Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-20 Thread meadowlark77
Thanks for getting back again. - Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 10:16 PM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? hello Brenda Actually Gordon

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-19 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Brenda My apologies for the belated response. Gordon and I are really having a hard time keeping pace with mail these days which is gratifying because this list has now become a quite high volume forum. On 13 Oct 2013, at 15:04, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: • Hit Home

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-19 Thread meadowlark77
- Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 10:37 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Hello Brenda My apologies for the belated response. Gordon and I

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-19 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Brenda Actually it was I, rather than Gordon, who responded; but no problem. iOS7.02 certainly brings up some issues regarding accessibility. What Gordon does like about it though is the messaging applet. It’s now far easier to quickly edit, respond too and delete messages than it used

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-19 Thread meadowlark77
...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 7:37 PM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Hello Brenda Actually it was I, rather than Gordon, who responded; but no problem. iOS7.02 certainly brings up some issues regarding

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-19 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
hello Brenda Actually Gordon says he remembers you from a few years back. Yes, we’re always absolutely inundated with work both related to and not related to the project. We know that it’s appreciated by most if not all of our members and we are happy to do the job because we believe that we

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-19 Thread Sarah k Alawami
No aspect of ios7 with the native apps poses a problem for me. it all works very flawlessly. It' just rocks! On Oct 19, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: hello Brenda Actually Gordon says he remembers you from a few years back. Yes, we’re always

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Caitlyn Please forgive my shoddy response. Gordon and I ares only just managing to sit down now and respond to mail. Our work load has been excessive over the last few weeks. iOS7 is very visually appealing if you like colourful and pretty icons. Functionally, even on our old iPhone 4S

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Sarah I am seeing that my question provoked a lot of responses which is great. Thank you for your input. Again though, it is a very colourful and pretty OS from the visual perspective. That was why I asked the question. Gordon has been using iOS7 for some time and finds it very easy to

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Dónal Gordon hardly ever uses Safari in iOS, primarily I think because he gets a bit impatient with the mobile browser. But I think it is an area he needs to become more accustomed too as he might need that for work. Thank you for your well thought through input. Warm regards Lynne

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Tommy I need to try this for myself. So, from the main screen in iOS with VoiceOver active, how do you bring up the app switcher? I can switch apps visually and it’s really nice actually. But how do you initiate the app switcher with VoiceOver active? All or most of the gestures change.

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Zack This seems to be Gordon’s opinion too. Like you he’s been using it for some time and had no problems. He is saying that he has never encountered the focus loss issue which others have mentioned. We all, that is to say Tracy, Gordon and I, have iPhone 4S models but I am seriously

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Chris H
Lynn and all, the iPhone 5 and later, including the 5c and 5s, requires a nanosim, not a microsim as with the case of the 4 and 4s. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 13/10/2013 10:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello Zack This seems to be Gordon’s opinion too.

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Chris H
Lynn and all, double tap on the home button to bring up the app switcher. Now this is what I do. 1. Swipe to the right with one finger until you come to an app. 2. Swipe up or down with one finger until the close app is selected, where app is the name of an app, and double tap anywhere with one

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread meadowlark77
Hit Home twice. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:22 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7

RE: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Tommy Craig
: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Hello Tommy I need to try this for myself. So, from the main screen in iOS with VoiceOver active, how do you bring up the app switcher? I can switch apps visually and it's really nice actually. But how do you initiate the app switcher with VoiceOver

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-13 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It's actually a lot easier then the prior poster said to close apps. Open the app switcher with the double press of the home button, flick to the app and simply swipe up with 3 fingers. I'd give you a link to my podcast but it is currently broken, that is, something ate my enclosures. lol! On

RE: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread David Griffith
] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery life

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Daniela Rubio
Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery life as to be expected terrible

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Josh Gregory
Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Chris H
Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Carol Pearson
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Chris H
- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Carol Pearson
Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Josh Gregory
Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery life as to be expected

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread meadowlark77
- Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Have you guys noticed Siri behaves differently whether VoiceOver is on or off

