Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2020, 07:50 -0400 schrieb UD Kap: > As I mentioned above, I have an old presentation, which was prepared > with Lyx/Beamer. I wanted to update it, by adding a new slide, which > was to be followed by a subsection header from the old presentation. > I inserted the new slide/frame from the Insert menu (Separated Frame > Below), which inserts a frame separator followed by Frame.. Frame > Title etc., following TNODT (The New Way Of Doing Things.) Upon > compiling (with no errors reported), that newly inserted frame and > frame title generates a blank space and other unexpected and > undesired effects. That is the reason I needed just a separator. My > mother told me I was special, but that situation must have happened > to others before, and might happen again, which is why I screamed > publicly for help. If you send a MWE showing this (mis)behavior, we could probably tell you what was needed (rather than a separator). Separators are, as the name says, only needed to separate environments (of the same type), for nothing else. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0400, UD Kap wrote: > > On 3/25/20 1:07 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2020, 12:33 -0400 schrieb UD Kap: > > Jurgen-- The alt-shift-P-return shortcut does not work in my > system/environment, and adding a separate frame (environment?) below > is not what I needed to separate one from from the one following it > in an existing presentation-- I needed just a separator. > > Why do you need a separator if no other frame follows? > > Jürgen > > > > > Jurgen & Scott, > > As I mentioned above, I have an old presentation, which was prepared > with Lyx/Beamer. I wanted to update it, by adding a new slide, which > was to be followed by a subsection header from the old presentation. > I inserted the new slide/frame from the Insert menu (Separated Frame > Below), which inserts a frame separator followed by Frame.. Frame > Title etc., following TNODT (The New Way Of Doing Things.) Upon > compiling (with no errors reported), that newly inserted frame and > frame title generates a blank space and other unexpected and > undesired effects. That is the reason I needed just a separator. My > mother told me I was special, but that situation must have happened > to others before, and might happen again, which is why I screamed > publicly for help. I see, thanks for the explanation, Ehud. Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
On 3/25/20 1:07 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2020, 12:33 -0400 schrieb UD Kap: Jurgen-- The alt-shift-P-return shortcut does not work in my system/environment, and adding a separate frame (environment?) below is not what I needed to separate one from from the one following it in an existing presentation-- I needed just a separator. Why do you need a separator if no other frame follows? Jürgen Jurgen & Scott, As I mentioned above, I have an old presentation, which was prepared with Lyx/Beamer. I wanted to update it, by adding a new slide, which was to be followed by a subsection header from the old presentation. I inserted the new slide/frame from the Insert menu (Separated Frame Below), which inserts a frame separator followed by Frame.. Frame Title etc., following TNODT (The New Way Of Doing Things.) Upon compiling (with no errors reported), that newly inserted frame and frame title generates a blank space and other unexpected and undesired effects. That is the reason I needed just a separator. My mother told me I was special, but that situation must have happened to others before, and might happen again, which is why I screamed publicly for help. EK -- Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D. Visiting Professor Dept. of Philosophy & History of Science Charles University, Prague & the National Institute of Mental Health, Topolová 748, Klecany Czechia -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2020, 12:33 -0400 schrieb UD Kap: > Jurgen-- The alt-shift-P-return shortcut does not work in my > system/environment, and adding a separate frame (environment?) below > is not what I needed to separate one from from the one following it > in an existing presentation-- I needed just a separator. Why do you need a separator if no other frame follows? Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:33:56PM -0400, UD Kap wrote: > Jurgen-- The alt-shift-P-return shortcut does not work in my system/ > environment, and adding a separate frame (environment?) below is not > what I needed to separate one from from the one following it in an > existing presentation-- I needed just a separator. Hi Ehud, Please bottom-post (https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ListNetiquette#tofu). Indeed, it is difficult and frustrating to transition to a new way of doing things. You might just want to stick with an older version of LyX until you have the time and energy to deal with the transition and to read Help > Specific Manuals > Beamer Presentations. If you send us a minimal example, and describe exactly what you would like to achieve as the end goal, we can tell you the "new" way of doing things. It's always fun to argue whether the new way of doing things is better/worse than the old way, but let's separate that discussion from "how do accomplish things in the new way?". As for just needing a separator, I'm not sure that manually inserting a separator is the best way to accomplish what you want to do in the *new* way of using Beamer in LyX. Extra credit reading: http://xyproblem.info/ https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample Best, Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
