Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-29 Thread Tom Wilson
Usually, you will make your own cable. Look up the pin out for your radio’s connectors. Most mobiles have a TNC connector on the back, a mini DIN that looks a lot like a PS/2 connector. For radios without a TNC connector, you have to be creative. It usually involves an interface box like a

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-28 Thread Alex ...
Sure, I'll give it a shot. To connect the TNC to the Model T, you'll need a cable with two DB-25 male connectors, or the right adaptors and dongles to get an equivalent. In my setup I have a DB25 male to DE-9 female cable on the T102, then a DE-9 gender bender, and another DE-9 female to DB-25

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-28 Thread Jeff Gonzales
Alex, Can you help me with a similar setup? I think I found a TNC like yours in the garage. Where do I get a cable for the radio? What radio are you using? Can I use a cheap Baofeng for this or do I need an HF radio? Thanks, Jeff On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:54 AM Alex ... wrote: > Figure

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-22 Thread Doug Jackson
Around the same ear I had my mobile packet rig setup - A 73 Toyota Corolla with a Yaesu Memoriser, and TAPR TNC2, and a Model 100. I remember leaning over at the traffic lights one afternoon, typing "Not now Kevin, I'm driving" Those were the days before people had mobile phones and we could

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-21 Thread Mike Eppler
I ran a packet station on the Iditarod Race start line in 1987. the equipment was a Yaesu FT221R transceiver a MFJ 1270 TNC and a Model 100. We were the backup for the starting timer. Great Fun and a Little cold. The rig was a red Toyota Land Cruiser, and we parked on Knik Lake. 73's to all

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-19 Thread Alex ...
Douglas, You make a very good point. I'd never even considered that the UART might get in the way. After a look over the datasheets for the chip, there doesn't seem to be any way to disable the stop bit functionality and turn it into a dumb shift register. Now I'm wondering if the old modem chip

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-18 Thread Jeff Gonzales
All of what you guys are doing is really rad! I bought a bunch of old packet stuff a few years back hoping to connect it up with my m100. Never got around to it. It would be great to get some guidance on that. On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:35 AM Brad Grier wrote: > Re: 8201a docs etc -- this is

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-18 Thread Brad Grier
Re: 8201a docs etc -- this is a helpful site. Not sure if it has exactly what you're looking for. https://www.web8201.net/default.asp?content=tech.asp --Brad On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:19 PM Douglas Quagliana wrote: > >How much of the 8085's time will be left to do anything useful at all >

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-17 Thread Doug Jackson
In the mid 80's the CPU utilisation was the primary reason why everybody used intelligent Packet Radio TNC's. Nowadays, there are groups of people who use AtMega368 chips to do that function. Small, cheap, easy to source. http://www.mobilinkd.com/2014/09/11/arduino-kiss-tnc/ Kindest regards,

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-17 Thread Douglas Quagliana
>How much of the 8085's time will be left to do anything useful at all with the data with it essentially bit-banging the waveforms like that? Probably not much CPU time will be left while receiving. But packet radio is half-duplex on HF and VHF. If you are connecting to a packet radio BBS or

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-16 Thread Alex ...
How much of the 8085's time will be left to do anything useful at all with the data with it essentially bit-banging the waveforms like that? On HF, packet radio is 300 baud using Bell 103 tones already. I've done some reading over the schematics and it looks like the onboard modem can be put into

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-15 Thread Douglas Quagliana
All, I haven't tried the Bell 103 modem, but the cassette port is (in theory) fast enough to see 1200 baud AFSK. The cassette port is supposed to run at 1500 baud. To receive AX.25 packet you would need to count the time between zero crossing similar to the way the cassette port does it now,

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-15 Thread Daryl Tester
On 15/4/21 7:39 pm, Doug Jackson wrote: From memory the SCC could help out with the encoding which was something like HDLC or SDLC..  that's rattling my brain cells though. That's right, the ZSCC handles H/SDLC natively. I'd used it on a prior work project that required that, so was intimate

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-15 Thread Doug Jackson
>From memory the SCC could help out with the encoding which was something like HDLC or SDLC.. that's rattling my brain cells though. I remember that the Tnc2 had a state machine to do that. Doug On Thu, 15 Apr 2021, 8:05 pm Alex ..., wrote: > What would the Zilog SCC have gotten you? A

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-15 Thread Alex ...
What would the Zilog SCC have gotten you? A couple extra serial ports for additional modems? On Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 23:41 Daryl Tester < dt-m...@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote: > On 15/4/21 1:23 am, Alex ... wrote: > > > Figure this would be a fun one to share with the [M100] list. :) > >

Re: [M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-14 Thread Daryl Tester
On 15/4/21 1:23 am, Alex ... wrote: Figure this would be a fun one to share with the [M100] list. :) Sometime last century (if not millenium) I attempted to build an add on card for my M102 to run a Zilog SCC chip for the purposes of packet radio. I only remembered this because I came across

[M100] Packet radio like it's 1987

2021-04-14 Thread Alex ...
Figure this would be a fun one to share with the [M100] list. :) I recently bought a big box of random ham radio packet gear which included a bunch of old TNC modems and assorted cables. Unfortunately, it turns out the quad serial port card in my desktop PC is dead. Enter the Tandy 102 to the