Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Kimmo Koli

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Areas I would particularly like comments about are the following:
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.
My colleague just finished a thesis with 260 pages in a single
LyX-document. My thesis at 217 pages now but I'm using include-files now.
 
 Section 1.4 - Looking for machines/OS's known to run LyX. I use RedHat
   Linux 6.0 and Sun Solaris 2.6. I know there are a ton of others,
   including OS/2 and Windows - what are they and what special things
   (if any) do they need?
Solaris 2.7 and HP-UX compilied without any problems. Of cource you need
to specify xforms- and xpm-librarypaths for the configure skript.

In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform installation so that
Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the platform independent files. However,
reconfigure is now working only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not
platform independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we haven't tried
newer versions.

Best regards,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   Kimmo Koli Helsinki University of Technology 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Electronic Circuit Design Laboratory
   http://www.ecdl.hut.fi/~kimmo  P.O.Box 3000
   Tel:  +358 9 451 2273  FIN-02015 HUT
   Fax:  +358 9 451 2269  Finland 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=





Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Martin Vermeer

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

My lecture notes "Gravity field of the Earth" are 133 pages (Book class)
with 27 figures. In (poor) Finnish. No problem for either LyX nor LaTeX,
but a bit slow on a 486 at 33 MHz.

Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.

[...]
 
 Mike
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone +358 9 295 55 215   Fax +358 9 295 55 200
Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
:wq



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Ronald Florence

Martin Vermeer writes:

  Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
  Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
  most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
  count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.
  
I've completed an 836 page novel in LyX.  There are 30 included
chapters.  It is still with my agent, so not yet in the category of
`largest published single effort using LyX.'  But I have a 400+ page
novel coming out in September that was done with LyX.

-- 

Ronald Florence http://members.home.net/18james




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Martin Vermeer wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [...]
 
  Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
- you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

chaos and fractals, bookstyle
362 pages with 207 images, 27 tables and a lot of math stuff.

printing one page, e.g. 182, takes about 20 minutes with winword8.0
in fact of the complicated formating process and 4 minutes with lyx! 

anyway, for one page and ???page only lyx!


Herbert :-)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/voss



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Martin Vermeer wrote:
|  
|  On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  
|  [...]
|  
|   Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
| - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
| Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.
| 
| chaos and fractals, bookstyle
| 362 pages with 207 images, 27 tables and a lot of math stuff.
| 
| printing one page, e.g. 182, takes about 20 minutes with winword8.0
| in fact of the complicated formating process and 4 minutes with lyx! 

I'd really like to see ISBN numbers for published books/papers etc. 

Would be nice to have in the FAQ and on the WWW site.

Lgb



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Ronald Florence

Lars Gullik Bjønnes writes:

  No, use the copyright symbol directly or write it out - "Copyright",
  the strange thingie paranthesis-C-paranthesis have noe meaning
  legally. (it just looks kindo similar to the copyright symbol).
  
Actually, under the Bern Convention, which governs copyright in the
US, most of Western Europe, and Latin America, any statement that
indicates `ownership' of the work is equally valid.  Using the word
copyright of the © symbol are traditional, and may be more readily
recognized as symbols of ownership by a reader, but they have no legal
significance.

-- 

Ronald Florence http://members.home.net/18james




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Jean-Marc" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oops! I sent the message by mistake. I have more complaints...

Jean-Marc * 6.5: what's wrong with "math-insert root" (M-m r)?

* 8.1: explicitely point to the Tutorial as minimum reading.

* 9.4: why don't you want to use the nice math-text-mode feature that
you just described to enter units? 

* 9.4: you could maybe use directly © for copyright. If you think this
will be bad for our non-western countries readers, use (C).

That's all for now.

JMarc



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Kimmo" == Kimmo Koli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kimmo In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform
Kimmo installation so that Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the
Kimmo platform independent files. However, reconfigure is now working
Kimmo only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not platform
Kimmo independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
Kimmo absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we
Kimmo haven't tried newer versions.

Could you elaborate?

JMarc



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Yann MORERE

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have just placed "Version 0.3.0pre0.build000, Alpha" of the LyX FAQ into
 the lyxdoc CVS module. It's not "finished" by any stretch, but I wanted
 people to have a chance to see it and offer comments before it gets too
 much bigger.
 
 The format is loosely based on the Linux FAQ. I did have a look at version
 0.2.2 of the LyX FAQ, but it actually isn't very relevant anymore (good
 news, not bad!). It is a simple LyX document; hopefully it won't be too
 hard to export it as a decent looking HTML file. Also, I didn't write this
 with too straight a face (see 9.4 Disclaimer and Copyright for an example,
 amongst many). If this tone doesn't sit well with you, let me know and I'll
 tame it down a bit.
 
 Areas I would particularly like comments about are the following:
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
 - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
 Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

i wrote a ~300 pages document... the latex FAQ en french from the Text
version from
fr.comp.text.tex (you can have it on my homepage )

without problems, and with a heavy latex preamble (several included
packages)
 
 Section 1.4 - Looking for machines/OS's known to run LyX. I use RedHat
 Linux 6.0 and Sun Solaris 2.6. I know there are a ton of others,
 including OS/2 and Windows - what are they and what special things
 (if any) do they need?

I compiled and ran LyX 1.1.4 on a Sparc IPX sun station with RH 6.0 and
on an
Alpha ev6 under OSF1 flore V4.0 1091 alpha

 
Ian

-- 
"Y faut liiirrreee, Arlequin, Champion de l'amou" Dany Boon
 ---
(Yann MORERE mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] )
(Doctorant Automatique   http://www.multimania.com/ymorere/ )



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Kimmo Koli

On 7 Apr 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

  "Kimmo" == Kimmo Koli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Kimmo In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform
 Kimmo installation so that Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the
 Kimmo platform independent files. However, reconfigure is now working
 Kimmo only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not platform
 Kimmo independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
 Kimmo absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we
 Kimmo haven't tried newer versions.
 
 Could you elaborate?
The Reconfigure in the Options-menu reruns the configure-script if I
understand corrently. And this script seems to need the LaTeX binary path
defined inside the script. So the start of the script is:
---
#! /bin/sh
# This script is a hand-made configure script. It contains a lot of
# code stolen from GNU autoconf. I removed all the code that was not
# useful for configuring a LyX installation.

PATH=/prog/teTeX/bin/hppa1.1-hpux10:$PATH
export PATH
---

The default shell for user is tcsh and because we have "too
many" applications in our system, we don't place all applications in the
shell default search path but use a separate command to set the correct
paths and enviroment variables only when required. So before starting LyX
we issue a command "use lyx" which sets LyX and LaTeX paths. 

So although the paths are correctly set for LyX somehow the
configure-script seem to get the plain path. Of cource we could add some
architecture sensing into the script but as LyX gets updated quite often
we would want to keep the amount of manually edited files to a minimum.

Best regards,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   Kimmo Koli Helsinki University of Technology 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Electronic Circuit Design Laboratory
   http://www.ecdl.hut.fi/~kimmo  P.O.Box 3000
   Tel:  +358 9 451 2273  FIN-02015 HUT
   Fax:  +358 9 451 2269  Finland 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos

On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
 * 5: explain what the LaTeX preamble is. Note maybe that ERT and
   preamble work for SGML too (am I right wrt the preamble?).

  Both (ert and preamble) work with linuxdoc and docbook!

-- 
José



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Kimmo Koli

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Areas I would particularly like comments about are the following:
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.
My colleague just finished a thesis with 260 pages in a single
LyX-document. My thesis at 217 pages now but I'm using include-files now.
 
 Section 1.4 - Looking for machines/OS's known to run LyX. I use RedHat
   Linux 6.0 and Sun Solaris 2.6. I know there are a ton of others,
   including OS/2 and Windows - what are they and what special things
   (if any) do they need?
Solaris 2.7 and HP-UX compilied without any problems. Of cource you need
to specify xforms- and xpm-librarypaths for the configure skript.

In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform installation so that
Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the platform independent files. However,
reconfigure is now working only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not
platform independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we haven't tried
newer versions.

Best regards,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   Kimmo Koli Helsinki University of Technology 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Electronic Circuit Design Laboratory
   http://www.ecdl.hut.fi/~kimmo  P.O.Box 3000
   Tel:  +358 9 451 2273  FIN-02015 HUT
   Fax:  +358 9 451 2269  Finland 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=





Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Martin Vermeer

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

My lecture notes "Gravity field of the Earth" are 133 pages (Book class)
with 27 figures. In (poor) Finnish. No problem for either LyX nor LaTeX,
but a bit slow on a 486 at 33 MHz.

Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.

[...]
 
 Mike
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone +358 9 295 55 215   Fax +358 9 295 55 200
Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
:wq



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Ronald Florence

Martin Vermeer writes:

  Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
  Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
  most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
  count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.
  
I've completed an 836 page novel in LyX.  There are 30 included
chapters.  It is still with my agent, so not yet in the category of
`largest published single effort using LyX.'  But I have a 400+ page
novel coming out in September that was done with LyX.

-- 

Ronald Florence http://members.home.net/18james




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Martin Vermeer wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [...]
 
  Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
- you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

chaos and fractals, bookstyle
362 pages with 207 images, 27 tables and a lot of math stuff.

printing one page, e.g. 182, takes about 20 minutes with winword8.0
in fact of the complicated formating process and 4 minutes with lyx! 

anyway, for one page and ???page only lyx!


Herbert :-)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/voss



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Martin Vermeer wrote:
|  
|  On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  
|  [...]
|  
|   Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
| - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
| Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.
| 
| chaos and fractals, bookstyle
| 362 pages with 207 images, 27 tables and a lot of math stuff.
| 
| printing one page, e.g. 182, takes about 20 minutes with winword8.0
| in fact of the complicated formating process and 4 minutes with lyx! 

I'd really like to see ISBN numbers for published books/papers etc. 

Would be nice to have in the FAQ and on the WWW site.

Lgb



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Ronald Florence

Lars Gullik Bjønnes writes:

  No, use the copyright symbol directly or write it out - "Copyright",
  the strange thingie paranthesis-C-paranthesis have noe meaning
  legally. (it just looks kindo similar to the copyright symbol).
  
Actually, under the Bern Convention, which governs copyright in the
US, most of Western Europe, and Latin America, any statement that
indicates `ownership' of the work is equally valid.  Using the word
copyright of the © symbol are traditional, and may be more readily
recognized as symbols of ownership by a reader, but they have no legal
significance.

-- 

Ronald Florence http://members.home.net/18james




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Jean-Marc" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oops! I sent the message by mistake. I have more complaints...

Jean-Marc * 6.5: what's wrong with "math-insert root" (M-m r)?

* 8.1: explicitely point to the Tutorial as minimum reading.

* 9.4: why don't you want to use the nice math-text-mode feature that
you just described to enter units? 

* 9.4: you could maybe use directly © for copyright. If you think this
will be bad for our non-western countries readers, use (C).

That's all for now.

JMarc



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Kimmo" == Kimmo Koli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kimmo In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform
Kimmo installation so that Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the
Kimmo platform independent files. However, reconfigure is now working
Kimmo only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not platform
Kimmo independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
Kimmo absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we
Kimmo haven't tried newer versions.

Could you elaborate?

JMarc



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Yann MORERE

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have just placed "Version 0.3.0pre0.build000, Alpha" of the LyX FAQ into
 the lyxdoc CVS module. It's not "finished" by any stretch, but I wanted
 people to have a chance to see it and offer comments before it gets too
 much bigger.
 
 The format is loosely based on the Linux FAQ. I did have a look at version
 0.2.2 of the LyX FAQ, but it actually isn't very relevant anymore (good
 news, not bad!). It is a simple LyX document; hopefully it won't be too
 hard to export it as a decent looking HTML file. Also, I didn't write this
 with too straight a face (see 9.4 Disclaimer and Copyright for an example,
 amongst many). If this tone doesn't sit well with you, let me know and I'll
 tame it down a bit.
 
 Areas I would particularly like comments about are the following:
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
 - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
 Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

i wrote a ~300 pages document... the latex FAQ en french from the Text
version from
fr.comp.text.tex (you can have it on my homepage )

without problems, and with a heavy latex preamble (several included
packages)
 
 Section 1.4 - Looking for machines/OS's known to run LyX. I use RedHat
 Linux 6.0 and Sun Solaris 2.6. I know there are a ton of others,
 including OS/2 and Windows - what are they and what special things
 (if any) do they need?