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Daniela Rubio
mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Have you guys noticed Siri behaves differently whether

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread meadowlark77
04, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Hei, a good idea! I think that we can gust used to new ways of doing things, but what I just don't like, is that Siri now is slow, and many times she says: I am sorry, but I can' help you at this time Daniela Rubio T iPhone

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Sarah k Alawami
For me and siri I don't use it for calls, ever. I never did as it has always failed there even in ios6. but as for asking it stuff, it works just fantastic for me. I can get stuff spot on. Just give it a few more weeks as there are millions of people right nor accessing the servers. If only it

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-04 Thread Sarah k Alawami
] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery life

What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Cait and Maggie
Hi Lynn, Personally, I like IOS 7. some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your sleep. Where did

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Lynne, Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they need to really

RE: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Tommy Craig
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Hello everybody Firstly, let me just say that I'm not interested in what the fat cats and the professional analysts say; I'm looking for genuine user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Josh Gregory
I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other devices, but it is particularly noticeable here. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Zachary Kline
I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally blind person. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Agreed Josh and I have the same device. I also don’t like the VO behaviour in the lock-screen. On 3 Oct 2013, at 15:03, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Jane
Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching for

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems with a one-finger double tap. Best, Zack. On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes it is very accessible

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read it not set the focus to wherever in the field one happened to touch. Dónal On 3 Oct 2013, at 16:30, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Jane,

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Jane
Perhaps I got gestures confused. It's just that for some reason, when using my braille display to type in an edit field, it never taes the first time. I'll have to experiment. Jane On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Jane, This is weird. Dictation

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Chris H
Same here. While I liked iOS 7 under iPhone 4, my experience has been tons better since I upgraded to the iPhone 4s. I love the Siri improvements, which are actually new to me as never got the chance to use Siri on iOS 5 and iOS 6. I also love the overall responsiveness. Whether this is the

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Chris H
The issues I am having with Siri I am probably not aware of since I am new to Siri. I however do experience tiems where one time Siri can't handle requests but next time it can. But I can't blame that on iOS 7. So will put it down to something I get used to with Siri. After all Siri processes

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Isaac Hebert
Yes it is probably a bug in siri or it could be a issue wheir siri has two many request to process at one time. On 10/3/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: The issues I am having with Siri I am probably not aware of since I am new to Siri. I however do experience tiems where one time

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Chris H
Turn on reduced motion in settings general accessibility. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 15:03, Josh Gregory wrote: I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Chris H
Lynn, if I am correct, the only significant functionality missing on iOS 7 under older phones, even the 4s, is the Airdrop feature, which I'm sure you're familiar with on the Os X platform. For others, it allows certain files to be transferred from one iOS device to another, over bluetooth or

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread josh gregory
The airdrop functionality is due to iPhone 4s and older models lacking the wifi chip technology to allow these transfers. On 10/3/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Lynn, if I am correct, the only significant functionality missing on iOS 7 under older phones, even the 4s, is the

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread josh gregory
Did that, did pretty much nothing to solve the issue... On 10/3/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Turn on reduced motion in settings general accessibility. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 03/10/2013 15:03, Josh Gregory wrote: I will agree… Of particular

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread meadowlark77
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Ben J Bloomgren
Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Brian Fischler
I am running IOS 7.0.2 on an iPhone 4S and it is very accessible, but does have some annoying bugs. Half the time the two finger double tap to start and pause music doesn't work, and to get it to work again you have to shut the phone off, so this can be fairly annoying, and the other major

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yep gthat's what I shoed in my podcast on my site where it is. I have found vo to be a lot more responsive and I don't need that anyway as I get motion sick anyway lol! On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:48, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Turn on reduced motion in settings general accessibility.

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read it not set

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I am running IOS 7.0.2 on an iPhone 4S and it is very accessible, but does have some annoying bugs. Half the time the two finger double tap to start and pause music doesn't work, and to get it to work again you have to

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access issues

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread William Lomas
iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure

Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?

2013-10-03 Thread Josh Gregory
...@btinternet.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:14 PM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO