Re: macports-users Digest, Vol 122, Issue 2

2016-10-03 Thread William H. Magill
. . .  Launchd.info . . .

As best I can tell, since the site is not dated other than by copyright, the 
information at launchd.info was written in 2013, and has not been updated since 
then.

There are no references to any version numbers that I can find.

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A general upgrade question

2016-09-23 Thread William H. Magill
I have two systems, an iMac and a Mac Mini. 
The iMac doesn’t do much - mostly aspell, and so my update to Sierra went quite 
smoothly. 

The Mac Mini on the other hand, is a bit more of a workhorse. Primarily acting 
as a web server.
And, as I updated to Sierra, I discovered to my chagrin that I had been 
practicing —If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 
Evidently not updating any ports since I upgraded to El Capitan!
Oops.

To make a long story short. 
Instead of first checking to see what kind of updating I needed to do before 
tackling the new Mac Ports, I just went ahead
and followed the migration guide.
Everything went smoothly until I hit the rebuiild phase:  ./restore_ports.tcl 
myports.txt

This command itself worked well — what happened was that the rebuild through 
lots of warning errors.
Typically of the type:

Error: p5.16-perl-ostype has been replaced by p5.22-perl-ostype; please install 
that instead.
Error: org.macports.configure for port p5.16-perl-ostype returned: obsolete port

In investigating, I noted that the command:
>sudo port outdated
No installed ports are outdated.

But that this command:
>sudo port obsolete
Error: Unrecognized action "port obsolete”

That behavior seems to be a bug, but I don’t know the expected behavior.

At any rate, what I was attempting to do was generate a list of those obsolete 
and therefore failed installs
to make manual installation possible.

In particular, I’m assuming that there is a parent install which included these 
as dependencies, and that if I
re-installed that, it would pick-up all of the others. 
(I seem to have had a bunch of P5.16 modules installed, which should have been 
updated before I tried to begin the overall update.)

Is there an obvious way to find that parent?




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Re: macOS Sierra / 10.12 support - where are we?

2016-09-21 Thread William H. Magill
I’ve successfully updated to Sierra on my late 2010 iMac and installed Mac 
ports.
Currently waiting for the download to complete on my 2012 Mac Mini.

The re-install of Mac ports was delayed only by the inordinate amount of time 
it takes to download Xcode 8!

The actual install of the Mac Ports pkg was the fastest and cleanest install of 
Mac Ports I can remember over many years of working with Mac Ports.

Cudos to all those involved.


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Re: el capitan

2016-01-27 Thread William H. Magill

This is obviously "one of those important things" that Apple won't tell us about - or Fix 
- or tell "us" how to fix it.
If you scan the forums, it has been around for a while.
It is clearly related to Apple's security, nominally to the new "rootless" (or whatever 
its name is) environment, and "sandboxing."

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On Jan 27, 2016, at 08:38 AM, Mark Brethen <mark.bret...@gmail.com> wrote:

On el capitan I’ve noticed when installing ports messages in the console like 
the following:

1/27/16 7:31:48.671 AM sandboxd[116]: ([33785]) javac(33785) deny 
file-write-create /opt/local/var/macports/home/.oracle_jre_usage

Is this anything to be concerned about?
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Re: Wine Issue

2015-11-23 Thread William H. Magill

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Mark Hart <professor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm currently using wine-devel @1.8-rc1_0 on my mid 2015 MBP running 10.11.1. 
>  I like to run Notepad ++, WinVice, Windows Notepad, and a few other 
> applications under Wine.  Up until recently they have worked perfectly.  Now, 
> when running any of these, if I switch to an OS X application and then switch 
> back, they get the spinning ball of death and I have to force quit out of 
> Wine.  
> 
> Example:  I'm writing some code in Notepad ++, I switch to an OS X 
> application, copy some text, and then switch back to Notepad ++ all I get is 
> the spinning ball of death.
> 
> I have deleted my drive_c folder and allowed Wine to recreate it and then 
> install a fresh copy of my Windows apps to see if that solves the issue.  No 
> change.
> 
> I would estimate that this has occurred for the last few development Wine 
> builds.  However, I'm not sure if it is a Wine issue or a MacPorts issue.
> 
> Has anyone here encountered this problem?
> 
> Any suggestions would be welcome.
> 
> I apologize in advance if this isn't the place to post this.
> 
> Thank you,
> Mark
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1- Support for WINE is primarily based on the specific Application.
See:  https://www.winehq.org/help/

2- I don’t have see that problem with WINE as I don’t use it that often 
anymore, however, I see it constantly with OSX application to OSX Application 
in El Capitan.

Just today, I had Mail crash to the desktop while trying to address a message 
using a 15 person Contacts list.

I get the spinning-beachball effect CONSTANTLY now with El-Capitan with 
standard OSX apps as well as others.
To me it appears that it has to do with Apple’s memory management and its 
attempts to integrate OSX with iCloud.
Loading delays were bad with 10.10 and have gotten worse with 10.11


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Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-05 Thread William H. Magill
> I got tired of seeing that bloody spinning beach-ball… 

This spinning beach ball seems to be a FEATURE of El Capitan — having nothing 
to do with Mac Ports.

Everything causes it to happen.



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Re: Darwin Version

2015-10-09 Thread William H. Magill

> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Rainer Müller <rai...@macports.org> wrote:
> 
> On 2015-10-04 12:25, William H. Magill wrote:
>> As with the “success” above, the answer appears to be with the
>> Migration Instructions. The problem is that the visual queues given
>> by the “command indent and boxing” are much more emphatic than the
>> numbered items. i.e. the Eye overrides RTFM.
> 
> Thank you for your input. I tried to improve the Migration wiki page.
> 
> Please check again:
> http://trac.macports.org/wiki/Migration

I think that visually, the page is cleaner now. 
Changing the indenting makes a big difference.

>> Step one needs to be — download and install the version of MacPorts
>> appropriate to the new release found at the top of  the QuickStart
>> page, NOT “port -qv”!
>> 
>> Or put another way, the instructions on the QuickStart page and the
>> Migration page need to be better integrated. Step 2 in the Migration
>> Procedure is the key.
>> 
>> Maybe wording like:
>> 
>> "Reinstall MacPorts base. After updating the development tools,
>> install the base MacPorts system  for your new platform, either from
>> the appropriate installer (download it from the QuickStart section)
>> or from source.”
> 
> Users going to the Migration page should already be familiar with
> MacPorts itself as they used it on the previous release of OS X.
> I don't think they need the QuickStart anymore.

This is one of those yes and no answers.  Example.
I have not needed to visit the MacPorts WIKI since the migration to
Yosemite — I forgot. The link simply did not jump out at me.

> Similarly, the numbering of the Migration Guide is somewhat
>> confusing.
>> 
>> 2.a should probably be moved to 3.a and the rest of 3 renumbered
>> accordingly.
> 
> I don't understand that. 2a was the macports.conf update, which is
> closer to updating MacPorts base than reinstalling ports. I left this at
> step 2.

I was just trying to adjust the numbering scheme, but your solution is
cleaner.

> Rainer

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Re: Darwin Version

2015-10-04 Thread William H. Magill

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Jeffrey A. Singleton <gvib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As you can see…the very first command run as instructed by the so-called 
> migration steps shows the same error. Basically…nothing anyone has suggested 
> so far even remotely comes close to a solution, and the migration page is 
> useless. All of you making smart-ass comments, that seem to think you know 
> everything need to shut up and let someone that intends to help try to 
> provide a solution to the problem for the masses.
> 
> Since the ‘selfupdate’ process won’t let you upgrade MacPorts, and the 
> migration page assumes you are still using the same version of MacPorts, thus 
> will not work since Apple bumped the platform version to Darwin 15…a very 
> common step they do in almost every OS upgrade. It seems to me that 
> reinstalling MacPorts is the only way around this…
> 
> To reinstall from PKG, we need to assume the package was compile on an El 
> Capitan system so that the correct platform is used. Or if you are like me, 
> and compiled your own MacPorts from source, then all that should be needed is 
> to download the latest source and recompile…after backing up all the 
> configuration files in /opt/local/etc/macports first…then install.
> 
> Success!
> 
> After re-compiling MacPorts from source and confirming any custom 
> configurations were restored…the ‘selfupdate’ process worked flawlessly. 
> Following this with ‘port upgrade outdated’ - order is once again restored in 
> the world.

