Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread stiv. djobz.
Hi all, In the new release 2.0.5, the check box of Do not swap Apple and Control keys does not work. I had this problem with 2.0.2 and asked questions as are quoted below. I didn't have this problem with 2.0.3 and 2.0.4. But with 2.0.5, I have it. I think that some of you may have got new

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 21.11.2012 um 13:39 schrieb stiv. djobz. stiv.dj...@gmail.com: Hi all, In the new release 2.0.5, the check box of Do not swap Apple and Control keys does not work. I had this problem with 2.0.2 and asked questions as are quoted below. I didn't have this problem with 2.0.3 and 2.0.4.

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Jens Nöckel
So far it seems that LyX 2.05 is working for me, with the Meta and Control keys switched. I have Mac OS X 10.7.5 and can't test on 10.8. But if it turns out that there's something wrong with the Cocoa Qt then one might want to go back to the previous Qt because there isn't really any usability

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Jens Nöckel
Sorry, when I said switched I meant _not_ switched. Otherwise my answer wouldn't have made much sense... So I don't see the problem Mr. Djobs is describing. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Jens Nöckel wrote: So far it seems that LyX 2.05 is working for me, with the Meta and Control keys

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread stiv. djobz.
Hi all, In the new release 2.0.5, the check box of Do not swap Apple and Control keys does not work. I had this problem with 2.0.2 and asked questions as are quoted below. I didn't have this problem with 2.0.3 and 2.0.4. But with 2.0.5, I have it. I think that some of you may have got new

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 21.11.2012 um 13:39 schrieb stiv. djobz. stiv.dj...@gmail.com: Hi all, In the new release 2.0.5, the check box of Do not swap Apple and Control keys does not work. I had this problem with 2.0.2 and asked questions as are quoted below. I didn't have this problem with 2.0.3 and 2.0.4.

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Jens Nöckel
So far it seems that LyX 2.05 is working for me, with the Meta and Control keys switched. I have Mac OS X 10.7.5 and can't test on 10.8. But if it turns out that there's something wrong with the Cocoa Qt then one might want to go back to the previous Qt because there isn't really any usability

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Jens Nöckel
Sorry, when I said switched I meant _not_ switched. Otherwise my answer wouldn't have made much sense... So I don't see the problem Mr. Djobs is describing. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Jens Nöckel wrote: So far it seems that LyX 2.05 is working for me, with the Meta and Control keys

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread stiv. djobz.
Hi all, In the new release 2.0.5, the check box of "Do not swap Apple and Control keys" does not work. I had this problem with 2.0.2 and asked questions as are quoted below. I didn't have this problem with 2.0.3 and 2.0.4. But with 2.0.5, I have it. I think that some of you may have got new

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 21.11.2012 um 13:39 schrieb stiv. djobz. : > Hi all, > > In the new release 2.0.5, the check box of "Do not swap Apple and Control > keys" does not work. > > I had this problem with 2.0.2 and asked questions as are quoted below. > I didn't have this problem with 2.0.3

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Jens Nöckel
So far it seems that LyX 2.05 is working for me, with the Meta and Control keys switched. I have Mac OS X 10.7.5 and can't test on 10.8. But if it turns out that there's something wrong with the Cocoa Qt then one might want to go back to the previous Qt because there isn't really any usability

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-11-21 Thread Jens Nöckel
Sorry, when I said switched I meant _not_ switched. Otherwise my answer wouldn't have made much sense... So I don't see the problem Mr. Djobs is describing. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Jens Nöckel wrote: > So far it seems that LyX 2.05 is working for me, with the Meta and Control > keys

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-03-03 Thread stiv. djobz.
Hi, It seems that in the new release 2.0.3., the checkbox Do not swap Apple and Control keys works. Thanks, stiv. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM, stiv. djobz. stiv.dj...@gmail.com wrote: I got the same results with a new user account. (except 22:24:24.362 in the Progress/Debug messages

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-03-03 Thread stiv. djobz.
Hi, It seems that in the new release 2.0.3., the checkbox Do not swap Apple and Control keys works. Thanks, stiv. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM, stiv. djobz. stiv.dj...@gmail.com wrote: I got the same results with a new user account. (except 22:24:24.362 in the Progress/Debug messages

