Re: How to use git

2016-08-20 Thread Ian Wadham
On 20/08/2016, at 11:51 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > >> Any documentation we write should be written specifically for developers >> >> 1. who are accustomed to using Subversion, and >> 2. want to translate *their MacPorts

Re: How to use git

2016-08-20 Thread Ian Wadham
On 20/08/2016, at 1:24 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: >> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:16 PM, Ian Wadham <iandw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> As a KDE developer (and spectator of the changeover from svn to git) I have >> found >> this cheat sheet very useful, but not quite

Re: How to use git

2016-08-19 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi Lawrence, On 20/08/2016, at 1:24 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: >> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:16 PM, Ian Wadham <iandw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Qt and KDE moved from svn to git a while back. IIRC it was quite an effort >> for a >> few individuals

Re: How to use git

2016-08-19 Thread Ian Wadham
On 20/08/2016, at 11:49 AM, Mark Anderson wrote: > I use git (and Github Enterprise) in my day to day work. I can help out. > > Another good (free (as in beer)) client is SourceTree > https://www.sourcetreeapp.com/ Qt and KDE moved from svn to git a while back. IIRC it was quite an effort

Re: [KDE/Mac] KDE4/KF5 "cohabitation"

2016-01-06 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi René and Nicolas and everybody, On 07/01/2016, at 1:44 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > I'm sure you've noticed that I'm making progress with ports for KF5. Yep. Good on yer, René! And it is nice to see that David Faure and other KDE core developers are taking an interest at last... > KF5 is

Re: New Mac OS Forge administrator

2015-11-20 Thread Ian Wadham
On 21/11/2015, at 7:15 AM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > Bam, confidence restored! Congratulations, Ryan! It is great to know that you will be the person handling this important job. I hope you will still find some time to answer queries on the list or that someone else will step into your shoes.

Re: Looking for opinions on authorization frameworks for Pallet

2015-08-05 Thread Ian Wadham
On 06/08/2015, at 4:14 AM, Kyle Sammons wrote: Hey everyone, Currently I'm at a fork in the road for the Revitalizing Pallet GSoC project, and was hoping to crowd source some ideas about how to deal with the Apple authorization framework used to get super user privileges to allow 'port'

Re: GSoC Project: Revitalizing Pallet

2015-06-01 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi Kyle, On 02/06/2015, at 11:15 AM, Kyle Sammons wrote: Ian wrote: Well, Kyle, if you are interested, I could send you the code of Fossick and a specification/design document. You would be welcome to re-use any of it or any of the ideas contained in it Thanks for the offer, Ian! I'm

Re: GSoC Project: Revitalizing Pallet

2015-05-28 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi Kyle, On 07/05/2015, at 8:14 AM, Kyle Sammons wrote: My name's Kyle Sammons and I've been accepted into this years GSoC. I was also a GSoC participant for MacPorts last year working on Project Clean-up Stuff, which created the port doctor and port reclaim commands. I had been hoping to

Re: [KDE/Mac] QSP - we're getting somewhere?

2015-03-13 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi René, Well, I think we really are (getting somewhere). Keep pushing! :-) On 12/03/2015, at 5:44 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: Not that it's getting any easier to convince the powers that be what *I* think will be ideal for the QStandardPaths in port:qt5-mac, but at least I seem to have

Re: [KDE/Mac] Cross-platform with kdeinit5, klauncher5, kded5 and friends

2015-02-11 Thread Ian Wadham
On 12/02/2015, at 10:34 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:31 PM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: I take that to mean that doing fork() doesn't oblige you to do an exec() afterwards, it's that you cannot do a fork() from a process that's not been started through exec.

Re: ~/.macports

2015-02-10 Thread Ian Wadham
On 10/02/2015, at 9:37 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: On Tuesday February 10 2015 21:08:18 Ian Wadham wrote: Hi Ian, Taking this to macports-dev... As I said, my ~/.macports on my Mac appears to be unused since november 2013 or so. However, the tiny test install I have on my Linux

Re: ~/.macports

2015-02-10 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, I am the person who has this problem --- about 3 Gb of stuff in ~/.macports and a Time Machine that goes berserk, running mtmd [1] at about 90% CPU during port clean for example. I have had to turn Time Machine off. On 10/02/2015, at 10:47 PM, Clemens Lang wrote: - On 10 Feb,

An odd port

2015-01-11 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, Is there a good reason why we have the yersinia port on MacPorts? Please read the description in full. Best regards, Ian W. ___ macports-dev mailing list macports-dev@lists.macosforge.org

