Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-19 Thread Herbert Voss

Am 19.07.21 um 12:25 schrieb Andreas Plihal:
The way the result looks now, it's just _almost _good. I want the 
register to treat umlauts like normal vowels and not replace Ä with AE 
etc.

fangfor example:

  * ...
  * analytisch
  * Änderung
  * Anfang
  * ...

In the literature this is referred to as the so-called Duden order. 
(DIN 5007, section 2).


And this is the _default_ for xindex ...

Herbert

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Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-18 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 18.07.21 um 13:54 schrieb Andreas Plihal:
I set the index processor to standard in the document settings. (There 
is still makeindex in the tools - there is no standard there. Why do 
you define that in two places ???)



It is a limitation of the current yX version that you can not choose
xindex as _program_


As a result (unfortunately) my default setting - which Jürgen 
Spitzmüller advised me some time ago - has become ineffective.
Now I get - after several indexless attempts! - finally my 
"Sachregister" again. But the sorting is completely wrong. All umlauts 
are output at the end. This does not correspond to the Duden regulations!


This is not possible with xindex, so I do not know what you are doing ...
xindex sorts by default Ö->O but with
xindex --config DIN2
it sorts with Ö->Oe

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Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-15 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

In Preferences (see the attachment) 2.3.6.2 on the Mac

el

On 15/07/2021 15:11, Andreas Plihal wrote:
[...]

To Eberhard Lisse,
how can i even add a custom one?
Greetings
Andreas

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Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-15 Thread Herbert Voss




Am 15.07.21 um 10:37 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse:

Herbert,


I am being offered makeindex, texindy and xindy.


In that case (LyX < 2.4) write into the documents preamble:

\usepackage[imakeidx]{xindex}
\makeindex


This runs xindex in the background.

Herbert

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Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-15 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 15.07.21 um 10:37 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse:

Herbert,


I am being offered makeindex, texindy and xindy.


I see, only for LyX 2.4 ...

Herbert




All,

I know I can add a custom one but does anyone know whether one of the
above two (latter) also allow German sorting?  Imust however confess
that I write next to nothing in German.

greetings, el

On 14/07/2021 17:02, Herbert Voss wrote:

Andreas Plihal schrieb:



I'm writing a KOMA book.



Please: How can I force the DUDEN sort order in the index?  So that
the umlauts ,  and  are sorted as if they were
normal vowels A, O and U.


Use the index program xindex and _not_ makeindex.
Werkzeuge->Einstellungen->Ausgabe->LaTeX

See attched images for the configuration inside LyX.

Herbert






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Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-15 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

Herbert,


I am being offered makeindex, texindy and xindy.

All,

I know I can add a custom one but does anyone know whether one of the
above two (latter) also allow German sorting?  Imust however confess
that I write next to nothing in German.

greetings, el

On 14/07/2021 17:02, Herbert Voss wrote:

Andreas Plihal schrieb:



I'm writing a KOMA book.



Please: How can I force the DUDEN sort order in the index?  So that
the umlauts ,  and  are sorted as if they were
normal vowels A, O and U.


Use the index program xindex and _not_ makeindex.
Werkzeuge->Einstellungen->Ausgabe->LaTeX

See attched images for the configuration inside LyX.

Herbert




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Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-14 Thread Herbert Voss
Andreas Plihal schrieb:
>
>
> Im writing a KOMA book.
>
>
>
> Please: How can I force the DUDEN sort order in the index? So that the
> umlauts ,  and  are sorted as if they were normal vowels
> A, O and U.

Use the index program xindex and _not_ makeindex.
Werkzeuge->Einstellungen->Ausgabe->LaTeX

See attched images for the configuration inside LyX.

Herbert

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Re: Sort order in the index

2021-07-14 Thread Joel Kulesza
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 5:11 AM Andreas Plihal  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm writing a KOMA book.
>
> Please: How can I force the DUDEN sort order in the index? So that the
> umlauts Ä, Ö and Ü are sorted as if they were normal vowels A, O and U.
>

 Please try making the index entry A@Ä, O@Ö, etc.

I do that with the default index processor and it works.  I hope this helps.

- Joel
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