Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote:

 The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over.
 He works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my
 initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies)
 including citation inside footnotes and outside.

Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I 
prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it 
sounds as if JuraBib is just the think for people like me. So far I am 
manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes 
created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same?

 All citations should be 
 able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.

What do you mean by a see-option?

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote:

 The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over.
 He works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my
 initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies)
 including citation inside footnotes and outside.

Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I 
prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it 
sounds as if JuraBib is just the think for people like me. So far I am 
manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes 
created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same?

 All citations should be 
 able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.

What do you mean by a see-option?

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-05-11 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote:

> The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over.
> He works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my
> initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies)
> including citation inside footnotes and outside.

Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I 
prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it 
sounds as if JuraBib is just "the think" for people like me. So far I am 
manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes 
created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same?

> All citations should be 
> able to have a "see"-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.

What do you mean by a "see"-option?

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-29 Thread Tim Michelsen
Am Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller
On Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 you wrote:

 Tim Michelsen wrote:
  I am also ready to do this.

 That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib
 stuff.

  What to I have to do for that?
  get a CVS copy?

 It's pretty easy. Read
 http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3
I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local 
directory.

Greetings,
Tim


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:
  http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3

 I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the
 local directory.

You have to run the autogen.sh script first (as described in section 
compiling the sources).

Regards,
Jürgen


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-29 Thread Tim Michelsen
Am Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller
On Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 you wrote:

 Tim Michelsen wrote:
  I am also ready to do this.

 That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib
 stuff.

  What to I have to do for that?
  get a CVS copy?

 It's pretty easy. Read
 http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3
I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local 
directory.

Greetings,
Tim


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:
  http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3

 I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the
 local directory.

You have to run the autogen.sh script first (as described in section 
compiling the sources).

Regards,
Jürgen


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-29 Thread Tim Michelsen
Am Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller
On Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 you wrote:

> Tim Michelsen wrote:
> > I am also ready to do this.
>
> That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib
> stuff.
>
> > What to I have to do for that?
> > get a CVS copy?
>
> It's pretty easy. Read
> http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3
I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local 
directory.

Greetings,
Tim


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:
> > http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3
>
> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the
> local directory.

You have to run the autogen.sh script first (as described in section 
"compiling the sources").

Regards,
Jürgen


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-27 Thread Tim Michelsen
 Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy
 supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x.
 That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is
 not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be
 pretty stable however.
I am also ready to do this.
What to I have to do for that?
get a CVS copy?
Or do you have *.debs?

  Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
  just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks
  about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right
  decision.

 I hope this info doesn't dissuade you.
The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He 
works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my initial 
post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including 
citation inside footnotes and outside. All citations should be able to have a 
see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.
Well if there'll be input before citations I will be satisfied for most of my 
natbib-based work.
Go on!
Tim


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-27 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:

 I am also ready to do this.

That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib
stuff.

 What to I have to do for that?
 get a CVS copy?

It's pretty easy. Read
http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3

 Or do you have *.debs?

AFAIK no. There are snapshots, but only as src and rpm.
ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/

Jürgen




Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-27 Thread Tim Michelsen
 Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy
 supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x.
 That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is
 not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be
 pretty stable however.
I am also ready to do this.
What to I have to do for that?
get a CVS copy?
Or do you have *.debs?

  Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
  just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks
  about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right
  decision.

 I hope this info doesn't dissuade you.
The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He 
works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my initial 
post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including 
citation inside footnotes and outside. All citations should be able to have a 
see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.
Well if there'll be input before citations I will be satisfied for most of my 
natbib-based work.
Go on!
Tim


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-27 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:

 I am also ready to do this.

That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib
stuff.

 What to I have to do for that?
 get a CVS copy?

It's pretty easy. Read
http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3

 Or do you have *.debs?

AFAIK no. There are snapshots, but only as src and rpm.
ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/

Jürgen




Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-27 Thread Tim Michelsen
> Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy
> supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x.
> That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is
> not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be
> pretty stable however.
I am also ready to do this.
What to I have to do for that?
get a CVS copy?
Or do you have *.debs?

> > Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
> > just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ...  > about how to put it> ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right
> > decision.
>
> I hope this info doesn't dissuade you.
The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He 
works on TeXniccenter. :-(  But a major drawback - as stated in my initial 
post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including 
citation inside footnotes and outside. All citations should be able to have a 
"see"-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes.
Well if there'll be input before citations I will be satisfied for most of my 
natbib-based work.
Go on!
Tim


Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-27 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:

> I am also ready to do this.