Re: An odd port

2015-01-11 Thread Ian Wadham
On 12/01/2015, at 8:30 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote: - On 11 Jan, 2015, at 22:21, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a good reason why we have the yersinia port on MacPorts? Please read the description

Re: (un)setting environment variables from a Portfile

2015-01-11 Thread Ian Wadham
In case anyone does not already know, QTDIR is an env variable a developer can use when developing software based on Qt or a development (test, non-standard) version of Qt. I always export QTDIR=/opt/local when I am developing or building with a bleeding-edge version of KDE libraries, externally

Re: (un)setting environment variables from a Portfile

2015-01-11 Thread Ian Wadham
On 12/01/2015, at 9:47 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: Ultimately you'll have /opt/local/libexec/qt4 and /opt/local/libexec/qt5 (and who knows, qt6 too). There really is no reason to worry. People on Linux have been going through those same motions for quite a while now. OK. Thanks for

Re: [KDE/Mac] kshareddatacache_p.h forcibly avoids defining KSDC_THREAD_PROCESS_SHARED_SUPPORTED

2015-01-08 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi René, On 09/01/2015, at 1:00 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: A remark about OS X not providing posix_fallocate led me to browse kshareddatacache_p.h (because posix_fallocate can be emulated), and therein I noticed #if defined(_POSIX_THREAD_PROCESS_SHARED) ((_POSIX_THREAD_PROCESS_SHARED

Re: setuuid/setguuid

2014-12-24 Thread Ian Wadham
On 24/12/2014, at 9:27 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: On Wednesday December 24 2014 21:16:54 Ian Wadham wrote: The code always seems to work OK if the crash procedure in the failed program starts Dr Konqi by forking. But it never works (on Apple OS X) if the crash procedure contacts

Re: setuuid/setguuid

2014-12-23 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi Clemens, On 23/12/2014, at 11:33 PM, Clemens Lang wrote: - On 23 Dec, 2014, at 13:02, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, OS X no longer allows setuuid/setguuid, or only under some conditions. Isn't that something that ought to be addressed in the post-destroot? I'd vote

Re: co-installable qt4-mac and qt5-mac step1 : qt4-mac +concurrent

2014-12-19 Thread Ian Wadham
On 15/12/2014, at 9:46 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: 'evening! I finally got around to finishing up (or almost) my draft version for a qt4-mac port that can live alongside other (future) Qt port versions installed with the same approach: see https://trac.macports.org/ticket/46238 .

Re: Registry schema cleanup

2014-11-18 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, On 19/11/2014, at 9:34 AM, Joshua Root wrote: On 2014-11-19 06:48 , Clemens Lang wrote: I'd like to clean up the database schema of the registry. We have a couple of fields in there that are currently unused, as well as a few possible indices that could improve performance and at

Re: Database Browser 3.4.0 for SQLite

2014-11-04 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi Bradley, On 05/11/2014, at 5:26 AM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Andrea D'Amore and.dam...@macports.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/11/2014, at 5:23 AM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: A nice SQlite GUI app: https

Re: Database Browser 3.4.0 for SQLite

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Wadham
On 01/11/2014, at 5:23 AM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: A nice SQlite GUI app: https://github.com/sqlitebrowser/sqlitebrowser/releases Don't we already have sqlitedbrowser in MacPorts? Apart from the d, what is the difference? Cheers, Ian W. ___

Re: [127391] trunk/dports/kde

2014-10-27 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi Nicolas, On 27/10/2014, at 3:02 PM, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: On 27/10/2014 12:24, Ian Wadham wrote: Well, I just tried that and here is what happened… Tara:~sudo port install palapeli +debug --- Computing dependencies for palapeli --- Fetching archive for palapeli --- Attempting

Re: [127391] trunk/dports/kde

2014-10-26 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi Ryan, On 27/10/2014, at 1:13 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Ian Wadham wrote: On 27/10/2014, at 12:10 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Oct 26, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Marko Käning wrote: Ryan, any suggestions? My suggestions are: We try to avoid variant names beginning

Re: [127391] trunk/dports/kde

2014-10-26 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi again Ryan, On 27/10/2014, at 2:24 PM, Ian Wadham wrote: On 27/10/2014, at 1:13 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Ian Wadham wrote: Variants in MacPorts are global in scope, which means that variants like debug and also docs get applied to *every* dependency, back

Re: imake

2014-09-29 Thread Ian Wadham
On 29/09/2014, at 3:25 PM, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: On 29/09/2014 13:03, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: If I understood other discussions correctly, KDE3 is already being removed. Sorry, not discussions; recent commit

Re: Configuration and environment check command (was: Re: [124047] trunk/base)

