Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-17 Thread Davor Cubranic
On 2014-02-12, at 3:50 PM, Art McGee wrote: On a related note, Homebrew is actually based on GNU Stow. It's basically a clone/ripoff with enhancements. If you're going to use Homebrew, then use it in the same way suggested for Stow, and install packages in your home directory, leaving

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Mark Anderson
I also install into /opt/something where something expands to something descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs on and off depending. This is really important for playing with things like the gtk+ cocoa that needs its whole space to itself. Just DONT use /opt or

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Gregory Shenaut
On Feb 14, 2014, at 08:46 , Mark Anderson e...@emer.net wrote: I also install into /opt/something where something expands to something descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs on and off depending. This is really important for playing with things like the

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:56, Gregory Shenaut wrote: On Feb 14, 2014, at 08:46 , Mark Anderson wrote: I also install into /opt/something where something expands to something descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs on and off depending. This is really

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Gregory Shenaut gkshen...@ucdavis.eduwrote: I've been reluctant to use anything under /opt because in the event I ever need to scrub macports and start over, it's easier to remove /opt and reinstall macports from scratch. Other third party software uses /opt

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-13 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, So let's be a little more specific. You are saying that it's /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib that are the problem, not /usr/local/bin, right? Otherwise you're saying that, for example, MacPorts is incompatible with BBEdit (which puts symlinks in /usr/local/bin). Very few

Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Gregory Shenaut
I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? Greg Shenaut ___ macports-users mailing

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Arno Hautala
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Gregory Shenaut gkshen...@ucdavis.edu wrote: I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? I

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Art McGee
I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? Actually, I don't think there is that much of a problem with installing software in

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, Actually, I don't think there is that much of a problem with installing software in /usr/local, the problem is the particular way that Homebrew does it by default, taking over /usr/local completely, and it's disregard for standard ownership and permissions. You're wrong on that one. The

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Alexander
--On February 13, 2014 1:24:57 AM +0100 Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote: If those binary installers did install headers in /usr/local/include and libraries in /usr/local/lib that has been pure luck. As soon as you install a port that has an optional dependency not installed via MacPorts

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 12, 2014, at 18:24, Clemens Lang wrote: export MANPATH=/opt/local/share/man:${MANPATH} export INFOPATH=/opt/local/share/info:${INFOPATH} As far as I know those aren't used on newer versions of OS X and are automatically derived from the value of $PATH. As far as I know they are

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 12, 2014, at 18:46, Mike Alexander wrote: --On February 13, 2014 1:24:57 AM +0100 Clemens Lang wrote: If those binary installers did install headers in /usr/local/include and libraries in /usr/local/lib that has been pure luck. As soon as you install a port that has an optional