Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote: The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He works on TeXniccenter. :-( But a major drawback - as stated in my initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including citation inside footnotes and outside. Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it sounds as if JuraBib is just the think for people like me. So far I am manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same? All citations should be able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes. What do you mean by a see-option? Janus -- Roskilde University, Denmark. Department of Technology and Social Science. International Development Studies. ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote: The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He works on TeXniccenter. :-( But a major drawback - as stated in my initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including citation inside footnotes and outside. Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it sounds as if JuraBib is just the think for people like me. So far I am manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same? All citations should be able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes. What do you mean by a see-option? Janus -- Roskilde University, Denmark. Department of Technology and Social Science. International Development Studies. ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 12:20, Tim Michelsen wrote: > The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. > He works on TeXniccenter. :-( But a major drawback - as stated in my > initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) > including citation inside footnotes and outside. Subscribe! I am also looking very much forward to this possibility since I prefer citations in footnotes over those in (brackets) in the text - and it sounds as if JuraBib is just "the think" for people like me. So far I am manageing by a pragmatic solution: inserting my bib-references in footnotes created manually. Maybe your colleague could do the same? > All citations should be > able to have a "see"-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes. What do you mean by a "see"-option? Janus -- Roskilde University, Denmark. Department of Technology and Social Science. International Development Studies. ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 06:58:12PM +0200, Tim Michelsen wrote: ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Well, a C and C++ compiler, of course. Last time I saw that error message I had gcc installed, but the the partition containing the installation was mounted 'noexec'. Andre'
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On May 1, 2005, at 10:48, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 06:58:12PM +0200, Tim Michelsen wrote: ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Well, a C and C++ compiler, of course. Last time I saw that error message I had gcc installed, but the the partition containing the installation was mounted 'noexec'. Your (Tim's) best bet is to follow instructions. The file 'config.log' should have more detailed information about what went wrong. If you can't figure it out from there, post the (tail of the) log, so others can have a look. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals. Well, except the weasel. - Homer J Simpson
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 06:58:12PM +0200, Tim Michelsen wrote: ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Well, a C and C++ compiler, of course. Last time I saw that error message I had gcc installed, but the the partition containing the installation was mounted 'noexec'. Andre'
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On May 1, 2005, at 10:48, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 06:58:12PM +0200, Tim Michelsen wrote: ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Well, a C and C++ compiler, of course. Last time I saw that error message I had gcc installed, but the the partition containing the installation was mounted 'noexec'. Your (Tim's) best bet is to follow instructions. The file 'config.log' should have more detailed information about what went wrong. If you can't figure it out from there, post the (tail of the) log, so others can have a look. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals. Well, except the weasel. - Homer J Simpson
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 06:58:12PM +0200, Tim Michelsen wrote: > > ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 > I get this error: > > checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C > compiler cannot create executables > See `config.log' for more details. > > Do I need to install any package? Well, a C and C++ compiler, of course. Last time I saw that error message I had gcc installed, but the the partition containing the installation was mounted 'noexec'. Andre'
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On May 1, 2005, at 10:48, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 06:58:12PM +0200, Tim Michelsen wrote: ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Well, a C and C++ compiler, of course. Last time I saw that error message I had gcc installed, but the the partition containing the installation was mounted 'noexec'. Your (Tim's) best bet is to follow instructions. The file 'config.log' should have more detailed information about what went wrong. If you can't figure it out from there, post the (tail of the) log, so others can have a look. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics "Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals. Well, except the weasel." - Homer J Simpson
installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
Am Freitag, 29. April 2005 16:20 schrieb Georg Baum On Freitag, 29. April 2005 16:20 you wrote: Tim Michelsen wrote: Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh Ok, today it worked with ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Thanks, Tim