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-03-03 Thread stiv. djobz.
Hi, It seems that in the new release 2.0.3., the checkbox "Do not swap Apple and Control keys" works. Thanks, stiv. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM, stiv. djobz. wrote: > I got the same results with a new user account. > (except "22:24:24.362" in the Progress/Debug

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-02 Thread stiv. djobz.
I got the same results with a new user account. (except 22:24:24.362 in the Progress/Debug messages below.) Thanks, stiv. When I typed control + b, I got

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-02 Thread Jens Nöckel
No easy solution then… I looked at the Qt bug tracker and didn't find anything that could explain this, except for this entry: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-14381 Since I can't reproduce this problem, I'm currently out of ideas. Maybe you could still check what happens if you

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-02 Thread stiv. djobz.
I got the same results with a new user account. (except 22:24:24.362 in the Progress/Debug messages below.) Thanks, stiv. When I typed control + b, I got

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-02 Thread Jens Nöckel
No easy solution then… I looked at the Qt bug tracker and didn't find anything that could explain this, except for this entry: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-14381 Since I can't reproduce this problem, I'm currently out of ideas. Maybe you could still check what happens if you

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-02 Thread stiv. djobz.
I got the same results with a new user account. (except "22:24:24.362" in the Progress/Debug messages below.) Thanks, stiv. When I typed control + b, I got

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-02 Thread Jens Nöckel
No easy solution then… I looked at the Qt bug tracker and didn't find anything that could explain this, except for this entry: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-14381 Since I can't reproduce this problem, I'm currently out of ideas. Maybe you could still check what happens if you

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-01 Thread stiv. djobz.
I tried 1) -- 8). I see the same problem as before. Command and control keys do not behave correctly. The result of 8) is preferences:\mac_dontswap_ctrl_meta true As for 5), in my case, Times is chosen at PreferencesScreen fontsRoman from the first. stiv. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Jens

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-01 Thread Jens Nöckel
So now it's becoming more likely that this is a low-level configuration problem with Qt (although I'm by no means certain). To test this, a stab in the dark suggestion would be: Create a new user account under the Mac's System Preferences Users and groups (you can of course delete this

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-01 Thread stiv. djobz.
I tried 1) -- 8). I see the same problem as before. Command and control keys do not behave correctly. The result of 8) is preferences:\mac_dontswap_ctrl_meta true As for 5), in my case, Times is chosen at PreferencesScreen fontsRoman from the first. stiv. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Jens

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-01 Thread Jens Nöckel
So now it's becoming more likely that this is a low-level configuration problem with Qt (although I'm by no means certain). To test this, a stab in the dark suggestion would be: Create a new user account under the Mac's System Preferences Users and groups (you can of course delete this

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-01 Thread stiv. djobz.
I tried 1) -- 8). I see the same problem as before. Command and control keys do not behave correctly. The result of 8) is preferences:\mac_dontswap_ctrl_meta true As for 5), in my case, Times is chosen at Preferences>Screen fonts>Roman from the first. stiv. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Jens

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-02-01 Thread Jens Nöckel
So now it's becoming more likely that this is a low-level configuration problem with Qt (although I'm by no means certain). To test this, a stab in the dark suggestion would be: Create a new user account under the Mac's "System Preferences > Users and groups" (you can of course delete this

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
It's new. I was using emacs shortcuts by checking this checkbox in 2.0.1. I noticed this problem immediately after I updated to 2.0.2. Checking and unchecking the box does not affect the keys in 2.0.2. Thanks, stiv. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote: Am

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
I made sure my keybindings are set properly as yours. For example, in 2.0.1, I could move the cursor backwards by typing ctrl + b with the checkbox ticked and by typing command +b with the checkbox unticked, and in 2.0.2, I have to type command + b in both the cases. I'm thinking of going back to

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 14:46 schrieb stiv. djobz.: I made sure my keybindings are set properly as yours. For example, in 2.0.1, I could move the cursor backwards by typing ctrl + b with the checkbox ticked and by typing command +b with the checkbox unticked, and in 2.0.2, I have to type

