Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Paul Schwartz wrote:

In fact there is so many aside programs with LyX that I am always afraid 
to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have fully update 
(reinstalling everything).
But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to update 
them directly.

As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?



Yes, that is correct.  Once you have all the ancillary programs 
installed (although calling MikTeX ancillary is a bit of the tail 
wagging the dog), you need only upgrade LyX itself (using the more 
compact of the installers).  Similarly, ImageMagick, Ghostscript/GSView 
and MikTeX can be upgraded independently.  (I would be a bit hesitant to 
upgrade Aspell, as the connections from LyX to Aspell are hard-wired.) 
In point of fact, I don't know that I've ever upgraded ImageMagick, I 
upgrade Ghostscript at best sporadically, but I do try to keep MikTeX up 
to date, and that seems to work well for me.


/Paul



Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-23 Thread Paul Schwartz
Thanks Paul, you have been very patient with me; sorry for MikTeX, it was 
not really my feeling to call it an ancillary. I appreciate your tolerance 
for those beotians who are just using without knowing the details  ... and 
being quite happy with that.

Thanks again

Paul


Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message 
de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul Schwartz wrote:

 In fact there is so many aside programs with LyX that I am always 
 afraid to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have 
 fully update (reinstalling everything).
 But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
 say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
 ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to 
 update them directly.
 As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?


 Yes, that is correct.  Once you have all the ancillary programs installed 
 (although calling MikTeX ancillary is a bit of the tail wagging the 
 dog), you need only upgrade LyX itself (using the more compact of the 
 installers).  Similarly, ImageMagick, Ghostscript/GSView and MikTeX can be 
 upgraded independently.  (I would be a bit hesitant to upgrade Aspell, as 
 the connections from LyX to Aspell are hard-wired.) In point of fact, I 
 don't know that I've ever upgraded ImageMagick, I upgrade Ghostscript at 
 best sporadically, but I do try to keep MikTeX up to date, and that seems 
 to work well for me.

 /Paul

 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Paul Schwartz wrote:

In fact there is so many aside programs with LyX that I am always afraid 
to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have fully update 
(reinstalling everything).
But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to update 
them directly.

As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?



Yes, that is correct.  Once you have all the ancillary programs 
installed (although calling MikTeX ancillary is a bit of the tail 
wagging the dog), you need only upgrade LyX itself (using the more 
compact of the installers).  Similarly, ImageMagick, Ghostscript/GSView 
and MikTeX can be upgraded independently.  (I would be a bit hesitant to 
upgrade Aspell, as the connections from LyX to Aspell are hard-wired.) 
In point of fact, I don't know that I've ever upgraded ImageMagick, I 
upgrade Ghostscript at best sporadically, but I do try to keep MikTeX up 
to date, and that seems to work well for me.


/Paul



Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-23 Thread Paul Schwartz
Thanks Paul, you have been very patient with me; sorry for MikTeX, it was 
not really my feeling to call it an ancillary. I appreciate your tolerance 
for those beotians who are just using without knowing the details  ... and 
being quite happy with that.

Thanks again

Paul


Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message 
de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul Schwartz wrote:

 In fact there is so many aside programs with LyX that I am always 
 afraid to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have 
 fully update (reinstalling everything).
 But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
 say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
 ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to 
 update them directly.
 As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?


 Yes, that is correct.  Once you have all the ancillary programs installed 
 (although calling MikTeX ancillary is a bit of the tail wagging the 
 dog), you need only upgrade LyX itself (using the more compact of the 
 installers).  Similarly, ImageMagick, Ghostscript/GSView and MikTeX can be 
 upgraded independently.  (I would be a bit hesitant to upgrade Aspell, as 
 the connections from LyX to Aspell are hard-wired.) In point of fact, I 
 don't know that I've ever upgraded ImageMagick, I upgrade Ghostscript at 
 best sporadically, but I do try to keep MikTeX up to date, and that seems 
 to work well for me.

 /Paul

 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Paul Schwartz wrote:

In fact there is so many "aside" programs with LyX that I am always afraid 
to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have fully update 
(reinstalling everything).
But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to update 
them directly.