Jurgen-- The alt-shift-P-return shortcut does not work in my system/environment, and adding a separate frame (environment?) below is not what I needed to separate one from from the one following it in an existing presentation-- I needed just a separator. EK On 3/25/20 11:32 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2020, 14:43 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse: At the end of the frame, make the "environment" Standard (CMD-P S) and hit return. Or easier: Alt+P+Shift+Return (Insert > Separate environment below) All explained in Help > Specific Manuals > Beamer Presentation Jürgen PS. And no, I am not going to explain once more why the removal of the separator was necessary to get real beamer frame support -- Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D. Visiting Professor Dept. of Philosophy & History of Science Charles University, Prague & the National Institute of Mental Health, Topolová 748, Klecany Czechia --- Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System Neuroscience, The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology Icahn school of medicine at Mount Sinai One Gustave Levy Place New York, NY, 10029 USA -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
Thanks, EL-- that works. I cannot imagine why I did not think of it myself-- it is the most intuitive and obvious way of inserting a frame separator ;-) EK On 3/25/20 11:32 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2020, 14:43 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse: At the end of the frame, make the "environment" Standard (CMD-P S) and hit return. Or easier: Alt+P+Shift+Return (Insert > Separate environment below) All explained in Help > Specific Manuals > Beamer Presentation Jürgen PS. And no, I am not going to explain once more why the removal of the separator was necessary to get real beamer frame support -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2020, 14:43 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse: > At the end of the frame, make the "environment" Standard (CMD-P S) > and hit return. Or easier: Alt+P+Shift+Return (Insert > Separate environment below) All explained in Help > Specific Manuals > Beamer Presentation Jürgen PS. And no, I am not going to explain once more why the removal of the separator was necessary to get real beamer frame support signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
You are welcome. But, that only means you don't write enough presentations with LyX/Beamer :-)-O greetings, el On 2020-03-25 14:55 , Pavel Sanda wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 02:43:08PM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: >> At the end of the frame, make the "environment" Standard (CMD-P S) and >> hit return. > > Nice, I did not know about that myself :) > Pavel > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 02:43:08PM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: > At the end of the frame, make the "environment" Standard (CMD-P S) and > hit return. Nice, I did not know about that myself :) Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
At the end of the frame, make the "environment" Standard (CMD-P S) and hit return. el On 2020-03-24 21:30 , UD Kap wrote: > As if the Corona Virus wasn't enough, now it turns out that Lyx has lost > (removed?) the ability to insert an end-of-frame separator in Beamer > presentations documents! What is the world coming to? > > It seems that if you hold your mouth just right, you could still > get a frame separator by some tricks, but why was the convenient way of > doing it, through the menu, removed? Don't we have trouble enough in > the world? > > Ehud Kaplan > > > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
Paul & Pavel (Paul2?)-- I am using 2.3.4.2 (latest, I think) under Linux/Mint-XFCE 19.3 (latest). I found the Separated Frame Below(above) on my own, before I nagged you, but it inserts not only a separator, but a NEW FRAME-- a separator PLUS an open frame, which needs to be removed, because it creates a blank frame in the presentation. Deleting it also deletes the desired separator, and we are back to square one. I tried the shortcuts, but they did not work on my system. This should not be THAT difficult, and it did not used to be. Yours, Ehud Kaplan On 3/24/20 4:46 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: On 3/24/20 3:30 PM, UD Kap wrote: As if the Corona Virus wasn't enough, now it turns out that Lyx has lost (removed?) the ability to insert an end-of-frame separator in Beamer presentations documents! What is the world coming to? It seems that if you hold your mouth just right, you could still get a frame separator by some tricks, but why was the convenient way of doing it, through the menu, removed? Don't we have trouble enough in the world? Ehud Kaplan What version of LyX are you using? I'm on 2.3.4.2, where Insert > Separated Frame Above and Insert > Separated Frame Below are alive and showing no signs of infection (with the latter even having a keyboard shortcut). Paul -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
On 3/24/20 3:30 PM, UD Kap wrote: As if the Corona Virus wasn't enough, now it turns out that Lyx has lost (removed?) the ability to insert an end-of-frame separator in Beamer presentations documents! What is the world coming to? It seems that if you hold your mouth just right, you could still get a frame separator by some tricks, but why was the convenient way of doing it, through the menu, removed? Don't we have trouble enough in the world? Ehud Kaplan What version of LyX are you using? I'm on 2.3.4.2, where Insert > Separated Frame Above and Insert > Separated Frame Below are alive and showing no signs of infection (with the latter even having a keyboard shortcut). Paul -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: End-of-frame separator in lyx/Beamer
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 03:30:36PM -0400, UD Kap wrote: >As if the Corona Virus wasn't enough, now it turns out that Lyx has lost >(removed?) the ability to insert an end-of-frame separator in Beamer >presentations documents!* What is the world coming to?* > > It seems that if you hold your mouth just right, you could still get >a frame separator by some tricks, but why was the convenient way of doing >it, through the menu, removed?* Don't we have trouble enough in the world? :) The beamer was completely reworked while ago. It is now more powerful, but the workflow is more harder esp. if you get used to the older ways. If you are inside slide and want to start next slide (that's why you want the end of frame separator, right?) you just go to the Insert menu -> Separated Frame below. This will insert frame end && new frame after that. I strongly advise to look on new beamer examples, this is not the only surprise you will encounter... Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
