Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-31 Thread Jan Goebel

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Christopher Jones wrote:

 Also, when mail comes to me from the LyX list and I hit the respond button, the
 'from' address is what appears in to 'to' field. That happens to be everyone's
 personal addresses. I don't always think to replace that with the LyX list
 address, which is why some of your correspondences with me end up in your
 personal mailbox. Sorry about that. I'm usually pretty good about it, but when
 I am tired...

Look in the description of your mail client. Maybe you can say him
to what lists you have described and use a "list-reply", as i do in 
mutt by simply stroking a "l".

jan

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 DIW Berlin 
 Longitudinal Data and Microanalysis
 Knigin-Luise-Str. 5
 D-14195 Berlin -- Germany --
 phone: 49 30 89789-377
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Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-31 Thread Jan Goebel

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Christopher Jones wrote:

 Also, when mail comes to me from the LyX list and I hit the respond button, the
 'from' address is what appears in to 'to' field. That happens to be everyone's
 personal addresses. I don't always think to replace that with the LyX list
 address, which is why some of your correspondences with me end up in your
 personal mailbox. Sorry about that. I'm usually pretty good about it, but when
 I am tired...

Look in the description of your mail client. Maybe you can say him
to what lists you have described and use a "list-reply", as i do in 
mutt by simply stroking a "l".

jan

-- 
+---
 Jan Goebel (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

 DIW Berlin 
 Longitudinal Data and Microanalysis
 Knigin-Luise-Str. 5
 D-14195 Berlin -- Germany --
 phone: 49 30 89789-377
+---



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-31 Thread Jan Goebel

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Christopher Jones wrote:

> Also, when mail comes to me from the LyX list and I hit the respond button, the
> 'from' address is what appears in to 'to' field. That happens to be everyone's
> personal addresses. I don't always think to replace that with the LyX list
> address, which is why some of your correspondences with me end up in your
> personal mailbox. Sorry about that. I'm usually pretty good about it, but when
> I am tired...

Look in the description of your mail client. Maybe you can say him
to what lists you have described and use a "list-reply", as i do in 
mutt by simply stroking a "l".

jan

-- 
+---
 Jan Goebel (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

 DIW Berlin 
 Longitudinal Data and Microanalysis
 Königin-Luise-Str. 5
 D-14195 Berlin -- Germany --
 phone: 49 30 89789-377
+---



feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Christopher Jones

This is perhaps a stretch. But a while back I asked if there were plans to
support having documents open in multiple panes (I'm excited about this
feature!). It occurs to me that perhaps the same feature could be extended to
include showing another application in a pane? Something like the docked apps
that many WMs support?

The reason: I often add bib entries as I write. I often forget the keys.
Consequently, I have to keep an editor open along with LyX. But I like LyX to
be full-screen. So I have to make a little space, hang the editor barely
over the edge of LyX, and switch between. I just gets plain awkward, and it
clutters up my desktop! 

So many bib editors work 'seamlessly' with LyX... providing facility for
extending LyX's interface 'seamlessly' makes sense. And I imagine it would be
useful for other, non bib-related applications, which I haven't discovered I
need yet.

Just a thought-- I can guess that it would be complicated to do, and there
might not seem to be a great need for it. It simply would be nice, adding to
the flexibility of an already superb piece of software!



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Andre Berger

Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is perhaps a stretch. But a while back I asked if there were plans to
 support having documents open in multiple panes (I'm excited about this
 feature!). It occurs to me that perhaps the same feature could be extended to
 include showing another application in a pane? Something like the docked apps
 that many WMs support?
 
 The reason: I often add bib entries as I write. I often forget the keys.
 Consequently, I have to keep an editor open along with LyX. But I like LyX to
 be full-screen. So I have to make a little space, hang the editor barely
 over the edge of LyX, and switch between. I just gets plain awkward, and it
 clutters up my desktop! 
 
 So many bib editors work 'seamlessly' with LyX... providing facility for
 extending LyX's interface 'seamlessly' makes sense. And I imagine it would be
 useful for other, non bib-related applications, which I haven't discovered I
 need yet.
 
 Just a thought-- I can guess that it would be complicated to do, and there
 might not seem to be a great need for it. It simply would be nice, adding to
 the flexibility of an already superb piece of software!

Here's another way if you're on Linux:

Install a window manager that supports multiple desktops, like icewm
plus its configuration tool icepref. You can have, for example,
tkbibtex (which supports the .lyxpipe) on one desktop by default, LyX
on a second, and switch by a key combination between the two
desktops. You don't even have to copy and paste a bibliograhy entry
from tkbibtex, just hit the "c" key to have it inserted into LyX on
the other desktop, or wherever it's running.

The .lypipe (check your ~/.lyx/lyxrc file to activate it) is
definitely one of my favourite features!

-- 
Andre Berger[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Florian Cramer

Am Tue, 30.Jan.2001 um 21:29:32 -0600 schrieb Christopher Jones:

 It then occurred to me that I like to have the relevant bib file open in xjed,
 or other editor of choice, to add entries as I need them. Lets say I am working
 on two or three papers. It might be a while before I get back to this one. In
 the meantime, I have an xjed hanging loose on my desktop, which I get tired of
 and close. Now I am ready to get back to that particular paper, and not thinking
 about opening an xterm, cd-ing to /home/cjones/.documents/bib/Spring2001/ and
 opening leibniz.bib, start typing away, intensely lost in the argument. I make
 a point, want to cite it, can't remember the key, and now I have to stop,
 either minimize LyX or shove my mouse to the right, open xterm, cd, xjed
 xyz.bib, ... you get the picture. 

Sorry, but what you describe still strikes me as something that can be
easily done with a good window manager setup. Good window managers (fvwm,
Window Maker, sawfish, or especially my favorite larswm) allow you to
rapidly switch virtual desktops and switch / iconify and re-zoom windows
via keyboard shortcuts. LyX couldn't do this more efficiently.

For looking up bibtex keys, you can either use Ctrl+s (fast search) in jed
or and other Emacs clone, or use 'bibtool -X ' on the commandline.

Florian

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http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~cantsin/
http://www.complit.fu-berlin.de/institut/lehrpersonal/cramer.html
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Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Matej Cepl


- Original Message - 
From: Florian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface


 Am Tue, 30.Jan.2001 um 21:29:32 -0600 schrieb Christopher Jones:
 Sorry, but what you describe still strikes me as something that can be
 easily done with a good window manager setup. Good window managers (fvwm,
 Window Maker, sawfish, or especially my favorite larswm) allow you to

Certainly, that the same thing is possible with both GNOME and KDE (which I use).

Matej




feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Christopher Jones

This is perhaps a stretch. But a while back I asked if there were plans to
support having documents open in multiple panes (I'm excited about this
feature!). It occurs to me that perhaps the same feature could be extended to
include showing another application in a pane? Something like the docked apps
that many WMs support?

The reason: I often add bib entries as I write. I often forget the keys.
Consequently, I have to keep an editor open along with LyX. But I like LyX to
be full-screen. So I have to make a little space, hang the editor barely
over the edge of LyX, and switch between. I just gets plain awkward, and it
clutters up my desktop! 

So many bib editors work 'seamlessly' with LyX... providing facility for
extending LyX's interface 'seamlessly' makes sense. And I imagine it would be
useful for other, non bib-related applications, which I haven't discovered I
need yet.

Just a thought-- I can guess that it would be complicated to do, and there
might not seem to be a great need for it. It simply would be nice, adding to
the flexibility of an already superb piece of software!



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Andre Berger

Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is perhaps a stretch. But a while back I asked if there were plans to
 support having documents open in multiple panes (I'm excited about this
 feature!). It occurs to me that perhaps the same feature could be extended to
 include showing another application in a pane? Something like the docked apps
 that many WMs support?
 
 The reason: I often add bib entries as I write. I often forget the keys.
 Consequently, I have to keep an editor open along with LyX. But I like LyX to
 be full-screen. So I have to make a little space, hang the editor barely
 over the edge of LyX, and switch between. I just gets plain awkward, and it
 clutters up my desktop! 
 
 So many bib editors work 'seamlessly' with LyX... providing facility for
 extending LyX's interface 'seamlessly' makes sense. And I imagine it would be
 useful for other, non bib-related applications, which I haven't discovered I
 need yet.
 
 Just a thought-- I can guess that it would be complicated to do, and there
 might not seem to be a great need for it. It simply would be nice, adding to
 the flexibility of an already superb piece of software!

Here's another way if you're on Linux:

Install a window manager that supports multiple desktops, like icewm
plus its configuration tool icepref. You can have, for example,
tkbibtex (which supports the .lyxpipe) on one desktop by default, LyX
on a second, and switch by a key combination between the two
desktops. You don't even have to copy and paste a bibliograhy entry
from tkbibtex, just hit the "c" key to have it inserted into LyX on
the other desktop, or wherever it's running.

The .lypipe (check your ~/.lyx/lyxrc file to activate it) is
definitely one of my favourite features!

-- 
Andre Berger[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Florian Cramer

Am Tue, 30.Jan.2001 um 21:29:32 -0600 schrieb Christopher Jones:

 It then occurred to me that I like to have the relevant bib file open in xjed,
 or other editor of choice, to add entries as I need them. Lets say I am working
 on two or three papers. It might be a while before I get back to this one. In
 the meantime, I have an xjed hanging loose on my desktop, which I get tired of
 and close. Now I am ready to get back to that particular paper, and not thinking
 about opening an xterm, cd-ing to /home/cjones/.documents/bib/Spring2001/ and
 opening leibniz.bib, start typing away, intensely lost in the argument. I make
 a point, want to cite it, can't remember the key, and now I have to stop,
 either minimize LyX or shove my mouse to the right, open xterm, cd, xjed
 xyz.bib, ... you get the picture. 

Sorry, but what you describe still strikes me as something that can be
easily done with a good window manager setup. Good window managers (fvwm,
Window Maker, sawfish, or especially my favorite larswm) allow you to
rapidly switch virtual desktops and switch / iconify and re-zoom windows
via keyboard shortcuts. LyX couldn't do this more efficiently.

For looking up bibtex keys, you can either use Ctrl+s (fast search) in jed
or and other Emacs clone, or use 'bibtool -X ' on the commandline.

Florian

-- 
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~cantsin/
http://www.complit.fu-berlin.de/institut/lehrpersonal/cramer.html
PGP public key ID 6440BA05 



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Matej Cepl


- Original Message - 
From: Florian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface


 Am Tue, 30.Jan.2001 um 21:29:32 -0600 schrieb Christopher Jones:
 Sorry, but what you describe still strikes me as something that can be
 easily done with a good window manager setup. Good window managers (fvwm,
 Window Maker, sawfish, or especially my favorite larswm) allow you to

Certainly, that the same thing is possible with both GNOME and KDE (which I use).

Matej




feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Christopher Jones

This is perhaps a stretch. But a while back I asked if there were plans to
support having documents open in multiple panes (I'm excited about this
feature!). It occurs to me that perhaps the same feature could be extended to
include showing another application in a pane? Something like the docked apps
that many WMs support?

The reason: I often add bib entries as I write. I often forget the keys.
Consequently, I have to keep an editor open along with LyX. But I like LyX to
be full-screen. So I have to make a little space, hang the editor barely
over the edge of LyX, and switch between. I just gets plain awkward, and it
clutters up my desktop! 

So many bib editors work 'seamlessly' with LyX... providing facility for
extending LyX's interface 'seamlessly' makes sense. And I imagine it would be
useful for other, non bib-related applications, which I haven't discovered I
need yet.

Just a thought-- I can guess that it would be complicated to do, and there
might not seem to be a great need for it. It simply would be nice, adding to
the flexibility of an already superb piece of software!



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Andre Berger

Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is perhaps a stretch. But a while back I asked if there were plans to
> support having documents open in multiple panes (I'm excited about this
> feature!). It occurs to me that perhaps the same feature could be extended to
> include showing another application in a pane? Something like the docked apps
> that many WMs support?
> 
> The reason: I often add bib entries as I write. I often forget the keys.
> Consequently, I have to keep an editor open along with LyX. But I like LyX to
> be full-screen. So I have to make a little space, hang the editor barely
> over the edge of LyX, and switch between. I just gets plain awkward, and it
> clutters up my desktop! 
> 
> So many bib editors work 'seamlessly' with LyX... providing facility for
> extending LyX's interface 'seamlessly' makes sense. And I imagine it would be
> useful for other, non bib-related applications, which I haven't discovered I
> need yet.
> 
> Just a thought-- I can guess that it would be complicated to do, and there
> might not seem to be a great need for it. It simply would be nice, adding to
> the flexibility of an already superb piece of software!

Here's another way if you're on Linux:

Install a window manager that supports multiple desktops, like icewm
plus its configuration tool icepref. You can have, for example,
tkbibtex (which supports the .lyxpipe) on one desktop by default, LyX
on a second, and switch by a key combination between the two
desktops. You don't even have to copy and paste a bibliograhy entry
from tkbibtex, just hit the "c" key to have it inserted into LyX on
the other desktop, or wherever it's running.

The .lypipe (check your ~/.lyx/lyxrc file to activate it) is
definitely one of my favourite features!

-- 
Andre Berger[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Florian Cramer

Am Tue, 30.Jan.2001 um 21:29:32 -0600 schrieb Christopher Jones:

> It then occurred to me that I like to have the relevant bib file open in xjed,
> or other editor of choice, to add entries as I need them. Lets say I am working
> on two or three papers. It might be a while before I get back to this one. In
> the meantime, I have an xjed hanging loose on my desktop, which I get tired of
> and close. Now I am ready to get back to that particular paper, and not thinking
> about opening an xterm, cd-ing to /home/cjones/.documents/bib/Spring2001/ and
> opening leibniz.bib, start typing away, intensely lost in the argument. I make
> a point, want to cite it, can't remember the key, and now I have to stop,
> either minimize LyX or shove my mouse to the right, open xterm, cd, xjed
> xyz.bib, ... you get the picture. 

Sorry, but what you describe still strikes me as something that can be
easily done with a good window manager setup. Good window managers (fvwm,
Window Maker, sawfish, or especially my favorite larswm) allow you to
rapidly switch virtual desktops and switch / iconify and re-zoom windows
via keyboard shortcuts. LyX couldn't do this more efficiently.

For looking up bibtex keys, you can either use Ctrl+s (fast search) in jed
or and other Emacs clone, or use 'bibtool -X ' on the commandline.

Florian

-- 
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~cantsin/
http://www.complit.fu-berlin.de/institut/lehrpersonal/cramer.html
PGP public key ID 6440BA05 



Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface

2001-01-30 Thread Matej Cepl


- Original Message - 
From: Florian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: LyX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: feature suggestion -- extending LyX interface


> Am Tue, 30.Jan.2001 um 21:29:32 -0600 schrieb Christopher Jones:
> Sorry, but what you describe still strikes me as something that can be
> easily done with a good window manager setup. Good window managers (fvwm,
> Window Maker, sawfish, or especially my favorite larswm) allow you to

Certainly, that the same thing is possible with both GNOME and KDE (which I use).

Matej