Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can 
use VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and 
usually when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.

The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series 
phone you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good 
until you get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.




-- Twitter: JudeDaShiell


On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:


I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. Would it 
be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT keyboards to 
work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
8  etc have been sorted out.
Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-18 Thread Glenn / Lenny
There was one model, either the 5 or the 5S that had a recall on the 
battery, because of the poor life.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S


Jude,
I'm not sure what you mean when you say the battery life on the 5S is not 
good. I have a 5S, and my battery last me all day with pretty heavy use. 
Also, I have a for S, and the speed of the 5S is noticeably better than that 
of the 4s. So, I don't agree with you about them being no better than each 
other depending on the memory only. My experience simply does not bear that 
out.
I also don't know what you mean when you say that you can't use voiceover 
with a Bluetooth keyboard. Of course you can. If you couldn't, how would you 
know where you were navigating?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Jude DaShiell jdash...@panix.com wrote:

 You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can 
 use VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and 
 usually when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.
 The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
 The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series 
 phone you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good 
 until you get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.



 -- Twitter: JudeDaShiell


 On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:

 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. 
 Would it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT 
 keyboards to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
 8  etc have been sorted out.
 Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-18 Thread Mary Otten
Jude,
I'm not sure what you mean when you say the battery life on the 5S is not good. 
I have a 5S, and my battery last me all day with pretty heavy use. Also, I have 
a for S, and the speed of the 5S is noticeably better than that of the 4s. So, 
I don't agree with you about them being no better than each other depending on 
the memory only. My experience simply does not bear that out.
I also don't know what you mean when you say that you can't use voiceover with 
a Bluetooth keyboard. Of course you can. If you couldn't, how would you know 
where you were navigating?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Jude DaShiell jdash...@panix.com wrote:
 
 You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can use 
 VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and usually 
 when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.
 The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
 The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series 
 phone you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good 
 until you get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.
 
 
 
 -- Twitter: JudeDaShiell
 
 
 On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:
 
 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. Would 
 it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT keyboards 
 to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
 8  etc have been sorted out.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-18 Thread Phil Halton
It was the iPhone 5 that was recalled. I know, because mine was just replaced 
on the battery replacement program. Oddly enough, the battery life on the 
replacement is not even as good as the one that it replaced. I'm going to use 
this iPhone five until the fall and see if they come out with a 6S. At which 
time I'll upgrade.

Sent from my IPhone


 On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 There was one model, either the 5 or the 5S that had a recall on the 
 battery, because of the poor life.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S
 
 
 Jude,
 I'm not sure what you mean when you say the battery life on the 5S is not 
 good. I have a 5S, and my battery last me all day with pretty heavy use. 
 Also, I have a for S, and the speed of the 5S is noticeably better than that 
 of the 4s. So, I don't agree with you about them being no better than each 
 other depending on the memory only. My experience simply does not bear that 
 out.
 I also don't know what you mean when you say that you can't use voiceover 
 with a Bluetooth keyboard. Of course you can. If you couldn't, how would you 
 know where you were navigating?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Jude DaShiell jdash...@panix.com wrote:
 
 You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can 
 use VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and 
 usually when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.
 The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
 The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series 
 phone you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good 
 until you get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.
 
 
 
 -- Twitter: JudeDaShiell
 
 
 On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:
 
 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. 
 Would it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT 
 keyboards to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
 8  etc have been sorted out.
 Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-18 Thread gs
I don't think the recall was strictly because the battery originally had a poor 
life. I think it may have been because its life decreased more quickly than it 
should have.
When I got mine replaced approximately a year into use, I noticed a real 
difference. I used it heavily enough that I needed to charge daily. I still 
needed to charge daily with the replacement phone, but it was a little better. 
I used that phone for an additional year before upgrading to the 6 Plus. The 
battery life is definitely much, much better with the 6 Plus. 
As an example, with the 6 Plus and a full charge, I can use BARD mobile for an 
hour and the charge still reads 100%. The 6 Plus seems to be really efficient 
at certain functions like playing audio.
However, there are certainly features of the 5S that would make me choose it 
over the 5 if I had a choice right now. The 5S processor is better and  
supports 64-bit and it also has a fingerprint reader.

I'm sure the replacements we were getting for the iPhone 5 were reconditioned 
so I don't doubt that someone may have gotten a battery that worked more poorly 
than the one it replaced. But for me, the replacement came at just the right 
time because I was starting to have to supplement my daily charge with a few 
sips throughout the day.

I can sometimes use the 6 Plus for two days and still have 40 percent or more.  
However, if I use GPS/location services, that is definitely not the case. As I 
mentioned, I think there are certain functions where the 6 Plus and probably 
the 6 as well are really very efficient. And there are other areas where 
battery drain is extreme.

But if I had a choice between a 5 and 5S right now, I would choose the 5S 
without a second thought.


On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

There was one model, either the 5 or the 5S that had a recall on the 
battery, because of the poor life.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S


Jude,
I'm not sure what you mean when you say the battery life on the 5S is not 
good. I have a 5S, and my battery last me all day with pretty heavy use. 
Also, I have a for S, and the speed of the 5S is noticeably better than that 
of the 4s. So, I don't agree with you about them being no better than each 
other depending on the memory only. My experience simply does not bear that 
out.
I also don't know what you mean when you say that you can't use voiceover 
with a Bluetooth keyboard. Of course you can. If you couldn't, how would you 
know where you were navigating?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Jude DaShiell jdash...@panix.com wrote:
 
 You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can 
 use VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and 
 usually when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.
 The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
 The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series 
 phone you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good 
 until you get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.
 
 
 
 -- Twitter: JudeDaShiell
 
 
 On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:
 
 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. 
 Would it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT 
 keyboards to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
 8  etc have been sorted out.
 Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-18 Thread Diane Bomare
Not true, on any point. 4s will probably not be able to run IOS9, but should 
mot be upgraded to IOS8, as it is sluggish, at best  
Bt keyboard must have quick nav off in order to write in an edit field. 

Battery life seems to improve with each iteration of the phone
 Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 18, 2015, at 08:35, Jude DaShiell jdash...@panix.com wrote:

You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can use 
VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and usually 
when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.
The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series phone 
you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good until you 
get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.



-- Twitter: JudeDaShiell


 On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:
 
 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. Would 
 it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT keyboards 
 to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
 8  etc have been sorted out.
 Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-15 Thread Judy Pryor
Many thanks the cheaper keyboard sounds fine.
Judy
On 14 Apr 2015, at 19:59, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 I use the BT keyboard by Amazon Basics and it works well. It cost under 
 £20.00 UK compared to an Apple BT keyboard which can cost under £60.00 UK.
 
 On 14/04/2015 09:26, Judy Pryor wrote:
 thanks Christopher I am so glad I asked peoples opinions.  Do you have any 
 thoughts about BT keyboards?
 Judy
 On 13 Apr 2015, at 19:53, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 If I was to upgrade, which I have no plans to do at this time, I would go 
 for the 5s at least, especially if the next major release of iOS is only 
 going to work on 64 bit devices.
 
 On 13/04/2015 11:27, Judy Pryor wrote:
 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for £80 is it much better than my 4S. 
 Would it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT 
 keyboards to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
 8  etc have been sorted out.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-14 Thread Judy Pryor
Many thanks for that, it makes sense.  I just find the iPhone 6 too large and 
slim.
Judy
On 13 Apr 2015, at 13:05, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would definitely buy a new or phone. The next version of the software that 
 comes out will likely only run on 64-bit devices, so your iPhone 5 would be 
 completely obsolete by the fall.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for £80 is it much better than my 4S. Would 
 it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT keyboards 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-14 Thread Judy Pryor
thanks so much Dane, it looks like a 5S for me.
Judy
On 13 Apr 2015, at 20:14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Hi there!
 
 I know people who had an iPhone 4S with IOS 8.x and found the performance 
 terribly sluggish.
 
 I myself have worked with an iPhone 5 with versions of IOS though not recent 
 versions, think I sold my iPhone 5 when IOS 8.1 was around and it worked well.
 
 if you're offered the iPhone 5 for 80 pounds then to me that sounds perfectly 
 reasonable.
 
 I'm now using an iPhone 5S having sold my iPhone, then upgraded to an iPhone 
 6 which I didn't like and then downgraded to an iPhone 5S which I do very 
 much like.
 
 
 
 On 13/04/2015 8:27 PM, Judy Pryor wrote:
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-14 Thread Judy Pryor
hI Glen, there is always 2 sides to every disision being a typical Libran I 
always find it hard to make up my mind!  I am thinking as my trusty 4s is still 
working I will upgrade when I have to.
thanks Judy 
On 14 Apr 2015, at 00:22, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 My son is using the 5 which I gave him, and he is happy with the 
 performance, and you know how kids are about social stuff and media.
 He is sighted though, so there may be a bit of difference in the usage 
 between VO users and non-VO users.
 The camera on an iPhone 5 as 8MP, which is good for OCR and Barcodes, and 
 the 5S camera is not really any better.
 For the price, I'd say go with it, as even if the update did not work, so 
 what, nothing says you need to upgrade.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 2:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S
 
 
 Hi there!
 
 I know people who had an iPhone 4S with IOS 8.x and found the
 performance terribly sluggish.
 
 I myself have worked with an iPhone 5 with versions of IOS though not
 recent versions, think I sold my iPhone 5 when IOS 8.1 was around and it
 worked well.
 
 if you're offered the iPhone 5 for 80 pounds then to me that sounds
 perfectly reasonable.
 
 I'm now using an iPhone 5S having sold my iPhone, then upgraded to an
 iPhone 6 which I didn't like and then downgraded to an iPhone 5S which I
 do very much like.
 
 
 
 On 13/04/2015 8:27 PM, Judy Pryor wrote:
 I have been offered an iPhone 5 for £80 is it much better than my 4S. 
 Would it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT 
 keyboards to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
 8  etc have been sorted out.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-14 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I use the BT keyboard by Amazon Basics and it works well. It cost under 
£20.00 UK compared to an Apple BT keyboard which can cost under £60.00 UK.


On 14/04/2015 09:26, Judy Pryor wrote:

thanks Christopher I am so glad I asked peoples opinions.  Do you have any 
thoughts about BT keyboards?
Judy
On 13 Apr 2015, at 19:53, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:


If I was to upgrade, which I have no plans to do at this time, I would go for 
the 5s at least, especially if the next major release of iOS is only going to 
work on 64 bit devices.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-13 Thread Dane Trethowan

Hi there!

I know people who had an iPhone 4S with IOS 8.x and found the 
performance terribly sluggish.


I myself have worked with an iPhone 5 with versions of IOS though not 
recent versions, think I sold my iPhone 5 when IOS 8.1 was around and it 
worked well.


if you're offered the iPhone 5 for 80 pounds then to me that sounds 
perfectly reasonable.


I'm now using an iPhone 5S having sold my iPhone, then upgraded to an 
iPhone 6 which I didn't like and then downgraded to an iPhone 5S which I 
do very much like.




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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-13 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
If I was to upgrade, which I have no plans to do at this time, I would 
go for the 5s at least, especially if the next major release of iOS is 
only going to work on 64 bit devices.


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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-13 Thread Glenn / Lenny
My son is using the 5 which I gave him, and he is happy with the 
performance, and you know how kids are about social stuff and media.
He is sighted though, so there may be a bit of difference in the usage 
between VO users and non-VO users.
The camera on an iPhone 5 as 8MP, which is good for OCR and Barcodes, and 
the 5S camera is not really any better.
For the price, I'd say go with it, as even if the update did not work, so 
what, nothing says you need to upgrade.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S


Hi there!

I know people who had an iPhone 4S with IOS 8.x and found the
performance terribly sluggish.

I myself have worked with an iPhone 5 with versions of IOS though not
recent versions, think I sold my iPhone 5 when IOS 8.1 was around and it
worked well.

if you're offered the iPhone 5 for 80 pounds then to me that sounds
perfectly reasonable.

I'm now using an iPhone 5S having sold my iPhone, then upgraded to an
iPhone 6 which I didn't like and then downgraded to an iPhone 5S which I
do very much like.



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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-13 Thread Aleeha Dudley
I would definitely buy a new or phone. The next version of the software that 
comes out will likely only run on 64-bit devices, so your iPhone 5 would be 
completely obsolete by the fall.

Sent from my iPhone

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[Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-13 Thread Judy Pryor
I have been offered an iPhone 5 for £80 is it much better than my 4S. Would it 
be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT keyboards to 
work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
8  etc have been sorted out.
Judy
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