off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
Hi

I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
work, but not from home?

Traceroute from work gives:
/usr/sbin/traceroute www.educat.hu-berlin.de
traceroute to teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  bulten.damek.kth.se (130.237.57.2)  0.720 ms  0.654 ms  0.601 ms
 2  kth1-cn4-b.gw.kth.se (130.237.211.233)  0.495 ms  0.454 ms  0.576 ms
 3  stockholm3-SRP2.sunet.se (130.242.85.65)  0.814 ms  0.911 ms  0.743 ms
 4  stockholm1-POS6.sunet.se (130.242.82.25)  1.195 ms  1.023 ms  1.280 ms
 5  s-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.181)  1.069 ms  0.814 ms  1.053 ms
 6  sw-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.129)  0.973 ms  0.859 ms  0.888 ms
 7  nordunet.se1.se.geant.net (62.40.103.117)  1.019 ms  1.158 ms  1.165 ms
 8  se.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.96.65)  22.891 ms  22.879 ms  22.930 ms
 9  de2-1.de1.de.geant.net (62.40.96.129)  23.690 ms  22.986 ms  22.921 ms
10  ir-frankfurt2.g-win.dfn.de (62.40.103.34)  23.180 ms  23.237 ms 23.213 ms
11  cr-frankfurt1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.80.37)  23.433 ms  23.367 ms  23.332 ms
12  cr-berlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.186)  32.357 ms  32.307 ms  32.566 ms
13  ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.20.2)  32.651 ms  32.470 ms  32.409 ms
14  194.94.12.101 (194.94.12.101)  32.459 ms  32.684 ms  32.613 ms
15  141.20.16.14 (141.20.16.14)  32.916 ms  32.795 ms  32.753 ms
16  teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13)  33.162 ms *  33.107 ms

and everything is fine, whereas from home:

/usr/sbin/traceroute www.educat.hu-berlin.de
traceroute to teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.123.254 (192.168.123.254)  2.037 ms  1.122 ms  1.059 ms
 2  217.215.26.1 (217.215.26.1)  27.768 ms  14.439 ms  14.230 ms
 3  ar1sbk1-geth0-0-0.fre.skanova.net (195.67.220.77)  14.480 ms  14.189 ms  14.269 ms
 4  fre-d1-geth7-1.se.telia.net (195.67.220.73)  14.417 ms  14.667 ms  14.258 ms 5  
hy-b1-pos11-0.se.telia.net (195.67.220.157)  16.533 ms  14.509 ms  14.939 ms
 6  s-b4-pos13-0.telia.net (213.248.66.17)  14.434 ms  14.448 ms  14.773 ms
 7  s-bb1-pos5-0-0.telia.net (213.248.66.5)  14.451 ms  14.490 ms  14.451 ms
 8  hbg-bb1-pos0-2-0.telia.net (213.248.64.78)  35.117 ms  35.026 ms  34.844 ms
 9  213.248.65.46 (213.248.65.46)  30.878 ms  30.810 ms  30.765 ms
10  dante-01616-hbg-b1.c.telia.net (213.248.103.98)  33.769 ms  30.976 ms  31.029 ms
11  cr-berlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.197)  40.184 ms  39.357 ms  40.265 ms
12  ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.20.2)  39.663 ms  39.678 ms  39.612 ms
13  * * *
and then nothing.


Can this be because of something in my computer, or is it related to my ISP?
I.e., is there any point in me trying to check my firewall etc.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 Hi
 
 I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
 why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
 work, but not from home?

My ISP actually answered when I called, but without a result... they 
advised me to call Germany!!!

/C
-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:58:37PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
   I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
   why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
   work, but not from home?
  
  My ISP actually answered when I called, but without a result... they 
  advised me to call Germany!!!
 
 Is calling Germany!!! exceptionally difficult in Sweden?   ;-)
 
Oh, not at all!
And it's so easy to get hold of systems administrators in 
general, right ;-)  I mean, they're not busy anyway...

