Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Lee Kelley]

I just pulled it up on firefox and it comes up like it is fine with the
display showing the normal menu but with no keyboard.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:

> On my windows 10 asus tablet it's not working.
> The screen is blank and the keys have a partial graphic of {shi{{ on each
> key. I'm also using MS Edge for the browser at this time.
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:56 AM, James  wrote:
>
>> Just got back from a camping trip over the weekend and I saw this email.
>> I'm sat thinking, CloudT what the heck? Has some boffin got their M100
>> saving files to the cloud? Now THATS dedication! lol
>>
>> Nope someone has got the M100 working on their iPad / Droid tablet *face
>> palm* Where the heck will I connect my TPDD2? Hmm? :-P
>>
>> This is a very cool project, fantastic for anyone who doesn't own a real
>> one. Think my iPad will be getting some M100 treatment later.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/08/16 15:40, Josh Malone wrote:
>>
>>> I get about 0.8-0.9 on my Galaxy S4 - sometimes hits 1Mhz.
>>>
>>> I'm using a swype keyboard. I'll hafta try a different keyboard at some
>>> point.
>>>
>>> -Josh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:51 AM, John R. Hogerhuis >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Willard Goosey >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, that's quite a compliment!
>>>
>>> My tablet runs CloudT at about .9 MHz according to the
>>> display, so if you don't have a faster android, ROG is gonna
>>> be rather slow beyond level 5 or so... OTOH the only place ROG
>>> even approaches "bare metal" is up at the top where it PEEK()s
>>> the system clock.
>>>
>>> Willard
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. It gets up to  5 or 6 MHz in turbo mode on iPhone.
>>>
>>> I have some speed optimizations I could still try.
>>>
>>> On android though, since emulators are allowed in the store I may
>>> make the core run native rather than in JavaScript to get more
>>> speed. It would also let me integrate the keyboard better.
>>>
>>> -- John.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
> family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>



-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Lee Kelley]

On my windows 10 asus tablet it's not working.
The screen is blank and the keys have a partial graphic of {shi{{ on each
key. I'm also using MS Edge for the browser at this time.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:56 AM, James  wrote:

> Just got back from a camping trip over the weekend and I saw this email.
> I'm sat thinking, CloudT what the heck? Has some boffin got their M100
> saving files to the cloud? Now THATS dedication! lol
>
> Nope someone has got the M100 working on their iPad / Droid tablet *face
> palm* Where the heck will I connect my TPDD2? Hmm? :-P
>
> This is a very cool project, fantastic for anyone who doesn't own a real
> one. Think my iPad will be getting some M100 treatment later.
>
> -James
>
>
>
> On 29/08/16 15:40, Josh Malone wrote:
>
>> I get about 0.8-0.9 on my Galaxy S4 - sometimes hits 1Mhz.
>>
>> I'm using a swype keyboard. I'll hafta try a different keyboard at some
>> point.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:51 AM, John R. Hogerhuis > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Willard Goosey > > wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that's quite a compliment!
>>
>> My tablet runs CloudT at about .9 MHz according to the
>> display, so if you don't have a faster android, ROG is gonna
>> be rather slow beyond level 5 or so... OTOH the only place ROG
>> even approaches "bare metal" is up at the top where it PEEK()s
>> the system clock.
>>
>> Willard
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>
>>
>> Yeah. It gets up to  5 or 6 MHz in turbo mode on iPhone.
>>
>> I have some speed optimizations I could still try.
>>
>> On android though, since emulators are allowed in the store I may
>> make the core run native rather than in JavaScript to get more
>> speed. It would also let me integrate the keyboard better.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Josh Malone]

I get about 0.8-0.9 on my Galaxy S4 - sometimes hits 1Mhz.

I'm using a swype keyboard. I'll hafta try a different keyboard at some
point.

-Josh

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:51 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Willard Goosey  wrote:
>
>> Wow, that's quite a compliment!
>>
>> My tablet runs CloudT at about .9 MHz according to the display, so if you
>> don't have a faster android, ROG is gonna be rather slow beyond level 5 or
>> so... OTOH the only place ROG even approaches "bare metal" is up at the top
>> where it PEEK()s the system clock.
>>
>> Willard
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>
>>
> Yeah. It gets up to  5 or 6 MHz in turbo mode on iPhone.
>
> I have some speed optimizations I could still try.
>
> On android though, since emulators are allowed in the store I may make the
> core run native rather than in JavaScript to get more speed. It would also
> let me integrate the keyboard better.
>
> -- John.
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Willard Goosey  wrote:

> Wow, that's quite a compliment!
>
> My tablet runs CloudT at about .9 MHz according to the display, so if you
> don't have a faster android, ROG is gonna be rather slow beyond level 5 or
> so... OTOH the only place ROG even approaches "bare metal" is up at the top
> where it PEEK()s the system clock.
>
> Willard
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>
Yeah. It gets up to  5 or 6 MHz in turbo mode on iPhone.

I have some speed optimizations I could still try.

On android though, since emulators are allowed in the store I may make the
core run native rather than in JavaScript to get more speed. It would also
let me integrate the keyboard better.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Willard Goosey]

Wow, that's quite a compliment!

My tablet runs CloudT at about .9 MHz according to the display, so if you don't 
have a faster android, ROG is gonna be rather slow beyond level 5 or so... OTOH 
the only place ROG even approaches "bare metal" is up at the top where it 
PEEK()s the system clock.