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Wadham
On 05/09/2014, at 9:59 AM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On Sep 4, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Eric Gallager eg...@gwmail.gwu.edu wrote: Does it have to parallel selfupdate? diagnose works perfectly well by itself without the self in front of it... Of course it doesn't *have* to. But most of the

Re: Configuration and environment check command (was: Re: [124047] trunk/base)

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Wadham
On 05/09/2014, at 10:20 AM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On Sep 4, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: So why not checkself? Cheers, Ian W. Because it's not updateself, it's selfupdate. Well, I was also going to suggest updateself… : -) the logic being that port

Re: How to determine the dbus address on OSX/MacPorts OR How to make MacPorts-dbus work with non-MacPorts qt5-install

2014-08-22 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi David and Marko, On 23/08/2014, at 8:37 AM, David Evans wrote: On 8/22/14 12:41 PM, Marko Käning wrote: how can I determine the dbus address of the session dbus started by launchd? The environment contains only DBUS_LAUNCHD_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET: —

Re: Unable to launch Qt Assistant

2014-07-14 Thread Ian Wadham
On 15/07/2014, at 10:56 AM, Mark Brethen wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Mark Brethen mark.bret...@gmail.com wrote: I'm testing the FreeCAD build and discovered that the help menu returns the error message: Unable to launch Qt Assistant

Re: Question regarding +debug variant of KDE ports and qt4-mac

2014-06-29 Thread Ian Wadham
On 29/06/2014, at 7:52 PM, Marko Käning wrote: on the kde-mac ML the question came up whether the necessity to install qt4-mac in its debug variant - when one simply needs KDE ports installed in their debug variant - is only due to MacPorts' way of handling port variants... If that's

Re: Fixing KDE debug dialog and Dr Konqui to run on OS X

2014-06-19 Thread Ian Wadham
On 16/06/2014, at 4:15 PM, Clemens Lang wrote: On June 16, 2014 5:57:36 AM CEST, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/06/2014, at 1:38 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: The normal time you need such code is after a fork() and before exec() to avoid leaking file descriptors to a child that won't

Re: Fixing KDE debug dialog and Dr Konqui to run on OS X

2014-06-15 Thread Ian Wadham
On 15/06/2014, at 6:28 PM, Clemens Lang wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: The procedure for closing the file descriptors is a bit brute force. It uses struct rlimit rlp; getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, rlp); to find out how many open files the user

Re: Fixing KDE debug dialog and Dr Konqui to run on OS X

2014-06-15 Thread Ian Wadham
On 16/06/2014, at 1:38 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: Later the the FDs get closed anyway and it works then, perhaps because the app gets issued with a STOP. Unix closes all fd-s at process exit (including abnormal exit

Fixing KDE debug dialog and Dr Konqui to run on OS X

2014-06-14 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, I think I have found the reason for two KDE problems on OS X and MacPorts: 1. When a KDE app crashes, Dr Konqi often fails to run and produce the backtrace KDE developers ask for. 2. Also the debug dialog fails to run and take the user through the steps to

Re: Fixing KDE debug dialog and Dr Konqui to run on OS X

2014-06-14 Thread Ian Wadham
Thanks for your very prompt reply, Bradley. On 15/06/2014, at 1:03 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: The procedure for closing the file descriptors is a bit brute force. It uses struct rlimit rlp; getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, rlp

Questions re CI on Macports and KDE

2014-04-13 Thread Ian Wadham
Hello MacPorts Developers, As you may know, I am a developer of KDE Games working on Apple OS X Lion with an early-2011 Macbook Pro. I am here on a kind of diplomatic mission from KDE-land. But first a few words of background. KDE SC 4.13 is due for release on 16 April. Just over a month ago,

KDE usage of Clang has been fixed

2013-08-21 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, The KDE build-system developers have now fixed the problem with excessive symbol visibility (or invisibility in some cases), when Clang is used to compile KDE. The KDE build system, as of KDE 4.11.1, will have a section that recognises Clang and creates appropriate settings. Technical

Problem with KDE and Clang near to solution

2013-06-13 Thread Ian Wadham
It looks as though a solution to a problem compiling KDE with Clang is near. Apparently BSD has now changed over to Clang and found a similar problem, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313763 My original report was https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300429 KDE compiles and builds OK

Re: Compilation issue with qt

2013-06-05 Thread Ian Wadham
On 06/06/2013, at 9:02 AM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Nicolas Pavillon ni...@macports.org wrote: This error seem to appear because Qt forward-declares random_access_iterator_tag in qiterator.h in the part: #ifdef QT_NO_STL namespace std { struct

Please review first draft of Fossick - a MacPorts GUI

2013-04-20 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, The first draft of the MacPorts GUI app called Fossick can be downloaded from: http://www.filedropper.com/fossickclonetar by clicking a Download button or two, once you can find your way past all the ads. Does anybody know a better file share site? I'm a newbie at this stuff. If

Re: Please review first draft of Fossick - a MacPorts GUI

2013-04-20 Thread Ian Wadham
Hello Kevin, On 21/04/2013, at 4:28 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: I'm the competition here (http://www.codebykevin.com/portauthority.html), but since no one else has provided any comments yet, I'll offer a few. Thank you for being so chivalrous as to review my code. The app felt very sluggish the

Re: Please review first draft of Fossick - a MacPorts GUI

2013-04-20 Thread Ian Wadham
On 21/04/2013, at 9:43 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Apr 20, 2013, at 18:17, Ian Wadham wrote: On 21/04/2013, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: All three panes are empty; I can't figure out how to make it do anything. I am sorry to hear that. It probably means it has crashed somehow during

Re: Please review first draft of Fossick - a MacPorts GUI

2013-04-20 Thread Ian Wadham
On 21/04/2013, at 7:34 AM, Leo Singer wrote: On Apr 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, macports-dev-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: From: Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com Subject: Please review first draft of Fossick - a MacPorts GUI Date: April 20, 2013 1:54:42 AM PDT To: macports-dev

Re: Macports GUI (Fossick) - First draft nearly ready

2013-04-20 Thread Ian Wadham
On 21/04/2013, at 12:51 AM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: I am thinking of putting the tarball on Dropbox. Would that be suitable for list members to extract and review? I've never used dropbox, but I guess anonymous access should be possible there, right? Yes, Dropbox should be fine. Also

Re: Macports GUI (Fossick) - First draft nearly ready

2013-04-19 Thread Ian Wadham
On 18/04/2013, at 5:42 AM, mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote: if you haven't commit access to MacPorts' SVN server you could use github or bitbucket to publish your code. Thanks, Marko. I don't think I am ready to go remote with Fossick in git. Amongst other reasons, I do not wish to risk messing

Macports GUI (Fossick) - First draft nearly ready

2013-04-17 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, The first draft of the Macports GUI (Fossick) is nearly ready for its first push to a central repository. So far, it can retrieve an index of all ports, search it in a couple of ways, display information about a selected port (port info, port-file, file content list and dependencies),

RFC: Spec for Fossick (proposed MacPorts GUI)

2013-03-23 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, Attached is a pure-text file (made with vi), containing my ideas so far for a new MacPorts GUI. Comments, suggestions and reviews are welcome. It is intended to be a simple tool for first-time users (in Basic mode) and a more versatile tool for more advanced users (in Advanced mode) to

Re: Submission: klusters

2013-03-14 Thread Ian Wadham
On 13/03/2013, at 11:07 AM, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: That's interesting, because there was a discussion some days ago about keeping (or not) kde3 in macports after its deprecation. I did not try to install kdelibs3 for a long time (essentially due to the conflict with kde4), though. The

Re: user manuals

2013-03-07 Thread Ian Wadham
On 07/03/2013, at 7:03 PM, mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Ian Wadham wrote: I looked at the main.log for ticket 37620, but there is a lot of concurrency and it is hard… Concurrency?! I wasn't aware of that, actually. You must be. make runs parallel build streams

Re: user manuals

2013-03-06 Thread Ian Wadham
Hello Marko, On 06/03/2013, at 9:00 AM, mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote: On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Ian Wadham wrote: On 06/03/2013, at 1:14 AM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: * doc building used meinproc4, which routinely crashed and prevented installation (might still be a problem) Ah, I

Re: [MacPorts] KDE modified

2013-03-05 Thread Ian Wadham
On 06/03/2013, at 12:14 AM, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: I wrote it a certain way to try to emphasize the necessity of performing these steps, even though it may not have been the best choice of words. I corrected it to hopefully avoid confusion. Fine by me. Nicolas, are you happy overall with

Re: user manuals

2013-03-05 Thread Ian Wadham
, at 12:01 AM, Ian Wadham wrote: 4. Many KDE apps come with user manuals: should MacPorts install them by default? If no, I will add a recommendation to the Wiki to use the +docs variant. If yes, is there perhaps some more efficient way for Macports to provide them? I am unclear

Re: KDE instructions

2013-03-05 Thread Ian Wadham
On 06/03/2013, at 1:27 AM, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: 1. Do we need the kde-i18n- ports? As these ports are from the kde3 suite, I would say they are as relevant as any KDE 3 port. Understood. 2. Do we need the KDE 3 ports? /snip It seems there is indeed not much left which uses kde 3,

Re: user manuals

2013-03-05 Thread Ian Wadham
On 06/03/2013, at 10:15 AM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On Mar 5, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: My reasons for discontinuing the +docs variant in KDE ports would be: - It brings in additional dependencies needed by Doxygen but not by all end-users Most of those

Re: [MacPorts] KDE modified

2013-03-04 Thread Ian Wadham
On 05/03/2013, at 12:22 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: Unfortunately, MacPorts **does not provide an out-of-the-box working installation**. I'd almost leave that sentence out, and stick with the general these are the steps for doing ... in MacPorts. Those were Nicolas' original words and I

Re: KDE instructions

2013-03-04 Thread Ian Wadham
On 03/03/2013, at 4:28 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: This page is an excellent start, Nicolas! I have one or two points to add to it. Where do I find the wiki source? Can I edit it? Probably not. I do not have edit

Office software on Apple and MacPorts

2013-03-04 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, For as long as I can remember (well, back to Macintosh days anyway), I have been going into Apple dealers, including the current chain of Apple Stores, and seeing customers (including me) asking for office apps and being told to buy Microsoft Office for Apple. This is surely a

Re: KDE instructions

2013-03-02 Thread Ian Wadham
On 02/03/2013, at 6:25 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Mar 2, 2013, at 01:23, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: Following the discussion concerning the improvement of the display of port notes, I was also considering gathering the information for installing KDE ports somewhere. I noticed that while we have

Re: KDE instructions

2013-03-02 Thread Ian Wadham
On 03/03/2013, at 1:40 AM, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: I created a page (https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDE) with the information I thought relevant for now, and added its link to the main wiki page. As I do not consider myself a KDE expert neither a Macports one, some parts may be incomplete

Re: KDE instructions

2013-03-02 Thread Ian Wadham
On 03/03/2013, at 4:28 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: This page is an excellent start, Nicolas! I have one or two points to add to it. Where do I find the wiki source? Can I edit it? Probably not. I do not have edit

Re: Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-20 Thread Ian Wadham
On 20/02/2013, at 11:43 AM, Jordan Hubbard wrote: On Feb 14, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote: The message classification currently happens through a handful of procs such as ui_error, ui_warn, ui_msg, ui_notice, ui_info, ui_debug. These add the prefix for errors and

Re: Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Wadham
On 12/02/2013, at 9:03 PM, Rainer Müller wrote: On 2013-02-12 05:29, Guido Soranzio wrote: On 11/02/2013, Ian Wadham wrote: I see that Cocoa has NSTask and NSPipe classes and that Guido's Guigna app is using them in its GuignaAgent class. I also like this approach because there is loose

Re: Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Wadham
, which will hopefully explain the state of the project. On 2013-02-10 10:59, Ian Wadham wrote: On 10/02/2013, at 8:11 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 00:39, Ian Wadham wrote: Should I persevere with Macports_Framework? What alternative do you propose? For myself, acting alone

Re: Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Wadham
On 13/02/2013, at 12:06 PM, Jordan Hubbard wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote: I heartily agree with you that wrapping basic commands is not enough. I particularly hate GUIs that wrap basic programming and then pass through base-level error messages

The new Guigna app

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Wadham
Hi guys, Here is something you might like to have a look at. On 10 Feb, Guido Soranzio posted here https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2013-February/021976.html about his new Guigna app. You can find it on GitHub at: https://github.com/gui-dos/Guigna and you can clone it

Re: Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Wadham
On 10/02/2013, at 8:11 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 00:39, Ian Wadham wrote: Should I persevere with Macports_Framework? What alternative do you propose? For myself, acting alone? None. Find something smaller and easier to work on - not Macports_Framework, Pallet or other

Re: Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Wadham
Hello Guido, On 10/02/2013, at 10:36 PM, Guido Soranzio wrote: On 10/02/2013, Ian Wadham wrote: Maybe there is scope for a simpler interface to Macports, such as running scripts and intercepting the output, but I have not looked at that. You can have a look at the sources of Guigna I

Re: Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Wadham
On 11/02/2013, at 4:51 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: On 2/10/13 1:39 AM, Ian Wadham wrote: Should I persevere with Macports_Framework? It's been a while since I worked with threads and concurrent processes and Apple's way of doing things, in Objective C, OS X and Xcode is all new to me. I enjoy

Is it worth persevering with Macports_Framework?

2013-02-09 Thread Ian Wadham
Hello everybody, I raised this topic on macports-users under the subject How to get a full list of dependents?, but it is undoubtedly better to discuss it here and under a proper subject line. I have been studying the source code of Pallet and Macports_Framework and doing a bit of testing of