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
Thanks. This is my first time to see the progress/debug messages... The responses seems to be different. I moved the .bind files in /Library/Application Support/LyX-2.0/bind/ to another place and restart lyx 2.0.2 with the same settings as yours. When I type ctrl+b, nothing appears on the

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 16:36 schrieb stiv. djobz.: Thanks. This is my first time to see the progress/debug messages... You're very clever ;-) The responses seems to be different. Yes, unfortunately. I suppose you have saved you preferences and LyX was restarted. So, it should work. But indeed it

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
For confirmation, I downloaded lyx-2.0.2 from www.lyx.org. (I had been using the one from a mirror.) But the behavior did not change and I got the same messages. I have no special setting to the system either. The only difference I notice is that I use white Macbook with a Japanese keyboard. But

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Jens Nöckel
Hi, since I don't see the problem on either OS X 10.6.8 or 10.7.2, I just tried the following steps on my OS X 10.6.8 machine: 1) Move ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.0 to the Desktop. 2) Fresh download of LyX-2.0.2+qt4-cocoa.dmg from www.lyx.org 3) Move old LyX out of Application folder

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 19:16 schrieb Jens Nöckel: Hi, since I don't see the problem on either OS X 10.6.8 or 10.7.2, I just tried the following steps on my OS X 10.6.8 machine: ... Thanks for the good recipe. The last point is something you should definitely check, too. If you do the same

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
It's new. I was using emacs shortcuts by checking this checkbox in 2.0.1. I noticed this problem immediately after I updated to 2.0.2. Checking and unchecking the box does not affect the keys in 2.0.2. Thanks, stiv. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote: Am

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
I made sure my keybindings are set properly as yours. For example, in 2.0.1, I could move the cursor backwards by typing ctrl + b with the checkbox ticked and by typing command +b with the checkbox unticked, and in 2.0.2, I have to type command + b in both the cases. I'm thinking of going back to

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 14:46 schrieb stiv. djobz.: I made sure my keybindings are set properly as yours. For example, in 2.0.1, I could move the cursor backwards by typing ctrl + b with the checkbox ticked and by typing command +b with the checkbox unticked, and in 2.0.2, I have to type

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
Thanks. This is my first time to see the progress/debug messages... The responses seems to be different. I moved the .bind files in /Library/Application Support/LyX-2.0/bind/ to another place and restart lyx 2.0.2 with the same settings as yours. When I type ctrl+b, nothing appears on the

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 16:36 schrieb stiv. djobz.: Thanks. This is my first time to see the progress/debug messages... You're very clever ;-) The responses seems to be different. Yes, unfortunately. I suppose you have saved you preferences and LyX was restarted. So, it should work. But indeed it

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
For confirmation, I downloaded lyx-2.0.2 from www.lyx.org. (I had been using the one from a mirror.) But the behavior did not change and I got the same messages. I have no special setting to the system either. The only difference I notice is that I use white Macbook with a Japanese keyboard. But

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Jens Nöckel
Hi, since I don't see the problem on either OS X 10.6.8 or 10.7.2, I just tried the following steps on my OS X 10.6.8 machine: 1) Move ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.0 to the Desktop. 2) Fresh download of LyX-2.0.2+qt4-cocoa.dmg from www.lyx.org 3) Move old LyX out of Application folder

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 19:16 schrieb Jens Nöckel: Hi, since I don't see the problem on either OS X 10.6.8 or 10.7.2, I just tried the following steps on my OS X 10.6.8 machine: ... Thanks for the good recipe. The last point is something you should definitely check, too. If you do the same

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
It's new. I was using emacs shortcuts by checking this checkbox in 2.0.1. I noticed this problem immediately after I updated to 2.0.2. Checking and unchecking the box does not affect the keys in 2.0.2. Thanks, stiv. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: > Am

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
I made sure my keybindings are set properly as yours. For example, in 2.0.1, I could move the cursor backwards by typing ctrl + b with the checkbox ticked and by typing command +b with the checkbox unticked, and in 2.0.2, I have to type command + b in both the cases. I'm thinking of going back to

