Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Helge Hafting]

Luca De Marini wrote:

Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
page:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
correct?


Doable but not easy.
Start LyX, then try Help-Additional Features. There, read section 7.4
Non-standard Paragraph Shapes

Text can be typeset into any kind of paragraph shape, but you currently
have to specify the exact shape through series of line-length commands.

Now, LyX is software, so it'd be possible to extend it to find the
outline of a png, and emit all those commands automatically. But nobody 
has done that yet.


Helge Hafting

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Luca De Marini]

2010/1/6 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no

 Luca De Marini wrote:

 Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
 considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
 picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
 around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
 there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
 wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
 page:

 http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

 And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
 correct?


 Doable but not easy.
 Start LyX, then try Help-Additional Features. There, read section 7.4
 Non-standard Paragraph Shapes

 Text can be typeset into any kind of paragraph shape, but you currently
 have to specify the exact shape through series of line-length commands.

 Now, LyX is software, so it'd be possible to extend it to find the
 outline of a png, and emit all those commands automatically. But nobody has
 done that yet.


Not usable by me for now, but that's very interesting, I think this is an
important feature for many kind of works, well, it depends on what the
target should be in any case, but it's a good idea to be very flexible,
so... I think this will be code one day maybe ;)
And it will be a really nice feature because, since it's hard to do this
kind of things in LaTeX, making it automatic will surely be an important
step forward for a lot of people. I'd love this for example.
Thanks and greetings,

Luca D.M.

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Helge Hafting]

Luca De Marini wrote:

Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
page:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
correct?


Doable but not easy.
Start LyX, then try Help-Additional Features. There, read section 7.4
Non-standard Paragraph Shapes

Text can be typeset into any kind of paragraph shape, but you currently
have to specify the exact shape through series of line-length commands.

Now, LyX is software, so it'd be possible to extend it to find the
outline of a png, and emit all those commands automatically. But nobody 
has done that yet.


Helge Hafting

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Luca De Marini]

2010/1/6 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no

 Luca De Marini wrote:

 Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
 considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
 picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
 around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
 there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
 wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
 page:

 http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

 And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
 correct?


 Doable but not easy.
 Start LyX, then try Help-Additional Features. There, read section 7.4
 Non-standard Paragraph Shapes

 Text can be typeset into any kind of paragraph shape, but you currently
 have to specify the exact shape through series of line-length commands.

 Now, LyX is software, so it'd be possible to extend it to find the
 outline of a png, and emit all those commands automatically. But nobody has
 done that yet.


Not usable by me for now, but that's very interesting, I think this is an
important feature for many kind of works, well, it depends on what the
target should be in any case, but it's a good idea to be very flexible,
so... I think this will be code one day maybe ;)
And it will be a really nice feature because, since it's hard to do this
kind of things in LaTeX, making it automatic will surely be an important
step forward for a lot of people. I'd love this for example.
Thanks and greetings,

Luca D.M.

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Helge Hafting]

Luca De Marini wrote:

Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
page:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
correct?


Doable but not easy.
Start LyX, then try Help->Additional Features. There, read section 7.4
"Non-standard Paragraph Shapes"

Text can be typeset into any kind of paragraph shape, but you currently
have to specify the exact shape through series of line-length commands.

Now, LyX is software, so it'd be possible to extend it to find the
outline of a png, and emit all those commands automatically. But nobody 
has done that yet.


Helge Hafting

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Luca De Marini]

2010/1/6 Helge Hafting 

> Luca De Marini wrote:
>
>> Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
>> considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
>> picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
>> around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
>> there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
>> wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
>> page:
>>
>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions
>>
>> And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
>> correct?
>>
>
> Doable but not easy.
> Start LyX, then try Help->Additional Features. There, read section 7.4
> "Non-standard Paragraph Shapes"
>
> Text can be typeset into any kind of paragraph shape, but you currently
> have to specify the exact shape through series of line-length commands.
>
> Now, LyX is software, so it'd be possible to extend it to find the
> outline of a png, and emit all those commands automatically. But nobody has
> done that yet.
>
>
Not usable by me for now, but that's very interesting, I think this is an
important feature for many kind of works, well, it depends on what the
target should be in any case, but it's a good idea to be very flexible,
so... I think this will be code one day maybe ;)
And it will be a really nice feature because, since it's hard to do this
kind of things in LaTeX, making it automatic will surely be an important
step forward for a lot of people. I'd love this for example.
Thanks and greetings,

Luca D.M.

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Luca De Marini]

2009/11/27 Yago diazd...@ono.com

 I use normally the command \vspace*{}and I try a balance between the width
 of the figure box and the margin between this box and the wrapped text. With
 something like this:

 \begin{wrapfigure}{r}{5cm}
 \vspace{-10pt}
 \includegraphics[width=4.7cm]{figure}
 \vspace{-10pt}
 \end{wrapfigure}


Uhm, this looks interesting though I didn't understand very well: can I use
it as an eert to put into Lyx? I think this can be used instead of a
floating figure? I mean, I see {figure}, do I have to put my full path and
name of the figure inside there? In any case I'm not sure of what this is
all about. Will this make the text wrap my figure tight using real
transparency? That was what I needed.
If u think this can be done, is there a way to ert this into Lyx somehow? Or
how do you call this effect, so that I can google better about this?
Thanks,

Luca

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Luca De Marini]

2009/11/27 Yago diazd...@ono.com

 I use normally the command \vspace*{}and I try a balance between the width
 of the figure box and the margin between this box and the wrapped text. With
 something like this:

 \begin{wrapfigure}{r}{5cm}
 \vspace{-10pt}
 \includegraphics[width=4.7cm]{figure}
 \vspace{-10pt}
 \end{wrapfigure}


Uhm, this looks interesting though I didn't understand very well: can I use
it as an eert to put into Lyx? I think this can be used instead of a
floating figure? I mean, I see {figure}, do I have to put my full path and
name of the figure inside there? In any case I'm not sure of what this is
all about. Will this make the text wrap my figure tight using real
transparency? That was what I needed.
If u think this can be done, is there a way to ert this into Lyx somehow? Or
how do you call this effect, so that I can google better about this?
Thanks,

Luca

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Luca De Marini]

2009/11/27 Yago 

> I use normally the command \vspace*{}and I try a balance between the width
> of the figure box and the margin between this box and the wrapped text. With
> something like this:
>
> \begin{wrapfigure}{r}{5cm}
> \vspace{-10pt}
> \includegraphics[width=4.7cm]{figure}
> \vspace{-10pt}
> \end{wrapfigure}
>
>
Uhm, this looks interesting though I didn't understand very well: can I use
it as an eert to put into Lyx? I think this can be used instead of a
floating figure? I mean, I see {figure}, do I have to put my full path and
name of the figure inside there? In any case I'm not sure of what this is
all about. Will this make the text wrap my figure tight using real
transparency? That was what I needed.
If u think this can be done, is there a way to ert this into Lyx somehow? Or
how do you call this effect, so that I can google better about this?
Thanks,

Luca

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Yago]

I use normally the command \vspace*{}and I try a balance between the width 
of the figure box and the margin between this box and the wrapped text. With 
something like this:


\begin{wrapfigure}{r}{5cm}
\vspace{-10pt}
\includegraphics[width=4.7cm]{figure}
\vspace{-10pt}
\end{wrapfigure}

You can change the values to deal with that you need.
- Original Message - 
From: Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com

To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture



Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
page:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
correct?
i'm looking for something like this, in the following page of abiword: 
Tight

Image Wrapping
*
*
*http://www.abisource.com/release-notes/2.4.0.phtml*
*
*
*I'm not trying to do this:*
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Latex_example_wrapfig_vspace.png
I already know how to do it but that's not what I'm seeking ;)
Greetings,

Luca

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Yago]

I use normally the command \vspace*{}and I try a balance between the width 
of the figure box and the margin between this box and the wrapped text. With 
something like this:


\begin{wrapfigure}{r}{5cm}
\vspace{-10pt}
\includegraphics[width=4.7cm]{figure}
\vspace{-10pt}
\end{wrapfigure}

You can change the values to deal with that you need.
- Original Message - 
From: Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com

To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture



Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
page:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
correct?
i'm looking for something like this, in the following page of abiword: 
Tight

Image Wrapping
*
*
*http://www.abisource.com/release-notes/2.4.0.phtml*
*
*
*I'm not trying to do this:*
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Latex_example_wrapfig_vspace.png
I already know how to do it but that's not what I'm seeking ;)
Greetings,

Luca

Re: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture

[Yago]

I use normally the command \vspace*{}and I try a balance between the width 
of the figure box and the margin between this box and the wrapped text. With 
something like this:


\begin{wrapfigure}{r}{5cm}
\vspace{-10pt}
\includegraphics[width=4.7cm]{figure}
\vspace{-10pt}
\end{wrapfigure}

You can change the values to deal with that you need.
- Original Message - 
From: "Luca De Marini" 

To: "LyX Users List" 
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: Wrapping text REALLY around a picture



Hallo list, I'd like to understand a fast thing I never considered but am
considering now: is it possible in Lyx or Latex to wrap text around a
picture for real? I mean, in lyx I can do something like that to wrap text
around a picture but, in reality, I wrap it around a square into which
there's the picture. What if I have a transparent PNG and want the text to
wrap REALLY around the picture considering transparency? Looking at this
page:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions

And studying it, sounds to me it's impossible to achieve such a goal, am I
correct?
i'm looking for something like this, in the following page of abiword: 
"Tight

Image Wrapping"
*
*
*http://www.abisource.com/release-notes/2.4.0.phtml*
*
*
*I'm not trying to do this:*
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Latex_example_wrapfig_vspace.png
I already know how to do it but that's not what I'm seeking ;)
Greetings,

Luca