Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion
On Thursday, Oct 16, 2003, at 06:56 US/Pacific, Vic Norton wrote: I have recently installed Perl 5.8.0 on my iMac via PortsManager from DarwinPorts http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/. Perl 5.8.0 resides in the /opt/local/bin directory, and this directory is at the beginning of $PATH. Everything works well except that BBEdit seems rather confused. Any suggestions as to how to rectify this confusion would be appreciated. p0: have you set up a $HOME/.MaxOSX/environment.plist that would contain say: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE plist SYSTEM file://localhost/System/Library/DTDs/PropertyList.dtd plist version=0.9 dict keyPATH/key string /opt/local/bin:/home/drieux/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/ local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin/string keyMANPATH/key string/home/drieux/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/share/man/string /dict /plist This way the Aqua GUI would be launched knowing about your alternative directory structure. bbedit is probably picking up a 'default' path from the GUI when you launch it, hence would most likely be running the 'default' perl from /usr/bin/perl. p1: it is interesting that the 'run in terminal' option would be invoking an alternative version of perl... DUH! hold on, IF bbedit started with what it thought was the definition, then it would have invoked perl on the file perl your_file_here hence it would have been the /usr/bin/perl (???) version vice the 'first in the path found' version of perl. ciao drieux ---
Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 02:20 am, Doug McNutt wrote:
At 16:12 -0700 10/16/03, Ingles, Juan W. wrote:
I wonder: Is this because
/opt/local/bin/perl points to the perl 5.6 binary
or
5.6 binary path is hard coded in BBEdit
I don't have any /opt/local/bin/. None was created by the CPAN perl
5.8 install in July 2002
which perl
on the terminal will tell you what binary you are launching
It just says /usr/bin/perl and says nothing about what it links to.
FWIW (as the maintanier of the dports perl port) We deliberately do not
replace the system (/usr/bin/perl) binary. If you want to use perl
5.8.x via darwinports as your 'system' perl you should remove
/usr/bin/perl and replace it with a symlink to ${prefix}/bin/perl
(usually /opt/local/bin/perl).
I've been meaning to add a 'switch_perl' shell script similar to the
one used in freebsd to semi-automate this for those that want it.
Also, I've just updated the perl port to 5.8.1, with the previously
discussed fix for the DBD::mysql issues.
hth
Michael
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Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion
At 09:56 -0400 10/16/03, Vic Norton wrote: I have recently installed Perl 5.8.0 on my iMac via PortsManager from DarwinPorts http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/. Perl 5.8.0 resides in the /opt/local/bin directory, and this directory is at the beginning of $PATH. Everything works well except that BBEdit seems rather confused. BBEdit is almost surely executing perl 5.6 and it's probably because of a hard coded path. I had 5.8 running, with some difficulty, over a year ago from the CPAN distribution and it is in /opt/. But I had to remove 5.6 from the other directories. It was an interesting experience while I learned about gzip and tar to preserve my options. You'll be OK after that so long as the link in /usr/bin/perl points to the new version. Some have complained about Apple's installer requiring the old perl 5.6 but it has never bitten me. -- -- There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't --
Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion
I guess there is no fix right now. But actually the bug is somewhat convenient. Now a BBEdit script starting with #!/opt/local/bin/perl -w # Perl 5.8 uses Perl 5.8.0 with its @INC list if Run from BBEdit and uses Perl 5.6.0 with a different @INC list if Run in Terminal. It's not all bad---though it is a bit confusing. Regards, Vic At 12:03 PM -0400 10/16/03, Bare Bones Software Technical Support wrote: There is a bug in BBEdit where run in terminal hard codes the path to perl as /usr/bin/perl instead of taking the other usual steps to choose which interpreter to run. I have a bug logged and this will be corrected for the next release. At 9:56 AM -0400 10/16/03, Vic Norton wrote: I have recently installed Perl 5.8.0 on my iMac via PortsManager from DarwinPorts http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/. Perl 5.8.0 resides in the /opt/local/bin directory, and this directory is at the beginning of $PATH. Everything works well except that BBEdit seems rather confused. Any suggestions as to how to rectify this confusion would be appreciated.
RE: BBEdit-Perl confusion
I wonder: Is this because /opt/local/bin/perl points to the perl 5.6 binary or 5.6 binary path is hard coded in BBEdit which perl on the terminal will tell you what binary you are launching ( not currently at my machine to check ) juan -Original Message- From: Vic Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion I guess there is no fix right now. But actually the bug is somewhat convenient. Now a BBEdit script starting with #!/opt/local/bin/perl -w # Perl 5.8 uses Perl 5.8.0 with its @INC list if Run from BBEdit and uses Perl 5.6.0 with a different @INC list if Run in Terminal. It's not all bad---though it is a bit confusing. Regards, Vic At 12:03 PM -0400 10/16/03, Bare Bones Software Technical Support wrote: There is a bug in BBEdit where run in terminal hard codes the path to perl as /usr/bin/perl instead of taking the other usual steps to choose which interpreter to run. I have a bug logged and this will be corrected for the next release. At 9:56 AM -0400 10/16/03, Vic Norton wrote: I have recently installed Perl 5.8.0 on my iMac via PortsManager from DarwinPorts http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/. Perl 5.8.0 resides in the /opt/local/bin directory, and this directory is at the beginning of $PATH. Everything works well except that BBEdit seems rather confused. Any suggestions as to how to rectify this confusion would be appreciated.
Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion
On 10/16/03 5:12 PM, Ingles, Juan W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder: Is this because /opt/local/bin/perl points to the perl 5.6 binary or 5.6 binary path is hard coded in BBEdit Would this be in a plist file for BBedit? C. which perl on the terminal will tell you what binary you are launching ( not currently at my machine to check ) juan -Original Message- From: Vic Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion I guess there is no fix right now. But actually the bug is somewhat convenient. Now a BBEdit script starting with #!/opt/local/bin/perl -w # Perl 5.8 uses Perl 5.8.0 with its @INC list if Run from BBEdit and uses Perl 5.6.0 with a different @INC list if Run in Terminal. It's not all bad---though it is a bit confusing. Regards, Vic At 12:03 PM -0400 10/16/03, Bare Bones Software Technical Support wrote: There is a bug in BBEdit where run in terminal hard codes the path to perl as /usr/bin/perl instead of taking the other usual steps to choose which interpreter to run. I have a bug logged and this will be corrected for the next release. At 9:56 AM -0400 10/16/03, Vic Norton wrote: I have recently installed Perl 5.8.0 on my iMac via PortsManager from DarwinPorts http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/. Perl 5.8.0 resides in the /opt/local/bin directory, and this directory is at the beginning of $PATH. Everything works well except that BBEdit seems rather confused. Any suggestions as to how to rectify this confusion would be appreciated.
Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion
On 10/16/03 5:12 PM, Ingles, Juan W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder: Is this because /opt/local/bin/perl points to the perl 5.6 binary or 5.6 binary path is hard coded in BBEdit which perl on the terminal will tell you what binary you are launching ( not currently at my machine to check ) juan -Original Message- From: Vic Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BBEdit-Perl confusion I guess there is no fix right now. But actually the bug is somewhat convenient. Now a BBEdit script starting with #!/opt/local/bin/perl -w # Perl 5.8 uses Perl 5.8.0 with its @INC list if Run from BBEdit and uses Perl 5.6.0 with a different @INC list if Run in Terminal. It's not all bad---though it is a bit confusing. Regards, Vic At 12:03 PM -0400 10/16/03, Bare Bones Software Technical Support wrote: There is a bug in BBEdit where run in terminal hard codes the path to perl as /usr/bin/perl instead of taking the other usual steps to choose which interpreter to run. I have a bug logged and this will be corrected for the next release. At 9:56 AM -0400 10/16/03, Vic Norton wrote: I have recently installed Perl 5.8.0 on my iMac via PortsManager from DarwinPorts http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/. Perl 5.8.0 resides in the /opt/local/bin directory, and this directory is at the beginning of $PATH. Everything works well except that BBEdit seems rather confused. Any suggestions as to how to rectify this confusion would be appreciated. I have now also found that running this command in Bbedit: print `which perl`; Produces the following error: MANPATH: Undefined variable. That is a very strange error to be produced by that command... I thought maybe it was a problem using the `` syntax to execute via the shell so I tried system() syntax, same results... I then thought maybe it was that bbedit choked on any system command but, print `echo test`; Worked fine... Very strange must have something to do with a hard coded environment in perl. C.
RE: BBEdit-Perl confusion
At 16:12 -0700 10/16/03, Ingles, Juan W. wrote: I wonder: Is this because /opt/local/bin/perl points to the perl 5.6 binary or 5.6 binary path is hard coded in BBEdit I don't have any /opt/local/bin/. None was created by the CPAN perl 5.8 install in July 2002 which perl on the terminal will tell you what binary you are launching It just says /usr/bin/perl and says nothing about what it links to. When I installed 5.8 I had to recreate the link for /usr/bin/perl manually and that fixed up almost everything but BBEdit 6.x was in vogue at the time and worksheets were brand new. -- -- There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't --
