On 01/02/2013, at 10:10 AM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote:
I did sudo port install -k -s pallet and then started digging around in
the Macports directory structure for Pallet and some source code.
Eventually I found:
I am not having any success with that, Lawrence. There seems to
be nothing on the browser pages to check out or download code
and nothing about that in the browser's help page.
That's right: it's a view into the SVN repo.
What you're after is likely:
On 07/02/2013, at 1:58 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
I am not having any success with that, Lawrence. There seems to
be nothing on the browser pages to check out or download code
and nothing about that in the browser's help page.
That's right: it's a view into the SVN repo.
What you're
On Feb 6, 2013, at 20:56, Ian Wadham wrote:
Also, it is likely that I will have patches for Macports_Framework
and Pallet. At present they are cosmetic only, to fix such things
as compiler warnings in Xcode 4.6. So how should I proceed?
There is no maintainer for either port.
If you have
On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote:
I don't see how those two comments are connected.
It went something like this:
However, for me there is a learning curve to be climbed on Objective C,
Cocoa and Xcode. I don't know if I have the energy for that. I
On 01/02/13 08:36, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Chris Jonesjon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote:
I don't see how those two comments are connected.
It went something like this:
However, for me there is a learning curve to be climbed on Objective C, Cocoa
and Xcode. I
On 02/02/2013, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:
CLI does the job nicely and well, why on earth would you seek to make an
easy, automateable task hard/impossible.
Here are a few things that a GUI can do that the CLI cannot:
1. Filter ports by category. port
On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:45 AM, Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote:
However, for me there is a learning curve to be climbed on Objective C,
Cocoa and Xcode. I don't know if I have the energy for that. I will be
75 next month and I wrote my first computer program about 50 years ago in
* Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com [2013-01-31 14:34:06 +1100]:
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
Cheers, Ian W.
My feeling is that Macports doesn't need a GUI. Using the command-line
is part of the fun. When I got my first Mac I spent literally all
of my computing time on it using the
On 31/01/2013, at 2:53 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
On 1/30/13 10:50 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
Don't remember that one. Certainly not one that would ask for cash.
It's been around since 2005.
Interesting that you criticize the monetary aspect of it, however...doesn't
GSOC provide, um, cash
On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it has
definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
If I knew what tools to use on Apple Mac, I might have a crack
at it myself. I have had quite
On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote:
On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it
has definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
If I knew what tools to use on Apple Mac, I
On Jan 30, 2013, at 22:10, Kevin Walzer wrote:
On 1/30/13 10:57 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
One time funding (pay for a task) is (arguably) different than routinely
asking for money. We have had trolls in the past like that, simply feeding
off people.
Well, I don't think I'm a troll...for
On 01/31/2013 12:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote:
On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it
has definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
Back when it still worked (it wasn't updated for Lion or MacPorts 2.x),
Porticus was my favorite - it let one see port options (or choose them for a
newly installed port), let one do forced installs if needed, etc. Very little
I'd routinely do that I couldn't do through it.
Sadly, I've
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote:
If I knew what tools to use on Apple Mac, I might have a crack
at it myself. I have had quite a bit of experience with designing
and programming GUIs, databases, SQL, Shell scripts and an
On 1/31/13 9:27 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Or simply taking Qt, Tcl/Tk or any other cross-platform tool for GUIs
that works on Mac OS X (and doesn't require any special knowledge of
Cocoa if an otherwise motivated developer doesn't feel comfortable
writing in Cocoa).
PortAuthority is written in
On 31/01/2013, at 11:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote:
On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it
has definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote:
I did sudo port install -k -s pallet and then started digging around in
the Macports directory structure for Pallet and some source code.
Eventually I found:
On 01/02/2013, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:
One time funding (pay for a task) is (arguably) different than routinely
asking for money. We have had trolls in the past like that, simply feeding
off people.
Well, I don't think I'm a troll...for a long
On 01/02/2013, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it
has definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
If I knew what tools to use on Apple Mac, I might have a crack
On 1/31/13 6:11 PM, James Linder wrote:
CLI does the job nicely and well, why on earth would you seek to make an easy,
automateable task hard/impossible.
Here are a few things that a GUI can do that the CLI cannot:
1. Filter ports by category. port offers no way to see all the aqua
ports,
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Ian Wadham wrote:
I could write something in C++ and Qt, but that might cause a chicken
and egg problem down the line, i.e. to use the GUI you would first have
to install qt4-mac.
Such a program could be packaged as a standalone Mac application
(without any
On 1/31/13 6:11 PM, James Linder wrote:
CLI does the job nicely and well, why on earth would you seek to make an easy,
automateable task hard/impossible.
Also: a GUI can be automated as well. I've added an AppleScript API to
PortAuthority, for instance.
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On Jan 31, 2013, at 17:26, Kevin Walzer wrote:
On 1/31/13 6:11 PM, James Linder wrote:
CLI does the job nicely and well, why on earth would you seek to make an
easy, automateable task hard/impossible.
Here are a few things that a GUI can do that the CLI cannot:
1. Filter ports by
Hmmm, seems port has learned some new tricks over the years that I
wasn't aware of . :-) Kudos.