I compiled and ran LyX 1.1.4 on a Sparc IPX sun station with RH 6.0 and
on an
Alpha ev6 under OSF1 flore V4.0 1091 alpha

 
Ian

-- 
"Y faut liiirrreee, Arlequin, Champion de l'amou" Dany Boon
 ---
(Yann MORERE mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] )
(Doctorant Automatique   http://www.multimania.com/ymorere/ )



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Kimmo Koli

On 7 Apr 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

  "Kimmo" == Kimmo Koli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Kimmo In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform
 Kimmo installation so that Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the
 Kimmo platform independent files. However, reconfigure is now working
 Kimmo only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not platform
 Kimmo independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
 Kimmo absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we
 Kimmo haven't tried newer versions.
 
 Could you elaborate?
The Reconfigure in the Options-menu reruns the configure-script if I
understand corrently. And this script seems to need the LaTeX binary path
defined inside the script. So the start of the script is:
---
#! /bin/sh
# This script is a hand-made configure script. It contains a lot of
# code stolen from GNU autoconf. I removed all the code that was not
# useful for configuring a LyX installation.

PATH=/prog/teTeX/bin/hppa1.1-hpux10:$PATH
export PATH
---

The default shell for user is tcsh and because we have "too
many" applications in our system, we don't place all applications in the
shell default search path but use a separate command to set the correct
paths and enviroment variables only when required. So before starting LyX
we issue a command "use lyx" which sets LyX and LaTeX paths. 

So although the paths are correctly set for LyX somehow the
configure-script seem to get the plain path. Of cource we could add some
architecture sensing into the script but as LyX gets updated quite often
we would want to keep the amount of manually edited files to a minimum.

Best regards,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   Kimmo Koli Helsinki University of Technology 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Electronic Circuit Design Laboratory
   http://www.ecdl.hut.fi/~kimmo  P.O.Box 3000
   Tel:  +358 9 451 2273  FIN-02015 HUT
   Fax:  +358 9 451 2269  Finland 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos

On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
 * 5: explain what the LaTeX preamble is. Note maybe that ERT and
   preamble work for SGML too (am I right wrt the preamble?).

  Both (ert and preamble) work with linuxdoc and docbook!

-- 
José



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Kimmo Koli

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Areas I would particularly like comments about are the following:
> 
> Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
>   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
>   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.
My colleague just finished a thesis with 260 pages in a single
LyX-document. My thesis at 217 pages now but I'm using include-files now.
> 
> Section 1.4 - Looking for machines/OS's known to run LyX. I use RedHat
>   Linux 6.0 and Sun Solaris 2.6. I know there are a ton of others,
>   including OS/2 and Windows - what are they and what special things
>   (if any) do they need?
Solaris 2.7 and HP-UX compilied without any problems. Of cource you need
to specify xforms- and xpm-librarypaths for the configure skript.

In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform installation so that
Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the platform independent files. However,
reconfigure is now working only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not
platform independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we haven't tried
newer versions.

Best regards,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   Kimmo Koli Helsinki University of Technology 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Electronic Circuit Design Laboratory
   http://www.ecdl.hut.fi/~kimmo  P.O.Box 3000
   Tel:  +358 9 451 2273  FIN-02015 HUT
   Fax:  +358 9 451 2269  Finland 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=





Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Martin Vermeer

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
> Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
>   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
>   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

My lecture notes "Gravity field of the Earth" are 133 pages (Book class)
with 27 figures. In (poor) Finnish. No problem for either LyX nor LaTeX,
but a bit slow on a 486 at 33 MHz.

Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.

[...]
 
> Mike
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone +358 9 295 55 215   Fax +358 9 295 55 200
Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
:wq



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Ronald Florence

Martin Vermeer writes:

  Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
  Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
  most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
  count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.
  
I've completed an 836 page novel in LyX.  There are 30 included
chapters.  It is still with my agent, so not yet in the category of
`largest published single effort using LyX.'  But I have a 400+ page
novel coming out in September that was done with LyX.

-- 

Ronald Florence http://members.home.net/18james




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Martin Vermeer wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
> >   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
> >   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

chaos and fractals, bookstyle
362 pages with 207 images, 27 tables and a lot of math stuff.

printing one page, e.g. 182, takes about 20 minutes with winword8.0
in fact of the complicated formating process and 4 minutes with lyx! 

anyway, for one page and ???page only lyx!