Of course, if I use the phone I also get to practice my German as well. 
But wait, how do I find the phone number to... let me see:

 ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de 

oh, I know... just look it up in the yellow pages...

Instead it seems easier (and more fun) to try and install some 
kind of tunneling software at work and go through that...
(I can use that for other stuff as well... like MATLAB license servers)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se




Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread robin
Christian Ridderström wrote:

Hi

I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
work, but not from home?

Does your ISP employ censorware?  It's amazing the kind of stuff these 
programs filter out (e.g. some people can't get at my philosophy and 
linguistics site, and one of my students couldn't download Rousseau's 
Discourse on Inequality from home).  Maybe all those references to latex 
trigger some anti-fetish subroutine ;-)

Robin

--
 Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and 
picke quarrells.
- G. Pettie

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin




Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, robin wrote:

 Christian Ridderström wrote:
  Hi
  
  I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
  why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
  work, but not from home?
 
 Does your ISP employ censorware?  It's amazing the kind of stuff these 
 programs filter out (e.g. some people can't get at my philosophy and 
 linguistics site, and one of my students couldn't download Rousseau's 
 Discourse on Inequality from home).  Maybe all those references to latex 
 trigger some anti-fetish subroutine ;-)

No, he actually said they don't have any filters at all... but I like your 
latex-theory :-)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
Hi

I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
work, but not from home?

Traceroute from work gives:
/usr/sbin/traceroute www.educat.hu-berlin.de
traceroute to teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  bulten.damek.kth.se (130.237.57.2)  0.720 ms  0.654 ms  0.601 ms
 2  kth1-cn4-b.gw.kth.se (130.237.211.233)  0.495 ms  0.454 ms  0.576 ms
 3  stockholm3-SRP2.sunet.se (130.242.85.65)  0.814 ms  0.911 ms  0.743 ms
 4  stockholm1-POS6.sunet.se (130.242.82.25)  1.195 ms  1.023 ms  1.280 ms
 5  s-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.181)  1.069 ms  0.814 ms  1.053 ms
 6  sw-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.129)  0.973 ms  0.859 ms  0.888 ms
 7  nordunet.se1.se.geant.net (62.40.103.117)  1.019 ms  1.158 ms  1.165 ms
 8  se.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.96.65)  22.891 ms  22.879 ms  22.930 ms
 9  de2-1.de1.de.geant.net (62.40.96.129)  23.690 ms  22.986 ms  22.921 ms
10  ir-frankfurt2.g-win.dfn.de (62.40.103.34)  23.180 ms  23.237 ms 23.213 ms
11  cr-frankfurt1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.80.37)  23.433 ms  23.367 ms  23.332 ms
12  cr-berlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.186)  32.357 ms  32.307 ms  32.566 ms
13  ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.20.2)  32.651 ms  32.470 ms  32.409 ms
14  194.94.12.101 (194.94.12.101)  32.459 ms  32.684 ms  32.613 ms
15  141.20.16.14 (141.20.16.14)  32.916 ms  32.795 ms  32.753 ms
16  teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13)  33.162 ms *  33.107 ms

and everything is fine, whereas from home:

/usr/sbin/traceroute www.educat.hu-berlin.de
traceroute to teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.123.254 (192.168.123.254)  2.037 ms  1.122 ms  1.059 ms
 2  217.215.26.1 (217.215.26.1)  27.768 ms  14.439 ms  14.230 ms
 3  ar1sbk1-geth0-0-0.fre.skanova.net (195.67.220.77)  14.480 ms  14.189 ms  14.269 ms
 4  fre-d1-geth7-1.se.telia.net (195.67.220.73)  14.417 ms  14.667 ms  14.258 ms 5  
hy-b1-pos11-0.se.telia.net (195.67.220.157)  16.533 ms  14.509 ms  14.939 ms
 6  s-b4-pos13-0.telia.net (213.248.66.17)  14.434 ms  14.448 ms  14.773 ms
 7  s-bb1-pos5-0-0.telia.net (213.248.66.5)  14.451 ms  14.490 ms  14.451 ms
 8  hbg-bb1-pos0-2-0.telia.net (213.248.64.78)  35.117 ms  35.026 ms  34.844 ms
 9  213.248.65.46 (213.248.65.46)  30.878 ms  30.810 ms  30.765 ms
10  dante-01616-hbg-b1.c.telia.net (213.248.103.98)  33.769 ms  30.976 ms  31.029 ms
11  cr-berlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.197)  40.184 ms  39.357 ms  40.265 ms
12  ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.20.2)  39.663 ms  39.678 ms  39.612 ms
13  * * *
and then nothing.


