Tel:01749 840631 Station RoadFax:0870 1322773 Binegar Mobile: 07971 177623 nr Radstock Somerset BA3 4UQ Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.myotis.co.uk Information contained in this e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only, and may be confidential or privileged. If you receive this message in error, please advise me immediately. If you are not the intended recipient(s), any form of distribution, copying, or use of information gained as a result of this communication is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. Attachments to this e-mail may contain software viruses that could damage your systems. I have taken reasonable precautions to minimise this risk, but you are advised that any attachments should be virus checked before opening.
Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
I have not taken a look at these books, so I do not know if they are good or not. I just found funny the review for this book: http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 It smells a little bit fake to me, do not you agree? According to the review, the son installed LyX, learnt to use it, and converted his MS-Word-based PhD thesis into a LyX document in one night! Impressive! Cheers, Nicolás Graham Smith wrote: I bought the copy on publishing for LULU (I didn't realise there were two other options) The style is very different to Alan's book, with detailed hand holding instructions on installing Lyx, Gimp etc.more screen grabs, and step by step menu paths The focus on Windows is appropriate because the feel of the book is that it is written to encourage people who have never used anything other than Windows/Word to have a go AND take you by the hand every step of the way. Graham Jeremy C. Reed wrote: Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on). And I found a few other books too: http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620 http://www.lulu.com/content/983754 Has anyone here read any of those? I don't recall them mentioned on this list. Jeremy C. Reed __ NOD32 2514 (20070908) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
I bought the copy on publishing for LULU (I didn't realise there were two other options) The style is very different to Alan's book, with detailed hand holding instructions on installing Lyx, Gimp etc.more screen grabs, and step by step menu paths The focus on Windows is appropriate because the feel of the book is that it is written to encourage people who have never used anything other than Windows/Word to have a go AND take you by the hand every step of the way. Graham Jeremy C. Reed wrote: Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on). And I found a few other books too: http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620 http://www.lulu.com/content/983754 Has anyone here read any of those? I don't recall them mentioned on this list. Jeremy C. Reed __ NOD32 2514 (20070908) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- Graham M Smith Station Cottage Tel:01749 840631 Station RoadFax:0870 1322773 Binegar Mobile: 07971 177623 nr Radstock Somerset BA3 4UQ Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.myotis.co.uk Information contained in this e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only, and may be confidential or privileged. If you receive this message in error, please advise me immediately. If you are not the intended recipient(s), any form of distribution, copying, or use of information gained as a result of this communication is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. Attachments to this e-mail may contain software viruses that could damage your systems. I have taken reasonable precautions to minimise this risk, but you are advised that any attachments should be virus checked before opening.
Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
On Friday 07 September 2007 22:56, Les Denham wrote: > On Friday 07 September 2007 18:21, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the > > http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on). > > > > And I found a few other books too: > > > > http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 > > http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620 > > http://www.lulu.com/content/983754 > > > > Has anyone here read any of those? > > Jeremy, > > These appear to be three different versions of the same book, one which > covers a lot of the same material as Alan's. However, it is written by > someone whose native language is not English, who has not mastered the > language. It is also written solely for Windows users (which many readers > may find an advantage, but which I find strange). > > Les Hi Les, How do you know for sure the books have major overlap or that they cover what Alan's does? SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
On Friday 07 September 2007 18:21, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the > http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on). > > And I found a few other books too: > > http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 > http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620 > http://www.lulu.com/content/983754 > > Has anyone here read any of those? > Jeremy, These appear to be three different versions of the same book, one which covers a lot of the same material as Alan's. However, it is written by someone whose native language is not English, who has not mastered the language. It is also written solely for Windows users (which many readers may find an advantage, but which I find strange). Les
other LyX books at lulu (Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
Today, I search lulu for Alan's book (so I could send the http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 link to a list I am on). And I found a few other books too: http://www.lulu.com/content/1165817 http://www.lulu.com/content/1097620 http://www.lulu.com/content/983754 Has anyone here read any of those? I don't recall them mentioned on this list. Jeremy C. Reed
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:43:51 +0200 Yegor Yefremov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Typhoon wrote: > > "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or > > as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > > http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > > > Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed > > at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or > > OpenOffice. > > > > But, any feedback appreciated. > > > > Cheers, > > Alan > > > > Great book! Thanks! > > I've found one small typo: page 43 "Handcrafting the title pages" the > third line. after Document you have -> and then an arrow. > Thanks for that Yegor. Cheers, Alan > Cheers, > Yegor >
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Typhoon wrote: "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or OpenOffice. But, any feedback appreciated. Cheers, Alan Great book! Thanks! I've found one small typo: page 43 "Handcrafting the title pages" the third line. after Document you have -> and then an arrow. Cheers, Yegor
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Typhoon wrote:
I have recompiled it with \usepackage{lmodern} as suggested earlier.
Could you, and others with problems, download it from
http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf and report the results?
It now looks much better on my system. Thanks!
Regards,
Walter
microtype package and hanging punctuation (was: Re: Self-publishing with LyX)
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Helge Hafting wrote:
> William Adams wrote:
> >
> > - use pdftex and the microtype package and hanging punctuation?
> When I do this on A4 text, I go from 1-3 hyphens per page
> to about 3 pages per hyphen. :-) Useful indeed.
I am reading the Micro-Typography with PDFTeX (microtype.dvi file) but it
only mentions "hanging punctuation" one time in the second paragraph: "A
simplified employment of margin kerning is hanging punctuation." (And I
didn't see anywhere else in the document.)
What does the "hanging punctuation" mean? A punctuation extending into
margin?
Does anything special have to be done for "hanging punctuation"? Or just
\usepackage{microtype} does the "hanging punctuation"?
Jeremy C. Reed
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
William Adams wrote: - use pdftex and the microtype package and hanging punctuation? When I do this on A4 text, I go from 1-3 hyphens per page to about 3 pages per hyphen. :-) Useful indeed. Helge Hafting
Self-publishing with LyX - thanks for the feedback
Dear everyone,
Thanks very much to all who have given me comments on the book, both
on-list and off. Very much appreciated, and I will make suggested
amendments as time goes on.
To clarify availability:
Printed and download versions available from Lulu:
http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870
Download version available from: http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf
Both are now the same, compiled with \usepackage{lmodern}.
I apologise to community members who took exception to Lulu's
requirements of registration, etc. I never noticed it since I have an
account there anyway.
And special thanks to the developers of LyX. You guys are terrific!
Cheers,
Alan
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:14, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > [clip] > > Page 28 need a period and space before "Here". > > Jeremy -- how do you see and remember things like that. Do you proofread > professionally? If so, how much do you charge? I see it from practice :) I went to journalism school and we practiced in classes. (And I tried to report every error in our school newspaper.) And I've helped edit probably a couple thousand pages of books and documentation. Sometimes I do it professionally. I don't know what to charge though as I have charged in the past based on my open source Unix consulting rate. I have also paid for book editing. But I don't know what it broke down to hourly. > [clip] > > p.s. I recently read Shepard's book. Your book is a good supplement to it. > > What is Shepard's book? This new LyX book has it in referenced. It is "Aiming at Amazon". Jeremy C. Reed
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Mostly this is commentary on the default LaTeX settings, but more
feedback:
- pg. xvi should be truly blank (no need for a folio) --- ditto for
xviii &c.
- Synch .pdf page numbers w/ those used in the text --- either re-
set the page numbering so that roman numerals are used for the pdf
page numbering, or since it's only going to be electronically set
from an entire file, renumber using Arabic numerals from the
beginning --- this latter would mean that Chapter 1 would start on
pg. 21
- pg. 1 --- ``If you sent it to a professional publisher, and if it
were
accepted for publication, it would be edited by a professional
editor, made into a book by a professional designer and set into
type by a professional typesetter.''
I'd say ``...designed by a professional book designer...'' instead
--- in general, they don't make books, only a layout sample and a set
of specifications.
- pg. 2 --- the quote block has an overfull first line --- set it
w/ no indent?
- pg. 3 --- _four_ hyphens in a row! Set the quoted material
smaller or don't indent it so much
- pg. 4 --- I know some professionals who do enjoy indexing
- pg. 6 & 7 --- list separated from preceding text --- run chapter
(or preceding spread) short or make other adjustment to get at least
two lines from pg. 6 onto pg. 7
- pg. 15 --- two word stack on lines 7 and 8
- pgs. 18 & 19 --- don't allow a colon to fall at the bottom of a
page, separated from the material it precedes
- pg. 24 --- Figure captions are indistinguishable from text ---
set them off somehow
- pg. 25 --- I strongly disagree w/ the recommendation to resample
screen graphics --- see previous discussion on this list
- pg. 28 --- use typographer's, not shilling fraction
- pg. 28 --- don't break between page number and identifier ``page~
\pageref{whatever}
- pg. 29 --- please don't overbox tables --- see the booktabs
documentation for a discussion of this and a good toolkit for setting
nice tables.
- pg. 30 --- please have at least 6 or 7 lines on the last page ---
run the chapter short by a line, or the previous spread long to fix this
- pg. 41 --- (and elsewhere) don't allow a figure to float on a
page like that --- tighten up the preceding text or slightly adjust
the figures to make them fit where they fall.
Throughout:
- use pdftex and the microtype package and hanging punctuation?
- clean up the edges of your screen grabs --- the first one has a
black line to the left, others don't
- spreads don't cross-align --- why not?
- don't allow the last line of a paragraph to be only one word,
esp. a word shorter than the paragraph indent (e.g., ``it'' on pg.
19) --- don't hyphenate the penultimate line of a paragraph (pg. 21)
Using memoir would fix some of the above, but a lot of it would have
to be done by hand.
William
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:14, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: [clip] > Page 28 need a period and space before "Here". Jeremy -- how do you see and remember things like that. Do you proofread professionally? If so, how much do you charge? [clip] > p.s. I recently read Shepard's book. Your book is a good supplement to it. What is Shepard's book? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Typhoon wrote: > But, any feedback appreciated. I read your book (PDF version) just now. Thanks for writing it. Here is my feedback: Ch.4 suggests jpeg -- maybe suggest use png instead since it is lossless Page 28 need a period and space before "Here". Also tell how to make shadowbox there (I have never done it before. I may have missed in your book Insert -> Box and then right click to modify it) 9.2 rewrite slightly to keep interspace discussion together -- don't separate interspace with "There is another common ... " paragraph 9.4 maybe explain "ex" unit better -- example? (Isn't it the size of "X" character?) 11.2.3 For Lulu, I have used pdflatex to create my PDFs fine. I have even used pdftk as the Creator. Lulu printed them fine without complaint. Thanks for teaching me: \raggedbottom Jeremy C. Reed p.s. I recently read Shepard's book. Your book is a good supplement to it. p.p.s. At one time I wanted to publish the official LyX book and I got it formatted for book but it had a lot of improvements needed. If I recall, Uwe was doing a lot of good work on it then. I need to see his new improvements.
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Typhoon wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:00:09 +0200
> Walter van Holst
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Typhoon wrote:
>>
>> > Hmmm. I guess so. If that offends, you can download from
>> >
>> > http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf
>>
>> Thanks for that.
>>
>> The bad news is that Apple Preview doesn't render it too nicely. I
>> guess it suffers from the same font problem that others have
>> mentioned.
>
> I have recompiled it with \usepackage{lmodern} as suggested earlier.
> Could you, and others with problems, download it from
> http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf and report the results?
>
> Many thanks.
> Alan
>
>>
This one (with lmodern) looks good here (kpdf). Fonts are now all type1 as
expected.
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 23:54:07 Andre Poenitz wrote: > My kpdf runs on fvwm2, and your file looks good. I have kpdf under kde and the text looks perfect. :-) > Andre' -- José Abílio
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:48:19 +0100
"Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/29/07, Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > PDF looked fine with my Acroread program on Mandriva 2007 Linux.
> > >
> > > Looks nice with Acrobat Reader, but not that nice with Kpdf.
> >
> > Yes. I just installed Kpdf and it looks dreadful - even when
> > compiled with \usepackage{lmodern}.
> >
> > Disappointing, but I don't know what to do about it. It looks fine
> > to me in other viewers.
>
> Compiled with
>
> \usepackage{lmodern}
>
> looks great on Kpdf, but not that great on Acrobat Reader.
>
> Compiled without
>
> \usepackage{lmodern}
>
> looks great on Acrobat Reader, but not that great on Kpdf.
Arrgghhh (again)! I guess I'll just leave it for the time being.
Download the \usepackage{lmodern} from the
web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf site and the not\usepackage{lmodern} from
the Lulu site.
An interesting possibility here is to upload a postscript file to the
Lulu site. They will then convert using Adobe Distiller, and I suppose
the result should keep everyone happy.
Except that all the linkages would be lost.
Life is hard and cruel!
Cheers,
Alan
>
> Paul
>
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 08:45:55AM +1000, Typhoon wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:36:17 +0100
> "Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 8/29/07, Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have recompiled it with \usepackage{lmodern} as suggested earlier.
> > > Could you, and others with problems, download it from
> > > http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf and report the results?
> >
> > The new version looks perfect on Kpdf.
>
> That's weird. As I just posted at about the same time as you, it still
> looks bad on my Debian Etch under Kpdf. I'm running Gnome, but I can't
> imagine that this makes a difference.
My kpdf runs on fvwm2, and your file looks good.
Andre'
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:12, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 07:04:03AM +1000, Typhoon wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:33:28 -0400 > > > > Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Helge Hafting wrote: > > > > Typhoon wrote: > > > >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or > > > >> as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > > > >> http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > > >> > > > >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed > > > >> at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or > > > >> OpenOffice. > > > >> > > > >> But, any feedback appreciated. > > > > > > Ironically, the pdf looks poor. I see it is loaded with type3 fonts. > > > > Arrgghhh!! What viewer are you using and on what system? I checked it > > out fairly carefully with xpdf and Acroread on Debian Etch. The printed > > version looks good. > > > > What do I do to improve it? > > Unrelated 'problem': Do I really have to sign up there? Yeah, one principle of sales is to make it easy for the customer, and given that this is a free download and given that the author will NOT be informed by LULU of who downloads (or buys for that matter), it might be a good idea to have the file downloadable elsewhere. StveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 08:30:08AM +1000, Typhoon wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:00:09 +0200
> Walter van Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Typhoon wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmm. I guess so. If that offends, you can download from
> > >
> > > http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf
> >
> > Thanks for that.
> >
> > The bad news is that Apple Preview doesn't render it too nicely. I
> > guess it suffers from the same font problem that others have
> > mentioned.
>
> I have recompiled it with \usepackage{lmodern} as suggested earlier.
> Could you, and others with problems, download it from
> http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf and report the results?
Looks good in acroread and kpdf.
Andre'
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On 8/29/07, Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > PDF looked fine with my Acroread program on Mandriva 2007 Linux.
> >
> > Looks nice with Acrobat Reader, but not that nice with Kpdf.
>
> Yes. I just installed Kpdf and it looks dreadful - even when compiled
> with \usepackage{lmodern}.
>
> Disappointing, but I don't know what to do about it. It looks fine to
> me in other viewers.
Compiled with
\usepackage{lmodern}
looks great on Kpdf, but not that great on Acrobat Reader.
Compiled without
\usepackage{lmodern}
looks great on Acrobat Reader, but not that great on Kpdf.
Paul
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 07:52:55AM +1000, Typhoon wrote: > > Unrelated 'problem': Do I really have to sign up there? > > Hmmm. I guess so. If that offends, you can download from > > http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf Thanks ;-) Andre'
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:36:17 +0100
"Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/29/07, Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have recompiled it with \usepackage{lmodern} as suggested earlier.
> > Could you, and others with problems, download it from
> > http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf and report the results?
>
> The new version looks perfect on Kpdf.
That's weird. As I just posted at about the same time as you, it still
looks bad on my Debian Etch under Kpdf. I'm running Gnome, but I can't
imagine that this makes a difference.
>
> Congratulations, Alan, for your excellent book!
Thanks, Paul.
>
> Paul
>
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:29:01 +0100
"Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/29/07, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > PDF looked fine with my Acroread program on Mandriva 2007 Linux.
>
> Looks nice with Acrobat Reader, but not that nice with Kpdf.
Yes. I just installed Kpdf and it looks dreadful - even when compiled
with \usepackage{lmodern}.
Disappointing, but I don't know what to do about it. It looks fine to
me in other viewers.
Alan
>
> Paul
>
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On 8/29/07, Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have recompiled it with \usepackage{lmodern} as suggested earlier.
> Could you, and others with problems, download it from
> http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf and report the results?
The new version looks perfect on Kpdf.
Congratulations, Alan, for your excellent book!
Paul
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:00:09 +0200
Walter van Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Typhoon wrote:
>
> > Hmmm. I guess so. If that offends, you can download from
> >
> > http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> The bad news is that Apple Preview doesn't render it too nicely. I
> guess it suffers from the same font problem that others have
> mentioned.
I have recompiled it with \usepackage{lmodern} as suggested earlier.
Could you, and others with problems, download it from
http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf and report the results?
Many thanks.
Alan
>
> Regards,
>
> Walter
>
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On 8/29/07, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PDF looked fine with my Acroread program on Mandriva 2007 Linux. Looks nice with Acrobat Reader, but not that nice with Kpdf. Paul
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:00:09 +0200 Walter van Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Typhoon wrote: > > > Hmmm. I guess so. If that offends, you can download from > > > > http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf > > Thanks for that. > > The bad news is that Apple Preview doesn't render it too nicely. I > guess it suffers from the same font problem that others have > mentioned. That is very disappointing. I hesitate to fool around with the fonts since Lulu can be very touchy with pdf files and the current settings print beautifully. I would appreciate some feedback on this issue from Windows users. Thanks, Alan > > Regards, > > Walter >
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Typhoon wrote: Hmmm. I guess so. If that offends, you can download from http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf Thanks for that. The bad news is that Apple Preview doesn't render it too nicely. I guess it suffers from the same font problem that others have mentioned. Regards, Walter
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:12:29 +0200 Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 07:04:03AM +1000, Typhoon wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:33:28 -0400 > > Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Helge Hafting wrote: > > > > > > > Typhoon wrote: > > > >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download > > > >> or as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > > > >> http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > > >> > > > >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is > > > >> directed at people who want to self-publish and are probably > > > >> using Word or OpenOffice. > > > >> > > > >> But, any feedback appreciated. > > > >> > > > Ironically, the pdf looks poor. I see it is loaded with type3 > > > fonts. > > > > Arrgghhh!! What viewer are you using and on what system? I checked > > it out fairly carefully with xpdf and Acroread on Debian Etch. The > > printed version looks good. > > > > What do I do to improve it? > > Unrelated 'problem': Do I really have to sign up there? Hmmm. I guess so. If that offends, you can download from http://web.aanet.com.au/sage/lyx.pdf > > Andre' >
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 07:04:03AM +1000, Typhoon wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:33:28 -0400 > Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Helge Hafting wrote: > > > > > Typhoon wrote: > > >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or > > >> as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > > >> http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > >> > > >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed > > >> at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or > > >> OpenOffice. > > >> > > >> But, any feedback appreciated. > > >> > > Ironically, the pdf looks poor. I see it is loaded with type3 fonts. > > Arrgghhh!! What viewer are you using and on what system? I checked it > out fairly carefully with xpdf and Acroread on Debian Etch. The printed > version looks good. > > What do I do to improve it? Unrelated 'problem': Do I really have to sign up there? Andre'
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wednesday 29 August 2007, Typhoon wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:33:28 -0400
>
> Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Helge Hafting wrote:
> > > Typhoon wrote:
> > >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or
> > >> as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com:
> > >> http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870
> > >>
> > >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed
> > >> at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or
> > >> OpenOffice.
> > >>
> > >> But, any feedback appreciated.
> >
> > Ironically, the pdf looks poor. I see it is loaded with type3 fonts.
>
> Arrgghhh!! What viewer are you using and on what system? I checked it
> out fairly carefully with xpdf and Acroread on Debian Etch. The printed
> version looks good.
>
> What do I do to improve it?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
I used kpdf.
What I always do is
\usepackage{lmodern}
or
\usepackage(cmlgc}
This should give type1 versions of all the cm fonts to be used, assuming you
have cmlgc or lmodern properly installed.
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:40:24 -0400 Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Helge Hafting wrote: > > > Typhoon wrote: > >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or > >> as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > >> http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > >> > >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed > >> at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or > >> OpenOffice. > >> > >> But, any feedback appreciated. > >> > > Rather than advising to add page headings using ERT, why not add to > the document preamble? Because that give headings and folios in all of the frontmatter. > >
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:33:28 -0400 Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Helge Hafting wrote: > > > Typhoon wrote: > >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or > >> as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > >> http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > >> > >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed > >> at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or > >> OpenOffice. > >> > >> But, any feedback appreciated. > >> > Ironically, the pdf looks poor. I see it is loaded with type3 fonts. Arrgghhh!! What viewer are you using and on what system? I checked it out fairly carefully with xpdf and Acroread on Debian Etch. The printed version looks good. What do I do to improve it? Thanks, Alan > >
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:16:37 -0400 (EDT) John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Err, download from where? sorry, I see that my original post wasn't entirely clear. You can download from the Lulu.com site. Alan > > I think any good book on self-publishing would be > useful for the LyX community and is likely to extend > its use. > > Also I can easily see transfering from Word or > OpenOffice to LyX for final publishing even if most or > all of the writing has been done in a wp. > > I am tending to stick poorly laidout Word reports into > LyX just to get a decent readable document for > personal use. > > > --- Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a > > free download or as a > > USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > > http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > > > Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. > > It is directed at > > people who want to self-publish and are probably > > using Word or > > OpenOffice. > > > > But, any feedback appreciated. > > > > Cheers, > > Alan > > > > > > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark > your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. >
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 00:17, Typhoon wrote: > "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or as a > USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed at > people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or > OpenOffice. > > But, any feedback appreciated. > > Cheers, > Alan Excellent book Alan. I like the way you make a beautifully typeset book, describing LyX, using LyX. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for giving your opinion that the frontmatter should be freelanced rather than styled. I also liked the way you didn't make a big deal out of it not being WYSIWYG or call it WYGIWYM or whatever, and in fact praised its wordprocessor like qualities. If it weren't for those wordprocessor like qualities, I'd just use LaTeX directly. I liked your description of where NOT to use LyX (the cover, newsletters and the like). This all too important topic is often left out in a rush to evangelize LyX. I liked the way you described various things you can do from the LyX menus -- things I've been doing in ERT all these years because I didn't know they existed directly from LyX. Your book makes LyX very approachable for the newbie. There's just one little thing... The one thing you left out is what the self-publisher does when he needs a style that doesn't exist. The little boxes, in every tech book, that start with Note:, Tip:, Warning:, Caution:, or a custom title. I don't think there's a document class anywhere that includes these. Or maybe you have a special short phrase you want typeset a certain way -- maybe its your trademark product or whatever. Obviously this is beyond the scope of your book, and beyond the current technical knowledge of your reader, and it would scare the Dickens out of your reader. But shouldn't the reader at least know this issue will surface, before he's half way through a book and can't create a Tip box? Perhaps you could include a chapter on how to make and integrate a very basic paragraph style, and a very basic character style -- maybe even have it pasteable. Then tell the reader he can style it in this basic way for now, and then either he or a more LyXically proficient person can adjust it to what the intended appearance later on. If you do it right it wouldn't be too complex or too scary for the reader. On the same note, I don't remember seeing a lot about the LyX-Users mailing list. The prospective self-publisher should know this resource exists. I'm lucky Dekl Tsur was on the mailing list in 2001. Without Dekl Tsur's color text workaround for character styles (before true LyX character styles existed), I would have had to abandon LyX at the beginning of my first book. But because Dekl was on the mailing list and told me how to do it, I was able to complete my first book. In summary, it's a good book, and it's obvious upon reading that it's written by a guy who's been in the trenches, and it can be even better if very basic style customization is addressed. SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 08:33, Neal Becker wrote: > Helge Hafting wrote: > > Typhoon wrote: > >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or as a > >> USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > >> > >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed at > >> people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or > >> OpenOffice. > >> > >> But, any feedback appreciated. > > Ironically, the pdf looks poor. I see it is loaded with type3 fonts. PDF looked fine with my Acroread program on Mandriva 2007 Linux. SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Helge Hafting wrote: > Typhoon wrote: >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or as a >> USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 >> >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed at >> people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or >> OpenOffice. >> >> But, any feedback appreciated. >> Rather than advising to add page headings using ERT, why not add to the document preamble?
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Helge Hafting wrote: > Typhoon wrote: >> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or as a >> USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 >> >> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed at >> people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or >> OpenOffice. >> >> But, any feedback appreciated. >> Ironically, the pdf looks poor. I see it is loaded with type3 fonts.
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Err, download from where? I think any good book on self-publishing would be useful for the LyX community and is likely to extend its use. Also I can easily see transfering from Word or OpenOffice to LyX for final publishing even if most or all of the writing has been done in a wp. I am tending to stick poorly laidout Word reports into LyX just to get a decent readable document for personal use. --- Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a > free download or as a > USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: > http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 > > Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. > It is directed at > people who want to self-publish and are probably > using Word or > OpenOffice. > > But, any feedback appreciated. > > Cheers, > Alan > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Typhoon wrote: "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or OpenOffice. But, any feedback appreciated. I read the TOC at that site. Seems like a good book for the intended audience. Perhaps a link on the lyx wiki site would be appropriate? There is a page for "suggested reading" there, and your book documents LyX usage. http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SuggestedReading Helge Hafting
Self-publishing with LyX
"Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a free download or as a USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it. It is directed at people who want to self-publish and are probably using Word or OpenOffice. But, any feedback appreciated. Cheers, Alan
