Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
Am Sonntag, dem 16.01.2022 um 18:00 -0500 schrieb Paul A. Rubin via
lyx-users:
> As far as how the braces are placed, I don't think there is any way
> to change that other than ERT.
The reason is that it is not easy for LyX to guess what follows. With a
character, a space needs to be inserted to terminate the command, but
with another command, this space must be omitted as it would result in
a real space. Braces work in both cases.
Note though that forthcoming LyX 2.4 will be smarter and output, with
your example:
{\Large\textsl{Here is some long long long and even longer text that
spans multiple lines of a paragraph in large size and slanted
style.}}{\Large\par}
There is also a reason for size switches coming before font style
markup. I can't remember the details now but this is the only order
that works in all cases.
HTH,
Jürgen
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
Am Sonntag, dem 16.01.2022 um 16:16 -0500 schrieb Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users: > As I suspected, the issue is that the text you are formatting occurs > at the very end of a paragraph. And the reason why it is inserted is line spacing. This is wrong if the \par is not resized, at least if whole paragraphs are in a non-standard size. See attached example which uses Paul's advise but with an empty ERT rather than a space. Jürgen mwe large slanted text.lyx Description: application/lyx signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
On 1/16/22 4:27 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
That is certainly an advance. Thanks a lot!
The output I get is
\textsl{\Large{}Here is some text in large size and slanted style.}
Any possibility to make it
{\textsl{\large Here is some text in large size and slanted style.}}
?
PLEASE bottom post in the future.
The difference between \large with a lower case "L" and \Large with a
capital "L" comes down to whether you choose "Large" (the former) or
"Larger" (the latter) in the font dialog.
As far as how the braces are placed, I don't think there is any way to
change that other than ERT.
Paul
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
That is certainly an advance. Thanks a lot!
The output I get is
\textsl{\Large{}Here is some text in large size and slanted style.}
Any possibility to make it
{\textsl{\large Here is some text in large size and slanted style.}}
?
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On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 11:16 PM, Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users
wrote:
> On 1/16/22 4:02 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
>
>> Sure, I will take notice of the thread organization. I am new to mailing
>> lists.
>>
>> Yes, the "unwanted formatting" refer to {\large\par}.
>>
>> Here is a (really) MWE.
>>
>> On 1/16/22 3:46 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
>>>
>>
>> The shape works the way I want, but the sizing rather gives the
>>
>>>
>>
>> unwanted formatting.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>>
>>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:43 PM, <
>> [ehud.behar at
>> protonmail.com](http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users)
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Could you tell me how to apply the style so that the code is the way
>>
>>
>> I want it to be?
>>
>>
>>
>> I selected the whole line, maybe lyx sees it as a paragraph.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:38 PM, Paul A. Rubin via
>>
>>
>> lyx-users <
>> [lyx-users at lists.lyx.org](http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users)
>>> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> On 1/16/22 3:05 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to insert the following styled text to my document:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> {\large{\textsl{Some text goes here}}
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is what a a LaTeX user would have inserted into his .tex file.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If I select my text in LyX and right click it and choose Text Style
>>
>>
>>
>> -> Customized...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I can apply the aforementioned features, i.e. slanted shape and
>>
>>
>>
>> large size, but the command LyX inserts is not the one above, but
>>
>>
>>
>> rather
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> \textsl{\large{}Some text goes here}{\large\par}
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to achieve what I first wrote, rather than inserting
>>
>>
>>
>> ERT commands?
>>
>>
>>
>
>>
>> That last {\large\par} may have something to do with how you
>>
>
>>
>> selected the text before applying the style change. In a test
>>
>
>>
>> document, I did not encounter that. Comparing your ERT version with
>>
>
>>
>> the customized style version, I can confirm the difference in the
>>
>
>>
>> LaTeX commands but see no difference in the output. Is there a
>>
>
>>
>> reason why you are unhappy with what LyX enters?
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> First, please bottom post.
>>
>> Second, does the "unwanted formatting" refer to {\large\par}? If so, we
>> would need a minimal example. It would need to be a self-contained
>> document (your previous MWE had include commands for child documents not
>> attached to the message), preferably with as little customization as
>> possible. Every package you add, font or language change you make, etc.
>> makes it a bit less likely that someone on the list has all the packages
>> necessary to compile your MWE.
>>
>> If by "unwanted formatting" you mean that you really want the LaTeX
>> commands entered in the order you used in your ERT, I doubt that is
>> possible without resorting to ERT.
>>
>> Paul
>
> As I suspected, the issue is that the text you are formatting occurs at the
> very end of a paragraph. The following is a bit "hacky" but solves the
> problem. First, add a space after the end of the text. Then select the text
> (excluding that extra space) and make the style change. The trailing space on
> the first line is harmless, but feel free to delete it if you wish.
>
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
On 1/16/22 4:02 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
Sure, I will take notice of the thread organization. I am new to
mailing lists.
Yes, the "unwanted formatting" refer to {\large\par}.
Here is a (really) MWE.
On 1/16/22 3:46 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
>/The shape works the way I want, but the sizing rather gives the />/unwanted formatting. />//>/‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ />/On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:43 PM, protonmail.com > />/wrote: />>/Could you tell me how to apply the style so that the code is the way />>/I want it to be? />>//>>/I selected the whole line, maybe lyx sees it as a paragraph. />>//>>//>>/‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ />>/On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:38 PM, Paul A. Rubin via />>/lyx-users > wrote: />>>/On 1/16/22 3:05 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote: //I want to insert the following styled text to my document: ////{\large{\textsl{Some text goes here}} //////This is what a a LaTeX user would have inserted into his .tex file. ////If I select my text in LyX and right click it and choose Text Style //-> Customized... ////I can apply the aforementioned features, i.e. slanted shape and //large size, but the command LyX inserts is not the one above, but //rather ////\textsl{\large{}Some text goes here}{\large\par} //////Is it possible to achieve what I first wrote, rather than inserting //ERT commands? ///>>>/That last {\large\par} may have something to do with how you />>>/selected the text before applying the style change. In a test />>>/document, I did not encounter that. Comparing your ERT version with />>>/the customized style version, I can confirm the difference in the />>>/LaTeX commands but see no difference in the output. Is there a />>>/reason why you are unhappy with what LyX enters? />>>//>>>/Paul />>>//>>//>//>//First, please bottom post.
Second, does the "unwanted formatting" refer to {\large\par}? If so, we
would need a minimal example. It would need to be a self-contained
document (your previous MWE had include commands for child documents not
attached to the message), preferably with as little customization as
possible. Every package you add, font or language change you make, etc.
makes it a bit less likely that someone on the list has all the packages
necessary to compile your MWE.
If by "unwanted formatting" you mean that you really want the LaTeX
commands entered in the order you used in your ERT, I doubt that is
possible without resorting to ERT.
Paul
As I suspected, the issue is that the text you are formatting occurs at
the very end of a paragraph. The following is a bit "hacky" but solves
the problem. First, add a space after the end of the text. Then select
the text (excluding that extra space) and make the style change. The
trailing space on the first line is harmless, but feel free to delete it
if you wish.
Paul
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
Sure, I will take notice of the thread organization. I am new to mailing lists.
Yes, the "unwanted formatting" refer to {\large\par}.
Here is a (really) MWE.
On 1/16/22 3:46 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
>
The shape works the way I want, but the sizing rather gives the
>
unwanted formatting.
>
>
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:43 PM, <
[ehud.behar at protonmail.com](http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users)
>
>
wrote:
>>
Could you tell me how to apply the style so that the code is the way
>>
I want it to be?
>>
>>
I selected the whole line, maybe lyx sees it as a paragraph.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:38 PM, Paul A. Rubin via
>>
lyx-users <
[lyx-users at lists.lyx.org](http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users)
> wrote:
>>>
On 1/16/22 3:05 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
I want to insert the following styled text to my document:
{\large{\textsl{Some text goes here}}
This is what a a LaTeX user would have inserted into his .tex file.
If I select my text in LyX and right click it and choose Text Style
-> Customized...
I can apply the aforementioned features, i.e. slanted shape and
large size, but the command LyX inserts is not the one above, but
rather
\textsl{\large{}Some text goes here}{\large\par}
Is it possible to achieve what I first wrote, rather than inserting
ERT commands?
>>>
That last {\large\par} may have something to do with how you
>>>
selected the text before applying the style change. In a test
>>>
document, I did not encounter that. Comparing your ERT version with
>>>
the customized style version, I can confirm the difference in the
>>>
LaTeX commands but see no difference in the output. Is there a
>>>
reason why you are unhappy with what LyX enters?
>>>
>>>
Paul
>>>
>>
>
>
First, please bottom post.
Second, does the "unwanted formatting" refer to {\large\par}? If so, we
would need a minimal example. It would need to be a self-contained
document (your previous MWE had include commands for child documents not
attached to the message), preferably with as little customization as
possible. Every package you add, font or language change you make, etc.
makes it a bit less likely that someone on the list has all the packages
necessary to compile your MWE.
If by "unwanted formatting" you mean that you really want the LaTeX
commands entered in the order you used in your ERT, I doubt that is
possible without resorting to ERT.
Paul
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
On 1/16/22 3:46 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
The shape works the way I want, but the sizing rather gives the
unwanted formatting.
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:43 PM,
wrote:
Could you tell me how to apply the style so that the code is the way
I want it to be?
I selected the whole line, maybe lyx sees it as a paragraph.
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On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:38 PM, Paul A. Rubin via
lyx-users wrote:
On 1/16/22 3:05 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
I want to insert the following styled text to my document:
{\large{\textsl{Some text goes here}}
This is what a a LaTeX user would have inserted into his .tex file.
If I select my text in LyX and right click it and choose Text Style
-> Customized...
I can apply the aforementioned features, i.e. slanted shape and
large size, but the command LyX inserts is not the one above, but
rather
\textsl{\large{}Some text goes here}{\large\par}
Is it possible to achieve what I first wrote, rather than inserting
ERT commands?
That last {\large\par} may have something to do with how you
selected the text before applying the style change. In a test
document, I did not encounter that. Comparing your ERT version with
the customized style version, I can confirm the difference in the
LaTeX commands but see no difference in the output. Is there a
reason why you are unhappy with what LyX enters?
Paul
First, please bottom post.
Second, does the "unwanted formatting" refer to {\large\par}? If so, we
would need a minimal example. It would need to be a self-contained
document (your previous MWE had include commands for child documents not
attached to the message), preferably with as little customization as
possible. Every package you add, font or language change you make, etc.
makes it a bit less likely that someone on the list has all the packages
necessary to compile your MWE.
If by "unwanted formatting" you mean that you really want the LaTeX
commands entered in the order you used in your ERT, I doubt that is
possible without resorting to ERT.
Paul
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
The shape works the way I want, but the sizing rather gives the unwanted
formatting.
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On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:43 PM, wrote:
> Could you tell me how to apply the style so that the code is the way I want
> it to be?
>
> I selected the whole line, maybe lyx sees it as a paragraph.
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:38 PM, Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/16/22 3:05 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
>>
>>> I want to insert the following styled text to my document:
>>>
>>> {\large{\textsl{Some text goes here}}
>>>
>>> This is what a a LaTeX user would have inserted into his .tex file.
>>>
>>> If I select my text in LyX and right click it and choose Text Style ->
>>> Customized...
>>>
>>> I can apply the aforementioned features, i.e. slanted shape and large size,
>>> but the command LyX inserts is not the one above, but rather
>>>
>>> \textsl{\large{}Some text goes here}{\large\par}
>>>
>>> Is it possible to achieve what I first wrote, rather than inserting ERT
>>> commands?
>>
>> That last {\large\par} may have something to do with how you selected the
>> text before applying the style change. In a test document, I did not
>> encounter that. Comparing your ERT version with the customized style
>> version, I can confirm the difference in the LaTeX commands but see no
>> difference in the output. Is there a reason why you are unhappy with what
>> LyX enters?
>>
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
Could you tell me how to apply the style so that the code is the way I want it
to be?
I selected the whole line, maybe lyx sees it as a paragraph.
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On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 10:38 PM, Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users
wrote:
> On 1/16/22 3:05 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
>
>> I want to insert the following styled text to my document:
>>
>> {\large{\textsl{Some text goes here}}
>>
>> This is what a a LaTeX user would have inserted into his .tex file.
>>
>> If I select my text in LyX and right click it and choose Text Style ->
>> Customized...
>>
>> I can apply the aforementioned features, i.e. slanted shape and large size,
>> but the command LyX inserts is not the one above, but rather
>>
>> \textsl{\large{}Some text goes here}{\large\par}
>>
>> Is it possible to achieve what I first wrote, rather than inserting ERT
>> commands?
>
> That last {\large\par} may have something to do with how you selected the
> text before applying the style change. In a test document, I did not
> encounter that. Comparing your ERT version with the customized style version,
> I can confirm the difference in the LaTeX commands but see no difference in
> the output. Is there a reason why you are unhappy with what LyX enters?
>
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Re: How to (correctly) insert large and slanted text
On 1/16/22 3:05 PM, tush via lyx-users wrote:
I want to insert the following styled text to my document:
{\large{\textsl{Some text goes here}}
This is what a a LaTeX user would have inserted into his .tex file.
If I select my text in LyX and right click it and choose Text Style ->
Customized...
I can apply the aforementioned features, i.e. slanted shape and large
size, but the command LyX inserts is not the one above, but rather
\textsl{\large{}Some text goes here}{\large\par}
Is it possible to achieve what I first wrote, rather than inserting
ERT commands?
That last {\large\par} may have something to do with how you selected
the text before applying the style change. In a test document, I did not
encounter that. Comparing your ERT version with the customized style
version, I can confirm the difference in the LaTeX commands but see no
difference in the output. Is there a reason why you are unhappy with
what LyX enters?
Paul
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