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On 5/1/05, Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh Ok, today it worked with ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? It is not a direct answer to your question, but you can get a daily updated tarball for LyX 1.4cvs at: ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/ I have never experienced any problem with compiling this tarball. Paul
installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
Am Freitag, 29. April 2005 16:20 schrieb Georg Baum On Freitag, 29. April 2005 16:20 you wrote: Tim Michelsen wrote: Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh Ok, today it worked with ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Thanks, Tim
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On 5/1/05, Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh Ok, today it worked with ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? It is not a direct answer to your question, but you can get a daily updated tarball for LyX 1.4cvs at: ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/ I have never experienced any problem with compiling this tarball. Paul
installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
Am Freitag, 29. April 2005 16:20 schrieb Georg Baum On Freitag, 29. April 2005 16:20 you wrote: > Tim Michelsen wrote: > >> > "Tim" == Tim Michelsen > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> Tim> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file > >> Tim> in the local directory. > >> > >> Type > >> ./autogen.sh > > Ok, today it worked with ./autogen.sh > ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Do I need to install any package? Thanks, Tim
Re: installing cvs [Re: lyx bugfix releases]
On 5/1/05, Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Tim> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file > > >> Tim> in the local directory. > > >> > > >> Type > > >> ./autogen.sh > > > > Ok, today it worked with ./autogen.sh > > > ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 > I get this error: > > checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C > compiler cannot create executables > See `config.log' for more details. > > Do I need to install any package? It is not a direct answer to your question, but you can get a daily updated tarball for LyX 1.4cvs at: ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/ I have never experienced any problem with compiling this tarball. Paul
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Am Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller On Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 you wrote: Tim Michelsen wrote: I am also ready to do this. That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib stuff. What to I have to do for that? get a CVS copy? It's pretty easy. Read http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local directory. Greetings, Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh JMarc
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh And how do I set it up to run parallel to my stable debian release? Like lyx = stable lyx-1.4 = cvs-version Thanks, Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh I now get this: $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake 1.[5-9]. Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh Tim I now get this: Tim $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake Tim version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake Tim 1.[5-9]. Does your debian version provide other versions of automake? JMarc
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake Tim version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake Tim 1.[5-9]. Does your debian version provide other versions of automake? I have version 1.7 on my system. Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim Michelsen wrote: Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh And how do I set it up to run parallel to my stable debian release? ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 (and maybe also --prefix=/my/special/path). If you are running debian stable you must use STLPort (if you want to use the qt frontend) or a more recent compiler than gcc 2.95, because the STL of gcc 2.95 is too old and not standard compliant enough for LyX 1.4. Both stlport and newer gccs (IIR everything from 3.0 upwards works) area available as .debs either from debian or backports.org. Georg
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Tim Michelsen wrote: http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local directory. You have to run the autogen.sh script first (as described in section compiling the sources). Regards, Jürgen
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Am Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller On Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 you wrote: Tim Michelsen wrote: I am also ready to do this. That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib stuff. What to I have to do for that? get a CVS copy? It's pretty easy. Read http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local directory. Greetings, Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh JMarc
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh And how do I set it up to run parallel to my stable debian release? Like lyx = stable lyx-1.4 = cvs-version Thanks, Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh I now get this: $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake 1.[5-9]. Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh Tim I now get this: Tim $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake Tim version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake Tim 1.[5-9]. Does your debian version provide other versions of automake? JMarc
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake Tim version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake Tim 1.[5-9]. Does your debian version provide other versions of automake? I have version 1.7 on my system. Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim Michelsen wrote: Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh And how do I set it up to run parallel to my stable debian release? ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 (and maybe also --prefix=/my/special/path). If you are running debian stable you must use STLPort (if you want to use the qt frontend) or a more recent compiler than gcc 2.95, because the STL of gcc 2.95 is too old and not standard compliant enough for LyX 1.4. Both stlport and newer gccs (IIR everything from 3.0 upwards works) area available as .debs either from debian or backports.org. Georg
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Tim Michelsen wrote: http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local directory. You have to run the autogen.sh script first (as described in section compiling the sources). Regards, Jürgen
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Am Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller On Mittwoch, 27. April 2005 12:27 you wrote: > Tim Michelsen wrote: > > I am also ready to do this. > > That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib > stuff. > > > What to I have to do for that? > > get a CVS copy? > > It's pretty easy. Read > http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the local directory. Greetings, Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
> "Tim" == Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tim> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim> in the local directory. Type ./autogen.sh JMarc
Re: lyx bugfix releases
> > "Tim" == Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tim> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file > Tim> in the local directory. > > Type > ./autogen.sh And how do I set it up to run parallel to my stable debian release? Like lyx = stable lyx-1.4 = cvs-version Thanks, Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
> > "Tim" == Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tim> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file > Tim> in the local directory. > > Type > ./autogen.sh I now get this: $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake 1.[5-9]. Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
> "Tim" == Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > "Tim" == Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Tim> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file Tim> in the local directory. >> Type ./autogen.sh Tim> I now get this: Tim> $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake Tim> version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake Tim> 1.[5-9]. Does your debian version provide other versions of automake? JMarc
Re: lyx bugfix releases
> Tim> $ ./autogen.sh Using automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 This automake > Tim> version is not supported by LyX. LyX only supports automake > Tim> 1.[5-9]. > > Does your debian version provide other versions of automake? I have version 1.7 on my system. Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Tim Michelsen wrote: > >> > "Tim" == Tim Michelsen >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Tim> I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file >> Tim> in the local directory. >> >> Type >> ./autogen.sh > And how do I set it up to run parallel to my stable debian release? ./configure --with-version-suffix=1.4 (and maybe also --prefix=/my/special/path). If you are running debian stable you must use STLPort (if you want to use the qt frontend) or a more recent compiler than gcc 2.95, because the STL of gcc 2.95 is too old and not standard compliant enough for LyX 1.4. Both stlport and newer gccs (IIR everything from 3.0 upwards works) area available as .debs either from debian or backports.org. Georg
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Tim Michelsen wrote: > > http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 > > I downloaded the lyx-devel but I don't have any ./configure file in the > local directory. You have to run the autogen.sh script first (as described in section "compiling the sources"). Regards, Jürgen
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be pretty stable however. I am also ready to do this. What to I have to do for that? get a CVS copy? Or do you have *.debs? Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision. I hope this info doesn't dissuade you. The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He works on TeXniccenter. :-( But a major drawback - as stated in my initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including citation inside footnotes and outside. All citations should be able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes. Well if there'll be input before citations I will be satisfied for most of my natbib-based work. Go on! Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Tim Michelsen wrote: I am also ready to do this. That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib stuff. What to I have to do for that? get a CVS copy? It's pretty easy. Read http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 Or do you have *.debs? AFAIK no. There are snapshots, but only as src and rpm. ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/ Jürgen
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Angus Leeming wrote: So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've had before. I hope. Thanks much for the info, I'm mainly a lyx/win user myself, so improvements in that field are of course very welcome. Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. without promising too much here, what would be more useful on windows right now: testing upcoming 1.3.6 or 1.4? -sven
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Sven Schreiber wrote: So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've had before. I hope. Thanks much for the info, I'm mainly a lyx/win user myself, so improvements in that field are of course very welcome. Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. without promising too much here, what would be more useful on windows right now: testing upcoming 1.3.6 or 1.4? As a LyX/Win user? Testing LyX 1.3.6-to be. I have a few more things to commit before LyX will compile out of the box on Windows (mingw compiler only for LyX 1.3.6). Thereafter, I'll post an announcement here looking for testers and I'll put the binary somewhere accessible. Give me a week or so. -- Angus