Can this be because of something in my computer, or is it related to my ISP?
I.e., is there any point in me trying to check my firewall etc.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 Hi
 
 I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
 why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
 work, but not from home?

My ISP actually answered when I called, but without a result... they 
advised me to call Germany!!!

/C
-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:58:37PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
   I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
   why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
   work, but not from home?
  
  My ISP actually answered when I called, but without a result... they 
  advised me to call Germany!!!
 
 Is calling Germany!!! exceptionally difficult in Sweden?   ;-)
 
Oh, not at all!
And it's so easy to get hold of systems administrators in 
general, right ;-)  I mean, they're not busy anyway...

Of course, if I use the phone I also get to practice my German as well. 
But wait, how do I find the phone number to... let me see:

 ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de 

oh, I know... just look it up in the yellow pages...

Instead it seems easier (and more fun) to try and install some 
kind of tunneling software at work and go through that...
(I can use that for other stuff as well... like MATLAB license servers)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se




Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread robin
Christian Ridderström wrote:

Hi

I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
work, but not from home?

Does your ISP employ censorware?  It's amazing the kind of stuff these 
programs filter out (e.g. some people can't get at my philosophy and 
linguistics site, and one of my students couldn't download Rousseau's 
Discourse on Inequality from home).  Maybe all those references to latex 
trigger some anti-fetish subroutine ;-)

Robin

--
 Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and 
picke quarrells.
- G. Pettie

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin




Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, robin wrote:

 Christian Ridderström wrote:
  Hi
  
  I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
  why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
  work, but not from home?
 
 Does your ISP employ censorware?  It's amazing the kind of stuff these 
 programs filter out (e.g. some people can't get at my philosophy and 
 linguistics site, and one of my students couldn't download Rousseau's 
 Discourse on Inequality from home).  Maybe all those references to latex 
 trigger some anti-fetish subroutine ;-)

No, he actually said they don't have any filters at all... but I like your 
latex-theory :-)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
Hi

I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
work, but not from home?

Traceroute from work gives:
/usr/sbin/traceroute www.educat.hu-berlin.de
traceroute to teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  bulten.damek.kth.se (130.237.57.2)  0.720 ms  0.654 ms  0.601 ms
 2  kth1-cn4-b.gw.kth.se (130.237.211.233)  0.495 ms  0.454 ms  0.576 ms
 3  stockholm3-SRP2.sunet.se (130.242.85.65)  0.814 ms  0.911 ms  0.743 ms
 4  stockholm1-POS6.sunet.se (130.242.82.25)  1.195 ms  1.023 ms  1.280 ms
 5  s-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.181)  1.069 ms  0.814 ms  1.053 ms
 6  sw-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.129)  0.973 ms  0.859 ms  0.888 ms
 7  nordunet.se1.se.geant.net (62.40.103.117)  1.019 ms  1.158 ms  1.165 ms
 8  se.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.96.65)  22.891 ms  22.879 ms  22.930 ms
 9  de2-1.de1.de.geant.net (62.40.96.129)  23.690 ms  22.986 ms  22.921 ms
10  ir-frankfurt2.g-win.dfn.de (62.40.103.34)  23.180 ms  23.237 ms 23.213 ms
11  cr-frankfurt1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.80.37)  23.433 ms  23.367 ms  23.332 ms
12  cr-berlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.186)  32.357 ms  32.307 ms  32.566 ms
13  ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.20.2)  32.651 ms  32.470 ms  32.409 ms
14  194.94.12.101 (194.94.12.101)  32.459 ms  32.684 ms  32.613 ms
15  141.20.16.14 (141.20.16.14)  32.916 ms  32.795 ms  32.753 ms
16  teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13)  33.162 ms *  33.107 ms

and everything is fine, whereas from home:

>/usr/sbin/traceroute www.educat.hu-berlin.de
traceroute to teak.educat.hu-berlin.de (141.20.130.13), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.123.254 (192.168.123.254)  2.037 ms  1.122 ms  1.059 ms
 2  217.215.26.1 (217.215.26.1)  27.768 ms  14.439 ms  14.230 ms
 3  ar1sbk1-geth0-0-0.fre.skanova.net (195.67.220.77)  14.480 ms  14.189 ms  14.269 ms
 4  fre-d1-geth7-1.se.telia.net (195.67.220.73)  14.417 ms  14.667 ms  14.258 ms 5  
hy-b1-pos11-0.se.telia.net (195.67.220.157)  16.533 ms  14.509 ms  14.939 ms
 6  s-b4-pos13-0.telia.net (213.248.66.17)  14.434 ms  14.448 ms  14.773 ms
 7  s-bb1-pos5-0-0.telia.net (213.248.66.5)  14.451 ms  14.490 ms  14.451 ms
 8  hbg-bb1-pos0-2-0.telia.net (213.248.64.78)  35.117 ms  35.026 ms  34.844 ms
 9  213.248.65.46 (213.248.65.46)  30.878 ms  30.810 ms  30.765 ms
10  dante-01616-hbg-b1.c.telia.net (213.248.103.98)  33.769 ms  30.976 ms  31.029 ms
11  cr-berlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.197)  40.184 ms  39.357 ms  40.265 ms
12  ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.20.2)  39.663 ms  39.678 ms  39.612 ms
13  * * *
and then nothing.


Can this be because of something in my computer, or is it related to my ISP?
I.e., is there any point in me trying to check my firewall etc.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
> why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
> work, but not from home?

My ISP actually answered when I called, but without a result... they 
advised me to call Germany!!!

/C
-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:58:37PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > > I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
> > > why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
> > > work, but not from home?
> > 
> > My ISP actually answered when I called, but without a result... they 
> > advised me to call Germany!!!
> 
> Is calling "Germany!!!" exceptionally difficult in Sweden?   ;-)
> 
Oh, not at all!
And it's so easy to get hold of systems administrators in 
general, right ;-)  I mean, they're not busy anyway...

Of course, if I use the phone I also get to practice my German as well. 
But wait, how do I find the phone number to... let me see:

 ar-huberlin1.g-win.dfn.de 

oh, I know... just look it up in the yellow pages...

Instead it seems easier (and more fun) to try and install some 
kind of tunneling software at work and go through that...
(I can use that for other stuff as well... like MATLAB license servers)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se




Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread robin
Christian Ridderström wrote:

Hi

I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
work, but not from home?

Does your ISP employ censorware?  It's amazing the kind of stuff these 
programs filter out (e.g. some people can't get at my philosophy and 
linguistics site, and one of my students couldn't download Rousseau's 
Discourse on Inequality from home).  Maybe all those references to latex 
trigger some anti-fetish subroutine ;-)

Robin

--
" Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and 
picke quarrells."
- G. Pettie

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin




Re: off-topic: can't access Herbert's pages from home

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, robin wrote:

> Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I'm sorry for being totally off topic here, but does anybody have an idea 
> > why I can access Herbert's pages (http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de) from 
> > work, but not from home?
> 
> Does your ISP employ censorware?  It's amazing the kind of stuff these 
> programs filter out (e.g. some people can't get at my philosophy and 
> linguistics site, and one of my students couldn't download Rousseau's 
> Discourse on Inequality from home).  Maybe all those references to latex 
> trigger some anti-fetish subroutine ;-)

No, he actually said they don't have any filters at all... but I like your 
latex-theory :-)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr