Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 

Le 04/07/2015 22:09, Benedict Holland a écrit :

I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but
the 2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year?
What additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec
sheet for various usability tests that should be performed or is it just
ad-hoc testing and report bugs to the channel?


THe problems that can happen are related to the packaging on Ubuntu. For 
example, if this LyX is compiled without spellcheking support (which is 
not the case here :).


JMarc

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 

Le 04/07/2015 22:09, Benedict Holland a écrit :

I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but
the 2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year?
What additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec
sheet for various usability tests that should be performed or is it just
ad-hoc testing and report bugs to the channel?


THe problems that can happen are related to the packaging on Ubuntu. For 
example, if this LyX is compiled without spellcheking support (which is 
not the case here :).


JMarc

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 

Le 04/07/2015 22:09, Benedict Holland a écrit :

I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but
the 2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year?
What additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec
sheet for various usability tests that should be performed or is it just
ad-hoc testing and report bugs to the channel?


THe problems that can happen are related to the packaging on Ubuntu. For 
example, if this LyX is compiled without spellcheking support (which is 
not the case here :).


JMarc

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-04 Thread Benedict Holland 
Right. I deeply question that logic though. The fact that a corrupted save
bug was fixed is sort of a game changer from a usability perspective. I
mean, if it wasn't well known, well documented, or fixed, I might say that
it makes sense but as it stands, releasing code that has a known
catastrophic or critical or severe bug that was later fixed seems like it
will just cause far more problems in the future, especially on systems that
don't take updates.

Again, I wouldn't find this a problem except in this fairly rare case
particularly when the first thing to do is make sure that the software used
is up to date when it comes to fixing problems.

I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but the
2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year? What
additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec sheet for
various usability tests that should be performed or is it just ad-hoc
testing and report bugs to the channel?

~Ben

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:

 On 07/02/2015 03:24 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:

 Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with
 known catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature implemented in
 the 2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 exclusively for a long
 time and I admit that I am a power user. It is stable as anything I use and
 when combined with LuaTex, it produces beamer presentations and pdf
 documents that are absolutely stunning. This includes images. XeLatex had
 problems for me when importing PDF images but LuaTex does it far better.
 None of this has to do with Lyx though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I
 am using it to the fullest extent possible.

 The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber
 support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.


 The testing here, I take it, is just to make sure that 2.0.8.1 works as
 expected on Ubuntu 14.04, which is still live (and widely used) and whose
 policies prohibit an upgrade to 2.1.x. Despite all the bugfixes.

 Richard

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-04 Thread Richard Heck 

On 07/04/2015 04:09 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:
Right. I deeply question that logic though. The fact that a corrupted 
save bug was fixed is sort of a game changer from a usability 
perspective. I mean, if it wasn't well known, well documented, or 
fixed, I might say that it makes sense but as it stands, releasing 
code that has a known catastrophic or critical or severe bug that was 
later fixed seems like it will just cause far more problems in the 
future, especially on systems that don't take updates.


Yes, but this is not our decision. It's an Ubuntu policy. It makes a lot 
more sense with libraries, really, but it's part of why I personally 
don't use Ubuntu LTS.


Note that the problem that triggered the corrupted save bug has been 
fixed in 2.0.8.1.


I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but 
the 2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year? 
What additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec 
sheet for various usability tests that should be performed or is it 
just ad-hoc testing and report bugs to the channel?


I'm not the best person to answer this, but I think all that's needed is 
to try it out pretty quickly. Since other packages haven't been 
seriously updated on Trusty either (e.g., Qt), one wouldn't expect there 
to be any issue.


Richard

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-04 Thread Benedict Holland 
Right. I deeply question that logic though. The fact that a corrupted save
bug was fixed is sort of a game changer from a usability perspective. I
mean, if it wasn't well known, well documented, or fixed, I might say that
it makes sense but as it stands, releasing code that has a known
catastrophic or critical or severe bug that was later fixed seems like it
will just cause far more problems in the future, especially on systems that
don't take updates.

Again, I wouldn't find this a problem except in this fairly rare case
particularly when the first thing to do is make sure that the software used
is up to date when it comes to fixing problems.

I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but the
2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year? What
additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec sheet for
various usability tests that should be performed or is it just ad-hoc
testing and report bugs to the channel?