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be pretty stable however. I am also ready to do this. What to I have to do for that? get a CVS copy? Or do you have *.debs? Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision. I hope this info doesn't dissuade you. The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He works on TeXniccenter. :-( But a major drawback - as stated in my initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including citation inside footnotes and outside. All citations should be able to have a see-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes. Well if there'll be input before citations I will be satisfied for most of my natbib-based work. Go on! Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Tim Michelsen wrote: I am also ready to do this. That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib stuff. What to I have to do for that? get a CVS copy? It's pretty easy. Read http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 Or do you have *.debs? AFAIK no. There are snapshots, but only as src and rpm. ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/ Jürgen
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Angus Leeming wrote: So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've had before. I hope. Thanks much for the info, I'm mainly a lyx/win user myself, so improvements in that field are of course very welcome. Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. without promising too much here, what would be more useful on windows right now: testing upcoming 1.3.6 or 1.4? -sven
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Sven Schreiber wrote: So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've had before. I hope. Thanks much for the info, I'm mainly a lyx/win user myself, so improvements in that field are of course very welcome. Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. without promising too much here, what would be more useful on windows right now: testing upcoming 1.3.6 or 1.4? As a LyX/Win user? Testing LyX 1.3.6-to be. I have a few more things to commit before LyX will compile out of the box on Windows (mingw compiler only for LyX 1.3.6). Thereafter, I'll post an announcement here looking for testers and I'll put the binary somewhere accessible. Give me a week or so. -- Angus
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
> Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy > supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. > That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is > not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be > pretty stable however. I am also ready to do this. What to I have to do for that? get a CVS copy? Or do you have *.debs? > > Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's > > just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... > about how to put it> ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right > > decision. > > I hope this info doesn't dissuade you. The whole thing is great. I think I collegue of mine will soon move over. He works on TeXniccenter. :-( But a major drawback - as stated in my initial post - he needs a citation method for humanities (economies) including citation inside footnotes and outside. All citations should be able to have a "see"-option like in jurabib and appear as footnotes. Well if there'll be input before citations I will be satisfied for most of my natbib-based work. Go on! Tim
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Tim Michelsen wrote: > I am also ready to do this. That's good. Especially if you are intending to stress-test the jurabib stuff. > What to I have to do for that? > get a CVS copy? It's pretty easy. Read http://www.devel.lyx.org/cvs.php3 > Or do you have *.debs? AFAIK no. There are snapshots, but only as src and rpm. ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx/devel/ Jürgen
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Angus Leeming wrote: > > So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then > blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect > me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've > had before. I hope. Thanks much for the info, I'm mainly a lyx/win user myself, so improvements in that field are of course very welcome. > > Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy > supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. > That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. without promising too much here, what would be more useful on windows right now: testing upcoming 1.3.6 or 1.4? -sven
Re: lyx bugfix releases
Sven Schreiber wrote: >> So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then >> blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect >> me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything >> they've had before. I hope. > > Thanks much for the info, I'm mainly a lyx/win user myself, so > improvements in that field are of course very welcome. > >> >> Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy >> supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. >> That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. > > without promising too much here, what would be more useful on windows > right now: testing upcoming 1.3.6 or 1.4? As a LyX/Win user? Testing LyX 1.3.6-to be. I have a few more things to commit before LyX will compile out of the box on Windows (mingw compiler only for LyX 1.3.6). Thereafter, I'll post an announcement here looking for testers and I'll put the binary somewhere accessible. Give me a week or so. -- Angus
lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: LyX 1.4 will support this. Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I understand it has to be ready etc. etc. But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now? I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions. Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision. cheers, sven
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Sven Schreiber wrote: LyX 1.4 will support this. Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I understand it has to be ready etc. etc. But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now? We're slowly putting together LyX 1.3.6. It will of course contain many little bug fixes. You can see the current list of such changes here: http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/Attic/status.13x?rev=1.1.2.244only_with_tag=BRANCH_1_3_Xcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Equivalent URL: http://tinyurl.com/bpcfh However, LyX 1.3.6 will actually be a *big* patch on LyX 1.3.5 because I decided to merge Ruurd's LyX/Win port into the official sources and Jean-Marc agreed to let me do so to the LyX 1.3.x code base. (Ruurd's port was based on the official LyX 1.3.x code.) This merger hasn't just been a cut-and-paste job. Instead, I've tried to do the right thing with each piece of changed code. I'd like to think that LyX/Unix and LyX/Mac users won't be affected at all by this work because much of the new code is compiled only under Windows, however, only time will tell. So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've had before. I hope. I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions. LyX 1.4.x is in feature freeze. If you listen to most everybody else on that list other than me, you'll find that they're all busy fixing bugs in the LyX 1.4.x code base. Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be pretty stable however. Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision. I hope this info doesn't dissuade you. cheers, sven -- Angus
lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: LyX 1.4 will support this. Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I understand it has to be ready etc. etc. But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now? I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions. Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision. cheers, sven
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Sven Schreiber wrote: LyX 1.4 will support this. Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I understand it has to be ready etc. etc. But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now? We're slowly putting together LyX 1.3.6. It will of course contain many little bug fixes. You can see the current list of such changes here: http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/Attic/status.13x?rev=1.1.2.244only_with_tag=BRANCH_1_3_Xcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Equivalent URL: http://tinyurl.com/bpcfh However, LyX 1.3.6 will actually be a *big* patch on LyX 1.3.5 because I decided to merge Ruurd's LyX/Win port into the official sources and Jean-Marc agreed to let me do so to the LyX 1.3.x code base. (Ruurd's port was based on the official LyX 1.3.x code.) This merger hasn't just been a cut-and-paste job. Instead, I've tried to do the right thing with each piece of changed code. I'd like to think that LyX/Unix and LyX/Mac users won't be affected at all by this work because much of the new code is compiled only under Windows, however, only time will tell. So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've had before. I hope. I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions. LyX 1.4.x is in feature freeze. If you listen to most everybody else on that list other than me, you'll find that they're all busy fixing bugs in the LyX 1.4.x code base. Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be pretty stable however. Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... thinks about how to put it ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision. I hope this info doesn't dissuade you. cheers, sven -- Angus
lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > LyX 1.4 will support this. Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I understand it has to be ready etc. etc. But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now? I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions. Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right decision. cheers, sven
Re: lyx bugfix releases (was: Re: bibtex / Bugzilla)
Sven Schreiber wrote: >> LyX 1.4 will support this. > > Ok, I will restrain myself and _not_ ask when this will be released -- I > understand it has to be ready etc. etc. > > But what about regular small bugfixes, the last version was released > more than half a year ago, surely at least some of the quirks we > lyx-users are working around (more or less often) have been fixed by now? We're slowly putting together LyX 1.3.6. It will of course contain many little bug fixes. You can see the current list of such changes here: http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/Attic/status.13x?rev=1.1.2.244_with_tag=BRANCH_1_3_X=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Equivalent URL: http://tinyurl.com/bpcfh However, LyX 1.3.6 will actually be a *big* patch on LyX 1.3.5 because I decided to merge Ruurd's LyX/Win port into the official sources and Jean-Marc agreed to let me do so to the LyX 1.3.x code base. (Ruurd's port was based on the official LyX 1.3.x code.) This merger hasn't just been a cut-and-paste job. Instead, I've tried to "do the right thing" with each piece of changed code. I'd like to think that LyX/Unix and LyX/Mac users won't be affected at all by this work because much of the new code is compiled only under Windows, however, only time will tell. So, if you want someone to blame for the slow release of LyX 1.3.6, then blame me :) Of course, I'll have a vast army of LyX/Win users to protect me because they'll find LyX/Win 1.3.6 is much better than anything they've had before. I hope. > I have been loosely following the devel-list to get a clue on this, but > frankly don't understand the development process enough to make sense of > what the buzzing there means in terms of new versions. LyX 1.4.x is in feature freeze. If you listen to most everybody else on that list other than me, you'll find that they're all busy fixing bugs in the LyX 1.4.x code base. Helge Hafting has made it over from the user-side and is busy supplying us with bug reports of things that go wrong with LyX 1.4.x. That's a great way for you or anybody else to help too. Of course, this is not bug-free code, so please back up your files first. It does seem to be pretty stable however. > Thanks of course for all the effort that is being put into lyx, it's > just that regular updates would somehow make me feel more ... about how to put it> ... convinced that choosing lyx was the right > decision. I hope this info doesn't dissuade you. > cheers, > sven -- Angus
