good practice in list civility

2002-04-16 Thread Bruce Van Allen
At 1:01 AM -0400 4/16/02, Chris Devers wrote: On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Puneet Kishor wrote: sorry guys, maybe I'll lurk, maybe I'll leave, maybe I'll go back to my No no no, please don't leave. Please accept my deep sincere apologies for what I wrote. Chris Devers May I say that: 1. Chris'

Re: good practice subroutine coding in web context

2002-04-16 Thread Bill -Sx- Jones
On 4/16/02 1:01 AM, Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would feel awful if my rudeness made you or anyone else drop off the list. Please accept my deep sincere apologies for what I wrote. You guys are starting to remind me of the '97 Usenet flamewars... To add Perl back to this -

Re: good practice subroutine coding in web context

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 16/4/02 at 07:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill -Sx- Jones) wrote: To add Perl back to this - here: (Attachment is text - BBEdit txt.) Which Mailsmith 1.5.1 is telling me is corrupted and/or archived incorrectly. Any chance of a repost? Regards, Phil.

Rules Of Engagement (What the Hell is this List for anyway?)

2002-04-16 Thread ellem
Any list, newsgroup or human conversation will veer off course possibly towards absurdity. This is the nature of thought exchange. I lurk much of the time and gleen as much as I can from everything I read here. Seeing Randal hoping for readable code was... wonderful. That may not be Perl OS

Re: Rules Of Engagement (What the Hell is this List for anyway?)

2002-04-16 Thread Puneet Kishor
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 01:47 AM, Bruce Van Allen wrote: 2. Chris has promptly and forthrightly apologized; any further discussion that does not acknowledge this would seem inappropriate. I do acknowledge, it is very kind of you Chris. I commend that. I have also commended you on

Re: good practice subroutine coding in web context

2002-04-16 Thread Bill -Sx- Jones
=pod Any chance of a repost? Sure - it was small - it may need to be fixed because of mailing reformatting it; -Sx- :] =cut #!/usr/bin/perl -w require 5.004; use strict; use diagnostics; my $mailAdmin = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; # Send Reports to? my $mailProject = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; #

Re: Rules Of Engagement (What the Hell is this List for anyway?)

2002-04-16 Thread Chris Devers
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Puneet Kishor wrote: On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 01:47 AM, Bruce Van Allen wrote: 2. Chris has promptly and forthrightly apologized; any further discussion that does not acknowledge this would seem inappropriate. I do acknowledge, it is very kind of you Chris. I

Re: good practice subroutine coding in web context

2002-04-16 Thread Bill Stephenson
Geez, What a contrast of views. I was just thinking how very cool it was to see such a wonderful exchange on this list when I see this: this list is becoming nearly useless if os x is supposed to be its focus. snip Funny thing is, this list was started as a result of similar negative

Re: good practice subroutine coding in web context

2002-04-16 Thread Alex S
I agree with Bill. I mean, I'm new to the list, but consider myself a fairly seasoned Perl programmer on a number of platforms. I think most people will agree that Perl is a really cool language, but also a potentially dangerous one. It lends itself quite easily to what is generally

a new topic: DBI stopped working/force install with CPAN

2002-04-16 Thread PK Eidesis
in the hope of making a new beginning... I finally got mod_perl/Apache working per Randal's instruction. A few wrinkles have appeared since... 1. DBI (specifically DBD::mysql) has stopped working now. No error, nothing. Just nothing. Having read that things need to be compiled against each

Why this list is the Appropriate Form for what is best in perl

2002-04-16 Thread drieux
volks, let's step back and look and the common ground between two reasonably diverse groups - The sterotypical MacHead comes to the party with a 'user friendly, programmer hard' Graphical User Interfaced approach to products {

Re: good practice subroutine coding in web context

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 16/4/02 at 10:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill -Sx- Jones) wrote: =pod Any chance of a repost? Sure - it was small - it may need to be fixed because of mailing reformatting it; #!/usr/bin/perl -w [...] Many thanks, Regards, Phil. 1;

Re: Rules Of Engagement (What the Hell is this List for anyway?)

2002-04-16 Thread Alex Robinson
that other-list polluting bastard Well, seeing that my name has been dragged in to the mud by that macintosh-know-nothing Devers, I might as well chip in with my 2 units of $currency two audiences: [a] seasoned hackers that just see OSX as another platform to adapt [b] people exposed to

OSX Backing up ?

2002-04-16 Thread Bill -Sx- Jones
While this is likely a duplicate post, I thought I would resurrect it for discussion - # I am on a G4 laptop, so prepare mounting points... hdiutil eject disk1 hdiutil eject disk2 # Make a place to backup to... hdiutil create -megabytes 700 backupImage.dmg hdid -nomount backupImage.dmg sudo

RPC::PlServer

2002-04-16 Thread hcir
has anyone gotten this module to install? i am getting the following errors: t/clientUse of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) at t/lib.pl line 30. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) at t/lib.pl line 31. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) at t/lib.pl

Re: a new topic: DBI stopped working/force install with CPAN

2002-04-16 Thread Ken Williams
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 02:56 AM, PK Eidesis wrote: in the hope of making a new beginning... I finally got mod_perl/Apache working per Randal's instruction. A few wrinkles have appeared since... 1. DBI (specifically DBD::mysql) has stopped working now. No error, nothing. Just

Re: RPC::PlServer

2002-04-16 Thread Edward Moy
I used RPC::PlServer last year, and it worked just fine. That was the 0.2015 version. I just tried running it again, and even with Perl 5.6.1 (re-making it because of 5.6.1), it tested out just fine. I don't know about the current version...

Re: RPC::PlServer

2002-04-16 Thread Alex S
I've never tried this... but just curious... what on God's earth are you doing to try distributing computing using Perl? I assume that is what you are using RPC for. This Use of uninitialized error sounds like under the t subdirectory of your source code directory, it is using something

Re: RPC::PlServer

2002-04-16 Thread Edward Moy
I can't speak for hcir, but I did want to comment about RPC::PlServer and doing distributing computing using Perl. While speed is clearly not Perl's forte, it certainly isn't so bad as to be unusable. Before Apache, there were several Perl-based web servers, and they had the advantage that

get_statfs with Inline::C

2002-04-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
From the OSX admin mailing list, a little bit of code I wrote... Andrew == Andrew Shugg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew If you grok Perl you could use h2xs(1) against the .h files references Andrew in statfs(2) and then write your wrapper in Perl rather than C. (There Andrew are so many

Re: Rules Of Engagement (What the Hell is this List for anyway?)

2002-04-16 Thread robinmcf
And there I was thinking how lucky we were on OSX to have gotten away for the most part from the kind of radical posing and entrenchement that other perl mailing lists have. In bygone time this kind of posting would have had "NETTIQUETTE" somewhere in it's subject line. In short this list is

Re: CPAN and overwriting files

2002-04-16 Thread robinmcf
If you find the docs heavy going you can go here: http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/network/cpan.html the article walks you through the installation from the command line HTH Robin