As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?



Yes, that is correct.  Once you have all the ancillary programs 
installed (although calling MikTeX "ancillary" is a bit of the tail 
wagging the dog), you need only upgrade LyX itself (using the more 
compact of the installers).  Similarly, ImageMagick, Ghostscript/GSView 
and MikTeX can be upgraded independently.  (I would be a bit hesitant to 
upgrade Aspell, as the connections from LyX to Aspell are hard-wired.) 
In point of fact, I don't know that I've ever upgraded ImageMagick, I 
upgrade Ghostscript at best sporadically, but I do try to keep MikTeX up 
to date, and that seems to work well for me.


/Paul



Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-23 Thread Paul Schwartz
Thanks Paul, you have been very patient with me; sorry for MikTeX, it was 
not really my feeling to call it an ancillary. I appreciate your tolerance 
for those beotians who are just using without knowing the details  ... and 
being quite happy with that.

Thanks again

Paul


"Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message 
de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Paul Schwartz wrote:
>
>> In fact there is so many "aside" programs with LyX that I am always 
>> afraid to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have 
>> fully update (reinstalling everything).
>> But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
>> say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
>> ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to 
>> update them directly.
>> As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?
>>
>
> Yes, that is correct.  Once you have all the ancillary programs installed 
> (although calling MikTeX "ancillary" is a bit of the tail wagging the 
> dog), you need only upgrade LyX itself (using the more compact of the 
> installers).  Similarly, ImageMagick, Ghostscript/GSView and MikTeX can be 
> upgraded independently.  (I would be a bit hesitant to upgrade Aspell, as 
> the connections from LyX to Aspell are hard-wired.) In point of fact, I 
> don't know that I've ever upgraded ImageMagick, I upgrade Ghostscript at 
> best sporadically, but I do try to keep MikTeX up to date, and that seems 
> to work well for me.
>
> /Paul
>
> 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 John == John McCabe-Dansted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John On 9/22/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John McCabe-Dansted wrote:  Wierd. I get nothing but a config
 directory and a development  directory. I can't find a configure
 script anywhere.

John Yes it was a bug in KDE Konqueror (or its plugins). Normal unix
John works fine.

This is because our tar file is in ustar format (contains very large
path names). GNU tar handles this correctly, but some tar utils fail.

We should provide a proper installation target for the OSX bundle to
handle that, but I never had time to do it.

JMarc


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Paul == Paul Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le
Paul message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
 ===
 

Paul Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you
Paul exactly mean with the patch. Shall I understand that I can
Paul upgrade from a - complete installation having used the windows
Paul installer from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and
Paul then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the patch below and being
Paul totally up to date for all soft's included in the complete
Paul version installer ?

The patch is only for people who compile from source. Windows users
should (when the windows installer is available) install 1.4.3 over
1.4.2.

JMarc


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Schwartz

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul == Paul Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 writes:

Paul Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a 
écrit dans le
Paul message de news: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
 ===


Paul Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you
Paul exactly mean with the patch. Shall I understand that I can
Paul upgrade from a - complete installation having used the windows
Paul installer from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and
Paul then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the patch below and being
Paul totally up to date for all soft's included in the complete
Paul version installer ?

The patch is only for people who compile from source. Windows users
should (when the windows installer is available) install 1.4.3 over
1.4.2.

JMarc

Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, I 
used the uninstaller program supplied with the former version to uninstall 
it.
Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
1.3.7.
However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that it 
is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.
My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.

Thanks

Paul





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Paul Schwartz wrote:



Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, I 
used the uninstaller program supplied with the former version to uninstall 
it.
Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
1.3.7.
However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that it 
is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.


Personally, I have 1.4.1, 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 installed in parallel, with no 
major problems.  (They all share configuration info, so preference 
changes in one apply to all, but to date I have not found any conflicts 
there.)


Interestingly, I have uninstallers for 1.4.1 and 1.4.3, but not for 1.4.2.

My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.


The 1.3.7 uninstaller is unlikely to know what to do to uninstall 1.4.1.

Have you checked Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs to make sure that 
1.4.1 is not listed there?  If it is, you should be able to uninstall it 
from there.


