Re: [M100] Files XFER

[George Rimakis]

Kevin - I’m glad you like it!

David - In my experience, the cheapest USB-Serial adaptor worth buying is the 
TrippLite Keyspan adaptor. There are more expensive ones, but this one has 
worked perfectly for me, on Mac, Windows, etc.

The cheapo adaptors with the prolific chipsets are horrible. I made my mistake 
the hard way when I lost some Nintendo 64 game-saves while trying to back them 
up to PC.

~George

> On May 9, 2018, at 11:00 PM, David Laffineuse  wrote:
> 
> Actually replaced with another adapter.
> The prior one worked all evening last night, just no longer worked today.
> 
>> On May 09, 2018, at 10:53 PM, "John R. Hogerhuis"  wrote:
>> 
> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:50 PM David Laffineuse  
>>> wrote:
>>> Weird, I replaced my USB to Serial adapter and now it works again... could 
>>> the adapter have gone bad?  Puzzled...
>> 
>> Replaced? You means plugged and unplugged or got another of the same kind 
>> from the store?
>> 
>> There are two main chipsets, FTDI and Prolific. They can differ on that. 
>> 
>> And I’ve had flow control pins die on some. Possible so bad designs on the 
>> interface / susceptibility to ESD. 
>> 
>> — John. 

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:00 PM David Laffineuse 
wrote:

> Actually replaced with another adapter.
> The prior one worked all evening last night, just no longer worked today.
>
>
Plugging and unplugging can help too because it can reset a buggy driver.

Any idea what chipset? If you go to control panel and inspect the driver
you should be able to tell what chipset it uses

If you report the VID and PID I can figure it out.

— John

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[David Laffineuse]

Actually replaced with another adapter.
The prior one worked all evening last night, just no longer worked today.

On May 09, 2018, at 10:53 PM, "John R. Hogerhuis"  wrote:


On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:50 PM David Laffineuse  wrote:
Weird, I replaced my USB to Serial adapter and now it works again... could the 
adapter have gone bad?  Puzzled...

Replaced? You means plugged and unplugged or got another of the same kind from 
the store?

There are two main chipsets, FTDI and Prolific. They can differ on that. 

And I’ve had flow control pins die on some. Possible so bad designs on the 
interface / susceptibility to ESD. 

— John. 

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:50 PM David Laffineuse 
wrote:

> Weird, I replaced my USB to Serial adapter and now it works again... could
> the adapter have gone bad?  Puzzled...
>

Replaced? You means plugged and unplugged or got another of the same kind
from the store?

There are two main chipsets, FTDI and Prolific. They can differ on that.

And I’ve had flow control pins die on some. Possible so bad designs on the
interface / susceptibility to ESD.

— John.

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[David Laffineuse]

Weird, I replaced my USB to Serial adapter and now it works again... could the 
adapter have gone bad?  Puzzled...

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2018, at 10:18 PM, David Laffineuse  wrote:
> 
> So yesterday I was able to do all this (see below) without any problems and 
> today, without changing anything to the setup, TS-DOS keeps giving me 
> communication errors when trying to connect to the PC.  I have rebootrd the 
> PC, changed USB ports, reset the M100 countless times and nothing works...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2018, at 12:03 AM, David Laffineuse  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Jim,
>> 
>> Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have now 
>> been able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via mComm!  
>> My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable programs 
>> (games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?
>> 
>> Thanks again!!
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
>> 
 -Original Message-
 
 So here is where I am so far:
>>> 
>>> You've made great progress!
>>> 
 - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
 once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
 .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though
>>> 
>>> There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of 
>>> information you need to know.
>>> 
>>> Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a BASIC 
>>> program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the M100, 
>>> a .BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution 
>>> time). If you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going 
>>> to try to interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what 
>>> happens. :(
>>> 
>>> The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a plain 
>>> text program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you transfer it 
>>> into the M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and type:
>>> 
>>> LOAD "PROG.DO"
>>> 
>>> This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big program 
>>> it might take a while.) When it's done, type:
>>> 
>>> SAVE "PROG.BA"
>>> 
>>> This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You can 
>>> now delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA file 
>>> back to the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.
>>> 
>>> Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing them 
>>> on a PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will be a 
>>> PROG.BA which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the 
>>> instruction manual. What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD 
>>> (Basic-DO is I guess what I was thinking there) and then copy back PROG.BA 
>>> from the M100 to save the tokenized version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   jim

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:18 PM David Laffineuse 
wrote:

> So yesterday I was able to do all this (see below) without any problems
> and today, without changing anything to the setup, TS-DOS keeps giving me
> communication errors when trying to connect to the PC.  I have rebootrd the
> PC, changed USB ports, reset the M100 countless times and nothing works...
>

You could also try loading TEENY. It does not do timeouts so you could
narrow the issue down that way.

