Re: Trouble with Cross-Reference
On 09/24/2015 10:26 PM, Sarah wrote: Hi, I've uploaded file that I've created while following the tutorial. Hopefully this will make my issue more clear to you all. -Sarah On 9/24/15 1:10 PM, Sarah wrote: So sorry, I forgot to include in my original message that I'm working on a Mac machine. OS X 10.9.5 On 9/24/15 11:27 AM, Sarah wrote: Hi, I'm working through the LyX Tutorial and I've encountered a problem in Section 3.4.2: Your first cross-reference. I have followed the steps outlined in this section: * Applied the label "sec:About-This-Document" at the end of the title line for Section 2 of my document (as directed in Section 3.4.1 in the tutorial) * Typed the suggested text, "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section, which can be found on page." within Section 2 of my document * Placed the cursor after the word "Section" * Used the Cross Reference toolbar button * Selected " on page " from the "Format" drop-down menu in the Cross-reference dialog * Selected the label "sec:About-This-Document" The reference label "Ref+Text: sec:About-This-Document" then appears after the word "Section" in my text. However, when I view the .pdf file, no page information is published. The sentence reads: "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section 2, which can be found on page." Information is published for the Section but not for the page. Please let me know if you see an error in my steps. This particular format is not completely necessary for my needs, and I can fix the problem manually by including another cross-reference at the end of the word "page" and using the "" format in the Cross-reference dialog, but I'd like to know whether I am creating the problem or the format contains a bug. Thanks. -- Sarah Davis Hi Sarah, see your LyX document with some basic changes I've added. Look at the Document Settings. If you remove linktoc=none in Document > Settings > PDF Properties the Contents will be in red. Have fun! Michael PS: Try replacing the document class Article with Koma Script Article firstdoc_mb.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Trouble with Cross-Reference
added some lipsum text to force another page and it functioned correctly
---it gave me " Section 2 on the preceding page" as it should.
Sarah,
Handy trick if you need some junk filler text when testing something add
\usepackage{lipsum} to the latex preamble Document > Settings > Latex
Preamble
and you can stick a command like \lipsum[1-4] in ERT (know called Tex Code
Insert > Tex Code or ctl-L ) to insert 4 paragraphs of the famous "Lorem
ipsum dolor... " text.
On 24 September 2015 at 18:07, Richard Heck wrote:
> On 09/24/2015 04:26 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've uploaded file that I've created while following the tutorial.
> Hopefully this will make my issue more clear to you all.
>
>
> Yes, thanks, that is helpful.
>
> So your file looks like:
>
> If you want to know more about this document, then see Section
> [Ref+Text:sec:About-This-Document],
> which can be found on page.
>
> This is exactly what the tutorial says to do, but it is obviously
> ungrammatical. The "which can be found on page" part seems to be a leftover
> from a previous version. I've removed it for the next release. (Thanks!)
>
> What happens with the "Ref+Text" type of cross-reference is that, if that
> section began on a different page from the one the cross-reference is on,
> then you will get something like "Section 2 on page 5" in the output. If,
> as in your case, it is on the same page, you just get "Section 2". This is
> a very cool aspect of how LaTeX works. It can figure out for you whether
> you need to put a page number. It will even do things like "Section 2 on
> the preceding page". Add some random text before the cross-reference to
> force it to the next page, and you can see for yourself.
>
> If you actually did want it to read "which can be found on page 5", or
> whatever, then you could make the first cross-reference just have the
> format "" and then add another cross-reference after the word
> "page". The label would be the same, but the format would be "".
> Alternatively, you could remove the words "on page" and use the format "On
> page ". Then you get as output "on page 5" or "on the preceding page"
> or even "on the current page", depending. Try it.
>
> Richard
>
>
> -Sarah
>
> On 9/24/15 1:10 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> So sorry, I forgot to include in my original message that I'm working on a
> Mac machine. OS X 10.9.5
>
> On 9/24/15 11:27 AM, Sarah wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm working through the LyX Tutorial and I've encountered a problem in
> Section 3.4.2: Your first cross-reference. I have followed the steps
> outlined in this section:
>
>- Applied the label "sec:About-This-Document" at the end of the title
>line for Section 2 of my document (as directed in Section 3.4.1 in the
>tutorial)
>- Typed the suggested text, "If you want to know more about this
>document, then see Section, which can be found on page." within Section 2
>of my document
>- Placed the cursor after the word "Section"
>- Used the Cross Reference toolbar button
>- Selected " on page " from the "Format" drop-down
>menu in the Cross-reference dialog
>- Selected the label "sec:About-This-Document"
>
>
> The reference label "Ref+Text: sec:About-This-Document" then appears after
> the word "Section" in my text. However, when I view the .pdf file, no page
> information is published. The sentence reads: "If you want to know more
> about this document, then see Section 2, which can be found on page."
> Information is published for the Section but not for the page.
>
> Please let me know if you see an error in my steps. This particular format
> is not completely necessary for my needs, and I can fix the problem
> manually by including another cross-reference at the end of the word "page"
> and using the "" format in the Cross-reference dialog, but I'd like
> to know whether I am creating the problem or the format contains a bug.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Sarah Davis
>
>
>
>
>
--
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada
Re: Trouble with Cross-Reference
On 09/24/2015 04:26 PM, Sarah wrote: Hi, I've uploaded file that I've created while following the tutorial. Hopefully this will make my issue more clear to you all. Yes, thanks, that is helpful. So your file looks like: If you want to know more about this document, then see Section [Ref+Text:sec:About-This-Document], which can be found on page. This is exactly what the tutorial says to do, but it is obviously ungrammatical. The "which can be found on page" part seems to be a leftover from a previous version. I've removed it for the next release. (Thanks!) What happens with the "Ref+Text" type of cross-reference is that, if that section began on a different page from the one the cross-reference is on, then you will get something like "Section 2 on page 5" in the output. If, as in your case, it is on the same page, you just get "Section 2". This is a very cool aspect of how LaTeX works. It can figure out for you whether you need to put a page number. It will even do things like "Section 2 on the preceding page". Add some random text before the cross-reference to force it to the next page, and you can see for yourself. If you actually did want it to read "which can be found on page 5", or whatever, then you could make the first cross-reference just have the format "" and then add another cross-reference after the word "page". The label would be the same, but the format would be "". Alternatively, you could remove the words "on page" and use the format "On page ". Then you get as output "on page 5" or "on the preceding page" or even "on the current page", depending. Try it. Richard LyX Document -Sarah On 9/24/15 1:10 PM, Sarah wrote: So sorry, I forgot to include in my original message that I'm working on a Mac machine. OS X 10.9.5 On 9/24/15 11:27 AM, Sarah wrote: Hi, I'm working through the LyX Tutorial and I've encountered a problem in Section 3.4.2: Your first cross-reference. I have followed the steps outlined in this section: * Applied the label "sec:About-This-Document" at the end of the title line for Section 2 of my document (as directed in Section 3.4.1 in the tutorial) * Typed the suggested text, "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section, which can be found on page." within Section 2 of my document * Placed the cursor after the word "Section" * Used the Cross Reference toolbar button * Selected " on page " from the "Format" drop-down menu in the Cross-reference dialog * Selected the label "sec:About-This-Document" The reference label "Ref+Text: sec:About-This-Document" then appears after the word "Section" in my text. However, when I view the .pdf file, no page information is published. The sentence reads: "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section 2, which can be found on page." Information is published for the Section but not for the page. Please let me know if you see an error in my steps. This particular format is not completely necessary for my needs, and I can fix the problem manually by including another cross-reference at the end of the word "page" and using the "" format in the Cross-reference dialog, but I'd like to know whether I am creating the problem or the format contains a bug. Thanks. -- Sarah Davis
Re: Trouble with Cross-Reference
