Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-17 Thread Davor Cubranic
On 2014-02-12, at 3:50 PM, Art McGee wrote: On a related note, Homebrew is actually based on GNU Stow. It's basically a clone/ripoff with enhancements. If you're going to use Homebrew, then use it in the same way suggested for Stow, and install packages in your home directory, leaving

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Sterling Smith
On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:07PM, asllearner wrote: Sterling Smith wrote According to https://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#usrlocal you could try to rename /usr/local. MacPorts doesn't install anything to /usr/local. If there is anything that stops working, then try to install it from

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Mark Anderson
I also install into /opt/something where something expands to something descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs on and off depending. This is really important for playing with things like the gtk+ cocoa that needs its whole space to itself. Just DONT use /opt or

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Gregory Shenaut
On Feb 14, 2014, at 08:46 , Mark Anderson e...@emer.net wrote: I also install into /opt/something where something expands to something descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs on and off depending. This is really important for playing with things like the

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:56, Gregory Shenaut wrote: On Feb 14, 2014, at 08:46 , Mark Anderson wrote: I also install into /opt/something where something expands to something descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs on and off depending. This is really

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Gregory Shenaut gkshen...@ucdavis.eduwrote: I've been reluctant to use anything under /opt because in the event I ever need to scrub macports and start over, it's easier to remove /opt and reinstall macports from scratch. Other third party software uses /opt

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-13 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, So let's be a little more specific. You are saying that it's /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib that are the problem, not /usr/local/bin, right? Otherwise you're saying that, for example, MacPorts is incompatible with BBEdit (which puts symlinks in /usr/local/bin). Very few

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-13 Thread asllearner
directly, since it wasn't on the list archive when I loaded it) so all should be well, though of course, now my original message has divided in th http://mac-os-forge.2317878.n4.nabble.com/Re-Where-should-non-macports-sw-be-installed-Was-Problem-with-Macports-homebrew-and-ghostscript-tt243935.html

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-13 Thread asllearner
and active. What would be the difference? How would this impact mapcports? -- View this message in context: http://mac-os-forge.2317878.n4.nabble.com/Problem-with-Macports-homebrew-and-ghostscript-tp243740p244031.html Sent from the MacPorts - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-13 Thread asllearner
of removing brew. The link talks about temporarily renaming usr/local while installing ports, i.e. if installation of a port runs into conflicts with usr/local. That is not quite my problem... -- View this message in context: http://mac-os-forge.2317878.n4.nabble.com/Problem-with-Macports-homebrew

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-13 Thread asllearner
using the homebrew version now be able to find it in macports, or is that magical thinking? -- View this message in context: http://mac-os-forge.2317878.n4.nabble.com/Problem-with-Macports-homebrew-and-ghostscript-tp243740p244033.html Sent from the MacPorts - Users mailing list archive

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-13 Thread asllearner
-os-forge.2317878.n4.nabble.com/Problem-with-Macports-homebrew-and-ghostscript-tp243740p244034.html Sent from the MacPorts - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Art McGee
My trick to having a harmonious multi-package manager system is to have a hierarchy, in which MacPorts is where the majority of packages are built, and the others are only used to fill in the gaps. For example, Free Pascal. MacPorts doesn't have it. I could spend the time creating a port, but I

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
You replied only to me. Remember to use the Reply All button in your email program to reply to the group also. I’ve re-added the group address to this reply. On Feb 12, 2014, at 01:37, macosforge.99.ky...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Thank you for responding to my query(not sure if this reply is

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Anderson
It's possible to get Fink and MacPorts to work together, although I don't recommend it. Before we had ROOT in MacPorts, my wife and I got this to work on her machine for Particle Physics-y things. Homebrew however, does not really work and play well with others. If you want to use it, you really

Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Gregory Shenaut
I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? Greg Shenaut ___ macports-users mailing

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Arno Hautala
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Gregory Shenaut gkshen...@ucdavis.edu wrote: I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? I

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Art McGee
I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? Actually, I don't think there is that much of a problem with installing software in

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, Actually, I don't think there is that much of a problem with installing software in /usr/local, the problem is the particular way that Homebrew does it by default, taking over /usr/local completely, and it's disregard for standard ownership and permissions. You're wrong on that one. The

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Alexander
--On February 13, 2014 1:24:57 AM +0100 Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote: If those binary installers did install headers in /usr/local/include and libraries in /usr/local/lib that has been pure luck. As soon as you install a port that has an optional dependency not installed via MacPorts

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Anderson
They've really started to run into the same problems that MacPorts solved long ago. Considering the their page title is Homebrew -- MacPorts driving you to drink? Try Homebrew!, I find pleasure in their difficulty. The only thing I wish we did that they do is git. But we don't forbid it, so eh.

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 12, 2014, at 18:24, Clemens Lang wrote: export MANPATH=/opt/local/share/man:${MANPATH} export INFOPATH=/opt/local/share/info:${INFOPATH} As far as I know those aren't used on newer versions of OS X and are automatically derived from the value of $PATH. As far as I know they are

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 12, 2014, at 18:46, Mike Alexander wrote: --On February 13, 2014 1:24:57 AM +0100 Clemens Lang wrote: If those binary installers did install headers in /usr/local/include and libraries in /usr/local/lib that has been pure luck. As soon as you install a port that has an optional

Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-11 Thread macosforge . 99 . kyoto
(I apologize if this message appears more than once; I haven't used the list in a long time, and I had some problem figuring out how I set it up the first time. I have tried a few times to post, but it has failed to appear...I think I was using the right address this time, though I also tried

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-11 Thread Art McGee
Based on some bad internet advice I appear to have installed homebrew without realizing it is not compatible (so to speak) with macports, and so I installed ghostscript via homebrew, without realizing that I had already installed it via macports, and that it appears to have been already

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-11 Thread Sterling Smith
Adding the list. On Feb 11, 2014, at 4:55AM, Sterling Smith wrote: Fellow User, According to https://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#usrlocal you could try to rename /usr/local. MacPorts doesn't install anything to /usr/local. If there is anything that stops working, then try to

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-11 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
You might want to rebuild your ports to ensure they did not link against /usr/local. This probably works for this purpose: sudo mv /usr/local{,-moved-for-macports} port echo installed port-installed.txt port echo requested and active port-requested-active.txt sudo port -f uninstall installed

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Art McGee amc...@gmail.com wrote: They keep their environment segregated from the rest of the system, and because of this, even though any MacPorts admin will strongly and vehemently advise against even trying it, they can work in concert with each other.

Re: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-11 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, You might want to rebuild your ports to ensure they did not link against /usr/local. This probably works for this purpose: sudo mv /usr/local{,-moved-for-macports} port echo installed port-installed.txt port echo requested and active port-requested-active.txt sudo port -f uninstall

Fwd: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-11 Thread Ryan Schmidt
Sending again from the correct address… On Feb 11, 2014, at 03:08, macosforge.99.ky...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Based on some bad internet advice I appear to have installed homebrew without realizing it is not compatible (so to speak) with macports, and so I installed ghostscript via