Re: intel ppc emulation
I wish someone would pick up the Win32 port of Basilisk II. Lauri Pesonen has been unable to do anything with it for some time now and the guy doing the JIT version abandoned the Win32 version after releasing a couple of buggy binaries. There's plenty of new stuff that needs incorporating into a Win32 port. = Say hello to Juror #49. Yep, I'm on jury duty until the end of March. Gotta call in each weekend. Fun. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: intel ppc emulation
On 1 Mar 2004 at 12:36, Darren wrote: A fellow lister put me on to SheepShaver, a emulator by the folks behind Basilisk II Moi perhaps? ;) The B2 JIT contribution by Gwenole Beauchesne IIRC. SheepShaver is now vers. 2.2 as of last Wednesday. The official SheepShaver site is: http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/SheepShaver.html Using the rom-grabber from Basilisk on a beige mac produced a dodgy rom image (it was never built for ppc's). The tool, CopyROM worked well enough to get to a full desktop, unstable but workable. Speed is a little slower than B2, not much. This is something I haven't tried [as yet]. How about the [Classic Mac] software ROM files for iMacs? Any use? I see them on iMac install/boot CD's. Or are they an extra, and still require the ROM in hardware? My gut feeling is SheepShaver will work better on PPC Linux. Encouraging to see you getting this far all the same :) Ok, its a little off topic but not much, hopefully we will soon have a ppc emulator for win32 as good as BII. You're not alone in this thought. Cheers. Mike -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: intel ppc emulation
Michael Dawe wrote: On 1 Mar 2004 at 12:36, Darren wrote: A fellow lister put me on to SheepShaver, a emulator by the folks behind Basilisk II Moi perhaps? ;) The B2 JIT contribution by Gwenole Beauchesne IIRC. SheepShaver is now vers. 2.2 as of last Wednesday. The official SheepShaver site is: http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/SheepShaver.html Hi Mike Who else would put me on to such a project of frustration? Version 2.2.10 includes the ethernet hack for sheepnet, haven't got that far yet. Not found in 2.2.8 and below Using the rom-grabber from Basilisk on a beige mac produced a dodgy rom image (it was never built for ppc's). The tool, CopyROM worked well enough to get to a full desktop, unstable but workable. Speed is a little slower than B2, not much. This is something I haven't tried [as yet]. How about the [Classic Mac] software ROM files for iMacs? Any use? I see them on iMac install/boot CD's. Or are they an extra, and still require the ROM in hardware? I've tried the rom files from the 8.5 and 9.0 install cd's. The emulation docs state a 4mb rom file is required, the files from these two cd's are 1.8mb as is the rom update 1.6 found on version tracker or cnet. When these files are used in sheepshaver both cd's will boot, almost to desktop but the emulation will stop as a ObjectLibSupport error is displayed with a reboot button. The 7300 refuses to load a imac install cd but will load the rescue cd which does have a 4mb rom file, 9.0.4 though. If you would be kind enough to send me a 4mb 8.5 file I'd be grateful or one off a native G3. ;) My gut feeling is SheepShaver will work better on PPC Linux. Encouraging to see you getting this far all the same :) I'll try it on mdk-ppc but I've already got a happily working MoL install, it does suggest trying MoL's rom may work. MoL requires more direct access to the cpu and will not be ported to doze. The 7300's rom image will go as far as selecting the disk to install 8.5 onto before the emulation freezes. When using B2's hardfile its nice to get message telling me I'd be better off using ppc versions of ATM and one other. Ok, its a little off topic but not much, hopefully we will soon have a ppc emulator for win32 as good as BII. SheepShaver is rather unstable on my system. My feeling is the rom file plays a major part in this, with the right file some of the instability might settle down. I'll play with it a bit and dig through the forums, if I manage to boot a 8.5 hardfile I'll let you know. In summary it half works, its early days yet so its something to watch. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: intel ppc emulation
On 2 Mar 2004 at 13:11, Darren wrote: Hi Mike Who else would put me on to such a project of frustration? Version 2.2.10 includes the ethernet hack for sheepnet, haven't got that far yet. Not found in 2.2.8 and below Hi Darren My favourite test bed on many an occasion + vice versa no doubt :) Using the rom-grabber from Basilisk on a beige mac produced a dodgy rom image (it was never built for ppc's). The tool, CopyROM worked well enough to get to a full desktop, unstable but workable. Speed is a little slower than B2, not much. Was about to try the ROM dumping utility GetROM [shipped with B2 for win32] when I spied this in the GetROM read-me file: Please remember to boot your Mac with extensions OFF before attempting to dump the ROM image. Did you try doing this 1st? This is something I haven't tried [as yet]. How about the [Classic Mac] software ROM files for iMacs? Any use? I see them on iMac install/boot CD's. Or are they an extra, and still require the ROM in hardware? I've tried the rom files from the 8.5 and 9.0 install cd's. The emulation docs state a 4mb rom file is required, the files from these two cd's are 1.8mb as is the rom update 1.6 found on version tracker or cnet. When these files are used in sheepshaver both cd's will boot, almost to desktop but the emulation will stop as a ObjectLibSupport error is displayed with a reboot button. Is that ObjectLibSupportLib? or ObjectSupportLib? - I'm thinking you're meaning the latter. If so, get rid of it if you can from OS 8.x Extensions folder. It's not healthy to have around. The 7300 refuses to load a imac install cd but will load the rescue cd which does have a 4mb rom file, 9.0.4 though. If you would be kind enough to send me a 4mb 8.5 file I'd be grateful or one off a native G3. ;) I Wish I Were... extension of any use here? I have Systems 8.6 loaded on a G3 at the moment, not 8.5 tho' or 9.x. I'll try it on mdk-ppc but I've already got a happily working MoL install, it does suggest trying MoL's rom may work. MoL requires more direct access to the cpu and will not be ported to doze. Be good to see how it progresses. Mac PPC emulation on Intel shouldn't be too far away [I hope] even low-end 603 mac emulation would be nice. Now, I'd like to chat to u off list about my current Quake 1 woes if poss :) Cheers, Mike. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: intel ppc emulation
--- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi A fellow lister put me on to SheepShaver, a emulator by the folks behind Basilisk II, mainly for the BeOS platform and linux-ppc, Darwin, blah blah, ect. Linux-intel rpms or a csv connection can be found to make/install on i386 machines. So far I've installed ppc versions of 7.6.1 and 8.0 and have booted the 8.5 and 9.0.4 cd's, rom errors where my biggest problem so far. clip You mean there's some actual progress being made in emulating a PPC CPU on an intel box? = Say hello to Juror #49. Yep, I'm on jury duty until the end of March. Gotta call in each weekend. Fun. __ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