Tsdos does a cable check on dsr. So does teeny, but if you inject teeny
with teeny.exe you can disable the cable check.


— John

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Kevin Becker]

This is a really nice port of minesweeper.  I'm definitely adding it to my
REX Games image

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:08 AM, George Michael Rimakis 
wrote:

> Sorry about that. Last month I changed web-hosts, and it looks like some
> files weren't migrated. I've fixed it now.
>
> Best,
> George
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Kevin Becker 
> wrote:
>
>> Starblaze is a pretty good Defender-style game. You can find it in the
>> Club 100 member files.
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:03 AM, David Laffineuse > > wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have
>>> now been able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via
>>> mComm!
>>> My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable
>>> programs (games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?
>>>
>>> Thanks again!!
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>>
>>>
>>> So here is where I am so far:
>>>
>>>
>>> You've made great progress!
>>>
>>> - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
>>>
>>> once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
>>>
>>> .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though
>>>
>>>
>>> There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of
>>> information you need to know.
>>>
>>> Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a
>>> BASIC program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the
>>> M100, a .BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution
>>> time). If you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going
>>> to try to interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what
>>> happens. :(
>>>
>>> The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a
>>> plain text program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you
>>> transfer it into the M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and
>>> type:
>>>
>>> LOAD "PROG.DO"
>>>
>>> This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big
>>> program it might take a while.) When it's done, type:
>>>
>>> SAVE "PROG.BA"
>>>
>>> This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You
>>> can now delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA
>>> file back to the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.
>>>
>>> Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing
>>> them on a PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will
>>> be a PROG.BA which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is
>>> the instruction manual. What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to
>>> PROG.BD (Basic-DO is I guess what I was thinking there) and then copy
>>> back PROG.BA from the M100 to save the tokenized version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>jim
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[David Laffineuse]

So yesterday I was able to do all this (see below) without any problems and 
today, without changing anything to the setup, TS-DOS keeps giving me 
communication errors when trying to connect to the PC.  I have rebootrd the PC, 
changed USB ports, reset the M100 countless times and nothing works...

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2018, at 12:03 AM, David Laffineuse  
> wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have now 
> been able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via mComm!  
> My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable programs 
> (games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?
> 
> Thanks again!!
> 
> David
> 
> 
> On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>> So here is where I am so far:
>> 
>> You've made great progress!
>> 
>>> - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
>>> once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
>>> .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though
>> 
>> There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of 
>> information you need to know.
>> 
>> Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a BASIC 
>> program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the M100, 
>> a .BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution time). 
>> If you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going to try 
>> to interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what happens. 
>> :(
>> 
>> The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a plain 
>> text program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you transfer it 
>> into the M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and type:
>> 
>> LOAD "PROG.DO"
>> 
>> This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big program 
>> it might take a while.) When it's done, type:
>> 
>> SAVE "PROG.BA"
>> 
>> This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You can 
>> now delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA file 
>> back to the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.
>> 
>> Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing them 
>> on a PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will be a 
>> PROG.BA which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the 
>> instruction manual. What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD 
>> (Basic-DO is I guess what I was thinking there) and then copy back PROG.BA 
>> from the M100 to save the tokenized version.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>jim

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[George Michael Rimakis]

Sorry about that. Last month I changed web-hosts, and it looks like some
files weren't migrated. I've fixed it now.

Best,
George

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Kevin Becker  wrote:

> Starblaze is a pretty good Defender-style game. You can find it in the
> Club 100 member files.
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:03 AM, David Laffineuse 
> wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have
>> now been able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via
>> mComm!
>> My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable
>> programs (games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?
>>
>> Thanks again!!
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>>
>> So here is where I am so far:
>>
>>
>> You've made great progress!
>>
>> - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
>>
>> once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
>>
>> .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though
>>
>>
>> There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of
>> information you need to know.
>>
>> Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a
>> BASIC program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the
>> M100, a .BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution
>> time). If you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going
>> to try to interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what
>> happens. :(
>>
>> The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a
>> plain text program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you
>> transfer it into the M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and
>> type:
>>
>> LOAD "PROG.DO"
>>
>> This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big
>> program it might take a while.) When it's done, type:
>>
>> SAVE "PROG.BA"
>>
>> This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You
>> can now delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA
>> file back to the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.
>>
>> Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing
>> them on a PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will
>> be a PROG.BA which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the
>> instruction manual. What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD
>> (Basic-DO is I guess what I was thinking there) and then copy back
>> PROG.BA from the M100 to save the tokenized version.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>jim
>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Kevin Becker]

Starblaze is a pretty good Defender-style game. You can find it in the Club
100 member files.

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:03 AM, David Laffineuse 
wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have now
> been able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via mComm!
> My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable programs
> (games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?
>
> Thanks again!!
>
> David
>
>
> On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
>
>
> So here is where I am so far:
>
>
> You've made great progress!
>
> - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
>
> once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
>
> .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though
>
>
> There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of
> information you need to know.
>
> Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a
> BASIC program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the
> M100, a .BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution
> time). If you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going
> to try to interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what
> happens. :(
>
> The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a plain
> text program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you transfer it
> into the M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and type:
>
> LOAD "PROG.DO"
>
> This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big program
> it might take a while.) When it's done, type:
>
> SAVE "PROG.BA"
>
> This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You can
> now delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA file
> back to the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.
>
> Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing them
> on a PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will be a
> PROG.BA which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the
> instruction manual. What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD
> (Basic-DO is I guess what I was thinking there) and then copy back PROG.BA
> from the M100 to save the tokenized version.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>jim
>
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Kevin Becker]

Your webpage is giving a 404 error trying to download the game

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:34 AM, George Michael Rimakis 
wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> I will recommend my own game, Text Sweeper, which is a clone of
> Minesweeper.
>
> http://www.georgerimakis.com/tsweep.html
>
> Best,
> George
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:03 AM, David Laffineuse 
> wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have
>> now been able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via
>> mComm!
>> My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable
>> programs (games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?
>>
>> Thanks again!!
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>>
>> So here is where I am so far:
>>
>>
>> You've made great progress!
>>
>> - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
>>
>> once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
>>
>> .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though
>>
>>
>> There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of
>> information you need to know.
>>
>> Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a
>> BASIC program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the
>> M100, a .BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution
>> time). If you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going
>> to try to interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what
>> happens. :(
>>
>> The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a
>> plain text program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you
>> transfer it into the M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and
>> type:
>>
>> LOAD "PROG.DO"
>>
>> This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big
>> program it might take a while.) When it's done, type:
>>
>> SAVE "PROG.BA"
>>
>> This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You
>> can now delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA
>> file back to the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.
>>
>> Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing
>> them on a PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will
>> be a PROG.BA which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the
>> instruction manual. What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD
>> (Basic-DO is I guess what I was thinking there) and then copy back
>> PROG.BA from the M100 to save the tokenized version.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>jim
>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[George Michael Rimakis]

Hi David,

I will recommend my own game, Text Sweeper, which is a clone of Minesweeper.

http://www.georgerimakis.com/tsweep.html

Best,
George

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:03 AM, David Laffineuse 
wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have now
> been able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via mComm!
> My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable programs
> (games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?
>
> Thanks again!!
>
> David
>
>
> On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
>
>
> So here is where I am so far:
>
>
> You've made great progress!
>
> - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
>
> once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
>
> .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though
>
>
> There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of
> information you need to know.
>
> Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a
> BASIC program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the
> M100, a .BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution
> time). If you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going
> to try to interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what
> happens. :(
>
> The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a plain
> text program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you transfer it
> into the M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and type:
>
> LOAD "PROG.DO"
>
> This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big program
> it might take a while.) When it's done, type:
>
> SAVE "PROG.BA"
>
> This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You can
> now delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA file
> back to the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.
>
> Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing them
> on a PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will be a
> PROG.BA which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the
> instruction manual. What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD
> (Basic-DO is I guess what I was thinking there) and then copy back PROG.BA
> from the M100 to save the tokenized version.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>jim
>
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[David Laffineuse]

Jim,

Thank you!  Your guidance helped me over the last few hurdles.  I have now been 
able to successfully load and run .BA files from the PC via mComm!  
My next question is naturally: what are some of the indispensable programs 
(games, utilities, etc.) that everyone should have on their M100?

Thanks again!!

David


On May 08, 2018, at 07:00 PM, Jim Anderson  wrote:

-Original Message-

So here is where I am so far:

You've made great progress!

- Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
.BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though

There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of 
information you need to know.

Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a BASIC 
program which you can view in Notepad etc. The problem is that on the M100, a 
.BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution time). If 
you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going to try to 
interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what happens. :(

The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a plain text 
program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you transfer it into the 
M100. Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and type:

LOAD "PROG.DO"

This will load the program and tokenize it for you. (If it's a big program it 
might take a while.) When it's done, type:

SAVE "PROG.BA"

This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory. You can now 
delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA file back to 
the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.

Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing them on a 
PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will be a PROG.BA 
which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the instruction manual. 
What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD (Basic-DO is I guess what I 
was thinking there) and then copy back PROG.BA from the M100 to save the 
tokenized version.







   jim

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Jim Anderson]

> -Original Message-
> 
> So here is where I am so far:

You've made great progress!

> - Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files,
> once in RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some
> .BA files, I only get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though

There's a bit of a trick here - well, not a 'trick' so much as a bit of 
information you need to know.

Often when you find a .BA file online, it's a plain-text listing of a BASIC 
program which you can view in Notepad etc.  The problem is that on the M100, a 
.BA file is a tokenized binary (to save space and improve execution time).  If 
you transfer a text BASIC listing as a .BA file the M100 is going to try to 
interpret it as a tokenized binary file and, well, you saw what happens.  :(

The trick is to have a look at the .BA file on the PC, and if it's a plain text 
program listing, rename it to a .DO extension before you transfer it into the 
M100.  Then, when it's on the M100, go into BASIC and type:

LOAD "PROG.DO"

This will load the program and tokenize it for you.  (If it's a big program it 
might take a while.)  When it's done, type:

SAVE "PROG.BA"

This will save the tokenized .BA file back into the M100's memory.  You can now 
delete the .DO file from the M100, and you can transfer the .BA file back to 
the PC and keep it to save this step in the future.

Some people adopt different naming conventions for these when storing them on a 
PC - often a program will have a document with it, so there will be a PROG.BA 
which is the plain text listing, and a PROG.DO which is the instruction manual. 
 What I personally do is rename PROG.BA to PROG.BD (Basic-DO is I guess what I 
was thinking there) and then copy back PROG.BA from the M100 to save the 
tokenized version.







jim

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[David Laffineuse]

So here is where I am so far:
- successfully installed mComm on the PC and able to establish bidirectional 
communication with the Model 100 over the null modem cable/USB-to-Serial 
adapter (COM3 on PC).
- via TELCOM, successfully running the mComm Virtual Modem (able to access BBS, 
etc.).  Although according to the mComm documentation, I should see something 
similar to the TS-DOS screen.
- Via REX's TS-DOS ROM, able to view the content of the mComm/Data folder on 
the PC (disk view)
- Able to save files from the M100's RAM into the mComm/Data folder on the PC 
(i.e. sending)
- Able to download files from mComm/data into RAM... BUT those files, once in 
RAM seem to be corrupter.  For instance when downloading some .BA files, I only 
get a few lines of code or no code at all, even though mComm reports that the 
transfer is completed.  Likewise the M100 has crashed several times when trying 
to open .DO files that had been downloaded from mComm.  The only way to 
resurrect the M100 after such crashes was the CTRL-Break/Pause-RESET combo.

So I am getting closer to being able to download files for the M100 but I am 
not quite there yet.

David

On May 08, 2018, at 04:43 PM, Josh Malone  wrote:

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Lee Olivares  wrote:
David, you're not alone in the confusion, I encourage you to document your
process going from zero to loaded program for others.

Basically you start by transferring a "DOS" to the M100, which can then talk
to the "Disk Servers" mentioned, bear in mind we're using DOS in a literal
sense, the M100 has no concept of operating a Disk Drive without a Disk
Operating System loaded.

Inject TS-DOS via mComm

http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?direction=1=mod=Kurt%20McCullum

This involves

* start BASIC
* RUN "COM:98N1E"
* Start sending TS-DOS from mComm
* Follow on-screen instructions

You now have TS-DOS.BA in the menu.

* Start TS-DOS.BA from menu
* Enter "Disk" screen in TS-DOS
* Load .CO programs from mComm's configured TPDD folder

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Josh Malone]

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Lee Olivares  wrote:
> David, you're not alone in the confusion, I encourage you to document your
> process going from zero to loaded program for others.
>
> Basically you start by transferring a "DOS" to the M100, which can then talk
> to the "Disk Servers" mentioned, bear in mind we're using DOS in a literal
> sense, the M100 has no concept of operating a Disk Drive without a Disk
> Operating System loaded.

Inject TS-DOS via mComm

http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?direction=1=mod=Kurt%20McCullum

This involves

 * start BASIC
 * RUN "COM:98N1E"
 * Start sending TS-DOS from mComm
 * Follow on-screen instructions

You now have TS-DOS.BA in the menu.

 * Start TS-DOS.BA from menu
 * Enter "Disk" screen in TS-DOS
 * Load .CO programs from mComm's configured TPDD folder

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Lee Olivares]

David, you're not alone in the confusion, I encourage you to document your
process going from zero to loaded program for others.

Basically you start by transferring a "DOS" to the M100, which can then
talk to the "Disk Servers" mentioned, bear in mind we're using DOS in a
literal sense, the M100 has no concept of operating a Disk Drive without a
Disk Operating System loaded.

Getting DOS loaded involves copying a DO file via hyper terminal/TELCOM
(you can't directly transfer CO files via TELCOM), which can then load the
DOS, I'm obviously paraphrasing but hopefully you see where I'm going.

   1. Transfer DOS "loader" DO file via serial terminal on PC and TELCOM on
   M100.
   2. Run the DOS "loader" to load DOS .CO on the M100.
   3. Run Disk Server on PC.
   4. Run DOS on M100 to access Disk Server.

Process is different when you can load DOS from ROM/REX, but I'm not that
cool.

(Laddie Alpha can inject TEENY DOS right? Or is it DLPlus?)


 - Lee
 - 909.437.0250
 - Destroying technology problems.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:21 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> Your REX has TSDOS option rom, or you can add it. It is a disk client.
>
> You need to use it with a disk service. LaddieAlpha, mcomm, DLPlus,
> nadsbox (rare), a real Tandy Portable Disk Drive are some disk services you
> can pick from.
>
> — John.
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Diggy Dude]

Has anyone tried modifying an M100 ZMODEM program to remove the modem code
and make it a straight-up serial transfer program? I suspect using such a
program in conjunction with a BBS terminal like SyncTERM on the Windows end
would be a cheap and easy way to transfer binary files to the M100.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 2:21 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> Your REX has TSDOS option rom, or you can add it. It is a disk client.
>
> You need to use it with a disk service. LaddieAlpha, mcomm, DLPlus,
> nadsbox (rare), a real Tandy Portable Disk Drive are some disk services you
> can pick from.
>
> — John.
>

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Your REX has TSDOS option rom, or you can add it. It is a disk client.

You need to use it with a disk service. LaddieAlpha, mcomm, DLPlus, nadsbox
(rare), a real Tandy Portable Disk Drive are some disk services you can
pick from.

— John.

Re: [M100] Files XFER

[Fugu ME100]

One option is to run Mcomm on the PC to act as a TPDD Server and use the
null modem cable to connect the PC and M100.
http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?===Kurt
%20McCullum

Mcomm can inject RAM TS-DOS or with the REX you can use that OPT ROM
version.  This should allow you to read and write files to the M100 from
the PC.  The club100 site http://www.club100.org/ has quite a lot of
programs (See: The BBS Libraries dating back to 1983) to explore either
BASIC or ML, these can all be copied to the Mcomm folder for loading onto
the M100.  There is also a section on
http://www.club100.org/library/howto00.html how to use the BA - DO trick.

In addition there is an Mcomm version that can run on Android if you
prefer to use that solution.


On 7/5/18, 10:52 PM, "M100 on behalf of David Laffineuse"

wrote:

>So I am sure that this question has been asked 1000 times but I still
>cannot find a simple and satisfactory answer in the archives.  It is
>about file transfer.  Now I can do text file transfers between a 64-bit
>PC and the M100 via HyperTerminal and a null modem cable.  That works
>well.   But now, how do I get programs/applications onto the M100?  Where
>do I find those programs, how do I setup the PC and M100 to transfer them
>for the PC to the M100, how does all that work?  If that helps I just
>received REX.  Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone

[M100] Files XFER

[David Laffineuse]

So I am sure that this question has been asked 1000 times but I still cannot 
find a simple and satisfactory answer in the archives.  It is about file 
transfer.  Now I can do text file transfers between a 64-bit PC and the M100 
via HyperTerminal and a null modem cable.  That works well.   But now, how do I 
get programs/applications onto the M100?  Where do I find those programs, how 
do I setup the PC and M100 to transfer them for the PC to the M100, how does 
all that work?  If that helps I just received REX.  Thanks in advance for your 
help!


Sent from my iPhone