Ok, here is “my answer.” In updating two systems, the first one generated the 
14 vs 15 error, so I wiped the install and re-installed from the Mac Ports El 
Capitan QuickStart download.

With the second system, I started out by downloading and installing the El 
Capitan QuickStart version of MacPorts — no error message!  — Duh  . . . 

As with the “success” above, the answer appears to be with the Migration 
Instructions.
The problem is that the visual queues given by the “command indent and boxing” 
are much more emphatic than the numbered items. i.e. the Eye overrides RTFM.

Step one needs to be — download and install the version of MacPorts appropriate 
to the new release found at the top of  the QuickStart page, NOT “port -qv”!

Or put another way, the instructions on the QuickStart page and the Migration 
page need to be better integrated.
Step 2 in the Migration Procedure is the key.

Maybe wording like: 

"Reinstall MacPorts base. After updating the development tools, install the 
base MacPorts system  for your new platform, either from the appropriate 
installer (download it from the QuickStart section) or from source.”

Similarly, the numbering of the Migration Guide is somewhat confusing.

2.a should probably be moved to 3.a and the rest of 3 renumbered accordingly.

As with writing all such instructions, the baggage (experience) which is 
brought to the instructions by the person reading them is always different when 
compared to that of the person writing them. There is no one-size-fits-all 
solution. And sadly today, the primary technique is “post first” and re-read 
the instructions later.


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El Capitan changes for Mac Ports ?

2015-10-03 Thread William H. Magill
While doing the migration thing I noticed two items:

1- This might not be new, but with Apple Mail, “Reply” goes to the author of 
the comment, not to the list.
 “Reply All”  puts the Author on the To: line and the mailing list on the 
CC: line.

2- in the Installing xcode guide  - https://guide.macports.org/#installing.xcode

There is no instruction to accept the license — sudo xcodebuild -license

The first instruction should probably read something like: 

"Once you have Xcode installed, open a terminal, run sudo xcodebuild -license 
(for user-level acceptance) or sudo xcodebuild -license (for system-wide 
acceptance) as appropriate for your situation. Then run xcode-select --install, 
and click the Install button to install the required command line developer 
tools. Don't worry if you see a message telling you the software cannot be 
installed because it is not currently available from the Software Update 
Server. This usually means you already have the latest version installed. You 
can also get the command line tools from the Apple developer website.


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Re: Darwin Version

2015-10-02 Thread William H. Magill
y version 
of Unix(tm) from every vendor has had and has this release problem.

Some vendors mad “backwards compatibility a priority. Most did not — upgrade 
the OS, switch vendors, work cross-platform - you were on your own.

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Brandon Allbery <allber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Basically, if Apple cared they could make this stuff work. But they don't, so 
> migration becomes a major hassle.

This is the kernel of the issue. It is the implantation of the “Walled Garden” 
concept. 
It’s Apple’s way or the highway. They know what is best for you.
Pick your favorite snide remark.

MacPorts has done an incredible job of making these transitions possible - and 
yes I do mean making them possible. 
Without MacPorts, you would have to figure out why XXX suddenly no longer 
worked and then try to fix it all by yourself.
And that utterly ignores the fact that you would have had to have ported the 
software to your situation all by yourself.

Thanks for all the hard work!   — Now I have to go deal with the new captain. :)

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Re: selfupdate doesn't work

2015-03-02 Thread William H. Magill

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:53 PM, Jim Goudie jagou...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hello...  I'm running OS X 10.6.8 on a dual-core Macbook Pro...
 
 I've got Xcode 3.2 loaded from the snow leopard CD.  Software Update did not 
 find an update for it.

Xcode does not update -- it is a new version you have to search for it in the 
App store.



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Re: configuring phpmyadmin: why no table mysql.host for mysql56?

2015-02-14 Thread William H. Magill

 On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Would it be better instead to change things at 
 https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/PHP so that the code for 
 mysql_phpMyAdmin_pmaSetup.sql omits any reference to mysql.host but a note 
 explains what to add in case you're using an older version of mysql?
 
 On 14 Feb2015, at 12:09 PM, Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK, I recall that now. Thanks.
 
 I added a note about this to https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/PHP.
 
 On 14 Feb2015, at 12:17 AM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Murray Eisenberg 
 murrayeisenb...@gmail.com wrote:
 This gives:  ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist
 
 And indeed, that table does not exist. (I see this by executing mysql 
 commands use mysql; and then show tables; ; I see the same thing by 
 looking at database mysql in phpmyadmin)
 
 Why not? Should it not have been created when I originally installed 
 mysql56-server and executed mysql_install_db ?
 
 You are using obsolete instructions, it appears; the host table was 
 deprecated in 5.6.3 and removed from the default schema in 5.6.7.
 
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/grant-table-structure.html


PLEASE! -- JUST DO IT!! -- It is a Wiki after all.

I updated those instructions a short time ago because I was trying to install 
the MAMP trio, and the existent page was horribly out of date and all 3 were 
merged into one page.

I am no expert in any of the three, but nobody else seemed to be stepping 
forward to do the updating, so my changes have become gospel. Many of those 
changes were simply formatting changes and version numbers, not really content. 
Especially where the content was about something with which I had no experience.

Did I try them out -- yes, sort of -- it worked for me. --- or rather 
something worked for me! -- Was what worked correct?  I have no idea. The 
particular situation I was in has been working up to the point where I got 
side-tracked. I was planning on adding in MediaWiki and writing a installation 
page for that, but one thing has lead to another, and I simply have not gotten 
around to continuing what I was doing.

So, yes, please feel free to update that page so that it reflects your 
experience. That's what a WIKI is all about. When someone finds something that 
needs revising, they go ahead and do it.


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Re: can't start mysql56 after move datadir

2015-02-13 Thread William H. Magill
ACLs are not common knowledge -- Apple probably uses them more than any other 
vendor.

While ACLs (Access Control Lists) provide much finer-grained security than the 
old User/Group/Other (or Owner/Group/World depending on your background) 
technique, they take a great deal more THOUGHT and UNDERSTANDING to use 
effectively -- and to troubleshoot.

In the name of user friendly vendors have opted to avoid all the RTFM 
necessary for effective ACL usage. Consequently, so many things are simply 
wide open and not secure.

I have no statistics, but when I retired back in 2003, almost nobody used ACLs 
even though they had been around for several years. Looking at the ACL man 
page, it appears that BSD included them in 2002.  . . . and just doing some 
quick googles, it appears that posix.1e is still in draft form (since 
2000), but that is a whole different issue. :)

 On Feb 13, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 (I find it strange that while searching on-line for how to use a non-default 
 location for the mysql datadir, none of them mentioned such ACL manipulation 
 (all they described was giving _mysql ownership of the new datadir).

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Re: Not really MacPorts problem, I don't think.

2015-01-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:
 
 At 8:42 PM -0600 1/22/15, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 So launchd is launching apache too early. I believe there are some 
 keys one can use in a launchd plist that would affect when launchd 
 tries to launch a service. If you can find a launchd plist key/value 
 that fixes this issue, MacPorts could be enhanced to offer portfile 
 authors a way to use that key, or to use that key/value by default 
 even.
 
 I'm not expert, but would the NetworkState key help?  See:
 
 http://launchd.info/
 
 Goto Configuration, scroll down to ...Depending on Network Availability:
 
 We do have startupitem.netchange.

I'm confused.

The implication of startupitem.netchange :
Cause the daemon to be restarted when a change in network state is detected.
   
https://guide.macports.org/chunked/reference.startupitems.html

is different from NetworkState
Setting this subkey to true will start the job when/while any network 
is/becomes available. Setting this subkey to false will start the job 
when/while all network connections are down.
   http://launchd.info

And there is no indication on the guide.macports.org page as to what the output 
of startupitem.netchange might generate.

i.e. no translation between the syntax of launchd and startupitems.

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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread William H. Magill

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:29 AM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thursday January 22 2015 08:56:25 James Linder wrote:
 
 I cannot explain why a (normally) rational, sane thinking idiot did not make 
 that his first port of call (beautifully synced)
 
 Jan 21 00:04:34 haycorn kernel[0]: disk0s2: I/O error.
 