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 14:46 schrieb stiv. djobz.: > I made sure my keybindings are set properly as yours. > For example, > in 2.0.1, > I could move the cursor backwards by typing ctrl + b with the checkbox ticked > and by typing command +b with the checkbox unticked, > and in 2.0.2, > I have to

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
Thanks. This is my first time to see the progress/debug messages... The responses seems to be different. I moved the .bind files in /Library/Application Support/LyX-2.0/bind/ to another place and restart lyx 2.0.2 with the same settings as yours. When I type ctrl+b, nothing appears on the

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 16:36 schrieb stiv. djobz.: > Thanks. > This is my first time to see the progress/debug messages... You're very clever ;-) > The responses seems to be different. Yes, unfortunately. I suppose you have saved you preferences and LyX was restarted. So, it should work. But indeed

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread stiv. djobz.
For confirmation, I downloaded lyx-2.0.2 from www.lyx.org. (I had been using the one from a mirror.) But the behavior did not change and I got the same messages. I have no special setting to the system either. The only difference I notice is that I use white Macbook with a Japanese keyboard. But

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Jens Nöckel
Hi, since I don't see the problem on either OS X 10.6.8 or 10.7.2, I just tried the following steps on my OS X 10.6.8 machine: 1) Move ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.0 to the Desktop. 2) Fresh download of LyX-2.0.2+qt4-cocoa.dmg from www.lyx.org 3) Move old LyX out of Application folder

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-31 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 31.01.2012 um 19:16 schrieb Jens Nöckel: > Hi, > since I don't see the problem on either OS X 10.6.8 or 10.7.2, I just tried > the following steps on my OS X 10.6.8 machine: > ... Thanks for the good recipe. > The last point is something you should definitely check, too. If you do the >

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-30 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 30.01.2012 um 20:07 schrieb stiv. djobz.: The checkbox of Do not swap Apple and Control keys in LyXPreferencesEditingKeyboard/Mouse does not work in 2.0.2. Is it new in 2.0.2? And what does not work? I'm using emacs shortcuts, so this problem is serious for me. Is there any

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-30 Thread Christopher Menzel
Am Jan 30, 2012 um 8:07 PM schrieb stiv. djobz.: The checkbox of Do not swap Apple and Control keys in LyXPreferencesEditingKeyboard/Mouse does not work in 2.0.2. Hm, it doesn't seem to make any difference for me either, but fortunately, the Ctrl key is behaving for me as it ought

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-30 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 30.01.2012 um 20:07 schrieb stiv. djobz.: The checkbox of Do not swap Apple and Control keys in LyXPreferencesEditingKeyboard/Mouse does not work in 2.0.2. Is it new in 2.0.2? And what does not work? I'm using emacs shortcuts, so this problem is serious for me. Is there any

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-30 Thread Christopher Menzel
Am Jan 30, 2012 um 8:07 PM schrieb stiv. djobz.: The checkbox of Do not swap Apple and Control keys in LyXPreferencesEditingKeyboard/Mouse does not work in 2.0.2. Hm, it doesn't seem to make any difference for me either, but fortunately, the Ctrl key is behaving for me as it ought

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-30 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 30.01.2012 um 20:07 schrieb stiv. djobz.: > The checkbox of > "Do not swap Apple and Control keys" > in > LyX>Preferences>Editing>Keyboard/Mouse > does not work in 2.0.2. Is it new in 2.0.2? And what does not work? > I'm using emacs shortcuts, so this problem is serious for me. > Is

Re: Cannot block the swapping of Apple and Control keys (OS 10.6, LyX 2.0.2)

2012-01-30 Thread Christopher Menzel
Am Jan 30, 2012 um 8:07 PM schrieb stiv. djobz.: > The checkbox of > "Do not swap Apple and Control keys" > in > LyX>Preferences>Editing>Keyboard/Mouse > does not work in 2.0.2. Hm, it doesn't seem to make any difference for me either, but fortunately, the Ctrl key is behaving for me as it