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On Jan 31, 2013, at 16:53, Ian Wadham wrote:
I did sudo port install -k -s pallet
Single-letter flags like -k and -s have no effect unless you put them
immediately after the word port.
sudo port -k -s install Pallet
I am unfamiliar with both Objective C and the Macports structure … :-(
On 01/02/2013, at 11:05 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 16:53, Ian Wadham wrote:
I did sudo port install -k -s pallet
Single-letter flags like -k and -s have no effect unless you put them
immediately after the word port.
sudo port -k -s install Pallet
Oops. That's what I
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/02/2013, at 11:05 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 16:53, Ian Wadham wrote:
I did sudo port install -k -s pallet
Single-letter flags like -k and -s have no effect unless you put them
immediately after the
On Jan 31, 2013, at 19:34, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote:
Interface Builder. It's part of Xcode.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_Builder
Thanks, Ryan. That looks good. It's not exactly lying around on the surface
in Xcode, though. FWICG, you have to use File-New… and ask
On 01/02/2013, at 11:04 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
Hmmm, seems port has learned some new tricks over the years that I wasn't
aware of . :-) Kudos.
Another thing a GUI can do is encapsulate tricks like that, which are not
easy to find in man port unless you know they are already there … :-)
On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Sean Farley s...@macports.org wrote:
I just want to point out that this is where having a gui that is open
source would really help: the responsibility wouldn't have to be
shouldered by just one person.
This is technically true, but GUI development is one broth
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Sean Farley s...@macports.org wrote:
I just want to point out that this is where having a gui that is open
source would really help: the responsibility wouldn't have to be
shouldered by
Hi,
I just want to point out that this is where having a gui that is open
source would really help: the responsibility wouldn't have to be
shouldered by just one person.
I don't see how those two comments are connected. Just because an application
is developed in Xcode, using cocoa etc.,
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Eneko Gotzon Ares enekogot...@gmail.comwrote:
To execute powerful commands (for MacPorts) in Terminal, can cause
negative side effects? (disturb the drivers of smart card readers, the
display adjustment, etc…).
All's fair for root --- this is why MacPorts
(Hm, do we have a paranoid mode where it makes an archive but doesn't install
it automatically, so one can inspect the archive before activating it?)
Likely either `port destroot` or `port archive` to inspect what will be
installed. Keep in mind, however, that a Portfile might dictate things
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org
wrote:
(Hm, do we have a paranoid mode where it makes an archive but doesn't
install it automatically, so one can inspect the archive before activating
it?)
Likely either `port destroot` or `port archive` to
That is exactly what I am thinking of; such actions are present as scripts in
the archive, are they not? I'm thinking that they can be inspected before
installing.
I know a copy of the portfile is kept in the registry and it is actually used
for deactivate/uninstall.
The copy in the
On Jan 30, 2013, at 13:49, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
That is exactly what I am thinking of; such actions are present as scripts
in the archive, are they not? I'm thinking that they can be inspected
before installing.
I know a copy of the portfile is kept in the registry and it is actually
On 31/01/2013, at 6:36 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Eneko Gotzon Ares enekogot...@gmail.com
wrote:
To execute powerful commands (for MacPorts) in Terminal, can cause negative
side effects? (disturb the drivers of smart card readers, the display
adjustment,
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote:
If you stay within that, you cannot affect any files in other folders,
even if they
are owned by you.
Not entirely true; do you know about ..? ~ / $HOME? Random scripts
very well might.
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On 31/01/2013, at 1:11 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote:
If you stay within that, you cannot affect any files in other folders, even
if they
are owned by you.
Not entirely true; do you know about ..? ~ / $HOME? Random scripts
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it has
definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
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On 1/30/13 10:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it has
definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI?
There are others...
http://www.codebykevin.com/portauthority.html
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Huh.
Don't remember that one. Certainly not one that would ask for cash.
Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote:
On 1/30/13 10:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last
year it has definitely fallen behind.
BTW, does Macports have a nice
On 1/30/13 10:50 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
Huh.
Don't remember that one. Certainly not one that would ask for cash.
It's been around since 2005.
Interesting that you criticize the monetary aspect of it,
however...doesn't GSOC provide, um, cash funding for the students chosen
to work on
One time funding (pay for a task) is (arguably) different than routinely asking
for money. We have had trolls in the past like that, simply feeding off people.
Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote:
On 1/30/13 10:50 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
Huh.
Don't remember that one. Certainly not one
On 1/30/13 10:57 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
One time funding (pay for a task) is (arguably) different than routinely asking
for money. We have had trolls in the past like that, simply feeding off people.
Well, I don't think I'm a troll...for a long time PortAuthority was the
only viable GUI
It isn't an attack on you: we have a page devoted to the specific instance I'm
referencing:
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/DarwinPortsFraud
Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote:
On 1/30/13 10:57 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
One time funding (pay for a task) is (arguably) different than
On 1/30/13 11:16 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
It isn't an attack on you: we have a page devoted to the specific instance I'm
referencing:
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/DarwinPortsFraud
Wow. I didn't know about the Paypal solicitations!
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