Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Christopher == Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christopher Thanks for the heads up on the menus being Christopher configurable--probably an obvious thing that I have never Christopher had the occasion to need, and therefore to know about. Christopher But I perhaps should have omitted that, since it seems to Christopher have drawn attention from the real point of the Christopher suggestion, which was the additional menu to pop up in Christopher the application window. You mean contextual menus, I guess (usually bound to right mouse button). There has been some talks about them, but nothing has really been done yet. JMarc
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Christopher == Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christopher Thanks for the heads up on the menus being Christopher configurable--probably an obvious thing that I have never Christopher had the occasion to need, and therefore to know about. Christopher But I perhaps should have omitted that, since it seems to Christopher have drawn attention from the real point of the Christopher suggestion, which was the additional menu to pop up in Christopher the application window. You mean contextual menus, I guess (usually bound to right mouse button). There has been some talks about them, but nothing has really been done yet. JMarc
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
> "Christopher" == Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christopher> Thanks for the heads up on the menus being Christopher> configurable--probably an obvious thing that I have never Christopher> had the occasion to need, and therefore to know about. Christopher> But I perhaps should have omitted that, since it seems to Christopher> have drawn attention from the real point of the Christopher> suggestion, which was the additional menu to pop up in Christopher> the application window. You mean contextual menus, I guess (usually bound to right mouse button). There has been some talks about them, but nothing has really been done yet. JMarc
OT: Troll (Was: Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.)
On sobota 28 duben 2001 1:19 Christopher Jones wrote: Sorry, it's long -- ESR tends to be talkative. Is that what a troll is! I always wondered what people were talking about when they complained about them. Not exactly -- the binding definition is not from me, but from the most respectfull source, which is the Jargon File (v. 4.2.3, 11/23/2000, to be find on http://www.tuxedo.org/), of course: # roll v.,n. # 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a # posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or # flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling # for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a # style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely # spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post # that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves # look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly # conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact # a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to # be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. An individual who chronically # trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames # or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in # email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a # discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have # no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they # simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they # are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, # and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on # the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare # kook. 3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job # for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring # that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it # involves lurking in dark cavelike corners. # Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a # narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized # by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly # controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter. # The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that # readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For # example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed # the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings. Sorry, for long off-topic message, but hopefully, it will make you happy on the weekend (or in the bleak Monday morning). Matej Cepl
OT: Troll (Was: Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.)
On sobota 28 duben 2001 1:19 Christopher Jones wrote: Sorry, it's long -- ESR tends to be talkative. Is that what a troll is! I always wondered what people were talking about when they complained about them. Not exactly -- the binding definition is not from me, but from the most respectfull source, which is the Jargon File (v. 4.2.3, 11/23/2000, to be find on http://www.tuxedo.org/), of course: # roll v.,n. # 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a # posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or # flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling # for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a # style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely # spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post # that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves # look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly # conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact # a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to # be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. An individual who chronically # trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames # or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in # email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a # discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have # no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they # simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they # are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, # and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on # the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare # kook. 3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job # for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring # that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it # involves lurking in dark cavelike corners. # Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a # narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized # by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly # controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter. # The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that # readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For # example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed # the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings. Sorry, for long off-topic message, but hopefully, it will make you happy on the weekend (or in the bleak Monday morning). Matej Cepl
OT: Troll (Was: Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.)
On sobota 28 duben 2001 1:19 Christopher Jones wrote: Sorry, it's long -- ESR tends to be talkative. > Is that what a troll is! I always wondered what people were > talking about when they complained about them. Not exactly -- the binding definition is not from me, but from the most respectfull source, which is the Jargon File (v. 4.2.3, 11/23/2000, to be find on http://www.tuxedo.org/), of course: # roll v.,n. # 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a # posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or # flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling # for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a # style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely # spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post # that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves # look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly # conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact # a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to # be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. An individual who chronically # trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames # or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in # email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a # discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have # no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they # simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they # are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, # and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on # the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare # kook. 3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job # for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring # that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it # involves lurking in dark cavelike corners. # Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a # narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized # by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly # controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter. # The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that # readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For # example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed # the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings. Sorry, for long off-topic message, but hopefully, it will make you happy on the weekend (or in the bleak Monday morning). Matej Cepl
thoughts on the LyX gui.
Since there has been some discussion of incorporation of Python into LyX, let me say that I think this is something like what I wanted when I posted that strange request some time ago (I don't remember how I put it: I think I talked about having the ability to integrate other applications' guis into the LyX gui). Since that last post, I realized that what I wanted was plugins. For intance, since then I've thought of writing little dialogues to control frequently used packages, which have lots of little options I might want to change from time to time. A prime example is jurabib, which has too many options for me to remember them. I just plain slows me down to have to pull up the documentation and sort through all the little options to find the one's I need. So I guess this is in one sense a 'second' to the discussion of Python, along with a reminder of and clarification of my original post. In addition, I have a few other thoughts to offer. I don't know how customizable menus are in LyX-- I haven't had the time to look into the docs. However, I think it would be quite a nice feature to have one of those little menus to pop up with a click in the application window. That is one thing I -do- like about the behemoth WYSIWYG applications, which I otherwise despise. This menu should be *fully* customizable (as should everything in LyX) And with that, may I add my voice to that of others who, over the years, have made known their appreciation for all the hard work and thought that has gone into making LyX the fabulous application it is.
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | -do- like about the behemoth WYSIWYG applications, which I otherwise despise. | This menu should be *fully* customizable (as should everything in | LyX) But they are! (and the toolbar) But we have no gui to control it, only text files. -- Lgb
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
On ptek 27 duben 2001 10:56 Christopher Johns wrote: And with that, may I add my voice to that of others who, over the years, have made known their appreciation for all the hard work and thought that has gone into making LyX the fabulous application it is. Yes, that is the thing, which I forgot to emphasize: I really like LyX, and I did not intented by any means to say, that I would prefer that _other_ program which has the support for scripts. I do not want, by any means, be one of those trolls, who quarell on support lists, that the program has not all the bells and whistles of the proprietary competitor. Just some thoughts were going around. :-) Matej
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Is that what a troll is! I always wondered what people were talking about when they complained about them. Thanks for the heads up on the menus being configurable--probably an obvious thing that I have never had the occasion to need, and therefore to know about. But I perhaps should have omitted that, since it seems to have drawn attention from the real point of the suggestion, which was the additional menu to pop up in the application window. Yes, that is the thing, which I forgot to emphasize: I really like LyX, and I did not intented by any means to say, that I would prefer that _other_ program which has the support for scripts. I do not want, by any means, be one of those trolls, who quarell on support lists, that the program has not all the bells and whistles of the proprietary competitor. Just some thoughts were going around. :-) Matej
thoughts on the LyX gui.
Since there has been some discussion of incorporation of Python into LyX, let me say that I think this is something like what I wanted when I posted that strange request some time ago (I don't remember how I put it: I think I talked about having the ability to integrate other applications' guis into the LyX gui). Since that last post, I realized that what I wanted was plugins. For intance, since then I've thought of writing little dialogues to control frequently used packages, which have lots of little options I might want to change from time to time. A prime example is jurabib, which has too many options for me to remember them. I just plain slows me down to have to pull up the documentation and sort through all the little options to find the one's I need. So I guess this is in one sense a 'second' to the discussion of Python, along with a reminder of and clarification of my original post. In addition, I have a few other thoughts to offer. I don't know how customizable menus are in LyX-- I haven't had the time to look into the docs. However, I think it would be quite a nice feature to have one of those little menus to pop up with a click in the application window. That is one thing I -do- like about the behemoth WYSIWYG applications, which I otherwise despise. This menu should be *fully* customizable (as should everything in LyX) And with that, may I add my voice to that of others who, over the years, have made known their appreciation for all the hard work and thought that has gone into making LyX the fabulous application it is.