I just crawled my registry and didn't find anything particularly funky 
associated with the directory in which I have 1.4.1 installed.  So if I 
wanted to delete 1.4.1 and lacked the installer, here's what I would do: 
 install 1.4.3 first (in a different directory) and make sure it works 
(!); note down the path to 1.4.1 and then delete its root directory and 
all subdirectories; then either (a) quit while I'm ahead and live with a 
little harmless clutter in the registry or (b) run a registry cleaner 
program that hopefully would delete any keys referring to the now 
nonexistent 1.4.1 directory or (c) run regedit, search for all 
references to the deleted directory and manually delete them.


HTH,
Paul



Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Schwartz

Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message 
de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul Schwartz wrote:


 Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, 
 I used the uninstaller program supplied with the former version to 
 uninstall it.
 Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
 1.3.7.
 However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that 
 it is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.

 Personally, I have 1.4.1, 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 installed in parallel, with no 
 major problems.  (They all share configuration info, so preference changes 
 in one apply to all, but to date I have not found any conflicts there.)

 Interestingly, I have uninstallers for 1.4.1 and 1.4.3, but not for 1.4.2.

 My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
 complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
 unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.

 The 1.3.7 uninstaller is unlikely to know what to do to uninstall 1.4.1.

 Have you checked Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs to make sure that 
 1.4.1 is not listed there?  If it is, you should be able to uninstall it 
 from there.

 I just crawled my registry and didn't find anything particularly funky 
 associated with the directory in which I have 1.4.1 installed.  So if I 
 wanted to delete 1.4.1 and lacked the installer, here's what I would do: 
 install 1.4.3 first (in a different directory) and make sure it works (!); 
 note down the path to 1.4.1 and then delete its root directory and all 
 subdirectories; then either (a) quit while I'm ahead and live with a 
 little harmless clutter in the registry or (b) run a registry cleaner 
 program that hopefully would delete any keys referring to the now 
 nonexistent 1.4.1 directory or (c) run regedit, search for all references 
 to the deleted directory and manually delete them.

 HTH,
 Paul


Thanks for the detailed comments.
Regarding  Add/Remove Programs, you are right, it can be done from there, 
however when there is an uninstaller in a program, I do prefer to use it.
To go a bit further (pse don't sigh):
In fact there is so many aside programs with LyX that I am always afraid 
to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have fully update 
(reinstalling everything).
But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to update 
them directly.
As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?

Thanks
Paul 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 John == John McCabe-Dansted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John On 9/22/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John McCabe-Dansted wrote:  Wierd. I get nothing but a config
 directory and a development  directory. I can't find a configure
 script anywhere.

John Yes it was a bug in KDE Konqueror (or its plugins). Normal unix
John works fine.

This is because our tar file is in ustar format (contains very large
path names). GNU tar handles this correctly, but some tar utils fail.

We should provide a proper installation target for the OSX bundle to
handle that, but I never had time to do it.

JMarc


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Paul == Paul Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le
Paul message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
 ===
 

Paul Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you
Paul exactly mean with the patch. Shall I understand that I can
Paul upgrade from a - complete installation having used the windows
Paul installer from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and
Paul then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the patch below and being
Paul totally up to date for all soft's included in the complete
Paul version installer ?

The patch is only for people who compile from source. Windows users
should (when the windows installer is available) install 1.4.3 over
1.4.2.

JMarc


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Schwartz

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul == Paul Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 writes:

Paul Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a 
écrit dans le
Paul message de news: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
 ===


Paul Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you
Paul exactly mean with the patch. Shall I understand that I can
Paul upgrade from a - complete installation having used the windows
Paul installer from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and
Paul then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the patch below and being
Paul totally up to date for all soft's included in the complete
Paul version installer ?

The patch is only for people who compile from source. Windows users
should (when the windows installer is available) install 1.4.3 over
1.4.2.

JMarc

Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, I 
used the uninstaller program supplied with the former version to uninstall 
it.
Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
1.3.7.
However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that it 
is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.
My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.

