Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Janet Goldstein
brian pink wrote: My big question, and one I didn't see clearly articulated on their site, is why would you use this install? any takers? People would use ActivePerl for OS X for the same reason Windows users use ActivePerl: they need to execute Perl scripts for one reason or another but

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Janet Goldstein wrote: People would use ActivePerl for OS X for the same reason Windows users use ActivePerl Windows users use ActivePerl because Windows doesn't ship with Perl. they need to execute Perl scripts for one reason or another but can't cope with the

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Joel Rees
IIRC, I think I actually used CPAN on ActiveState's perl on MSWindows when I was doing perl on MSWindows several years back. I think I dug an old version of nmake up in Microsoft's support site or something, didn't have anything that needed to be compiled. I'm not a big fan of ActiveState

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Janet Goldstein wrote: People would use ActivePerl for OS X for the same reason Windows users use ActivePerl Windows users use ActivePerl because Windows doesn't ship with Perl. FWIW, ActiveState Perl is also available

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Joel Rees
On 2005.6.8, at 11:59 PM, Chris Devers wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Janet Goldstein wrote: People would use ActivePerl for OS X for the same reason Windows users use ActivePerl Windows users use ActivePerl because Windows doesn't ship with

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread John Delacour
At 9:41 am -0400 8/6/05, Janet Goldstein wrote: Even those who have the knowledge to build Perl from source, as I have many times, welcome the convenience of binaries. Also, ppm is somewhat easier to use than CPAN.pm. Amen to both. From Jaguar onwards I have probably done a dozen or so

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:38 AM, John Delacour wrote: To use the Perl that came with the OS, as Sherm recommends, is simply not satisfactory when important developments are happening within Perl. I recommended no such thing. I simply pointed out that a Windows user who wants to run a Perl

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Bruce Van Allen
On 6/8/05 Sherm Pendley wrote: On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:38 AM, John Delacour wrote: To use the Perl that came with the OS, as Sherm recommends, is simply not satisfactory when important developments are happening within Perl. I recommended no such thing. I simply pointed out that a Windows

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, John Delacour wrote: Why does not Apple update Perl through sofware update? As I understand it, the rationale is that a lot of things depend on the release of Perl that shipped with the system -- installers, startup scripts, periodic daemons, etc. If Perl were to be

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Lola Lee
David Cantrell wrote: John Delacour wrote: Getting CPAN to behave is also a black art. I wonder what you're doing wrong, then. I'm not the only one. There's a couple modules that I haven't been able to get to compile lately, such as WebService::GoogleHack, and I don't know why it's

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread David Cantrell
Lola Lee wrote: David Cantrell wrote: John Delacour wrote: Getting CPAN to behave is also a black art. I wonder what you're doing wrong, then. I'm not the only one. There's a couple modules that I haven't been able to get to compile lately, such as WebService::GoogleHack, and I don't know

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-08 Thread Robin
erm try Cpanplus maybe? I understood that Cpan was no longer being actively developed. Robin On 9 Jun 2005, at 05:43, David Cantrell wrote: Lola Lee wrote: David Cantrell wrote: John Delacour wrote: Getting CPAN to behave is also a black art. I wonder what you're doing wrong, then. I'm

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-07 Thread Chris Nandor
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Dubois) wrote: Today ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X. ActivePerl 5.8.7 for Mac OS X is now available for free download from: http://www.ActiveState.com/Products/ActivePerl/ And besides, ActiveState will make sure

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-07 Thread Joel Rees
On 2005.6.8, at 04:24 AM, Lola Lee wrote: John Delacour wrote: Very nice and most welcome, though still not as easy as the Windows installation. May I suggest that you include at least the configuration notes in the distribution. Once I had returned to the AS site and found the

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-07 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Chris Nandor wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Dubois) wrote: Today ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X. ActivePerl 5.8.7 for Mac OS X is now available for free download from: http://www.ActiveState.com/Products

Re: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-07 Thread brian pink
My big question, and one I didn't see clearly articulated on their site, is why would you use this install? any takers? - brian

RE: ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X

2005-06-07 Thread Jan Dubois
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005, brian pink wrote: My big question, and one I didn't see clearly articulated on their site, is why would you use this install? Some reasons I can come up with: * You want to use the latest maintenance version of Perl and not wait until Apple updates OS X. Panther ships