Hi, I've uploaded file that I've created while following the tutorial. Hopefully this will make my issue more clear to you all. -Sarah On 9/24/15 1:10 PM, Sarah wrote: So sorry, I forgot to include in my original message that I'm working on a Mac machine. OS X 10.9.5 On 9/24/15 11:27 AM, Sarah wrote: Hi, I'm working through the LyX Tutorial and I've encountered a problem in Section 3.4.2: Your first cross-reference. I have followed the steps outlined in this section: * Applied the label "sec:About-This-Document" at the end of the title line for Section 2 of my document (as directed in Section 3.4.1 in the tutorial) * Typed the suggested text, "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section, which can be found on page." within Section 2 of my document * Placed the cursor after the word "Section" * Used the Cross Reference toolbar button * Selected " on page " from the "Format" drop-down menu in the Cross-reference dialog * Selected the label "sec:About-This-Document" The reference label "Ref+Text: sec:About-This-Document" then appears after the word "Section" in my text. However, when I view the .pdf file, no page information is published. The sentence reads: "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section 2, which can be found on page." Information is published for the Section but not for the page. Please let me know if you see an error in my steps. This particular format is not completely necessary for my needs, and I can fix the problem manually by including another cross-reference at the end of the word "page" and using the "" format in the Cross-reference dialog, but I'd like to know whether I am creating the problem or the format contains a bug. Thanks. -- Sarah Davis #LyX 2.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 474 \begin_document \begin_header \textclass article \use_default_options true \begin_modules theorems-ams eqs-within-sections figs-within-sections \end_modules \maintain_unincluded_children false \language english \language_package default \inputencoding auto \fontencoding global \font_roman default \font_sans default \font_typewriter default \font_math auto \font_default_family default \use_non_tex_fonts false \font_sc false \font_osf false \font_sf_scale 100 \font_tt_scale 100 \graphics default \default_output_format default \output_sync 0 \bibtex_command default \index_command default \paperfontsize default \spacing single \use_hyperref false \papersize default \use_geometry false \use_package amsmath 1 \use_package amssymb 1 \use_package cancel 1 \use_package esint 1 \use_package mathdots 1 \use_package mathtools 1 \use_package mhchem 1 \use_package stackrel 1 \use_package stmaryrd 1 \use_package undertilde 1 \cite_engine basic \cite_engine_type default \biblio_style plain \use_bibtopic false \use_indices false \paperorientation portrait \suppress_date false \justification true \use_refstyle 1 \index Index \shortcut idx \color #008000 \end_index \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \paragraph_indentation default \quotes_language english \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \tracking_changes false \output_changes false \html_math_output 0 \html_css_as_file 0 \html_be_strict false \end_header \begin_body \begin_layout Title A First Attempt at LyX \end_layout \begin_layout Author Sarah Davis \end_layout \begin_layout Date September 22, 2015 \end_layout \begin_layout Abstract This article is a representative document of a personal first look into writing in LyX \begin_inset Foot status open \begin_layout Plain Layout LyX is a typesetting word processor. \end_layout \end_inset . The sections and subsections listed below represent work completed while practicing skills necessary to use LyX successfully. This skillset should prove useful while working in a technical lab, especially for such details as Standard Operating Procedures and Laboratory Reports. As a team member with a knack for organization I will use my newly acquired skillset to create templates for my coworkers. These templates will aid in the creation of consistent and aesthetically pleasing official documentation. \end_layout \begin_layout Standard \begin_inset CommandInset toc LatexCommand tableofcontents \end_inset \end_layout \begin_layout Section Introduction \end_layout \begin_layout Standard This is an introduction to my first LyX document. \end_layout \begin_layout Section About This Document \begin_inset CommandInset label LatexCommand label name "sec:About-This-Document" \end_inset \end_layout \begin_layout Standard Sections and subsections are described below. \begin_inset Newline newline \end_inset If you want to know more about this document, then see Section \begin_inset CommandInset ref LatexCommand vref reference "sec:About-This-Document" \end_inset , which can be found on page. \end_layout \begin_layout Subsection Sec
Re: Trouble with Cross-Reference
