Re: latex font question

2002-12-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:53:58PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 We had a code for math shortcuts: typing = would create \leq etc.
 However, this code was not applied (why?), so this feature wouldn't appear
 before version 1.4.0.

The code is there, but disabled. The reason was that I did not find the
time to come up with a fairly complete list of symbols and find a simple,
comprehensable system of what symbols are related.

So I thought it'd better not to deliver the feature at all than to give
access to some half-baked version and earn collective outcries in the
next version when behaviour changes again.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)



Re: latex font question

2002-12-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:53:58PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 We had a code for math shortcuts: typing = would create \leq etc.
 However, this code was not applied (why?), so this feature wouldn't appear
 before version 1.4.0.

The code is there, but disabled. The reason was that I did not find the
time to come up with a fairly complete list of symbols and find a simple,
comprehensable system of what symbols are related.

So I thought it'd better not to deliver the feature at all than to give
access to some half-baked version and earn collective outcries in the
next version when behaviour changes again.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)



Re: latex font question

2002-12-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:53:58PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> We had a code for math shortcuts: typing <= would create \leq etc.
> However, this code was not applied (why?), so this feature wouldn't appear
> before version 1.4.0.

The code is there, but disabled. The reason was that I did not find the
time to come up with a fairly complete list of symbols and find a simple,
comprehensable system of what symbols are "related".

So I thought it'd better not to deliver the feature at all than to give
access to some half-baked version and earn collective outcries in the
next version when behaviour changes again.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)



Re: latex font question

2002-12-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:48:54PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 Math macros? Ive heard of them but have not worked out what they are and 
 how to use them yet. what I wish to do is replace something like (1,0) 
 with the longer notation which in tex is $A^{2}\Sigma -X^{2}\Pi 
 \left(1-0\right)$.  
 
 Its one of those things that for day to day you can just say (1,0) and 
 you make perfect sense but put it in writing and you look like a fool 
 (and the above notation in tex is just the short version of the full 
 thing). As such it would be nice to type (1,0) and have it turn into the 
 above when the dvi is exported.

We had a code for math shortcuts: typing = would create \leq etc.
However, this code was not applied (why?), so this feature wouldn't appear
before version 1.4.0.



Re: latex font question

2002-12-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:48:54PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 Math macros? Ive heard of them but have not worked out what they are and 
 how to use them yet. what I wish to do is replace something like (1,0) 
 with the longer notation which in tex is $A^{2}\Sigma -X^{2}\Pi 
 \left(1-0\right)$.  
 
 Its one of those things that for day to day you can just say (1,0) and 
 you make perfect sense but put it in writing and you look like a fool 
 (and the above notation in tex is just the short version of the full 
 thing). As such it would be nice to type (1,0) and have it turn into the 
 above when the dvi is exported.

We had a code for math shortcuts: typing = would create \leq etc.
However, this code was not applied (why?), so this feature wouldn't appear
before version 1.4.0.



Re: latex font question

2002-12-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:48:54PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
> Math macros? Ive heard of them but have not worked out what they are and 
> how to use them yet. what I wish to do is replace something like "(1,0)" 
> with the longer notation which in tex is $A^{2}\Sigma -X^{2}\Pi 
> \left(1-0\right)$.  
> 
> Its one of those things that for day to day you can just say (1,0) and 
> you make perfect sense but put it in writing and you look like a fool 
> (and the above notation in tex is just the short version of the full 
> thing). As such it would be nice to type (1,0) and have it turn into the 
> above when the dvi is exported.

We had a code for math shortcuts: typing <= would create \leq etc.
However, this code was not applied (why?), so this feature wouldn't appear
before version 1.4.0.



Re: latex font question

2002-12-11 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:32:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
 anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
 wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
 notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.

One could probably do that but the tide is turning against these hard-coded
bits...

What exactly are you trying to achieve? I have a strong feeling that we
might be able to (ab)use math macros to do what you want...

Andre'

-- 
A: No. See http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply ?




Re: latex font question

2002-12-11 Thread Owen Lucas


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Math macros? Ive heard of them but have not worked out what they are and 
how to use them yet. what I wish to do is replace something like (1,0) 
with the longer notation which in tex is $A^{2}\Sigma -X^{2}\Pi 
\left(1-0\right)$.  

Its one of those things that for day to day you can just say (1,0) and 
you make perfect sense but put it in writing and you look like a fool 
(and the above notation in tex is just the short version of the full 
thing). As such it would be nice to type (1,0) and have it turn into the 
above when the dvi is exported.

There is several notations like this that if I could streem line them it 
could make things easyer.
If Maths macros can do this then Ill look into them

cheers
owen

Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:32:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 

Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.
   


One could probably do that but the tide is turning against these hard-coded
bits...

What exactly are you trying to achieve? I have a strong feeling that we
might be able to (ab)use math macros to do what you want...

Andre'

 



---End Message---


Re: latex font question

2002-12-11 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:32:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
 anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
 wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
 notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.

One could probably do that but the tide is turning against these hard-coded
bits...

What exactly are you trying to achieve? I have a strong feeling that we
might be able to (ab)use math macros to do what you want...

Andre'

-- 
A: No. See http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply ?




Re: latex font question

2002-12-11 Thread Owen Lucas


---BeginMessage---

Math macros? Ive heard of them but have not worked out what they are and 
how to use them yet. what I wish to do is replace something like (1,0) 
with the longer notation which in tex is $A^{2}\Sigma -X^{2}\Pi 
\left(1-0\right)$.  

Its one of those things that for day to day you can just say (1,0) and 
you make perfect sense but put it in writing and you look like a fool 
(and the above notation in tex is just the short version of the full 
thing). As such it would be nice to type (1,0) and have it turn into the 
above when the dvi is exported.

There is several notations like this that if I could streem line them it 
could make things easyer.
If Maths macros can do this then Ill look into them

cheers
owen

Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:32:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 

Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.
   


One could probably do that but the tide is turning against these hard-coded
bits...

What exactly are you trying to achieve? I have a strong feeling that we
might be able to (ab)use math macros to do what you want...

Andre'

 



---End Message---


Re: latex font question

2002-12-11 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:32:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
> Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
> anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
> wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
> notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.

One could probably do that but the tide is turning against these hard-coded
bits...

What exactly are you trying to achieve? I have a strong feeling that we
might be able to (ab)use math macros to do what you want...

Andre'

-- 
A: No. See http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply ?




Re: latex font question

2002-12-11 Thread Owen Lucas


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Math macros? Ive heard of them but have not worked out what they are and 
how to use them yet. what I wish to do is replace something like "(1,0)" 
with the longer notation which in tex is $A^{2}\Sigma -X^{2}\Pi 
\left(1-0\right)$.  

Its one of those things that for day to day you can just say (1,0) and 
you make perfect sense but put it in writing and you look like a fool 
(and the above notation in tex is just the short version of the full 
thing). As such it would be nice to type (1,0) and have it turn into the 
above when the dvi is exported.

There is several notations like this that if I could streem line them it 
could make things easyer.
If Maths macros can do this then Ill look into them

cheers
owen

Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:32:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 

Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.
   


One could probably do that but the tide is turning against these hard-coded
bits...

What exactly are you trying to achieve? I have a strong feeling that we
might be able to (ab)use math macros to do what you want...

Andre'

 



--- End Message ---


Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Owen Lucas

Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'






Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Paul Medwell
what do you mean by putting words in scientific notation?


Owen Lucas wrote:


Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'











Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Owen Lucas
Well its a bit hard to show you with just text but sometimes I use typed 
notation which should be a lot more and it would take a long time to 
type in with tex or the maths panel. It would be nice to be able to type 
in (1,0) and have it magically end up as all the maths (spectroscopic) 
stuff it should be. And to your question on lyxcode try puting

\renewenvironment{lyxcode} {\begin{list}{}{\huge\ttfamily}\item[]} 
{\end{list}}

in your preamble. You shuld have just come down and I would have given 
it to you.

cheers
owen

Paul Medwell wrote:

what do you mean by putting words in scientific notation?


Owen Lucas wrote:


 Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not
 find anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was
 also wondering if I could use this to replace words with some
 scientific notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


 Andre Poenitz wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

 I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
 Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
 ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


 LaTeX never does this.

 In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
 src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

 Andre'












Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Owen Lucas

Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'






Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Paul Medwell
what do you mean by putting words in scientific notation?


Owen Lucas wrote:


Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'











Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Owen Lucas
Well its a bit hard to show you with just text but sometimes I use typed 
notation which should be a lot more and it would take a long time to 
type in with tex or the maths panel. It would be nice to be able to type 
in (1,0) and have it magically end up as all the maths (spectroscopic) 
stuff it should be. And to your question on lyxcode try puting

\renewenvironment{lyxcode} {\begin{list}{}{\huge\ttfamily}\item[]} 
{\end{list}}

in your preamble. You shuld have just come down and I would have given 
it to you.

cheers
owen

Paul Medwell wrote:

what do you mean by putting words in scientific notation?


Owen Lucas wrote:


 Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not
 find anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was
 also wondering if I could use this to replace words with some
 scientific notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


 Andre Poenitz wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

 I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
 Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
 ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


 LaTeX never does this.

 In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
 src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

 Andre'












Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Owen Lucas

Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

>I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
>Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
>ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'






Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Paul Medwell
what do you mean by putting words in scientific notation?


Owen Lucas wrote:


Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not find 
anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was also 
wondering if I could use this to replace words with some scientific 
notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.


Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:

>I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
>Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
>ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}


LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'











Re: latex font question

2002-12-10 Thread Owen Lucas
Well its a bit hard to show you with just text but sometimes I use typed 
notation which should be a lot more and it would take a long time to 
type in with tex or the maths panel. It would be nice to be able to type 
in (1,0) and have it magically end up as all the maths (spectroscopic) 
stuff it should be. And to your question on lyxcode try puting

\renewenvironment{lyxcode} {\begin{list}{}{\huge\ttfamily}\item[]} 
{\end{list}}

in your preamble. You shuld have just come down and I would have given 
it to you.

cheers
owen

Paul Medwell wrote:

what do you mean by putting words in scientific notation?


Owen Lucas wrote:

>
> Thanks I was just wanting to know how this was done as I could not
> find anything in the .cls or .layout files that would do this. I was
> also wondering if I could use this to replace words with some
> scientific notation without seeing all the mess in lyx.
>
>
> Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
>>
>> >I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word
>> >Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
>> >ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}
>>
>>
>> LaTeX never does this.
>>
>> In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
>> src/paragraph_pimpl.C.
>>
>> Andre'
>>
>
>









latex font question

2002-12-09 Thread Owen Lucas
I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word 
Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}

cheers
oz



Re: latex font question

2002-12-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word 
 Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
 ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}

LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)



latex font question

2002-12-09 Thread Owen Lucas
I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word 
Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}

cheers
oz



Re: latex font question

2002-12-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
 I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word 
 Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
 ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}

LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)



latex font question

2002-12-09 Thread Owen Lucas
I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word 
Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}

cheers
oz



Re: latex font question

2002-12-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:54:28PM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote:
> I want to know where and how Latex recognises Latex and puts the word 
> Latex in the latex wacky superscript subscript font?
> ie where it sees LaTeX it puts \LaTeX{}

LaTeX never does this.

In case of LyX there is some braindead hard-coded mapping in
src/paragraph_pimpl.C.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security,
will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)