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | -do- like about the behemoth WYSIWYG applications, which I otherwise despise. | This menu should be *fully* customizable (as should everything in | LyX) But they are! (and the toolbar) But we have no gui to control it, only text files. -- Lgb
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
On ptek 27 duben 2001 10:56 Christopher Johns wrote: And with that, may I add my voice to that of others who, over the years, have made known their appreciation for all the hard work and thought that has gone into making LyX the fabulous application it is. Yes, that is the thing, which I forgot to emphasize: I really like LyX, and I did not intented by any means to say, that I would prefer that _other_ program which has the support for scripts. I do not want, by any means, be one of those trolls, who quarell on support lists, that the program has not all the bells and whistles of the proprietary competitor. Just some thoughts were going around. :-) Matej
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Is that what a troll is! I always wondered what people were talking about when they complained about them. Thanks for the heads up on the menus being configurable--probably an obvious thing that I have never had the occasion to need, and therefore to know about. But I perhaps should have omitted that, since it seems to have drawn attention from the real point of the suggestion, which was the additional menu to pop up in the application window. Yes, that is the thing, which I forgot to emphasize: I really like LyX, and I did not intented by any means to say, that I would prefer that _other_ program which has the support for scripts. I do not want, by any means, be one of those trolls, who quarell on support lists, that the program has not all the bells and whistles of the proprietary competitor. Just some thoughts were going around. :-) Matej
thoughts on the LyX gui.
Since there has been some discussion of incorporation of Python into LyX, let me say that I think this is something like what I wanted when I posted that strange request some time ago (I don't remember how I put it: I think I talked about having the ability to integrate other applications' guis into the LyX gui). Since that last post, I realized that what I wanted was "plugins". For intance, since then I've thought of writing little dialogues to control frequently used packages, which have lots of little options I might want to change from time to time. A prime example is jurabib, which has too many options for me to remember them. I just plain slows me down to have to pull up the documentation and sort through all the little options to find the one's I need. So I guess this is in one sense a 'second' to the discussion of Python, along with a reminder of and clarification of my original post. In addition, I have a few other thoughts to offer. I don't know how customizable menus are in LyX-- I haven't had the time to look into the docs. However, I think it would be quite a nice feature to have one of those little menus to pop up with a click in the application window. That is one thing I -do- like about the behemoth WYSIWYG applications, which I otherwise despise. This menu should be *fully* customizable (as should everything in LyX) And with that, may I add my voice to that of others who, over the years, have made known their appreciation for all the hard work and thought that has gone into making LyX the fabulous application it is.
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | -do- like about the behemoth WYSIWYG applications, which I otherwise despise. | This menu should be *fully* customizable (as should everything in | LyX) But they are! (and the toolbar) But we have no gui to control it, only text files. -- Lgb
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
On pátek 27 duben 2001 10:56 Christopher Johns wrote: > And with that, may I add my voice to that of others who, over > the years, have made known their appreciation for all the hard > work and thought that has gone into making LyX the fabulous > application it is. Yes, that is the thing, which I forgot to emphasize: I really like LyX, and I did not intented by any means to say, that I would prefer that _other_ program which has the support for scripts. I do not want, by any means, be one of those trolls, who quarell on support lists, that the program has not all the bells and whistles of the proprietary competitor. Just some thoughts were going around. :-) Matej
Re: thoughts on the LyX gui.
Is that what a troll is! I always wondered what people were talking about when they complained about them. Thanks for the heads up on the menus being configurable--probably an obvious thing that I have never had the occasion to need, and therefore to know about. But I perhaps should have omitted that, since it seems to have drawn attention from the real point of the suggestion, which was the additional menu to pop up in the application window. > Yes, that is the thing, which I forgot to emphasize: I really > like LyX, and I did not intented by any means to say, that I > would prefer that _other_ program which has the support for > scripts. I do not want, by any means, be one of those trolls, > who quarell on support lists, that the program has not all the > bells and whistles of the proprietary competitor. Just some > thoughts were going around. :-) > > Matej
