Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages? / problem with re-installing due to incomplete uninstall

2009-12-08 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Dec 8, 2009, at 15:37, Vlado Plaga wrote: uninstalled MacPorts as described in the documentation, reinstalled a new xcode and MacPorts, and wanted to first install DigiKam by simply saying port install digikam. This failed after a short time because the file

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages? / give Linux another try

2009-12-01 Thread Vlado Plaga
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:26:00 +1100 Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote: That's an orthogonal problem which affects source-based distributions as well. You are right, of course. There's no reason binaries couldn't be updated whenever the ports they are built from are updated. Also true. I

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages? / give Linux another try

2009-12-01 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Dec 1, 2009, at 15:45, Vlado Plaga wrote: Still it is a lot easier to just update a few Portfiles, compared to building and testing so many different binaries (and providing a server infrastructure so people can actually download these), Well, it should be architected so that the process

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-12-01 Thread Jasper Frumau
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote: On 2009-11-30 20:28, Jasper Frumau wrote: Well, but who has the authority to choose the packaging format? Whoever does the work, really. And how many base developers does Mac Ports have at its disposal at the moment?

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-30 Thread Jasper Frumau
Sure. The question was always what package format to use. At first (~2002) we discussed dpkg, but abandoned because IIRC at the time Debian preferred Apple to not use it. We held out hope for apkg, a more advanced/suitable Apple Package Format, but that didn't materialize. We've discussed on

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-30 Thread Joshua Root
On 2009-11-30 20:28, Jasper Frumau wrote: Well, but who has the authority to choose the packaging format? Whoever does the work, really. And how many base developers does Mac Ports have at its disposal at the moment? Hard question to answer meaningfully (beyond not a lot), but as a rough

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages? / give Linux another try

2009-11-30 Thread Vlado Plaga
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:54:55 -0800 Frank J. R. Hanstick tro...@comcast.net wrote: My current platform is a dualMPC-7448 (G4 model) which is still not a well supported cpu under Linux. Are you sure your system is still not well supported under Linux? I have been using Linux before I got my

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages? / give Linux another try

2009-11-30 Thread Joshua Root
On 2009-12-1 03:03, Vlado Plaga wrote: As today's mail from Joshua shows, there are just not enough contributions to MacPorts to even think of regular binary releases - especially if we'd like to have them for two or three versions of MacOS (10.4 to 10.6), with all their different

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-27 Thread Emmanuel Hainry
Citando Jasper Frumau : However, unless I am on a totally different page, you can make packages in MacPorts now. They seemed to work fine for me, on simple tests. I wonder why this is not popular or done then? If a port maintainer can make packages I would imagine - not an expert at

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-27 Thread Joshua Root
On 2009-11-27 19:12, Emmanuel Hainry wrote: Citando Jasper Frumau : I wonder why this is not popular or done then? If a port maintainer can make packages I would imagine - not an expert at all myself - I command could be introduced to install a package and choose the latest binary if need be.

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-27 Thread Jasper Frumau
I also wonder. Maybe it is not so popular with the base developpers. As far as I am aware, the base developers all think this would be a great idea. Feel free to implement it. http://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#whynotxyz The only missing code would be the fetching of those packages when

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-27 Thread Landon Fuller
On Nov 27, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Jasper Frumau wrote: I am not a base developer so for me this is hard to judge or comprehend, but is there not any open source code available used by other package managers or repositories that can be used to start a Mac Ports package manager project? Sure. The

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-26 Thread Frank J. R. Hanstick
Hello, One reason I chose MacPorts over Fink was that there were more ports available. That may or may not be true now because I have not used Fink in a while. Unless Fink had changed, there were still a lot of ports that came with assembly required. Not all ports came as packages. I

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-26 Thread Scott Haneda
On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:54 AM, Frank J. R. Hanstick wrote: One reason I chose MacPorts over Fink was that there were more ports available. That may or may not be true now because I have not used Fink in a while. I think it has always been the opposite, I could be wrong. But the best

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-26 Thread Jasper Frumau
I suspect a lot of other software is not this way, and one universal binary in package format would suffice. I agree and it would be nice to have one pre-made package of each port that could be installed using mac ports without the need of compiling. However, unless I am on a totally

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-25 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Nov 25, 2009, at 04:09, Benjamin Dahl wrote: I'm using macports for a while, but what I haven't understood yet is, why macports everytime needs to compile the packages instead of installing prebuild ones. I would love if it did it like fink or like apt on ubuntu. Would this be possible

Re: Why doesn't macports install prebuild packages?

2009-11-25 Thread Frank J . R . Hanstick
Hello, Wouldn't the problem be how many different packages would be on hand for different systems and how long each of the packages would need to be maintained? On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:22 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Nov 25, 2009, at 04:09, Benjamin Dahl wrote: I'm using macports for a