Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-07 Thread Robert Dalgleish
I see the release of the PAR (Perl ARchive) format, as a parallel to the JAR format to handle exactly this situation. According to the two sentence blurb I saw before heading home this evening, a simple module inclusion allows the PAR files to be used as your include path. Tremendous savings

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-06 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 7:23 AM -0500 11/4/02, Sherm Pendley wrote: On the other hand, CB apps would be significantly larger as a result. I haven't compiled a 5.8.0 libperl.a, but libperl.dylib for 5.8.0 weighs in at about 1.1MB - and that's before including any modules. Also, the download for developers would be

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Pete Prodoehl
I remember using MacPerl and Runtime Builder (?) under pre-Mac OS X, and it seemed to work well. It bundled up MacPerl and any needed modules into a nice little distributable application. I'm assuming something similar would be done, where only the needed modules would be included? Pete

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Mah
On 11/4/02 7:23 AM, Sherm Pendley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm close to the 0.3 release, and I've been thinking about the question of packaging. [...] I understand that time constraints will limit what you can do, but I'd like to outline what I think the best solution would be. It would be

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Salvatore Denaro
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 07:23 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote: I'm close to the 0.3 release, and I've been thinking about the question of packaging. At the risk of starting a flamewar, I think Microsoft got it right with VB. The CamelBones package builder should allow you to build lite (use

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-05 Thread Bill Stephenson
I've only had time to glimpse at CamelBones and I've almost no experience with project builder, but I know that Sherm is getting very close to providing exactly what I want and soon I'll be riding his coattails. What I want is a way to deliver stand alone apps. If that means including a perl

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Rich Morin
SPVirtually everyone I've heard from wants to distribute standalone, SPdrag-n-drop app bundles. I want a Mac-like installation for end users. Either an installer or a drag-n-drop app bundle would serve, from this perspective. I also want to provide a way to let folks uninstall my app. Given

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Alex Harper
On 11/4/02 6:23 AM, Sherm Pendley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what do you think? sherm-- Personally, I think a full distribution of Perl built-in is perfect. In my environment we use Perl (Classic MacPerl actually) to distribute various utilities used for our build/version control process.

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 05:37 PM, Robert Mah wrote: On 11/4/02 7:23 AM, Sherm Pendley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm close to the 0.3 release, and I've been thinking about the question of packaging. [...] It would be wonderful if you could package multiple builds of app specific and

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 05:25 PM, Alex Harper wrote: Without going into too much detail, this means we are already used to dealing with packaging our own Perl modules into our (large) distribution. Well, whatever I wind up with will almost certainly be simpler than packing modules in