 Thanks everybody, and sorry for being an idiot
 
 I wouldn't immediately think about disk i/o errors either from the symptoms 
 you described (not for short freezes in anyway). Not with an hdd anyway.
 What's in your logs around those I/O error messages, and what do the 
 smartmontools (in MacPorts) tell about the disk's health? smartctl -a 
 /dev/disk0 and do run smartctl -t long /dev/disk0 (disabling disk spin down 
 for the duration of the test as that would interrupt it)?
 
 A bit too many reports of comparable symptoms in 10.9 somehow related to disk 
 I/O errors for my comfort zone. OS X wouldn't be doing something low level 
 that somehow stresses the disk hardware I hope?

Long ago in the days of Ultrix, there were some massive parts of the low-level 
disk-i/o that never saw the light of day.
(Ultrix from DEC being a direct BSD clone.)
None of the hardware level routines were addressed by any of the accounting 
routines. Made performance look good, but debugging impossible.

Performance was unexplaninedly lower than the new hardware predicted.
After a tremendous amount of effort on the part of numerous kernel programmers 
at DEC, they discovered that the bottom level BSD I/O modules had not been 
looked at (literally) since PDP days. Disk I/O was being done in 128 byte 
blocks.
The new hardware had 4096 byte tracks. 
Calculate how many I/Os were required to write a single track!
Increasing the basic block size dramatically cut down on the number of I/Os and 
their consequent overhead - performance improvement was dramatic.

One thing which I noticed immediately when I turned on iCloud disk in Yosemite 
-- the lag involved with launching any program which stored anything in the 
cloud.
Not unexpected, but significant none the less.

Similarly, I had a problem where my internal hard drive would literally not 
spin-up. 
Took the iMac in to the Apple Store and they ran their diagnostics and 
pronounced nothing wrong -- the tests passed with flying colors!

I finally convinced them that the drive was not spinning up and they got a tech 
to come out front who had a stethoscope and instantly verified that the drive 
was not spinning.

I've seen too many cases related to both BSD (and later Mach, i.e. NeXT and 
OSX) where much of the hardware level stuff is completely ignored by any of 
the upper-level reporting software. -- one of the main reasons why Drive 
manufacturers developed S.M.A.R.T. -- the OS does not do the job.

In my experience, by the time the OS flags a Disk error, you have been 
suffering constant performance degrading failures which are simply below the 
reporting threshold, for quite some time.


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Not really MacPorts problem, I don't think.

2015-01-22 Thread William H. Magill
I don't know what MacPorts can do about this one.

I have the MacPorts version of Apache2 installed.
- Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.29 OpenSSL/1.0.1k DAV/2 PHP/5.6.4 configured 

If I power-cycle my machine, when it comes back up, Apache2  has failed to 
start.

If I then try to load Apache2 -- it is reported as already running.

$ sudo port load apache2
$ Password:
$ /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/org.macports.apache2.plist: 
Operation already in progress

So I unload, then load and Apache starts with no problems.

What is happening is apparently a timing problem. I.e. it fails on boot, but 
works fine after OSX is up and running.

The error is simple -- 

[Thu Jan 22 02:17:12 2015] [info] mod_ssl/2.2.29 compiled against Server: 
Apache/2.2.29, Library: OpenSSL/1.0.1j
[Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest 
authentication ...
[Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: done
[Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [alert] (EAI 8)nodename nor servname provided, or 
not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of 
shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org
Configuration Failed

Shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org is the FQDN of the server.

ServerName is configured: 
 ServerName localhost:80

From trying to deal with the local host issue from before.


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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-20 Thread William H. Magill

 On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:28 PM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:
 
 G’day
 The other day I reported that gnuplot had suddenly stopped working with term 
 x11 but worked with term aqua.
 Maybe it was just slow !
 I have an issue where the system has (suddenly) become very slow …
 
 iMac 27 top:cpu free 99 ish %
 system-monitor also shows cpu cores at 0% busy
 men free 8G
 df 50 ish %
 yosemite
 
 change mail from one entry to another: wheel turns for 10-20 seconds then all 
 is normal including change topic (repeat previous selection).
 firefox:youtube watch a clip, midway stops playing and wheel turns for 5-10 
 seconds before resuming
 
 Thinking this may be a DNS issue I ran wireshark. wiresharks stops while 
 wheel is turning!
 
 system-monitor shows no (just got the wheel for 5 secs, no response to 
 usb-keyboard nothing interesting on system-monitor) sys-monitor (pause 
 again!) ticks every 5 secs even during wheel turning.
 
 This seems unrelated to macports. Time machine is on an external USB disk and 
 scheduled to run now (another pause checks:TM disk definitly NOT busy)
 
 So before I nuke this install, any ideas gratefully acceped
 James 
 ___

Sounds like issues with Anti-malware virus programs. 
The ones that insert themselves into your tcp/ip data stream to examine all of 
your traffic so that you don't' download bad stuff.

I had to shut off thtat processing in Sophos because it had gotten so bad (i.e. 
taking FOREVER to load any program that talked to the internet.)

That was a sudden change in how Sophos was working. At first I thought it was 
 simply because I had turned on the iCloud drive (which does impact things).
But after a lot of trial and no-luck turned off the option in Sophos.

Long ago I had tried Avast! and discovered that it's anti-malware was simply 
horrible in what it did to a Mac.


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MAMP and related how tos on the Wiki

2015-01-06 Thread William H. Magill
I have created new pages and significantly updated MAMP on the Wiki.

New pages:
* http://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/Apache2
* http://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MySQL
* http://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/PHP

Significant re-write: 
* http://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MAMP

Note that they have been written for the current versions of MacPorts 
distributions and do not address historical versions as there have been 
significant changes inrecent versions of both MySQL and PHP since the earlier 
document was written.

Please take a look at them and feel free to correct anything you find in error.


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Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread William H. Magill

 On Jan 4, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:34 AM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday January 04 2015 09:05:42 Brandon Allbery wrote:
 
 From the standpoint of DNS, localhost is fully qualified: it is not the
 short form of a name that is meaningful only in the context of a particular
 domain.
 
 AFAIK you need an entry in /etc/hosts in order for localhost to be defined, 
 no?
 
 BIND9 at least comes with a local zone definition that includes localhost. 
 as a name, with the usual mapping. That said, people *usually* get it from 
 /etc/hosts... *but* OS X is a little weird in how/when it uses the hosts file.

If one believes the contents of /etc/hosts -- OSX only consults it at boot time.

Historically, OSX loaded all of the various unix like plain-text information 
files into a database. 
 (NIS  maybe?)
I haven't played extensively with this sort of stuff since I retired back in 
2003, (Apple makes it so easy to forget)  but I assume that OSX (NeXTStep) has 
not gotten closer to UNIX(tm),  but continued on its divergent path.

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A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-03 Thread William H. Magill
Did Apple change something in Yosemite/Safari so that localhost is no longer 
an accessible DNS address for Safari?

I have no trouble ssh-ing to localhost on my system, but Safari always responds 
 Can't connect to the Server.

Note that at one time I was using Apple's Apache via OSX Server, but have since 
replaced that with MacPorts.
And, I have no idea if  localhost worked after I upgraded to Yosemite and OSX 
Server ceased operation.

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Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-03 Thread William H. Magill
On Jan 3, 2015, at 3:41 PM, William H. Magill wrote:
 
 Did Apple change something in Yosemite/Safari so that localhost is no 
 longer an accessible DNS address for Safari?
 
 I have no trouble ssh-ing to localhost on my system, but Safari always 
 responds  Can't connect to the Server.
 
 Note that at one time I was using Apple's Apache via OSX Server, but have 
 since replaced that with MacPorts.
 And, I have no idea if  localhost worked after I upgraded to Yosemite and 
 OSX Server ceased operation.

Interesting set of replies (below).

What triggered my query was the fact that various how to pages describe using 
localhost as a mechanic for testing certain web based services -- which did 
not work!
https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/Apache2
I'm guessing that the over-arching description that one can define ServerName 
localhost:80 is simply no longer an appropriate statement for OSX and 
Yosemite. And apparently for Apache2 in general -- it works and passes 
validation, but the results of its use are not predictable.

It also appears that the function of the ServerName directive has changed. The 
current Apache manual http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername
describes its syntax as requiring a FQDN -- which neither Localhost nor IP 
address constructs (127.0.0,1) really are.
(Apparently the directive is directly related to various DOS, Virtual Host and 
other DNS issues and is supplanted by the results from gethostname C function.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/dns-caveats.html

In short, it appears that the old localhost shortcut needs to disappear from 
the documentation. For no other reason than the fact that results from using it 
are not reproducible.

I hate documentation which states do X for result Y -- only to get result Z 
when you do so!

All of which is compounded by the fact that while Yosemite will work if you 
are not connected to the Internet, Apple has structured things such that 
Yosemite EXPECTS to be connected to the Internet, i.e the iCloud.

On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote:
 
 I experience the problem on Yosemite that localhost will randomly switch 
 between accessing the IPv4 address of my server (which works) and the IPv6 
 address of my server (which apparently isn't working). I've had to start 
 using 127.0.0.1 instead, which is the IPv4 address. This does not appear to 
 be specific to Safari; I saw it in the terminal with curl too.

On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote:
 
 You might try
 
 http://127.0.0.1/
 and
 http://[::1]/
 
 (IPv4 and IPv6 addresses for localhost - use https and a port number if 
 required)  If neither of those works either, it’s probably not the hostname 
 lookup (which is not necessarily just DNS, depending on how you’re 
 configured).  
 
 Safari should be able to look up localhost from other than DNS (/etc/hosts or 
 local OpenDirectory storage, I think) anyway..

On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Dave Horsfall d...@horsfall.org wrote:
 
 
 I've seen it in Firefox from time to time, when my MacBook's FF refreshes 
 itself against the pages on my FreeBSD server (which happens to support 
 IPv6 as well, but it shows in the Apache logs).

On Jan 3, 2015, at 8:00 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:

 I experience the problem on Yosemite that localhost will randomly switch 
 between accessing the IPv4 address of my server (which works) and the IPv6 
 address of my server (which apparently isn't working). I've had to start 
 using 127.0.0.1 instead, which is the IPv4 address. This does not appear to 
 be specific to Safari; I saw it in the terminal with curl too.

I had similar issues a long time ago already, already back in October 2006 I 
commented out the line with the IPv6 localhost address in /etc/hosts. I've 
never noticed any side-effects, and using IPv6 when you're behind a router that 
probably assigns addresses from a private netblock like 192.168.0.0/16 is 
completely unnecessary.

I've never tried, but it might be enough to deactivate IPv6 support in the 
Network Location settings if you prefer not to touch /etc/hosts.


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Re: Trying to create a portfile patch test repository

2015-01-02 Thread William H. Magill

 On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:46 AM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:28 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 File:///Users/magill/ports
 
 I'm pretty sure the URL scheme needs to be all lowercase; that is, file: 
 not File:.

Thanks. Didn't even notice.

I hate these editors that know what you want better than you do! :(



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trac.macports.org still down

2015-01-02 Thread William H. Magill
trac.macports.org went down sometime last evening  (around 2:300-23:30 1 
January) and is still down.




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Trying to create a portfile patch test repository

2015-01-01 Thread William H. Magill
I've been working the pages of the Howto - 
https://guide.macports.org/#development.introduction

Working step 4.6 - local portfile repositiory

[/Users/magill] magill 
 shianbrae ls -alsd ports
0 drwxr-xr-x  5 magill  staff  170 Jan  1 23:00 ports


[/Users/magill/ports] magill 
 shianbrae portindex
Creating port index in /Users/magill/ports
Adding port www/mediawiki

Total number of ports parsed:   1 
Ports successfully parsed:  1 
Ports failed:   0 
Up-to-date ports skipped:   0


[/Users/magill/ports] magill 
 shianbrae ls -als
total 8
0 drwxr-xr-x5 magill  staff   170 Jan  1 23:00 .
0 drwxr-xr-x+ 100 magill  staff  3400 Jan  1 22:42 ..
4 -rw---1 magill  wheel   655 Jan  1 22:33 PortIndex
4 -rw-r--r--1 magill  staff12 Jan  1 23:00 PortIndex.quick
0 drwxr-xr-x3 magill  staff   102 Jan  1 22:42 www