~Ben

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:

 On 07/02/2015 03:24 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:

 Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with
 known catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature implemented in
 the 2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 exclusively for a long
 time and I admit that I am a power user. It is stable as anything I use and
 when combined with LuaTex, it produces beamer presentations and pdf
 documents that are absolutely stunning. This includes images. XeLatex had
 problems for me when importing PDF images but LuaTex does it far better.
 None of this has to do with Lyx though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I
 am using it to the fullest extent possible.

 The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber
 support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.


 The testing here, I take it, is just to make sure that 2.0.8.1 works as
 expected on Ubuntu 14.04, which is still live (and widely used) and whose
 policies prohibit an upgrade to 2.1.x. Despite all the bugfixes.

 Richard

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-04 Thread Richard Heck 

On 07/04/2015 04:09 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:
Right. I deeply question that logic though. The fact that a corrupted 
save bug was fixed is sort of a game changer from a usability 
perspective. I mean, if it wasn't well known, well documented, or 
fixed, I might say that it makes sense but as it stands, releasing 
code that has a known catastrophic or critical or severe bug that was 
later fixed seems like it will just cause far more problems in the 
future, especially on systems that don't take updates.


Yes, but this is not our decision. It's an Ubuntu policy. It makes a lot 
more sense with libraries, really, but it's part of why I personally 
don't use Ubuntu LTS.


Note that the problem that triggered the corrupted save bug has been 
fixed in 2.0.8.1.


I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but 
the 2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year? 
What additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec 
sheet for various usability tests that should be performed or is it 
just ad-hoc testing and report bugs to the channel?


I'm not the best person to answer this, but I think all that's needed is 
to try it out pretty quickly. Since other packages haven't been 
seriously updated on Trusty either (e.g., Qt), one wouldn't expect there 
to be any issue.


Richard

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-04 Thread Benedict Holland 
Right. I deeply question that logic though. The fact that a corrupted save
bug was fixed is sort of a game changer from a usability perspective. I
mean, if it wasn't well known, well documented, or fixed, I might say that
it makes sense but as it stands, releasing code that has a known
catastrophic or critical or severe bug that was later fixed seems like it
will just cause far more problems in the future, especially on systems that
don't take updates.

Again, I wouldn't find this a problem except in this fairly rare case
particularly when the first thing to do is make sure that the software used
is up to date when it comes to fixing problems.

I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but the
2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year? What
additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec sheet for
various usability tests that should be performed or is it just ad-hoc
testing and report bugs to the channel?

~Ben

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:

> On 07/02/2015 03:24 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:
>
>> Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with
>> known catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature implemented in
>> the 2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 exclusively for a long
>> time and I admit that I am a power user. It is stable as anything I use and
>> when combined with LuaTex, it produces beamer presentations and pdf
>> documents that are absolutely stunning. This includes images. XeLatex had
>> problems for me when importing PDF images but LuaTex does it far better.
>> None of this has to do with Lyx though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I
>> am using it to the fullest extent possible.
>>
>> The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber
>> support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.
>>
>
> The testing here, I take it, is just to make sure that 2.0.8.1 works as
> expected on Ubuntu 14.04, which is still live (and widely used) and whose
> policies prohibit an upgrade to 2.1.x. Despite all the bugfixes.
>
> Richard
>
>

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-04 Thread Richard Heck 

On 07/04/2015 04:09 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:
Right. I deeply question that logic though. The fact that a corrupted 
save bug was fixed is sort of a game changer from a usability 
perspective. I mean, if it wasn't well known, well documented, or 
fixed, I might say that it makes sense but as it stands, releasing 
code that has a known catastrophic or critical or severe bug that was 
later fixed seems like it will just cause far more problems in the 
future, especially on systems that don't take updates.


Yes, but this is not our decision. It's an Ubuntu policy. It makes a lot 
more sense with libraries, really, but it's part of why I personally 
don't use Ubuntu LTS.


Note that the problem that triggered the corrupted save bug has been 
fixed in 2.0.8.1.


I suppose, that said, I don't mind testing lyx on various systems but 
the 2.0.8 branch is old and is in release for what, at least a year? 
What additional testing, apart from that, is required? Is there a spec 
sheet for various usability tests that should be performed or is it 
just ad-hoc testing and report bugs to the channel?


I'm not the best person to answer this, but I think all that's needed is 
to try it out pretty quickly. Since other packages haven't been 
seriously updated on Trusty either (e.g., Qt), one wouldn't expect there 
to be any issue.


Richard

Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 

Dear all,

Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has 
LyX 2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the 
latest LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x 
version, that is 2.0.8.1.


This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu 
trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug 
report:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688

Note that the comment please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead does not count :)


[*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Liviu Andronic 
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 Dear all,

 Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has LyX
 2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the latest
 LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x version,
 that is 2.0.8.1.

 This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu
 trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug
 report:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688

 Note that the comment please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead does not count :)




 [*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
 https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel

Thanks, JMarc. I would only mention that the release PPA contains
2.0.8.1 packages for Trusty, which can be installed alongside (i.e.
independently of) 2.1.3. Users only need to install the lyx2.0
package:
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release


Regards,
Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Benedict Holland 
Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with known
catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature implemented in the
2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 exclusively for a long time
and I admit that I am a power user. It is stable as anything I use and when
combined with LuaTex, it produces beamer presentations and pdf documents
that are absolutely stunning. This includes images. XeLatex had problems
for me when importing PDF images but LuaTex does it far better. None of
this has to do with Lyx though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I am
using it to the fullest extent possible.

The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber
support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.

~Ben

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has
 LyX
  2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the latest
  LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x
 version,
  that is 2.0.8.1.
 
  This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu
  trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug
  report:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688
 
  Note that the comment please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead does not count :)
 
 


  [*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
  https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel
 
 Thanks, JMarc. I would only mention that the release PPA contains
 2.0.8.1 packages for Trusty, which can be installed alongside (i.e.
 independently of) 2.1.3. Users only need to install the lyx2.0
 package:
 https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release


 Regards,
 Liviu


 --
 Do you think you know what math is?
 http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
 Or what it means to be intelligent?
 http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
 Think again:
 http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Richard Heck 

On 07/02/2015 03:24 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:
Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with 
known catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature 
implemented in the 2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 
exclusively for a long time and I admit that I am a power user. It is 
stable as anything I use and when combined with LuaTex, it produces 
beamer presentations and pdf documents that are absolutely stunning. 
This includes images. XeLatex had problems for me when importing PDF 
images but LuaTex does it far better. None of this has to do with Lyx 
though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I am using it to the fullest 
extent possible.


The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber 
support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.


The testing here, I take it, is just to make sure that 2.0.8.1 works as 
expected on Ubuntu 14.04, which is still live (and widely used) and 
whose policies prohibit an upgrade to 2.1.x. Despite all the bugfixes.


Richard

Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 

Dear all,

Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has 
LyX 2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the 
latest LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x 
version, that is 2.0.8.1.


This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu 
trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug 
report:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688

Note that the comment please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead does not count :)


[*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Liviu Andronic 
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 Dear all,

 Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has LyX
 2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the latest
 LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x version,
 that is 2.0.8.1.

 This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu
 trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug
 report:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688

 Note that the comment please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead does not count :)




 [*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
 https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel

Thanks, JMarc. I would only mention that the release PPA contains
2.0.8.1 packages for Trusty, which can be installed alongside (i.e.
independently of) 2.1.3. Users only need to install the lyx2.0
package:
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release


Regards,
Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Benedict Holland 
Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with known
catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature implemented in the
2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 exclusively for a long time
and I admit that I am a power user. It is stable as anything I use and when
combined with LuaTex, it produces beamer presentations and pdf documents
that are absolutely stunning. This includes images. XeLatex had problems
for me when importing PDF images but LuaTex does it far better. None of
this has to do with Lyx though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I am
using it to the fullest extent possible.

The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber
support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.

~Ben

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has
 LyX
  2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the latest
  LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x
 version,
  that is 2.0.8.1.
 
  This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu
  trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug
  report:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688
 
  Note that the comment please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead does not count :)
 
 


  [*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
  https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel
 
 Thanks, JMarc. I would only mention that the release PPA contains
 2.0.8.1 packages for Trusty, which can be installed alongside (i.e.
 independently of) 2.1.3. Users only need to install the lyx2.0
 package:
 https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release


 Regards,
 Liviu


 --
 Do you think you know what math is?
 http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
 Or what it means to be intelligent?
 http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
 Think again:
 http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Richard Heck 

On 07/02/2015 03:24 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:
Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with 
known catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature 
implemented in the 2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 
exclusively for a long time and I admit that I am a power user. It is 
stable as anything I use and when combined with LuaTex, it produces 
beamer presentations and pdf documents that are absolutely stunning. 
This includes images. XeLatex had problems for me when importing PDF 
images but LuaTex does it far better. None of this has to do with Lyx 
though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I am using it to the fullest 
extent possible.


The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber 
support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.


The testing here, I take it, is just to make sure that 2.0.8.1 works as 
expected on Ubuntu 14.04, which is still live (and widely used) and 
whose policies prohibit an upgrade to 2.1.x. Despite all the bugfixes.


Richard

Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 

Dear all,

Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has 
LyX 2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the 
latest LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x 
version, that is 2.0.8.1.


This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu 
trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug 
report:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688

Note that the comment "please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead" does not count :)


[*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Liviu Andronic 
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has LyX
> 2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the latest
> LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x version,
> that is 2.0.8.1.
>
> This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu
> trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug
> report:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688
>
> Note that the comment "please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead" does not count :)
>
>


> [*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
> https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel
>
Thanks, JMarc. I would only mention that the release PPA contains
2.0.8.1 packages for Trusty, which can be installed alongside (i.e.
independently of) 2.1.3. Users only need to install the lyx2.0
package:
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release


Regards,
Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Benedict Holland 
Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with known
catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature implemented in the
2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 exclusively for a long time
and I admit that I am a power user. It is stable as anything I use and when
combined with LuaTex, it produces beamer presentations and pdf documents
that are absolutely stunning. This includes images. XeLatex had problems
for me when importing PDF images but LuaTex does it far better. None of
this has to do with Lyx though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I am
using it to the fullest extent possible.

The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber
support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.

~Ben

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Liviu Andronic 
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
>  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Ubuntu trusty 14.04, the long term support version, currently only has
> LyX
> > 2.0.6. While it is not possible in a LTS version to upgrade to the latest
> > LyX version[*], it has been decided to update to the latest 2.0.x
> version,
> > that is 2.0.8.1.
> >
> > This is now accessible in the proposed channel. I encourage all Ubuntu
> > trusty users to try out this version, and report any problem on this bug
> > report:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303688
> >
> > Note that the comment "please upgrade to 2.1.3 instead" does not count :)
> >
> >
>
>
> > [*] and this is why Liviu graces us with his excellent lyx-devel ppa !
> > https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel
> >
> Thanks, JMarc. I would only mention that the release PPA contains
> 2.0.8.1 packages for Trusty, which can be installed alongside (i.e.
> independently of) 2.1.3. Users only need to install the lyx2.0
> package:
> https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release
>
>
> Regards,
> Liviu
>
>
> --
> Do you think you know what math is?
> http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
> Or what it means to be intelligent?
> http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
> Think again:
> http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library
>

Re: Ubuntu Trusty testers needed

2015-07-02 Thread Richard Heck 

On 07/02/2015 03:24 PM, Benedict Holland wrote:
Just curious, why are we testing old versions of an application with 
known catastrophic bugs? Wasn't the uncorrupted save feature 
implemented in the 2.1 branch? Also, I have been using the 2.1.3 
exclusively for a long time and I admit that I am a power user. It is 
stable as anything I use and when combined with LuaTex, it produces 
beamer presentations and pdf documents that are absolutely stunning. 
This includes images. XeLatex had problems for me when importing PDF 
images but LuaTex does it far better. None of this has to do with Lyx 
though. Lyx is performing beautifully and I am using it to the fullest 
extent possible.


The ONLY thing I have a gripe about is the lack of biblatex and biber 
support. I get it, but I wish that it was there.


The testing here, I take it, is just to make sure that 2.0.8.1 works as 
expected on Ubuntu 14.04, which is still live (and widely used) and 
whose policies prohibit an upgrade to 2.1.x. Despite all the bugfixes.


Richard