Thanks

Paul





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Paul Schwartz wrote:



Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, I 
used the uninstaller program supplied with the former version to uninstall 
it.
Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
1.3.7.
However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that it 
is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.


Personally, I have 1.4.1, 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 installed in parallel, with no 
major problems.  (They all share configuration info, so preference 
changes in one apply to all, but to date I have not found any conflicts 
there.)


Interestingly, I have uninstallers for 1.4.1 and 1.4.3, but not for 1.4.2.

My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.


The 1.3.7 uninstaller is unlikely to know what to do to uninstall 1.4.1.

Have you checked Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs to make sure that 
1.4.1 is not listed there?  If it is, you should be able to uninstall it 
from there.


I just crawled my registry and didn't find anything particularly funky 
associated with the directory in which I have 1.4.1 installed.  So if I 
wanted to delete 1.4.1 and lacked the installer, here's what I would do: 
 install 1.4.3 first (in a different directory) and make sure it works 
(!); note down the path to 1.4.1 and then delete its root directory and 
all subdirectories; then either (a) quit while I'm ahead and live with a 
little harmless clutter in the registry or (b) run a registry cleaner 
program that hopefully would delete any keys referring to the now 
nonexistent 1.4.1 directory or (c) run regedit, search for all 
references to the deleted directory and manually delete them.


HTH,
Paul



Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Schwartz

Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message 
de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul Schwartz wrote:


 Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, 
 I used the uninstaller program supplied with the former version to 
 uninstall it.
 Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
 1.3.7.
 However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that 
 it is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.

 Personally, I have 1.4.1, 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 installed in parallel, with no 
 major problems.  (They all share configuration info, so preference changes 
 in one apply to all, but to date I have not found any conflicts there.)

 Interestingly, I have uninstallers for 1.4.1 and 1.4.3, but not for 1.4.2.

 My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
 complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
 unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.

 The 1.3.7 uninstaller is unlikely to know what to do to uninstall 1.4.1.

 Have you checked Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs to make sure that 
 1.4.1 is not listed there?  If it is, you should be able to uninstall it 
 from there.

 I just crawled my registry and didn't find anything particularly funky 
 associated with the directory in which I have 1.4.1 installed.  So if I 
 wanted to delete 1.4.1 and lacked the installer, here's what I would do: 
 install 1.4.3 first (in a different directory) and make sure it works (!); 
 note down the path to 1.4.1 and then delete its root directory and all 
 subdirectories; then either (a) quit while I'm ahead and live with a 
 little harmless clutter in the registry or (b) run a registry cleaner 
 program that hopefully would delete any keys referring to the now 
 nonexistent 1.4.1 directory or (c) run regedit, search for all references 
 to the deleted directory and manually delete them.

 HTH,
 Paul


Thanks for the detailed comments.
Regarding  Add/Remove Programs, you are right, it can be done from there, 
however when there is an uninstaller in a program, I do prefer to use it.
To go a bit further (pse don't sigh):
In fact there is so many aside programs with LyX that I am always afraid 
to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have fully update 
(reinstalling everything).
But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to update 
them directly.
As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?

Thanks
Paul 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John McCabe-Dansted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

John> On 9/22/06, Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > Wierd. I get nothing but a config
>> directory and a development > directory. I can't find a configure
>> script anywhere.

John> Yes it was a bug in KDE Konqueror (or its plugins). Normal unix
John> works fine.

This is because our tar file is in ustar format (contains very large
path names). GNU tar handles this correctly, but some tar utils fail.

We should provide a proper installation target for the OSX bundle to
handle that, but I never had time to do it.

JMarc


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Paul" == Paul Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> "Jean-Marc Lasgouttes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le
Paul> message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
>> ===
>> 

Paul> Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you
Paul> exactly mean with the "patch". Shall I understand that I can
Paul> upgrade from a - complete installation having used the windows
Paul> installer from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and
Paul> then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the patch "below" and being
Paul> totally up to date for all soft's included in the "complete
Paul> version installer" ?

The patch is only for people who compile from source. Windows users
should (when the windows installer is available) install 1.4.3 over
1.4.2.

JMarc


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Schwartz

"Jean-Marc Lasgouttes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit 
dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Paul" == Paul Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> writes:

Paul> "Jean-Marc Lasgouttes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a 
écrit dans le
Paul> message de news: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
>> ===
>>

Paul> Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you
Paul> exactly mean with the "patch". Shall I understand that I can
Paul> upgrade from a - complete installation having used the windows
Paul> installer from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and
Paul> then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the patch "below" and being
Paul> totally up to date for all soft's included in the "complete
Paul> version installer" ?

The patch is only for people who compile from source. Windows users
should (when the windows installer is available) install 1.4.3 over
1.4.2.

JMarc

Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, I 
used the "uninstaller" program supplied with the former version to uninstall 
it.
Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
1.3.7.
However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that it 
is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.
My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.

Thanks

Paul





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Paul Schwartz wrote:



Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, I 
used the "uninstaller" program supplied with the former version to uninstall 
it.
Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
1.3.7.
However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that it 
is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.


Personally, I have 1.4.1, 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 installed in parallel, with no 
major problems.  (They all share configuration info, so preference 
changes in one apply to all, but to date I have not found any conflicts 
there.)


Interestingly, I have uninstallers for 1.4.1 and 1.4.3, but not for 1.4.2.

My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.


The 1.3.7 uninstaller is unlikely to know what to do to uninstall 1.4.1.

Have you checked Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs to make sure that 
1.4.1 is not listed there?  If it is, you should be able to uninstall it 
from there.


I just crawled my registry and didn't find anything particularly funky 
associated with the directory in which I have 1.4.1 installed.  So if I 
wanted to delete 1.4.1 and lacked the installer, here's what I would do: 
 install 1.4.3 first (in a different directory) and make sure it works 
(!); note down the path to 1.4.1 and then delete its root directory and 
all subdirectories; then either (a) quit while I'm ahead and live with a 
little harmless clutter in the registry or (b) run a registry cleaner 
program that hopefully would delete any keys referring to the now 
nonexistent 1.4.1 directory or (c) run regedit, search for all 
references to the deleted directory and manually delete them.


HTH,
Paul



Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-22 Thread Paul Schwartz

"Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message 
de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Paul Schwartz wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry to disturb again and coming back so far but when I installed 1.3.7, 
>> I used the "uninstaller" program supplied with the former version to 
>> uninstall it.
>> Now if I want to uninstall 1.3.7, I still have a uninstall program inside 
>> 1.3.7.
>> However in 1.4.1, I just have an icon and nothing else and I am sure that 
>> it is far better to uninstall 1.4.1 ahead of installing 1.4.2 or 1.4.3.
>
> Personally, I have 1.4.1, 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 installed in parallel, with no 
> major problems.  (They all share configuration info, so preference changes 
> in one apply to all, but to date I have not found any conflicts there.)
>
> Interestingly, I have uninstallers for 1.4.1 and 1.4.3, but not for 1.4.2.
>
>> My question is how to unistall it properly (the one supplied with the 
>> complete version installer for windows without compiling). May I use the 
>> unistaller supplied with 1.3.7 or have you an better suggestion.
>
> The 1.3.7 uninstaller is unlikely to know what to do to uninstall 1.4.1.
>
> Have you checked Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs to make sure that 
> 1.4.1 is not listed there?  If it is, you should be able to uninstall it 
> from there.
>
> I just crawled my registry and didn't find anything particularly funky 
> associated with the directory in which I have 1.4.1 installed.  So if I 
> wanted to delete 1.4.1 and lacked the installer, here's what I would do: 
> install 1.4.3 first (in a different directory) and make sure it works (!); 
> note down the path to 1.4.1 and then delete its root directory and all 
> subdirectories; then either (a) quit while I'm ahead and live with a 
> little harmless clutter in the registry or (b) run a registry cleaner 
> program that hopefully would delete any keys referring to the now 
> nonexistent 1.4.1 directory or (c) run regedit, search for all references 
> to the deleted directory and manually delete them.
>
> HTH,
> Paul
>
>
Thanks for the detailed comments.
Regarding  Add/Remove Programs, you are right, it can be done from there, 
however when there is an uninstaller in a program, I do prefer to use it.
To go a bit further (pse don't sigh):
In fact there is so many "aside" programs with LyX that I am always afraid 
to miss one and for that reason, till today, each time I have fully update 
(reinstalling everything).
But, if I follow you properly, when you have got one installation, let us 
say 1.4.1, you just need to install 1.4.3 and keep former Miktex, 
ImageMagick, Ghostscript, Aspell ( I am not sure ) and GSView or to update 
them directly.
As such I should have just to download LyX 1.4.3. Am I correct ?

Thanks
Paul 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Ed Gatzke

Terrrifc!  Thanks to all the developers.  Easy access on windows will be huge.

Anybody report success installing over a 1.4.2 system on Windows?  Any known
issues?

I assume you should back up your Documents and Setting/userid/Application
Data/LyX1.4.x directory, just to make sure...

Ed





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
 Wierd. I get nothing but a config directory and a development
 directory. I can't find a configure script anywhere.

I've seen that as well in previous releases, but only inside the archieving 
software (ark in my case). After extracting, everything should be there.

Jürgen


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Paul Schwartz

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
 ===


Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you exactly 
mean  with the patch.
Shall I understand that I can upgrade from a
- complete installation having used the windows installer from 1.4.1 to 
1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the 
patch below and being totally up to date for all soft's included in the 
complete version installer ?

or is it better to uninstall and reinstall ?

Thanks for your kind answer

best regards

Paul 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread John McCabe-Dansted

On 9/22/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
 Wierd. I get nothing but a config directory and a development
 directory. I can't find a configure script anywhere.


Yes it was a bug in KDE Konqueror (or its plugins). Normal unix works fine.

--
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Ed Gatzke

Terrrifc!  Thanks to all the developers.  Easy access on windows will be huge.

Anybody report success installing over a 1.4.2 system on Windows?  Any known
issues?

I assume you should back up your Documents and Setting/userid/Application
Data/LyX1.4.x directory, just to make sure...

Ed





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
 Wierd. I get nothing but a config directory and a development
 directory. I can't find a configure script anywhere.

I've seen that as well in previous releases, but only inside the archieving 
software (ark in my case). After extracting, everything should be there.

Jürgen


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Paul Schwartz

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
 ===


Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you exactly 
mean  with the patch.
Shall I understand that I can upgrade from a
- complete installation having used the windows installer from 1.4.1 to 
1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the 
patch below and being totally up to date for all soft's included in the 
complete version installer ?

or is it better to uninstall and reinstall ?

Thanks for your kind answer

best regards

Paul 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread John McCabe-Dansted

On 9/22/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
 Wierd. I get nothing but a config directory and a development
 directory. I can't find a configure script anywhere.


Yes it was a bug in KDE Konqueror (or its plugins). Normal unix works fine.

--
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Ed Gatzke

Terrrifc!  Thanks to all the developers.  Easy access on windows will be huge.

Anybody report success installing over a 1.4.2 system on Windows?  Any known
issues?

I assume you should back up your "Documents and Setting/userid/Application
Data/LyX1.4.x directory, just to make sure...

Ed





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> Wierd. I get nothing but a config directory and a development
> directory. I can't find a configure script anywhere.

I've seen that as well in previous releases, but only inside the archieving 
software (ark in my case). After extracting, everything should be there.

Jürgen


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Paul Schwartz

"Jean-Marc Lasgouttes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit 
dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Public release of LyX version 1.4.3
> ===
>

Sorry, but as a neophyte i am not sure to understand what do you exactly 
mean  with the "patch".
Shall I understand that I can upgrade from a
- complete installation having used the windows installer from 1.4.1 to 
1.4.2 using the corresponding patch and then from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 using the 
patch "below" and being totally up to date for all soft's included in the 
"complete version installer" ?

or is it better to uninstall and reinstall ?

Thanks for your kind answer

best regards

Paul 





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread John McCabe-Dansted

On 9/22/06, Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> Wierd. I get nothing but a config directory and a development
> directory. I can't find a configure script anywhere.


Yes it was a bug in KDE Konqueror (or its plugins). Normal unix works fine.

--
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia