Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:


 I read the NEWS and README files and cannot find what happened to all the
different view options I had up through 1.3.7. No dvi output, no pdflatex, no
long list of options. Only PDF4.



 I went looking to see how to restore what used to be there but did not find
a README file or menu option.


  OK. Got that worked out. Had to run 'reconfigure', kill the process, then
re-invoke it. They're all back now.


 Also, as an aside, are there text-only options for the menus?


  This is still an open question.

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
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Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 22:19, Rich Shepard wrote:
    Also, as an aside, are there text-only options for the menus?

  As discussed in other thread that is true if you want permanent 
configuration, for session-wide the right button over the toolbar gives you 
more options.

  I hope I am answering your question. :-)

 Thanks,

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


 As discussed in other thread that is true if you want permanent
configuration, for session-wide the right button over the toolbar gives you
more options.



 I hope I am answering your question. :-)


Jose',

  I must have missed the pertinent messages in the other thread. When I press
the right button while the cursor is over a tool bar I get a box that allows
me to turn on/off Standard | Extra | Table | Math | Command buffer. What I
would very much like is words rather than pictures in the toolbar, and a way
of putting them on a single line rather than two half-lines.

  I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
answers there.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:


 I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
answers there.


  Well, reading /usr/local/share/lyx/ui/stdtoolbars.ui (and the other three
files) leaves me more confused than enlightened. I don't see the references
to the lib/image/action.xpm.

  I see that menu position can be defined as top, bottom, or side. What
controls how many lines of toolbar are present? On my 1280x1024 17 LCD
monitor, I have two half-line toolbars. I'd like to place them on the same
line but haven't figured out the magic to do that.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 23:02, Rich Shepard wrote:

 Jose',

I must have missed the pertinent messages in the other thread. When I
 press the right button while the cursor is over a tool bar I get a box that
 allows me to turn on/off Standard | Extra | Table | Math | Command buffer.
 What I would very much like is words rather than pictures in the toolbar,
 and a way of putting them on a single line rather than two half-lines.

  Oops, I am sorry I misunderstood your question.

  As far as I know what you want is not possible (yet) but I agree that is a 
nice touch. An entry in bugzilla would be usefull for us not forget your 
request.

I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
 answers there.

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


 As far as I know what you want is not possible (yet) but I agree that is a
nice touch. An entry in bugzilla would be usefull for us not forget your
request.


  Ah, OK. I'll make that entry.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 23:16, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:
   I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
  answers there.

Well, reading /usr/local/share/lyx/ui/stdtoolbars.ui (and the other
 three files) leaves me more confused than enlightened. I don't see the
 references to the lib/image/action.xpm.

One example:
Toolbar extra Extra
Item Numbered list layout Enumerate
...

  The icon is called layout_Enumerate.xpm

...
Item Set top line tabular-feature toggle-line-top
...

  The icon is called tabular-feature_toggle-line-top.xpm

  The basic rule for the icon name is to use the lyx commands where the spaces 
have been replaced by an _underscore_.

I see that menu position can be defined as top, bottom, or side. What
 controls how many lines of toolbar are present? On my 1280x1024 17 LCD
 monitor, I have two half-line toolbars. I'd like to place them on the same
 line but haven't figured out the magic to do that.

  That is the syntax:
Toolbars
standard on,top
extra on,top
table off,bottom
math off,bottom
minibuffer off,bottom
End

Each line is of the form:
toolbar_name state, placement

The first entry is the name of the toolbar.

state has three possible values: on, off or auto. auto means that only shows 
when the functions can be used.

placement is (well) the placement and can only be bottom or top.

 Thanks,

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


One example:
Toolbar extra Extra
   Item Numbered list layout Enumerate
 The icon is called layout_Enumerate.xpm
   Item Set top line tabular-feature toggle-line-top
 The icon is called tabular-feature_toggle-line-top.xpm


Jose',

  I wondered if that was the case, but did not go digging to see the
filenames.


 That is the syntax:
Toolbars

  ...

placement is (well) the placement and can only be bottom or top.


  OK. I'll request some flexibility here, too.

Many thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Rich == Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rich What I would very much like is words rather than pictures in the
Rich toolbar, 

That should not be too difficult.

Rich and a way of putting them on a single line rather than two
Rich half-lines.

This would be a bit more work I guess.

RichI'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find
Rich the answers there.

You won't.

JMarc

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:


 I read the NEWS and README files and cannot find what happened to all the
different view options I had up through 1.3.7. No dvi output, no pdflatex, no
long list of options. Only PDF4.



 I went looking to see how to restore what used to be there but did not find
a README file or menu option.


  OK. Got that worked out. Had to run 'reconfigure', kill the process, then
re-invoke it. They're all back now.


 Also, as an aside, are there text-only options for the menus?


  This is still an open question.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 22:19, Rich Shepard wrote:
    Also, as an aside, are there text-only options for the menus?

  As discussed in other thread that is true if you want permanent 
configuration, for session-wide the right button over the toolbar gives you 
more options.

  I hope I am answering your question. :-)

 Thanks,

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


 As discussed in other thread that is true if you want permanent
configuration, for session-wide the right button over the toolbar gives you
more options.



 I hope I am answering your question. :-)


Jose',

  I must have missed the pertinent messages in the other thread. When I press
the right button while the cursor is over a tool bar I get a box that allows
me to turn on/off Standard | Extra | Table | Math | Command buffer. What I
would very much like is words rather than pictures in the toolbar, and a way
of putting them on a single line rather than two half-lines.

  I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
answers there.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:


 I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
answers there.


  Well, reading /usr/local/share/lyx/ui/stdtoolbars.ui (and the other three
files) leaves me more confused than enlightened. I don't see the references
to the lib/image/action.xpm.

  I see that menu position can be defined as top, bottom, or side. What
controls how many lines of toolbar are present? On my 1280x1024 17 LCD
monitor, I have two half-line toolbars. I'd like to place them on the same
line but haven't figured out the magic to do that.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 23:02, Rich Shepard wrote:

 Jose',

I must have missed the pertinent messages in the other thread. When I
 press the right button while the cursor is over a tool bar I get a box that
 allows me to turn on/off Standard | Extra | Table | Math | Command buffer.
 What I would very much like is words rather than pictures in the toolbar,
 and a way of putting them on a single line rather than two half-lines.

  Oops, I am sorry I misunderstood your question.

  As far as I know what you want is not possible (yet) but I agree that is a 
nice touch. An entry in bugzilla would be usefull for us not forget your 
request.

I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
 answers there.

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


 As far as I know what you want is not possible (yet) but I agree that is a
nice touch. An entry in bugzilla would be usefull for us not forget your
request.


  Ah, OK. I'll make that entry.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 23:16, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:
   I'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find the
  answers there.

Well, reading /usr/local/share/lyx/ui/stdtoolbars.ui (and the other
 three files) leaves me more confused than enlightened. I don't see the
 references to the lib/image/action.xpm.

One example:
Toolbar extra Extra
Item Numbered list layout Enumerate
...

  The icon is called layout_Enumerate.xpm

...
Item Set top line tabular-feature toggle-line-top
...

  The icon is called tabular-feature_toggle-line-top.xpm

  The basic rule for the icon name is to use the lyx commands where the spaces 
have been replaced by an _underscore_.

I see that menu position can be defined as top, bottom, or side. What
 controls how many lines of toolbar are present? On my 1280x1024 17 LCD
 monitor, I have two half-line toolbars. I'd like to place them on the same
 line but haven't figured out the magic to do that.

  That is the syntax:
Toolbars
standard on,top
extra on,top
table off,bottom
math off,bottom
minibuffer off,bottom
End

Each line is of the form:
toolbar_name state, placement

The first entry is the name of the toolbar.

state has three possible values: on, off or auto. auto means that only shows 
when the functions can be used.

placement is (well) the placement and can only be bottom or top.

 Thanks,

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


One example:
Toolbar extra Extra
   Item Numbered list layout Enumerate
 The icon is called layout_Enumerate.xpm
   Item Set top line tabular-feature toggle-line-top
 The icon is called tabular-feature_toggle-line-top.xpm


Jose',

  I wondered if that was the case, but did not go digging to see the
filenames.


 That is the syntax:
Toolbars

  ...

placement is (well) the placement and can only be bottom or top.


  OK. I'll request some flexibility here, too.

Many thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Rich == Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rich What I would very much like is words rather than pictures in the
Rich toolbar, 

That should not be too difficult.

Rich and a way of putting them on a single line rather than two
Rich half-lines.

This would be a bit more work I guess.

RichI'll go back to the Help-Customization and see if I can find
Rich the answers there.

You won't.

JMarc

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:


 I read the NEWS and README files and cannot find what happened to all the
different view options I had up through 1.3.7. No dvi output, no pdflatex, no
long list of options. Only PDF4.



 I went looking to see how to restore what used to be there but did not find
a README file or menu option.


  OK. Got that worked out. Had to run 'reconfigure', kill the process, then
re-invoke it. They're all back now.


 Also, as an aside, are there text-only options for the menus?


  This is still an open question.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 22:19, Rich Shepard wrote:
>    Also, as an aside, are there text-only options for the menus?

  As discussed in other thread that is true if you want permanent 
configuration, for session-wide the right button over the toolbar gives you 
more options.

  I hope I am answering your question. :-)

> Thanks,
>
> Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


 As discussed in other thread that is true if you want permanent
configuration, for session-wide the right button over the toolbar gives you
more options.



 I hope I am answering your question. :-)


Jose',

  I must have missed the pertinent messages in the other thread. When I press
the right button while the cursor is over a tool bar I get a box that allows
me to turn on/off Standard | Extra | Table | Math | Command buffer. What I
would very much like is words rather than pictures in the toolbar, and a way
of putting them on a single line rather than two half-lines.

  I'll go back to the Help->Customization and see if I can find the
answers there.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:


 I'll go back to the Help->Customization and see if I can find the
answers there.


  Well, reading /usr/local/share/lyx/ui/stdtoolbars.ui (and the other three
files) leaves me more confused than enlightened. I don't see the references
to the lib/image/action.xpm.

  I see that menu position can be defined as top, bottom, or side. What
controls how many lines of toolbar are present? On my 1280x1024 17" LCD
monitor, I have two half-line toolbars. I'd like to place them on the same
line but haven't figured out the magic to do that.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 23:02, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
> Jose',
>
>I must have missed the pertinent messages in the other thread. When I
> press the right button while the cursor is over a tool bar I get a box that
> allows me to turn on/off Standard | Extra | Table | Math | Command buffer.
> What I would very much like is words rather than pictures in the toolbar,
> and a way of putting them on a single line rather than two half-lines.

  Oops, I am sorry I misunderstood your question.

  As far as I know what you want is not possible (yet) but I agree that is a 
nice touch. An entry in bugzilla would be usefull for us not forget your 
request.

>I'll go back to the Help->Customization and see if I can find the
> answers there.
>
> Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


 As far as I know what you want is not possible (yet) but I agree that is a
nice touch. An entry in bugzilla would be usefull for us not forget your
request.


  Ah, OK. I'll make that entry.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 23:16, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:
> >  I'll go back to the Help->Customization and see if I can find the
> > answers there.
>
>Well, reading /usr/local/share/lyx/ui/stdtoolbars.ui (and the other
> three files) leaves me more confused than enlightened. I don't see the
> references to the lib/image/action.xpm.

One example:
Toolbar "extra" "Extra"
Item "Numbered list" "layout Enumerate"
...

  The icon is called layout_Enumerate.xpm

...
Item "Set top line" "tabular-feature toggle-line-top"
...

  The icon is called tabular-feature_toggle-line-top.xpm

  The basic rule for the icon name is to use the lyx commands where the spaces 
have been replaced by an _underscore_.

>I see that menu position can be defined as top, bottom, or side. What
> controls how many lines of toolbar are present? On my 1280x1024 17" LCD
> monitor, I have two half-line toolbars. I'd like to place them on the same
> line but haven't figured out the magic to do that.

  That is the syntax:
Toolbars
"standard" "on,top"
"extra" "on,top"
"table" "off,bottom"
"math" "off,bottom"
"minibuffer" "off,bottom"
End

Each line is of the form:
"toolbar_name" "state, placement"

The first entry is the name of the toolbar.

state has three possible values: on, off or auto. auto means that only shows 
when the functions can be used.

placement is (well) the placement and can only be bottom or top.

> Thanks,
>
> Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Jose' Matos wrote:


One example:
Toolbar "extra" "Extra"
   Item "Numbered list" "layout Enumerate"
 The icon is called layout_Enumerate.xpm
   Item "Set top line" "tabular-feature toggle-line-top"
 The icon is called tabular-feature_toggle-line-top.xpm


Jose',

  I wondered if that was the case, but did not go digging to see the
filenames.


 That is the syntax:
Toolbars

  ...

placement is (well) the placement and can only be bottom or top.


  OK. I'll request some flexibility here, too.

Many thanks,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. |  Quantifying subjectivity for the
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)  |  benefit of business and society.
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Missing Converters in 1.4.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Rich" == Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Rich> What I would very much like is words rather than pictures in the
Rich> toolbar, 

That should not be too difficult.

Rich> and a way of putting them on a single line rather than two
Rich> half-lines.

This would be a bit more work I guess.

Rich>I'll go back to the Help->Customization and see if I can find
Rich> the answers there.

You won't.

JMarc