Herbert :-)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/voss



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| Martin Vermeer wrote:
| > 
| > On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > 
| > [...]
| > 
| > > Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
| > >   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
| > >   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.
| 
| chaos and fractals, bookstyle
| 362 pages with 207 images, 27 tables and a lot of math stuff.
| 
| printing one page, e.g. 182, takes about 20 minutes with winword8.0
| in fact of the complicated formating process and 4 minutes with lyx! 

I'd really like to see ISBN numbers for published books/papers etc. 

Would be nice to have in the FAQ and on the WWW site.

Lgb



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Ronald Florence

Lars Gullik Bjønnes writes:

  No, use the copyright symbol directly or write it out -> "Copyright",
  the strange thingie paranthesis-C-paranthesis have noe meaning
  legally. (it just looks kindo similar to the copyright symbol).
  
Actually, under the Bern Convention, which governs copyright in the
US, most of Western Europe, and Latin America, any statement that
indicates `ownership' of the work is equally valid.  Using the word
copyright of the © symbol are traditional, and may be more readily
recognized as symbols of ownership by a reader, but they have no legal
significance.

-- 

Ronald Florence http://members.home.net/18james




Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Jean-Marc" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Oops! I sent the message by mistake. I have more complaints...

Jean-Marc> * 6.5: what's wrong with "math-insert root" (M-m r)?

* 8.1: explicitely point to the Tutorial as minimum reading.

* 9.4: why don't you want to use the nice math-text-mode feature that
you just described to enter units? 

* 9.4: you could maybe use directly © for copyright. If you think this
will be bad for our non-western countries readers, use (C).

That's all for now.

JMarc



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Kimmo" == Kimmo Koli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kimmo> In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform
Kimmo> installation so that Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the
Kimmo> platform independent files. However, reconfigure is now working
Kimmo> only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not platform
Kimmo> independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
Kimmo> absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we
Kimmo> haven't tried newer versions.

Could you elaborate?

JMarc



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Yann MORERE

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I have just placed "Version 0.3.0pre0.build000, Alpha" of the LyX FAQ into
> the lyxdoc CVS module. It's not "finished" by any stretch, but I wanted
> people to have a chance to see it and offer comments before it gets too
> much bigger.
> 
> The format is loosely based on the Linux FAQ. I did have a look at version
> 0.2.2 of the LyX FAQ, but it actually isn't very relevant anymore (good
> news, not bad!). It is a simple LyX document; hopefully it won't be too
> hard to export it as a decent looking HTML file. Also, I didn't write this
> with too straight a face (see 9.4 Disclaimer and Copyright for an example,
> amongst many). If this tone doesn't sit well with you, let me know and I'll
> tame it down a bit.
> 
> Areas I would particularly like comments about are the following:
> 
> Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
> - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
> Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

i wrote a ~300 pages document... the latex FAQ en french from the Text
version from
fr.comp.text.tex (you can have it on my homepage )

without problems, and with a heavy latex preamble (several included
packages)
 
> Section 1.4 - Looking for machines/OS's known to run LyX. I use RedHat
> Linux 6.0 and Sun Solaris 2.6. I know there are a ton of others,
> including OS/2 and Windows - what are they and what special things
> (if any) do they need?

I compiled and ran LyX 1.1.4 on a Sparc IPX sun station with RH 6.0 and
on an
Alpha ev6 under OSF1 flore V4.0 1091 alpha

 
Ian

-- 
"Y faut liiirrreee, Arlequin, Champion de l'amou" Dany Boon
 ---
(Yann MORERE mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] )
(Doctorant Automatique   http://www.multimania.com/ymorere/ )



Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Kimmo Koli

On 7 Apr 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> > "Kimmo" == Kimmo Koli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Kimmo> In our configuration we try to make a multi-platform
> Kimmo> installation so that Linux, Solaris and HP-UX share the
> Kimmo> platform independent files. However, reconfigure is now working
> Kimmo> only on HP-UX, as the configure-script is not platform
> Kimmo> independent enough in finding the LaTeX-distribution (ie. uses
> Kimmo> absolute paths). Well, this is true at least for 1.04, we
> Kimmo> haven't tried newer versions.
> 
> Could you elaborate?
The Reconfigure in the Options-menu reruns the configure-script if I
understand corrently. And this script seems to need the LaTeX binary path
defined inside the script. So the start of the script is:
---
#! /bin/sh
# This script is a hand-made configure script. It contains a lot of
# code stolen from GNU autoconf. I removed all the code that was not
# useful for configuring a LyX installation.

PATH=/prog/teTeX/bin/hppa1.1-hpux10:$PATH
export PATH
---

The default shell for user is tcsh and because we have "too
many" applications in our system, we don't place all applications in the
shell default search path but use a separate command to set the correct
paths and enviroment variables only when required. So before starting LyX
we issue a command "use lyx" which sets LyX and LaTeX paths. 

So although the paths are correctly set for LyX somehow the
configure-script seem to get the plain path. Of cource we could add some
architecture sensing into the script but as LyX gets updated quite often
we would want to keep the amount of manually edited files to a minimum.

Best regards,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   Kimmo Koli Helsinki University of Technology 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Electronic Circuit Design Laboratory
   http://www.ecdl.hut.fi/~kimmo  P.O.Box 3000
   Tel:  +358 9 451 2273  FIN-02015 HUT
   Fax:  +358 9 451 2269  Finland 
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Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-07 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos

On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> 
> * 5: explain what the LaTeX preamble is. Note maybe that ERT and
>   preamble work for SGML too (am I right wrt the preamble?).

  Both (ert and preamble) work with linuxdoc and docbook!

-- 
José



RE: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-06 Thread btanksley

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record 
documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 
   page thesis?
 Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

I'm within a hair's breadth of importing a 500 page book into LyX, right
after I get my Linux setup working again (computer upgrade destroyed it).
It's a different question whether I'll be staying with it -- I'll have to
see whether it works the way I need.

This is a notebook for a seminar; I need book-style binding (facing pages),
very wide inside margin (to accomodate user notes as well as my own margin
notes), margin notes which always appear on the inside margins, and
underlines to allow me to provide stuff for seminar attendees to fill in
("When about to ask a question, you should demand that students 
their hand").

So far I've yet to find any word processor which comes close; GeoWrite
(http://www.newdeal.com) comes the closest, but it only runs under DOS, and
doesn't support tables.  LyX is so cool in so many other ways I may wind up
using it for other purposes anyhow, but it would sure be cool if it could
handle all of these things as well.

Mike

-Billy



RE: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-06 Thread btanksley

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record 
documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 
   page thesis?
 Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

I'm within a hair's breadth of importing a 500 page book into LyX, right
after I get my Linux setup working again (computer upgrade destroyed it).
It's a different question whether I'll be staying with it -- I'll have to
see whether it works the way I need.

This is a notebook for a seminar; I need book-style binding (facing pages),
very wide inside margin (to accomodate user notes as well as my own margin
notes), margin notes which always appear on the inside margins, and
underlines to allow me to provide stuff for seminar attendees to fill in
("When about to ask a question, you should demand that students 
their hand").

So far I've yet to find any word processor which comes close; GeoWrite
(http://www.newdeal.com) comes the closest, but it only runs under DOS, and
doesn't support tables.  LyX is so cool in so many other ways I may wind up
using it for other purposes anyhow, but it would sure be cool if it could
handle all of these things as well.

Mike

-Billy



RE: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

2000-04-06 Thread btanksley

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

>Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record 
>documents" (read it
>   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 
>   page thesis?
> Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

I'm within a hair's breadth of importing a 500 page book into LyX, right
after I get my Linux setup working again (computer upgrade destroyed it).
It's a different question whether I'll be staying with it -- I'll have to
see whether it works the way I need.

This is a notebook for a seminar; I need book-style binding (facing pages),
very wide inside margin (to accomodate user notes as well as my own margin
notes), margin notes which always appear on the inside margins, and
underlines to allow me to provide stuff for seminar attendees to fill in
("When about to ask a question, you should demand that students 
their hand").

So far I've yet to find any word processor which comes close; GeoWrite
(http://www.newdeal.com) comes the closest, but it only runs under DOS, and
doesn't support tables.  LyX is so cool in so many other ways I may wind up
using it for other purposes anyhow, but it would sure be cool if it could
handle all of these things as well.

>Mike

-Billy