That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib
stuff.

> What to I have to do for that?
> get a CVS copy?

It's pretty easy. Read
http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3

> Or do you have *.debs?

AFAIK no. There are snapshots, but only as src and rpm.
ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/

Jürgen




Re: bibtex / Bugzilla

2005-04-26 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:

 * when will Lyx be able to insert text before a citation in the citation
 dialog?

LyX 1.4 will support this.

 * when will the choice between  \cite and \footcite etc. for jurabib
 supported? Including the ability to insert citations in footnotes when
 useing \footcite with jurabib (from the workaround at

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg27785.html)

LyX 1.4 will have some jurabib support, but \footcite (and
\citefield/\citetitle, for that matter) is not yet supported.

 The second question is where I file these wishes. Bugzilla seems only be
 querable for real bugs.

You can certainly also file an enhancement report (Severity: enhancement).

Jürgen



lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-26 Thread Sven Schreiber
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 
 LyX 1.4 will support this.

Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I
understand it has to be ready etc. etc.

But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released
more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we
lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now?

I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but
frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of
what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions.

Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks
about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision.

cheers,
sven



Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Sven Schreiber wrote:
 LyX 1.4 will support this.
 
 Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I
 understand it has to be ready etc. etc.
 
 But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released
 more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we
 lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now?

We're slowly putting together LyX 1.3.6. It will of course contain many 
little bug fixes. You can see the current list of such changes here:

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/Attic/status.13x?rev=1.1.2.244only_with_tag=BRANCH_1_3_Xcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
Equivalent URL: http://tinyurl.com/bpcfh

However, LyX 1.3.6 will actually be a *big* patch on LyX 1.3.5 because I 
decided to merge Ruurd's LyX/Win port into the official sources and 
Jean-Marc agreed to let me do so to the LyX 1.3.x code base. (Ruurd's port 
was based on the official LyX 1.3.x code.) This merger hasn't just been a 
cut-and-paste job. Instead, I've tried to do the right thing with each 
piece of changed code.

I'd like to think that LyX/Unix and LyX/Mac users won't be affected at all 
by this work because much of the new code is compiled only under Windows, 
however, only time will tell.

So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then 
blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect 
me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've 
had before. I hope.

 I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but
 frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of
 what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions.

LyX 1.4.x is in feature freeze. If you listen to most everybody else on 
that list other than me, you'll find that they're all busy fixing bugs in 
the LyX 1.4.x code base.

Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy 
supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. 
That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is 
not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be 
pretty stable however.

 Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
 just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks
 about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right
 decision.

I hope this info doesn't dissuade you.

 cheers,
 sven

-- 
Angus



Re: bibtex / Bugzilla

2005-04-26 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:

 * when will Lyx be able to insert text before a citation in the citation
 dialog?

LyX 1.4 will support this.

 * when will the choice between  \cite and \footcite etc. for jurabib
 supported? Including the ability to insert citations in footnotes when
 useing \footcite with jurabib (from the workaround at

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg27785.html)

LyX 1.4 will have some jurabib support, but \footcite (and
\citefield/\citetitle, for that matter) is not yet supported.

 The second question is where I file these wishes. Bugzilla seems only be
 querable for real bugs.

You can certainly also file an enhancement report (Severity: enhancement).

Jürgen



lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-26 Thread Sven Schreiber
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 
 LyX 1.4 will support this.

Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I
understand it has to be ready etc. etc.

But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released
more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we
lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now?

I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but
frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of
what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions.

Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks
about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision.

cheers,
sven



Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Sven Schreiber wrote:
 LyX 1.4 will support this.
 
 Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I
 understand it has to be ready etc. etc.
 
 But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released
 more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we
 lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now?

We're slowly putting together LyX 1.3.6. It will of course contain many 
little bug fixes. You can see the current list of such changes here:

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/Attic/status.13x?rev=1.1.2.244only_with_tag=BRANCH_1_3_Xcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
Equivalent URL: http://tinyurl.com/bpcfh

However, LyX 1.3.6 will actually be a *big* patch on LyX 1.3.5 because I 
decided to merge Ruurd's LyX/Win port into the official sources and 
Jean-Marc agreed to let me do so to the LyX 1.3.x code base. (Ruurd's port 
was based on the official LyX 1.3.x code.) This merger hasn't just been a 
cut-and-paste job. Instead, I've tried to do the right thing with each 
piece of changed code.

I'd like to think that LyX/Unix and LyX/Mac users won't be affected at all 
by this work because much of the new code is compiled only under Windows, 
however, only time will tell.

So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then 
blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect 
me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've 
had before. I hope.

 I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but
 frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of
 what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions.

LyX 1.4.x is in feature freeze. If you listen to most everybody else on 
that list other than me, you'll find that they're all busy fixing bugs in 
the LyX 1.4.x code base.

Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy 
supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. 
That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is 
not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be 
pretty stable however.

 Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
 just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks
 about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right
 decision.

I hope this info doesn't dissuade you.

 cheers,
 sven

-- 
Angus



Re: bibtex / Bugzilla

2005-04-26 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Tim Michelsen wrote:

> * when will Lyx be able to insert text before a citation in the citation
> dialog?

LyX 1.4 will support this.

> * when will the choice between  \cite and \footcite etc. for jurabib
> supported? Including the ability to insert citations in footnotes when
> useing \footcite with jurabib (from the workaround at
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg27785.html)

LyX 1.4 will have some jurabib support, but \footcite (and
\citefield/\citetitle, for that matter) is not yet supported.

> The second question is where I file these wishes. Bugzilla seems only be
> querable for real bugs.

You can certainly also file an enhancement report ("Severity: enhancement").

Jürgen



lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-26 Thread Sven Schreiber
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

> 
> LyX 1.4 will support this.

Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I
understand it has to be ready etc. etc.

But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released
more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we
lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now?

I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but
frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of
what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions.

Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ...  ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision.

cheers,
sven



Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)

2005-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Sven Schreiber wrote:
>> LyX 1.4 will support this.
> 
> Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I
> understand it has to be ready etc. etc.
> 
> But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released
> more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we
> lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now?

We're slowly putting together LyX 1.3.6. It will of course contain many 
little bug fixes. You can see the current list of such changes here:

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/Attic/status.13x?rev=1.1.2.244_with_tag=BRANCH_1_3_X=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
Equivalent URL: http://tinyurl.com/bpcfh

However, LyX 1.3.6 will actually be a *big* patch on LyX 1.3.5 because I 
decided to merge Ruurd's LyX/Win port into the official sources and 
Jean-Marc agreed to let me do so to the LyX 1.3.x code base. (Ruurd's port 
was based on the official LyX 1.3.x code.) This merger hasn't just been a 
cut-and-paste job. Instead, I've tried to "do the right thing" with each 
piece of changed code.

I'd like to think that LyX/Unix and LyX/Mac users won't be affected at all 
by this work because much of the new code is compiled only under Windows, 
however, only time will tell.

So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then 
blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect 
me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've 
had before. I hope.

> I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but
> frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of
> what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions.

LyX 1.4.x is in feature freeze. If you listen to most everybody else on 
that list other than me, you'll find that they're all busy fixing bugs in 
the LyX 1.4.x code base.

Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy 
supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. 
That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is 
not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be 
pretty stable however.

> Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's
> just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ...  about how to put it> ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right
> decision.

I hope this info doesn't dissuade you.

> cheers,
> sven

-- 
Angus



bibtex / Bugzilla

2005-04-25 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hi,
 I have 2 questions:

* when will Lyx be able to insert text before a citation in the citation 
dialog? 
* when will the choice between  \cite and \footcite etc. for jurabib 
supported? Including the ability to insert citations in footnotes when useing 
\footcite with jurabib (from the workaround at 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg27785.html)

The second question is where I file these wishes. Bugzilla seems only be 
querable for *real* bugs.

Greetings,
Tim


bibtex / Bugzilla

2005-04-25 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hi,
 I have 2 questions:

* when will Lyx be able to insert text before a citation in the citation 
dialog? 
* when will the choice between  \cite and \footcite etc. for jurabib 
supported? Including the ability to insert citations in footnotes when useing 
\footcite with jurabib (from the workaround at 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg27785.html)

The second question is where I file these wishes. Bugzilla seems only be 
querable for *real* bugs.

Greetings,
Tim


bibtex / Bugzilla

2005-04-25 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hi,
 I have 2 questions:

* when will Lyx be able to insert text before a citation in the citation 
dialog? 
* when will the choice between  \cite and \footcite etc. for jurabib 
supported? Including the ability to insert citations in footnotes when useing 
\footcite with jurabib (from the workaround at 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg27785.html)

The second question is where I file these wishes. Bugzilla seems only be 
querable for *real* bugs.

Greetings,
Tim