Re: [Bulk] Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-26 Thread Charles de Miramon
Marcelo Reis wrote:

> Charles de Miramon wrote:
>> Marcelo Reis wrote:
>>
>> A quick lokk at your problem seems to reveal that natbib is not
>> compatible with apalike or apalike2. Either you suppress the natbib
>> option and get back to plain bibtex but the formatting of the citation in
>> the bibliography, either you create your own style for natbib with the
>> package custom-bib.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Charles
>>   
> 
> Charles, I've hear about the custom-bib but I was not able to find how
> to do it under Windows, is it possible? ("I have searched on google as
> well")

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/custom-bib/

It is a command line program so you have to start it in a terminal in 
Windows. It will then ask you a myriad of questions and then spit a bst 
file. It is long and tedious and not very user friendly. Then you will have 
to put the bst file in a place where LaTeX can find it, renew the LaTeX 
index and normally you will be able to choose the style from LyX

I guess you already have custom-bib in your latex distribution somewhere on 
your hard disk.


> The other option that you told was suppress the natbib option (Under
> Document Settings in LYX, and choose Default or JURABIB? That is what
> you mean?)
Default.

Cheers,
Charles
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http://www.kde-france.org




Re: [Bulk] Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-26 Thread Marcelo Reis

Charles de Miramon wrote:

Marcelo Reis wrote:

A quick lokk at your problem seems to reveal that natbib is not compatible 
with apalike or apalike2. Either you suppress the natbib option and get back 
to plain bibtex but the formatting of the citation in the bibliography, 
either you create your own style for natbib with the package custom-bib.


Cheers,
Charles
  


Charles, I've hear about the custom-bib but I was not able to find how 
to do it under Windows, is it possible? ("I have searched on google as 
well")
I tried to use a java software called BIB-IT to create my own style too, 
but it has a lot of bugs and is not working well.

If I could use the custom-bib would be perfect.

The other option that you told was suppress the natbib option (Under 
Document Settings in LYX, and choose Default or JURABIB? That is what 
you mean?)
And what about the Plain Bibtex that you said? Do you mean the "plain" 
style ? (If I do this I will lose how the information is shown under 
Bibliography, :-(   )


Cheers,
Marcelo


Re: [Bulk] Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-26 Thread Charles de Miramon
Marcelo Reis wrote:

>>   
> I've sent the files directly to Kosta Welke and Charles de Miramon,
> I'm not sure how to send the files directly to the mail-list (I tried
> renaming the zip file to zip_, Txt - but the List was blocking) so If
> any other wants the examples files illustrating the problem , just let
> me know that I will send you the files.

A quick lokk at your problem seems to reveal that natbib is not compatible 
with apalike or apalike2. Either you suppress the natbib option and get back 
to plain bibtex but the formatting of the citation in the bibliography, 
either you create your own style for natbib with the package custom-bib.

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org




Re: [Bulk] Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-26 Thread Marcelo Reis

Kosta Welke wrote:

Hi Marcelo!

Could you create an example file that illustrates the problem and post
it here? (e.g. using a service like pastebin.com)

Cheers,

Kosta

  

I've sent the files directly to Kosta Welke and Charles de Miramon,
I'm not sure how to send the files directly to the mail-list (I tried 
renaming the zip file to zip_, Txt - but the List was blocking) so If 
any other wants the examples files illustrating the problem , just let 
me know that I will send you the files.


Thanks
Marcelo


Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-26 Thread Charles de Miramon
Marcelo Reis wrote:

 
> /Yes, Maybe I should try another way but since I spend a lot of time
> using JabRef, creating the Bib Files and other things I was trying first
> to solve this frustrating issue :-(
> Hope some one give me an idea.
> Thanks
> /
>>

natbib will work with your bib file done in JabRef. 

Have you read the LyX wiki : http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/BibTeX

I would also strongly recommend reading a good introduction to managing 
citations in LaTeX like chapter 12 and 13 of the LaTeX Companion (maybe it 
is translated in Portuguese).

Finally, like another poster said in the thread, without some example files, 
we cannot help you.

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org




Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-26 Thread Kosta Welke
Hi Marcelo!

Could you create an example file that illustrates the problem and post
it here? (e.g. using a service like pastebin.com)

Cheers,

Kosta


Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-25 Thread Marcelo Reis

cmira...@kde-france.org wrote:

Marcelo Reis wrote:
  

I tried A LOT of styles, and finally I was able to find one that I
thought that meet my needs.it is the ALIKE2 style.



I can't find anything called alike2.bst. Are you using natbib ?
  

/Sorry, the file can be found at:
C:\Arquivos de programas\MiKTeX 2.7\bibtex\bst\apalike\apalike2.bst

My only worry is: Why after I include any citation, all my  
Bibliographies is messed up :-(

Should not be this way, I think
/


  

I'm in this problem for weeks and I'm really tired of it, I would
appreciate a LOT if some one help me.



Don't worry. Bibliographies can be very frustrating and hard to debug.

You should give more details. Are you using natbib, jurabib, biblatex ? and
a small file with a small bib file.

It seems to me that what you want to achieve can be done with natbib. I
don't know very well natbib but look the documentation or wait that
somebody on the list with more knowledge answers.

Cheers,
Charles 
  
/Yes, Maybe I should try another way but since I spend a lot of time 
using JabRef, creating the Bib Files and other things I was trying first 
to solve this frustrating issue :-(

Hope some one give me an idea.
Thanks
/



  




Re: Bibliography Is really complex , or it is a bug

2009-05-25 Thread cmiramon
Marcelo Reis wrote:
> I tried A LOT of styles, and finally I was able to find one that I
> thought that meet my needs.it is the ALIKE2 style.

I can't find anything called alike2.bst. Are you using natbib ?


> I'm in this problem for weeks and I'm really tired of it, I would
> appreciate a LOT if some one help me.

Don't worry. Bibliographies can be very frustrating and hard to debug.

You should give more details. Are you using natbib, jurabib, biblatex ? and
a small file with a small bib file.

It seems to me that what you want to achieve can be done with natbib. I
don't know very well natbib but look the documentation or wait that
somebody on the list with more knowledge answers.

Cheers,
Charles