Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Marshall
thanks this this will help me a lot.

Michael
On 16 Aug 2014, at 2:52 pm, Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net wrote:

 Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 how do i go about blocking a program from connecting to the net?
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1810
 
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Overcast can't find my podcasts

2014-08-16 Thread Ian Harrison
Hi,

Just downloaded this app to try out.

It can't seem to find a lot of my podcasts, such as bbd friday night comedy or 
serotalk.

You can paste in an url, but I don't know how to do this.

Any kind helpers out there?

Thanks
Ian 
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How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Andy Collins
Hi all -

When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row of 
cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve interacted to 
get rid of the template screen, which I always get when Numbers opens. I’ve 
looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t see anything that would let 
me change where the cursor is when opening a spreadsheet -

Andy
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can do 
VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row of 
 cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve interacted to 
 get rid of the template screen, which I always get when Numbers opens. I’ve 
 looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t see anything that would 
 let me change where the cursor is when opening a spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: I think I broke mail

2014-08-16 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Sarah,

Here’s how I am able to rearrange columns in the classic view of Mail in 
Mavericks 10.9.4. Thanks to John Panarese’ excellent macforthe blind.com 
website for reminding me how to move focus to the header row.

1. Interact with the messages list in Mail.
2. Press VO+Shift+\ to move focus to the column headers.
3. Press VO+left or right arrows to move focus to the “status” column header.
4. Press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-down click.
5. Press VO+right or left arrow to move focus where you want to drop the status 
column. VO will announce the name of each header as you move past it.
6. When you’ve reached the desired location for your status column, press 
VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-up. This should drop the column in 
it’s new location.
7. When you are done rearranging columns, press VO+Shift+\ to return focus to 
the body of the messages list.

HTH,
Bryan

On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello to all. How do I rearrange columns in mail. I want my status to the 
 right of my conversations thing. I some how managed to move it. Can someone 
 advise on how I broke it, and then how to fix?

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a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Marshall
hey all,
am thinking about trying the OS10 beta on a partition that I will be creating.
my question is this, how do i go about accessing my documents and other files 
on my mavrics  partition?
i only want to share my music folders between the partitions.
thanks for any help

Michael
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RE: using ICloud

2014-08-16 Thread Henry Miller


Hi Sarah

Many thanks for your reply.

At the moment, I do not have any IDevices although I might purchase an
IPhone in the near future.  I wonder which is the best way to back up my Mac
bearing this in mind?  Should I use the ICloud or purchase an external drive
etc.

Kind regards

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 15 August 2014 22:09
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: using ICloud

Well there are no podcasts to speak of, but all you do is sign in and choose
what yu want backed up and hit back up now for the first tiem and let it do
its thing.

Take care. 
On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi
 
 Please could someone signpost me to either tutorials or podcasts on
getting
 started with ICloud?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne -

When I do CMD down arrow, I just get that ding sound that indicates the key 
stroke doesn’t exist, same for VO shift down arrow, that’s why I asked on list. 
Maybe I’am not using Numbers correctly. Each time I open a spreadsheet, I land 
in the layout area. I have to hit VO shift down arrow twice to actually get in 
to the body of the spreadsheet. Once there, I can’t do CMD down arrow to get to 
the end of the spreadsheet  as mentioned above -

Andy

On 16 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Andy,
 
 As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
 about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can do 
 VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row of 
 cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve interacted to 
 get rid of the template screen, which I always get when Numbers opens. I’ve 
 looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t see anything that would 
 let me change where the cursor is when opening a spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Kliphton Senior
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can share files between partitions.  
Also, they say the best way to test this beta is to get your system the way you 
want it, do a time machine backup, and then do the upgrade.  If it's not what 
you want or like, then you can go bak to mavericks.  Some are partitioning, but 
I can confirm that the beta has a bug in partitioning.  Even if you have a 
second partition named something else, the beta names them the same thing.  
Even when you try to delete one, it doesn't give you that space back.  So you 
will have to boot into disc recovery, erase both partitions, and then restore 
from the time machine backup.  The only reason I am still on the beta, is 
because mavericks won't let me use my iTunes library because it says it is from 
a newer version.  And my iTunes library is over 6TB and that is to much to do 
over.  JMO


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 On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 am thinking about trying the OS10 beta on a partition that I will be creating.
 my question is this, how do i go about accessing my documents and other files 
 on my mavrics  partition?
 i only want to share my music folders between the partitions.
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
I have decided on a time machine option. Too many variables with partitioning.
On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:25 pm, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:

 I could be wrong, but I don't think you can share files between partitions.  
 Also, they say the best way to test this beta is to get your system the way 
 you want it, do a time machine backup, and then do the upgrade.  If it's not 
 what you want or like, then you can go bak to mavericks.  Some are 
 partitioning, but I can confirm that the beta has a bug in partitioning.  
 Even if you have a second partition named something else, the beta names them 
 the same thing.  Even when you try to delete one, it doesn't give you that 
 space back.  So you will have to boot into disc recovery, erase both 
 partitions, and then restore from the time machine backup.  The only reason I 
 am still on the beta, is because mavericks won't let me use my iTunes library 
 because it says it is from a newer version.  And my iTunes library is over 
 6TB and that is to much to do over.  JMO
 
 
 Are you a Christian?  Looking for a convenient bible study?  Do you have 
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 http://twitter.com/MinisterKliph
 Hope you can join us!
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 am thinking about trying the OS10 beta on a partition that I will be 
 creating.
 my question is this, how do i go about accessing my documents and other 
 files on my mavrics  partition?
 i only want to share my music folders between the partitions.
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Kliphton Senior
Trust me, you are making the right choice.

 Are you a Christian?  Looking for a convenient bible study?  Do you have 
 Skype?  Well I host a fun, easy to follow bible study on skype.  If you’d 
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 Hope you can join us!


 On Aug 16, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 I have decided on a time machine option. Too many variables with partitioning.
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:25 pm, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I could be wrong, but I don't think you can share files between partitions.  
 Also, they say the best way to test this beta is to get your system the way 
 you want it, do a time machine backup, and then do the upgrade.  If it's not 
 what you want or like, then you can go bak to mavericks.  Some are 
 partitioning, but I can confirm that the beta has a bug in partitioning.  
 Even if you have a second partition named something else, the beta names 
 them the same thing.  Even when you try to delete one, it doesn't give you 
 that space back.  So you will have to boot into disc recovery, erase both 
 partitions, and then restore from the time machine backup.  The only reason 
 I am still on the beta, is because mavericks won't let me use my iTunes 
 library because it says it is from a newer version.  And my iTunes library 
 is over 6TB and that is to much to do over.  JMO
 
 
 Are you a Christian?  Looking for a convenient bible study?  Do you have 
 Skype?  Well I host a fun, easy to follow bible study on skype.  If you’d 
 like to join us, just contact me.
 [iMessageEmail] m.kliph...@icloud.com
 http://twitter.com/MinisterKliph
 Hope you can join us!
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 am thinking about trying the OS10 beta on a partition that I will be 
 creating.
 my question is this, how do i go about accessing my documents and other 
 files on my mavrics  partition?
 i only want to share my music folders between the partitions.
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: I think I broke mail

2014-08-16 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Sorry to be stupid here but I am interested in this although it all sounds 
highly technical for me at this stage does this differ from the default of the 
email client maybe somebody could explain to me in terms of Windows how this 
display is beneficial is John spoke publicly available are is it a boat to 
purchase

 On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:42, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 Here’s how I am able to rearrange columns in the classic view of Mail in 
 Mavericks 10.9.4. Thanks to John Panarese’ excellent macforthe blind.com 
 website for reminding me how to move focus to the header row.
 
 1. Interact with the messages list in Mail.
 2. Press VO+Shift+\ to move focus to the column headers.
 3. Press VO+left or right arrows to move focus to the “status” column header.
 4. Press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-down click.
 5. Press VO+right or left arrow to move focus where you want to drop the 
 status column. VO will announce the name of each header as you move past it.
 6. When you’ve reached the desired location for your status column, press 
 VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-up. This should drop the column 
 in it’s new location.
 7. When you are done rearranging columns, press VO+Shift+\ to return focus to 
 the body of the messages list.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello to all. How do I rearrange columns in mail. I want my status to the 
 right of my conversations thing. I some how managed to move it. Can someone 
 advise on how I broke it, and then how to fix?
 
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Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?

2014-08-16 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Michael,

Little Snitch is a great security utility, and much of it is actually quite VO 
accessible. Unfortunately, you will need a sighted person to tick one checkbox 
in order to turn on that accessibility. I’ve included instructions below. 
(Please don’t flame the messenger about this particular accessibility gotcha… 
I’ve already had my beard singed previously on this same subject, thread 
available in the archives.) :-)

Also, please be forewarned that This app is not for the impatient or 
faint-of-heart. It can be very chatty and verbose in it’s default 
configuration. However, for the User who is willing and able to take the time 
to learn and configure the myriad settings within this app, it can provide some 
good information and another layer of security.

Here’s how to install the app and enable VO access. This assumes the latest 
releases of Mavericks and Little Snitch.
1. Install Little Snitch and restart the Mac when prompted. While the Little 
Snitch installation process is VO accessible, I recommend not installing it 
unless a sighted person is available to perform steps 2 through 5 below, 
otherwise Little Snitch might start blocking network communications with no way 
for a blind User to know what is happening.
2. Launch applications / Little Snitch Configuration.app
3. Open the Little Snitch Preferences.
4. In the Security tab, tick the checkbox labeled “Allow GUI Scripting..” This 
will enable VO to interact with most parts of Little Snitch. You might need to 
restart the Mac again at this point.

One part of the app which I’m pretty sure is not VO accessible is the “Network 
Monitor” pane.

HTH,
Bryan

On Aug 15, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 I tried a program called Little snitch which looked perfect but alas was a 
 complete waste of time in terms of accessibility? completely useless.

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Creating a bootible usb drive

2014-08-16 Thread matthew Dyer
Hello list.

If this is kind of off topic, I am sorry up frunt.  I have a linux distro that 
I want to install on another computer.  If I burn it to a thumb drive, will it 
be bootible, or is there a program I can use to do this.

Thanks.  I am going today to get it so was wondering if it was possible.

Matthew


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Re: I think I broke mail

2014-08-16 Thread Phil Halton
Three things, first of all, the word would be ignorant and not stupid.
You're not stupid you just don't have certain information, And there's no 
reason to apologize for that. 
Secondly, if I were you I would completely forget about windows as a reference 
point for learning the Mac. They are two different animals, and It will only 
interfere with your understanding of the Mac operating system.
Thirdly, I believe John's information is on his website and I think that 
website is called Macfortheblind.com.
 Good luck Eleanor 

Sent from my IPhone


 On Aug 16, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry to be stupid here but I am interested in this although it all sounds 
 highly technical for me at this stage does this differ from the default of 
 the email client maybe somebody could explain to me in terms of Windows how 
 this display is beneficial is John spoke publicly available are is it a boat 
 to purchase
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:42, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 Here’s how I am able to rearrange columns in the classic view of Mail in 
 Mavericks 10.9.4. Thanks to John Panarese’ excellent macforthe blind.com 
 website for reminding me how to move focus to the header row.
 
 1. Interact with the messages list in Mail.
 2. Press VO+Shift+\ to move focus to the column headers.
 3. Press VO+left or right arrows to move focus to the “status” column header.
 4. Press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-down click.
 5. Press VO+right or left arrow to move focus where you want to drop the 
 status column. VO will announce the name of each header as you move past it.
 6. When you’ve reached the desired location for your status column, press 
 VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-up. This should drop the column 
 in it’s new location.
 7. When you are done rearranging columns, press VO+Shift+\ to return focus 
 to the body of the messages list.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello to all. How do I rearrange columns in mail. I want my status to the 
 right of my conversations thing. I some how managed to move it. Can someone 
 advise on how I broke it, and then how to fix?
 
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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Marshall
I feel good about this choice. Last time I tried partitioning FileVault 
disabled everything and it took the brilliance of two Apple geniuses to undo 
the damage.
On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:30 pm, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:

 Trust me, you are making the right choice.
 
 Are you a Christian?  Looking for a convenient bible study?  Do you have 
 Skype?  Well I host a fun, easy to follow bible study on skype.  If you’d 
 like to join us, just contact me.
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 http://twitter.com/MinisterKliph
 Hope you can join us!
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 I have decided on a time machine option. Too many variables with 
 partitioning.
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:25 pm, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I could be wrong, but I don't think you can share files between partitions. 
  Also, they say the best way to test this beta is to get your system the 
 way you want it, do a time machine backup, and then do the upgrade.  If 
 it's not what you want or like, then you can go bak to mavericks.  Some are 
 partitioning, but I can confirm that the beta has a bug in partitioning.  
 Even if you have a second partition named something else, the beta names 
 them the same thing.  Even when you try to delete one, it doesn't give you 
 that space back.  So you will have to boot into disc recovery, erase both 
 partitions, and then restore from the time machine backup.  The only reason 
 I am still on the beta, is because mavericks won't let me use my iTunes 
 library because it says it is from a newer version.  And my iTunes library 
 is over 6TB and that is to much to do over.  JMO
 
 
 Are you a Christian?  Looking for a convenient bible study?  Do you have 
 Skype?  Well I host a fun, easy to follow bible study on skype.  If you’d 
 like to join us, just contact me.
 [iMessageEmail] m.kliph...@icloud.com
 http://twitter.com/MinisterKliph
 Hope you can join us!
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 am thinking about trying the OS10 beta on a partition that I will be 
 creating.
 my question is this, how do i go about accessing my documents and other 
 files on my mavrics  partition?
 i only want to share my music folders between the partitions.
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Marshall
thanks will keep that app in mined.
I am not greatly concerned about obtaining a firewall but i thank you for your 
help

Michael
On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:53 pm, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 Hello Michael,
 
 Little Snitch is a great security utility, and much of it is actually quite 
 VO accessible. Unfortunately, you will need a sighted person to tick one 
 checkbox in order to turn on that accessibility. I’ve included instructions 
 below. (Please don’t flame the messenger about this particular accessibility 
 gotcha… I’ve already had my beard singed previously on this same subject, 
 thread available in the archives.) :-)
 
 Also, please be forewarned that This app is not for the impatient or 
 faint-of-heart. It can be very chatty and verbose in it’s default 
 configuration. However, for the User who is willing and able to take the time 
 to learn and configure the myriad settings within this app, it can provide 
 some good information and another layer of security.
 
 Here’s how to install the app and enable VO access. This assumes the latest 
 releases of Mavericks and Little Snitch.
 1. Install Little Snitch and restart the Mac when prompted. While the Little 
 Snitch installation process is VO accessible, I recommend not installing it 
 unless a sighted person is available to perform steps 2 through 5 below, 
 otherwise Little Snitch might start blocking network communications with no 
 way for a blind User to know what is happening.
 2. Launch applications / Little Snitch Configuration.app
 3. Open the Little Snitch Preferences.
 4. In the Security tab, tick the checkbox labeled “Allow GUI Scripting..” 
 This will enable VO to interact with most parts of Little Snitch. You might 
 need to restart the Mac again at this point.
 
 One part of the app which I’m pretty sure is not VO accessible is the 
 “Network Monitor” pane.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I tried a program called Little snitch which looked perfect but alas was a 
 complete waste of time in terms of accessibility? completely useless.
 
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RE: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Debbie April Yuille
Make sure that you back up right before you update to Yosemite. That way you
are sure that you will have the most current Mavericks installation you can.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2014 11:29 PM
To: mac access
Subject: Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

hey,
I have decided on a time machine option. Too many variables with
partitioning.
On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:25 pm, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:

 I could be wrong, but I don't think you can share files between 
 partitions.  Also, they say the best way to test this beta is to get 
 your system the way you want it, do a time machine backup, and then do 
 the upgrade.  If it's not what you want or like, then you can go bak 
 to mavericks.  Some are partitioning, but I can confirm that the beta 
 has a bug in partitioning.  Even if you have a second partition named 
 something else, the beta names them the same thing.  Even when you try 
 to delete one, it doesn't give you that space back.  So you will have 
 to boot into disc recovery, erase both partitions, and then restore 
 from the time machine backup.  The only reason I am still on the beta, 
 is because mavericks won't let me use my iTunes library because it 
 says it is from a newer version.  And my iTunes library is over 6TB 
 and that is to much to do over.  JMO
 
 
 Are you a Christian?  Looking for a convenient bible study?  Do you have
Skype?  Well I host a fun, easy to follow bible study on skype.  If you'd
like to join us, just contact me.
 [iMessageEmail] m.kliph...@icloud.com 
 http://twitter.com/MinisterKliph Hope you can join us!
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 hey all,
 am thinking about trying the OS10 beta on a partition that I will be
creating.
 my question is this, how do i go about accessing my documents and other
files on my mavrics  partition?
 i only want to share my music folders between the partitions.
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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RE: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Debbie April Yuille
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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

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RE: a question about sharing files between two partitions

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Re: I think I broke mail

2014-08-16 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
thanks I appreciate that however my reference to windows was only so that I 
could get an understanding as to the layout perhaps I could still get a 
description of the layout as I wanted to decide whether it is worth me doing it 
or not so to go back to one of my questions which was how does the layout you 
and Sarah were discussing in terms of the layout of the classic I mean the 
default view

 On 16 Aug 2014, at 15:15, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Three things, first of all, the word would be ignorant and not stupid.
 You're not stupid you just don't have certain information, And there's no 
 reason to apologize for that. 
 Secondly, if I were you I would completely forget about windows as a 
 reference point for learning the Mac. They are two different animals, and It 
 will only interfere with your understanding of the Mac operating system.
 Thirdly, I believe John's information is on his website and I think that 
 website is called Macfortheblind.com.
 Good luck Eleanor 
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry to be stupid here but I am interested in this although it all sounds 
 highly technical for me at this stage does this differ from the default of 
 the email client maybe somebody could explain to me in terms of Windows how 
 this display is beneficial is John spoke publicly available are is it a boat 
 to purchase
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:42, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 Here’s how I am able to rearrange columns in the classic view of Mail in 
 Mavericks 10.9.4. Thanks to John Panarese’ excellent macforthe blind.com 
 website for reminding me how to move focus to the header row.
 
 1. Interact with the messages list in Mail.
 2. Press VO+Shift+\ to move focus to the column headers.
 3. Press VO+left or right arrows to move focus to the “status” column 
 header.
 4. Press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-down click.
 5. Press VO+right or left arrow to move focus where you want to drop the 
 status column. VO will announce the name of each header as you move past it.
 6. When you’ve reached the desired location for your status column, press 
 VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-up. This should drop the 
 column in it’s new location.
 7. When you are done rearranging columns, press VO+Shift+\ to return focus 
 to the body of the messages list.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello to all. How do I rearrange columns in mail. I want my status to the 
 right of my conversations thing. I some how managed to move it. Can 
 someone advise on how I broke it, and then how to fix?
 
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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

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Re: Creating a bootible usb drive

2014-08-16 Thread Glenn
Matthew,
Try here:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
You can select the distro you want and it installs it for you.
Glenn
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Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:11 AM
Subject: Creating a bootible usb drive


Hello list.

If this is kind of off topic, I am sorry up frunt.  I have a linux distro 
that I want to install on another computer.  If I burn it to a thumb drive, 
will it be bootible, or is there a program I can use to do this.

Thanks.  I am going today to get it so was wondering if it was possible.

Matthew


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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

I interact once with the table then I can press Cmd-Down Arrow and I’m at the 
bottom of that column. Cmd-Right Arrow takes me to the end of the row. I have 
my mouse set to ignore the other cursors but I don’t know whether that makes a 
difference.

Another thought, have you set Cmd-Down Arrow to do something else in Numbers? 
Someone I know set Cmd-c as a short cut for something other than Copy and 
wondered why it wasn’t working to copy things.

However, I do find that Numbers easily gets temperamental and I have to repair 
permissions to get it to behave itself again.

Cheers,

Anne



On 16 Aug 2014, at 15:24, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi Anne -
 
 When I do CMD down arrow, I just get that ding sound that indicates the key 
 stroke doesn’t exist, same for VO shift down arrow, that’s why I asked on 
 list. Maybe I’am not using Numbers correctly. Each time I open a spreadsheet, 
 I land in the layout area. I have to hit VO shift down arrow twice to 
 actually get in to the body of the spreadsheet. Once there, I can’t do CMD 
 down arrow to get to the end of the spreadsheet  as mentioned above -
 
 Andy
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
 about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can do 
 VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row of 
 cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve interacted 
 to get rid of the template screen, which I always get when Numbers opens. 
 I’ve looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t see anything that 
 would let me change where the cursor is when opening a spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne -

When I first interact after opening Numbers, VO says:
Table 1 table.

I had to interact again, and then VO announces:
Table 1 table has been removed from selection.

At this point, I was able to access my spreadsheet, but CMD down arrow, which 
hasn’t been reassigned to do something different, just gave me the ding sound -

Andy
On 16 Aug 2014, at 16:28, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Andy,
 
 I interact once with the table then I can press Cmd-Down Arrow and I’m at the 
 bottom of that column. Cmd-Right Arrow takes me to the end of the row. I have 
 my mouse set to ignore the other cursors but I don’t know whether that makes 
 a difference.
 
 Another thought, have you set Cmd-Down Arrow to do something else in Numbers? 
 Someone I know set Cmd-c as a short cut for something other than Copy and 
 wondered why it wasn’t working to copy things.
 
 However, I do find that Numbers easily gets temperamental and I have to 
 repair permissions to get it to behave itself again.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 15:24, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 When I do CMD down arrow, I just get that ding sound that indicates the key 
 stroke doesn’t exist, same for VO shift down arrow, that’s why I asked on 
 list. Maybe I’am not using Numbers correctly. Each time I open a 
 spreadsheet, I land in the layout area. I have to hit VO shift down arrow 
 twice to actually get in to the body of the spreadsheet. Once there, I can’t 
 do CMD down arrow to get to the end of the spreadsheet  as mentioned above -
 
 Andy
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
 about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can 
 do VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row of 
 cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve interacted 
 to get rid of the template screen, which I always get when Numbers opens. 
 I’ve looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t see anything that 
 would let me change where the cursor is when opening a spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

I don’t get all the VO chatter you do because I have verbosity set to Low for 
Numbers but I do have to interact with table one.

I tried with Quick Nav on and it still worked. Then I tried with the Trackpad 
commander on and it still worked.

You didn’t say whether you’ve repaired permissions lately. If you have, then 
maybe reinitialising the PRAM will help.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:01, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi Anne -
 
 When I first interact after opening Numbers, VO says:
 Table 1 table.
 
 I had to interact again, and then VO announces:
 Table 1 table has been removed from selection.
 
 At this point, I was able to access my spreadsheet, but CMD down arrow, which 
 hasn’t been reassigned to do something different, just gave me the ding sound 
 -
 
 Andy
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 16:28, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 I interact once with the table then I can press Cmd-Down Arrow and I’m at 
 the bottom of that column. Cmd-Right Arrow takes me to the end of the row. I 
 have my mouse set to ignore the other cursors but I don’t know whether that 
 makes a difference.
 
 Another thought, have you set Cmd-Down Arrow to do something else in 
 Numbers? Someone I know set Cmd-c as a short cut for something other than 
 Copy and wondered why it wasn’t working to copy things.
 
 However, I do find that Numbers easily gets temperamental and I have to 
 repair permissions to get it to behave itself again.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 15:24, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 When I do CMD down arrow, I just get that ding sound that indicates the key 
 stroke doesn’t exist, same for VO shift down arrow, that’s why I asked on 
 list. Maybe I’am not using Numbers correctly. Each time I open a 
 spreadsheet, I land in the layout area. I have to hit VO shift down arrow 
 twice to actually get in to the body of the spreadsheet. Once there, I 
 can’t do CMD down arrow to get to the end of the spreadsheet  as mentioned 
 above -
 
 Andy
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
 about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can 
 do VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row 
 of cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve 
 interacted to get rid of the template screen, which I always get when 
 Numbers opens. I’ve looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t 
 see anything that would let me change where the cursor is when opening a 
 spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?

2014-08-16 Thread Christian Schöpplein
Hi,

do also take a look at the open source project icefloor. Its a firewall that 
can be used in adition to the default firewall of Mac OS. It is possible to 
build custom firewall roules, get an overview on the connections on the Mac, 
block applications, etc. The app is very accessible and can be used with 
VoiceOver.

Cheers,

  Christian

 Am 16.08.2014 um 16:53 schrieb Bryan Jones openses...@me.com:
 
 Hello Michael,
 
 Little Snitch is a great security utility, and much of it is actually quite 
 VO accessible. Unfortunately, you will need a sighted person to tick one 
 checkbox in order to turn on that accessibility. I’ve included instructions 
 below. (Please don’t flame the messenger about this particular accessibility 
 gotcha… I’ve already had my beard singed previously on this same subject, 
 thread available in the archives.) :-)
 
 Also, please be forewarned that This app is not for the impatient or 
 faint-of-heart. It can be very chatty and verbose in it’s default 
 configuration. However, for the User who is willing and able to take the time 
 to learn and configure the myriad settings within this app, it can provide 
 some good information and another layer of security.
 
 Here’s how to install the app and enable VO access. This assumes the latest 
 releases of Mavericks and Little Snitch.
 1. Install Little Snitch and restart the Mac when prompted. While the Little 
 Snitch installation process is VO accessible, I recommend not installing it 
 unless a sighted person is available to perform steps 2 through 5 below, 
 otherwise Little Snitch might start blocking network communications with no 
 way for a blind User to know what is happening.
 2. Launch applications / Little Snitch Configuration.app
 3. Open the Little Snitch Preferences.
 4. In the Security tab, tick the checkbox labeled “Allow GUI Scripting..” 
 This will enable VO to interact with most parts of Little Snitch. You might 
 need to restart the Mac again at this point.
 
 One part of the app which I’m pretty sure is not VO accessible is the 
 “Network Monitor” pane.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
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 wrote:
 I tried a program called Little snitch which looked perfect but alas was a 
 complete waste of time in terms of accessibility? completely useless.
 
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne -

No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but while 
nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe it’s time -

Andy
On 16 Aug 2014, at 17:20, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Andy,
 
 I don’t get all the VO chatter you do because I have verbosity set to Low for 
 Numbers but I do have to interact with table one.
 
 I tried with Quick Nav on and it still worked. Then I tried with the Trackpad 
 commander on and it still worked.
 
 You didn’t say whether you’ve repaired permissions lately. If you have, then 
 maybe reinitialising the PRAM will help.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:01, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 When I first interact after opening Numbers, VO says:
 Table 1 table.
 
 I had to interact again, and then VO announces:
 Table 1 table has been removed from selection.
 
 At this point, I was able to access my spreadsheet, but CMD down arrow, 
 which hasn’t been reassigned to do something different, just gave me the 
 ding sound -
 
 Andy
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 16:28, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 I interact once with the table then I can press Cmd-Down Arrow and I’m at 
 the bottom of that column. Cmd-Right Arrow takes me to the end of the row. 
 I have my mouse set to ignore the other cursors but I don’t know whether 
 that makes a difference.
 
 Another thought, have you set Cmd-Down Arrow to do something else in 
 Numbers? Someone I know set Cmd-c as a short cut for something other than 
 Copy and wondered why it wasn’t working to copy things.
 
 However, I do find that Numbers easily gets temperamental and I have to 
 repair permissions to get it to behave itself again.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 15:24, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 When I do CMD down arrow, I just get that ding sound that indicates the 
 key stroke doesn’t exist, same for VO shift down arrow, that’s why I asked 
 on list. Maybe I’am not using Numbers correctly. Each time I open a 
 spreadsheet, I land in the layout area. I have to hit VO shift down arrow 
 twice to actually get in to the body of the spreadsheet. Once there, I 
 can’t do CMD down arrow to get to the end of the spreadsheet  as mentioned 
 above -
 
 Andy
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so 
 difficult about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? 
 Alternatively, you can do VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row 
 of cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve 
 interacted to get rid of the template screen, which I always get when 
 Numbers opens. I’ve looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t 
 see anything that would let me change where the cursor is when opening a 
 spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

You should repair permissions after installing new software and after updates.

People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not repairing 
permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs such as 
Numbers, you’re going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you have already 
done.

I’ve been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I’m talking 
about.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but 
 while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe 
 it’s time -
 
 Andy

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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Not Andy but what is Repan permissions and how is this done please

 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing new software and after updates.
 
 People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not 
 repairing permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs 
 such as Numbers, you’re going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you 
 have already done.
 
 I’ve been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I’m talking 
 about.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but 
 while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe 
 it’s time -
 
 Andy
 
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Re: I think I broke mail

2014-08-16 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Sorry that did not work. Focus will not move to the headers colomn witht he 
mouse. My table is still in focus. I've been having focus issues in 10.9 and 
up, now with 10.9.5

For th eone who was wondering about windows, I say in my training materinasl to 
through all skills out the window regarding windows as you will not need them. 
Layout is differen and you get to do things mostly the sighted way which 
actually helps me a lot in regard to training. 

Hope I can get this mail problem solved. I really want my colomns back the way 
it was before I managed to some how do this wiht out knowing. 

Take care. 
On Aug 16, 2014, at 4:42 AM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 Hello Sarah,
 
 Here’s how I am able to rearrange columns in the classic view of Mail in 
 Mavericks 10.9.4. Thanks to John Panarese’ excellent macforthe blind.com 
 website for reminding me how to move focus to the header row.
 
 1. Interact with the messages list in Mail.
 2. Press VO+Shift+\ to move focus to the column headers.
 3. Press VO+left or right arrows to move focus to the “status” column header.
 4. Press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-down click.
 5. Press VO+right or left arrow to move focus where you want to drop the 
 status column. VO will announce the name of each header as you move past it.
 6. When you’ve reached the desired location for your status column, press 
 VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-up. This should drop the column 
 in it’s new location.
 7. When you are done rearranging columns, press VO+Shift+\ to return focus to 
 the body of the messages list.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello to all. How do I rearrange columns in mail. I want my status to the 
 right of my conversations thing. I some how managed to move it. Can someone 
 advise on how I broke it, and then how to fix?
 
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Re: using ICloud

2014-08-16 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I would at first get an external drive as with icloud you only get 5 gigs free. 
and wiht an external drive you can go up to 4t (no that is not a mis print) in 
size. I have a 1t phantom that I use  for time machine back up and back blaze 
currently for my back up off site for everythign else. 

Take care. 
On Aug 16, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.
 
 At the moment, I do not have any IDevices although I might purchase an
 IPhone in the near future.  I wonder which is the best way to back up my Mac
 bearing this in mind?  Should I use the ICloud or purchase an external drive
 etc.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 15 August 2014 22:09
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: using ICloud
 
 Well there are no podcasts to speak of, but all you do is sign in and choose
 what yu want backed up and hit back up now for the first tiem and let it do
 its thing.
 
 Take care. 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 Please could someone signpost me to either tutorials or podcasts on
 getting
 started with ICloud?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

To repair permissions:
• Open your Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u);
• Type dis to get quickly to Disk Utility and open it (Cmd-o);
• Interact with the table and navigate down to your hard drive (probably the 
second item in the list);
• Stop interacting and navigate twice to the right to make sure that First Aid 
is selected;
• Navigate straight down as far as Repair disk permissions and press VO-Space:
• You can follow progress by navigating up to the Results table and interacting 
with it;
• When the repair is complete, it will say “Permissions repair complete” at the 
bottom of the Results table;
• Quit Disk utility.

There will always be a few things to repair. I usually find about 7 lines in 
the table, but I’ve seen computers with thousands of lines of repairs!

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 19:21, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Not Andy but what is Repan permissions and how is this done please
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing new software and after 
 updates.
 
 People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not 
 repairing permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs 
 such as Numbers, you’re going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you 
 have already done.
 
 I’ve been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I’m 
 talking about.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but 
 while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe 
 it’s time -
 
 Andy
 
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
thanks Anne Will make a note of these instructions and do this then from time 
to time

 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:37, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 To repair permissions:
 • Open your Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u);
 • Type dis to get quickly to Disk Utility and open it (Cmd-o);
 • Interact with the table and navigate down to your hard drive (probably the 
 second item in the list);
 • Stop interacting and navigate twice to the right to make sure that First 
 Aid is selected;
 • Navigate straight down as far as Repair disk permissions and press VO-Space:
 • You can follow progress by navigating up to the Results table and 
 interacting with it;
 • When the repair is complete, it will say “Permissions repair complete” at 
 the bottom of the Results table;
 • Quit Disk utility.
 
 There will always be a few things to repair. I usually find about 7 lines in 
 the table, but I’ve seen computers with thousands of lines of repairs!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 19:21, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not Andy but what is Repan permissions and how is this done please
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing new software and after 
 updates.
 
 People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not 
 repairing permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs 
 such as Numbers, you’re going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you 
 have already done.
 
 I’ve been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I’m 
 talking about.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but 
 while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe 
 it’s time -
 
 Andy
 
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RE: using ICloud

2014-08-16 Thread Henry Miller


Hi Sarah

Many thanks for your advice.

Kind regards

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 16 August 2014 18:24
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: using ICloud

I would at first get an external drive as with icloud you only get 5 gigs
free. and wiht an external drive you can go up to 4t (no that is not a mis
print) in size. I have a 1t phantom that I use  for time machine back up and
back blaze currently for my back up off site for everythign else. 

Take care. 
On Aug 16, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.
 
 At the moment, I do not have any IDevices although I might purchase an
 IPhone in the near future.  I wonder which is the best way to back up my
Mac
 bearing this in mind?  Should I use the ICloud or purchase an external
drive
 etc.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 15 August 2014 22:09
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: using ICloud
 
 Well there are no podcasts to speak of, but all you do is sign in and
choose
 what yu want backed up and hit back up now for the first tiem and let it
do
 its thing.
 
 Take care. 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 Please could someone signpost me to either tutorials or podcasts on
 getting
 started with ICloud?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne -

I’ve always respected your knowledge and experience, right from first coming to 
the mac and this list just over 12 months ago. Like I said, the only reason I 
haven’t done repairs etc was from fear of messing something up. Now a feel more 
confident with my mac, I am more brave about doing things.

I am as you commented, a lite user of the Mac, in so much as what I do is 
pretty basic and strait forward, even my spreadsheets are just basic house 
keeping these days.

However, I did upgrade to Mavericks a couple of weeks ago, so maybe now is a 
good time to look at repairing permissions -

Andy
On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing new software and after updates.
 
 People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not 
 repairing permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs 
 such as Numbers, you’re going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you 
 have already done.
 
 I’ve been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I’m talking 
 about.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but 
 while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe 
 it’s time -
 
 Andy
 
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Re: Creating a bootible usb drive

2014-08-16 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi,

When you say it installs it  do you mean it installs it to the thumb drive.  I 
want to install the latest sonar based off of mangaro.  HTH.


matthew Dyer
matthew.dy...@icloud.com



On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Matthew,
 Try here:
 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
 You can select the distro you want and it installs it for you.
 Glenn
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 From: matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:11 AM
 Subject: Creating a bootible usb drive
 
 
 Hello list.
 
 If this is kind of off topic, I am sorry up frunt.  I have a linux distro 
 that I want to install on another computer.  If I burn it to a thumb drive, 
 will it be bootible, or is there a program I can use to do this.
 
 Thanks.  I am going today to get it so was wondering if it was possible.
 
 Matthew
 
 
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Re: Creating a bootible usb drive

2014-08-16 Thread matthew Dyer
Ok just looked at the site but I have a mac and not windows.  Is there 
something for macc that would work.

Matthew


matthew Dyer
matthew.dy...@icloud.com



On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:23 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 When you say it installs it  do you mean it installs it to the thumb drive.  
 I want to install the latest sonar based off of mangaro.  HTH.
 
 
 matthew Dyer
 matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Matthew,
 Try here:
 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
 You can select the distro you want and it installs it for you.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:11 AM
 Subject: Creating a bootible usb drive
 
 
 Hello list.
 
 If this is kind of off topic, I am sorry up frunt.  I have a linux distro 
 that I want to install on another computer.  If I burn it to a thumb drive, 
 will it be bootible, or is there a program I can use to do this.
 
 Thanks.  I am going today to get it so was wondering if it was possible.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 matthew Dyer
 matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 
 
 
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Re: Creating a bootible usb drive

2014-08-16 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I would actually write to the techno chat list to get yoru question answered re 
linux and all of its veriance. 

JMT

Take care and hth.


On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:11 AM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hello list.
 
 If this is kind of off topic, I am sorry up frunt.  I have a linux distro 
 that I want to install on another computer.  If I burn it to a thumb drive, 
 will it be bootible, or is there a program I can use to do this.
 
 Thanks.  I am going today to get it so was wondering if it was possible.
 
 Matthew
 
 
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RE: Repair Permissions

2014-08-16 Thread Henry Miller


Hi Anne

Many thanks for these instructions, they are greatly appreciated.  I too
have just upgraded to Mavericks and encountered a couple of issues-hopefully
now that I have followed your instructions all wil be well.

Kind regards

Henry
 


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 16 August 2014 18:37
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell
all the time?

Hello Eleanor,

To repair permissions:
. Open your Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u);
. Type dis to get quickly to Disk Utility and open it (Cmd-o);
. Interact with the table and navigate down to your hard drive (probably the
second item in the list);
. Stop interacting and navigate twice to the right to make sure that First
Aid is selected;
. Navigate straight down as far as Repair disk permissions and press
VO-Space:
. You can follow progress by navigating up to the Results table and
interacting with it;
. When the repair is complete, it will say Permissions repair complete at
the bottom of the Results table;
. Quit Disk utility.

There will always be a few things to repair. I usually find about 7 lines in
the table, but I've seen computers with thousands of lines of repairs!

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 19:21, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not Andy but what is Repan permissions and how is this done please
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing new software and after
updates.
 
 People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not
repairing permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs
such as Numbers, you're going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you
have already done.
 
 I've been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I'm
talking about.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven't ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed,
but while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone.
Maybe it's time -
 
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Re: Creating a bootible usb drive

2014-08-16 Thread Glenn
Matthew,
This utility installs the distro you want onto the thumbdrive, and you boot 
it up, like it is on a CD/DVD.
So you will be a live user, and can install it along side your OS or just 
use it from the thumbdrive.
Glenn
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Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Creating a bootible usb drive


Hi,

When you say it installs it  do you mean it installs it to the thumb drive. 
I want to install the latest sonar based off of mangaro.  HTH.


matthew Dyer
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On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Matthew,
 Try here:
 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
 You can select the distro you want and it installs it for you.
 Glenn
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 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:11 AM
 Subject: Creating a bootible usb drive


 Hello list.

 If this is kind of off topic, I am sorry up frunt.  I have a linux distro
 that I want to install on another computer.  If I burn it to a thumb 
 drive,
 will it be bootible, or is there a program I can use to do this.

 Thanks.  I am going today to get it so was wondering if it was possible.

 Matthew


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iBooks

2014-08-16 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello everybody

Just a quick question which somebody answered for me a while ago but to my 
shane I can no longer find the relevant message.  Where are books stored when 
downloaded by iBooks?  What format are they stored in?  Is it possible to copy 
the text from an iBook and have it saved in, for instance, Text Edit?

Many thanks.

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Re: iBooks

2014-08-16 Thread Joshua Tubbs
I think the books are stored in your media library on your Mac. As for iOS, 
they seem like they open in their own preparatory format in iCloud. On the Mac 
they use the same format.

 On Aug 16, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
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 Just a quick question which somebody answered for me a while ago but to my 
 shane I can no longer find the relevant message.  Where are books stored when 
 downloaded by iBooks?  What format are they stored in?  Is it possible to 
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 Many thanks.
 
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Re: iBooks

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Gordon,

Here’s where to find your iBooks:
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/


Unfortunately, the names are not meaningful and the file type is epub.

As far as I know, you can only open them in iBooks, unless you created them 
yourself, in which case, you can open them with Adobe Digital Editions.

However you open your books, you can still try using VO-Shift-c to copy what’s 
in the VoiceOver Cursor to the clipboard and then paste it into TextEdit. In 
Adobe Digital Editions, this gives you a page at a time.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hello everybody
 
 Just a quick question which somebody answered for me a while ago but to my 
 shane I can no longer find the relevant message.  Where are books stored when 
 downloaded by iBooks?  What format are they stored in?  Is it possible to 
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 Many thanks.
 
 Kindest regards
 
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I think my Mac is broken

2014-08-16 Thread Aleeha Dudley
I think my Mac is broken 
Hello all, 
I recently obtained a very old macbook pro and updated it to maverix. It has 
told me that it does not have any wifi hardware installed. It had this hardware 
installed before the upgrade. It also will not completely shut down. Even when 
I tell it to shut down, it makes the system start noise and puts me on the 
login screen. Any suggestions? 



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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Jason White
Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 I could be wrong, but I don't think you can share files between partitions.  

You can, however, create symbolic links that span file systems. For this to
work, the file systems on both partitions need to be mounted.

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Re: I think my Mac is broken

2014-08-16 Thread Sarah k Alawami
What happens if you boot in to recovery drive and scan yoru hd for any issues 
it might have?

Take care.
On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think my Mac is broken 
 Hello all, 
 I recently obtained a very old macbook pro and updated it to maverix. It has 
 told me that it does not have any wifi hardware installed. It had this 
 hardware installed before the upgrade. It also will not completely shut down. 
 Even when I tell it to shut down, it makes the system start noise and puts me 
 on the login screen. Any suggestions? 
 
 
 
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 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
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Re: I think my Mac is broken

2014-08-16 Thread Aleeha Dudley
I'm not exactly sure how to do that… I'm a very new Mac user.

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blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
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 On Aug 16, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What happens if you boot in to recovery drive and scan yoru hd for any issues 
 it might have?
 
 Take care.
 On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I think my Mac is broken 
 Hello all, 
 I recently obtained a very old macbook pro and updated it to maverix. It has 
 told me that it does not have any wifi hardware installed. It had this 
 hardware installed before the upgrade. It also will not completely shut 
 down. Even when I tell it to shut down, it makes the system start noise and 
 puts me on the login screen. Any suggestions? 
 
 
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
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 proverb 
 
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Re: a question about sharing files between two partitions

2014-08-16 Thread Travis Siegel
If you just want to share a folder on one partition to a folder on  
another partition, (or a single file) you might be out of luck.
However, it's common practice on unix systems to mount several  
partitions into various places in the file system which of course  
makes those files available to the host os, regardless of where they  
may be on the drive.
Most unix servers have multiple drives mounted in various locations on  
the file system, especially for backup or file serving purposes.
On my linux box, I have 3 hard drives.  One is the main drive, and  
mounted at the root of the file system.
A second drive is mounted under the /home folder, thereby giving me an  
entire drive for user directories, and removing the most used piece of  
any server off the main drive.
In addition, I have a third drive mounted under the /usr/local  
directory, thereby allowing me to put any programs I like in the /usr/ 
local/ folder, and the entire hiearchy will be completely independent  
of the main linux drive.  If I were running this server for general  
internet usage, and I'd have various users logging in regularly, I'd  
probably add a fourth drive, and mount it in the /var/mail location,  
so that user email boxes wouldn't eat system resources that could  
otherwise be used for system specific functions.  Much better than  
quotas, and the system won't crash if the drive gets full, since all  
the mail files are on their own drive, and thus won't affect the main  
system functionality.
Beyond mounting entire drives, the only way to get files to show up in  
other locations (such as on other partitions) is to link the files  
into that location.  However, this raises it's own set of issues, as  
depending on your unix version, permission settings, kind of link, and  
partition types, it's very possible that you won't be able to see the  
newly linked file.
All of these issues are of course resolvable, but it helps to have  
knowledge of unix file systems before trying to do such a thing.
Unfortunately, I don't have any links to tutorials or the like about  
unix file systems and how to care for and organize them, but a quick  
read of the mount umount ln and cp man pages (although rather dry  
reading in places) should give you a firm grounding in various file  
linkage methods.


One note though, Do not use the mv command to move files from one  
partition to another under osx.  Most unix versions handle this type  
of thing quite well, (first copying the file to the new device before  
removing it from the old one, or simply altering the file allocation  
table to point to the new file location if the file is on the same  
logical partition.)   However, for some reason, osx does not always do  
this, and it is possible to lose a file entirely if mv commands are  
used cross device boundaries.  Copying files of course does not have  
this problem.

hth
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Re: iBooks

2014-08-16 Thread Travis Siegel
Anne (as always) offers excellent points on the ibook files.  However,  
I have found that it's possible to simply use the unzip program (in  
terminal) to uncompress the ibook files.  They are indeed simply epub  
books, but as with any other epub formatted ebooks, if they are  
encrypted, (and many of the ibooks are) you will not be able to make  
any sense out of them even after unzipping them, because their content  
will be encrypted by a method that is both complex and (slightly)  
nonstandard.  (at least based on some poking around I've done).  There  
is an iso standards document for epub formats, and it allows for  
encryption of content.  I have been unable to reconcile the apple  
ibooks with said iso documents, though it's possible my understanding  
of the encryption/decryption method is incomplete, as that part of the  
document wasn't the easiest to follow.  Most epub readers use  
prewritten libraries released by different manufacturers to do all the  
heavy lifting, and don't really write their own routines for this.  My  
attempts to do so meat with very little success, and since it was more  
of a curiosity thing for me than anything else, I gave up on it and  
moved on to other more interesting reading. :)


But, then again, I've rarely had much luck trying to write code to do  
things based on iso documentation, though I do have to say, the rfc  
documents are much better in this regard, I've had no trouble in many  
cases turning internet protocol documents into operational code.
But anyway, I just wanted to let folks know they can unzip ibooks, and  
examine their contents, just don't expect to get usable results most  
of the time. :)

hth.
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For iOS8 devs: a feature request for iCloud drive

2014-08-16 Thread Devin Prater
Hi all. I have a request for apps that do not natively sync with iCloud drive. 
Bard mobile is a great app, but with a 16 gb iPod, not all books wanted can be 
gotten for offline reading. So, people should be able to backup data from the 
app's documents list to iCloud drive, I'll just call it iDrive. So perhaps when 
a person goes to delete a book, if a setting for legacy apps as I'll call 
them, apps like read2go, which hasn't been updated in years, the system will 
ask if you wish to archive the file in iDrive for storage. Then, a folder will 
be created for the app's files in iDrive, and the app will be able to pull docs 
from that folder as if it were a native flash storage. Or, you'll be able to 
pull files back into the app when you want. That'd be better, as the app won't 
be confused why the doc isn't loading quickly, and the user won't either. 
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