Willard

Sent from Samsung tablet

 Original message 
From "John R. Hogerhuis" <jho...@pobox.com> 
Date: 08/28/2016  12:43 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To Model 100 Discussion <m100@lists.bitchin100.com> 
Subject Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL) 
 
Thanks!

In fact getting ROG to run was one of my first milestones, so thanks for that 
:-)

I need to go back and make sure ROG is workable on mobile devices. Might be 
problematic on the iPhone since the virtual keyboard would be coming and going 
a lot. 

On android I have a keyboard installed that has a lot more keys (arrow keys, 
control and shift keys etc). 

-- John.

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[John R. Hogerhuis]

CloudT on Samsung Galaxy note 10.1
CloudT-note.jpg

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Gregory McGill]

very nice!

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 6:07 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Josh Malone  wrote:
>
>> Very cool. Works great on my old pc in Firefox. However, my android phone
>> really has a tough time with it in chrome. No backspace, and the
>> autocorrect really messes with things, especially capitalization. Might not
>> be anything you can do about it if you can't get keyboard events. :-(
>>
>> Still very cool.
>>
>
> Thanks. Hmm. Maybe try "hacker's keyboard" that's what works on my galaxy
> note 10.1. Backspace works and it doesn't do the predictive text.
>
> What android device and keyboard?
>
> How about speed? My Samsung can't quit get to native speed. Where my
> iPhone and kids iPad does.
>
> I'll try with my tablet's built in keyboard to see if I can repro the
> issue.
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Josh Malone  wrote:

> Very cool. Works great on my old pc in Firefox. However, my android phone
> really has a tough time with it in chrome. No backspace, and the
> autocorrect really messes with things, especially capitalization. Might not
> be anything you can do about it if you can't get keyboard events. :-(
>
> Still very cool.
>

Thanks. Hmm. Maybe try "hacker's keyboard" that's what works on my galaxy
note 10.1. Backspace works and it doesn't do the predictive text.

What android device and keyboard?

How about speed? My Samsung can't quit get to native speed. Where my iPhone
and kids iPad does.

I'll try with my tablet's built in keyboard to see if I can repro the
issue.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Mark J. Blair  wrote:

> It passes my Standard BASIC Test. Hooray!
>
>
Cool :-)

Music that goes through the SOUND command should work.

You can try this file:

Add URL
Paste this in place of the full URL

ftp://ftp.whtech.com/club100/mus/star1.ba

You should see STAR1.BA file pop up in list at bottom of screen

Go into BASIC and type CLOAD
Run

If you're on an iPhone or iPad you may have to hit the audio button at top
of screen.  Apple makes you "click" something when you want sound.

Btw I just fixed a bug in Add URL so you might have to reload the page a
couple times before add URL works.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Willard Goosey]

That's really cool!


Willard

Sent from Samsung tablet

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Mark J. Blair]

It passes my Standard BASIC Test. Hooray!

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Cool.

I just got the virtual keyboard working for Android last night. Android
refuses to offer uncooked virtual keyboard events so I have to fake them by
grabbing the last character types into a special input control.

If you lose keyboard click the little keyboard button at the top of the
screen. Or anywhere on the virtual display.

-- John.

>

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Daryn Hanright]

This is fabulous! Well done Mr Hogerhuis!!!

Seems to work well on my Nexus 5. Will continue to play

Daryn

On Aug 28, 2016 10:08 AM, "John R. Hogerhuis"  wrote:

> So, I have an announcement... a new EXPERIMENTAL Model 100 emulator that
> I've been working on.
>
> It runs completely in the browser! PC, Mac, iPhone, Android. Chrome,
> Safari.
>
> http://bitchin100.com/CloudT
>
> The inspiration was that I wanted to have a Model 100 emulator for my
> iPhone. A native emulator written in Objective C would be best, but Apple
> doesn't allow you to distribute emulators in their fancy pants App Store.
> So a "web app" is the only option.
>
> Of course that means writing all the code in JavaScript. Insane, you say?
> Well, I've seen other "HTML5" emulators around, so I gave it a shot.
>
> So experiment with it and let me know what you think. The UI is pretty
> rough, I welcome suggestions for improvement.
>
> Recent versions of Chrome and Safari, desktop and mobile versions have
> been tested. I haven't tried Internet Explorer in a while, and given that
> it doesn't have a Web Audio API, I don't think it's worth targeting.
>
> The file I/O is based on a unique "fake cassette" system. If you CSAVE you
> should see your file pop up in a list at the bottom of the page. Once it is
> in the list you can download it your machine or save it to Google Drive.
> You can also import files from Club100 archive URLs, or from your Google
> Drive or your local file system.
>
> So you'll need to dust off your knowledge of cassette usage if you have
> been spoiled by TPDD's and TS-DOS. Excercise for the reader: load a .DO
> file into the emulator and get it in and out of TEXT. Trust me, it works.
>
> Thank you to Ken Pettit who spent lots of time testing and helping me
> diagnose bugs.
>
> CloudT is not intended to replace Ken's VirtualT. VT is still the Gold
> Standard of M100 emulators. Download VirtualT if you want the "real thing"
> particularly for emulation accuracy or development purposes.
>
> But CloudT may do in a pinch particularly on PC/Macs and faster mobile
> devices. It seems to work particularly well on the iPhone 6.
>
> http://bitchin100.com/CloudT
>
> I'm constantly fixing and enhancing this so let me know if you stub your
> toe on anything.
>
> -- John.
>