Am 24.09.2015 um 20:10 schrieb Sarah : > So sorry, I forgot to include in my original message that I'm working on a > Mac machine. OS X 10.9.5 Hi Sarah, it would be nice to see the document you've created so far. I'm not sure if I'm able to help - but others will be interested in the example with your problem too. Perhaps the tutorial is not the best here. If I insert a cross- reference like you described it I get the text "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section *2 on the previous page*, which can be found on page." in Preview. The phrase between the stars is the generated text of the reference. Obviously the rest of the sentence is nonsense. Regards, Stephan > > On 9/24/15 11:27 AM, Sarah wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm working through the LyX Tutorial and I've encountered a problem in >> Section 3.4.2: Your first cross-reference. I have followed the steps >> outlined in this section: >> • Applied the label "sec:About-This-Document" at the end of the title >> line for Section 2 of my document (as directed in Section 3.4.1 in the >> tutorial) >> • Typed the suggested text, "If you want to know more about this >> document, then see Section, which can be found on page." within Section 2 of >> my document >> • Placed the cursor after the word "Section" >> • Used the Cross Reference toolbar button >> • Selected " on page " from the "Format" drop-down >> menu in the Cross-reference dialog >> • Selected the label "sec:About-This-Document" >> >> The reference label "Ref+Text: sec:About-This-Document" then appears after >> the word "Section" in my text. However, when I view the .pdf file, no page >> information is published. The sentence reads: "If you want to know more >> about this document, then see Section 2, which can be found on page." >> Information is published for the Section but not for the page. >> >> Please let me know if you see an error in my steps. This particular format >> is not completely necessary for my needs, and I can fix the problem manually >> by including another cross-reference at the end of the word "page" and using >> the "" format in the Cross-reference dialog, but I'd like to know >> whether I am creating the problem or the format contains a bug. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Sarah Davis >> >
Re: Trouble with Cross-Reference
So sorry, I forgot to include in my original message that I'm working on a Mac machine. OS X 10.9.5 On 9/24/15 11:27 AM, Sarah wrote: Hi, I'm working through the LyX Tutorial and I've encountered a problem in Section 3.4.2: Your first cross-reference. I have followed the steps outlined in this section: * Applied the label "sec:About-This-Document" at the end of the title line for Section 2 of my document (as directed in Section 3.4.1 in the tutorial) * Typed the suggested text, "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section, which can be found on page." within Section 2 of my document * Placed the cursor after the word "Section" * Used the Cross Reference toolbar button * Selected " on page " from the "Format" drop-down menu in the Cross-reference dialog * Selected the label "sec:About-This-Document" The reference label "Ref+Text: sec:About-This-Document" then appears after the word "Section" in my text. However, when I view the .pdf file, no page information is published. The sentence reads: "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section 2, which can be found on page." Information is published for the Section but not for the page. Please let me know if you see an error in my steps. This particular format is not completely necessary for my needs, and I can fix the problem manually by including another cross-reference at the end of the word "page" and using the "" format in the Cross-reference dialog, but I'd like to know whether I am creating the problem or the format contains a bug. Thanks. -- Sarah Davis
Trouble with Cross-Reference
Hi, I'm working through the LyX Tutorial and I've encountered a problem in Section 3.4.2: Your first cross-reference. I have followed the steps outlined in this section: * Applied the label "sec:About-This-Document" at the end of the title line for Section 2 of my document (as directed in Section 3.4.1 in the tutorial) * Typed the suggested text, "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section, which can be found on page." within Section 2 of my document * Placed the cursor after the word "Section" * Used the Cross Reference toolbar button * Selected " on page " from the "Format" drop-down menu in the Cross-reference dialog * Selected the label "sec:About-This-Document" The reference label "Ref+Text: sec:About-This-Document" then appears after the word "Section" in my text. However, when I view the .pdf file, no page information is published. The sentence reads: "If you want to know more about this document, then see Section 2, which can be found on page." Information is published for the Section but not for the page. Please let me know if you see an error in my steps. This particular format is not completely necessary for my needs, and I can fix the problem manually by including another cross-reference at the end of the word "page" and using the "" format in the Cross-reference dialog, but I'd like to know whether I am creating the problem or the format contains a bug. Thanks. -- Sarah Davis