===failing test===

[/Users/magill/ports] magill 
 shianbrae port search mediawiki
Warning: Can't open index file for source: File:///Users/magill/ports
Warning: Can't open index file for source: File:///Users/magill/ports
Warning: Can't open index file for source: File:///Users/magill/ports
Warning: Can't open index file for source: File:///Users/magill/ports
mediawiki @1.23.2 (www, php)
The wiki engine used by Wikipedia


sources.conf contains:

# For proper functionality of various resources (port groups, mirror


# sites, etc.), the primary MacPorts source must always be tagged   


# [default], even if switched from the default rsync:// URL.



File:///Users/magill/ports
rsync://rsync.macports.org/release/tarballs/ports.tar [default]

=== The patch I'm trying to test==

more  mediawiki.portfile.diff
--- portfile.orig   2015-01-01 18:13:53.0 -0500
+++ portfile2015-01-01 22:33:12.0 -0500
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 PortSystem  1.0
 
 namemediawiki
-version 1.23.2
+version 1.24.1
 set branch  [join [lrange [split ${version} .] 0 1] .]
 categories  www php
 license GPL-2+
@@ -19,13 +19,13 @@
 platforms   darwin freebsd
 
 homepagehttp://www.mediawiki.org
-master_siteshttp://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/${branch}/
+master_sites
http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.24/mediawiki-12.4.1.tar.gz
 
-checksums   rmd160  7d3c986c9b0697f6550e461f2e7291b6270fc6e2 \
-sha256  
b99637ec5fdc78307aa745395170e56908a09dd816498736f5007294868344de
+checksums   rmd160  2ae8706ec248947a1da78f498f4991e81c55e1fb \
+sha256  
f240749d42dfa830d709be5d2be0503470538e19fd2bf1a7644c74fa8e503eb
 
-depends_run port:php5-web port:php5-intl port:php5-dba \
-port:php5-mbstring port:ImageMagick
+depends_run port:php56-intl port:php56-dba port:php56-mbstring \
+port:ImageMagick
 
 use_configure   no
 


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Re: MAMP issue -- Mysql 56

2014-12-26 Thread William H. Magill
I know next to nothing about the installation of MySQL, so I need some serious 
direction here.

In installing MySQL 56 via MacPorts, I find that the instructions imbedded 
directly in the port file differ materially from those on the MAMP page written 
for MySQL 51.
https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MAMP

Once the install completes, the next instruction on the MAMP page states:

# sudo -u _mysql mysql_install_db5

That is easily fixed by running the install program as installed by the port: 
mysql_install_db

At the end of that execution, the following information is printed:

==cut here
To start mysqld at boot time you have to copy
support-files/mysql.server to the right place for your system

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER !
To do so, start the server, then issue the following commands:

  /opt/local/lib/mysql56/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
  /opt/local/lib/mysql56/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org 
password 'new-password'

Alternatively you can run:

  /opt/local/lib/mysql56/bin/mysql_secure_installation

which will also give you the option of removing the test
databases and anonymous user created by default.  This is
strongly recommended for production servers.

See the manual for more instructions.

You can start the MySQL daemon with:

  cd /opt/local ; /opt/local/lib/mysql56/bin/mysqld_safe 

You can test the MySQL daemon with mysql-test-run.pl

  cd mysql-test ; perl mysql-test-run.pl

Please report any problems at http://bugs.mysql.com/

The latest information about MySQL is available on the web at

  http://www.mysql.com

Support MySQL by buying support/licenses at http://shop.mysql.com

WARNING: Could not copy config file template 
/opt/local/share/mysql56/support-files/my-default.cnf to
/opt/local/etc/mysql56/my-new.cnf, may not have access rights to do so.
You may want to copy the file manually, or create your own,
it will then be used by default by the server when you start it.
==cut here

1- the files referenced in the first instruction above are not identified -- 
neither their source location nor their destination.
One guesses that the source files is: 
/opt/local/share/mysql56/support-files/mysql.server
However, that file appears to be a generic start file -- which only needs 
modification if one does NOT use /opt/local.
But there is no indication of WHERE the right place is for a MacPorts 
installation.
If nothing needs to be done, a statement to that effect needs to be in MAMP


2- it appears that instructions to change the ownership/write permissions of 
/opt/local/etc/mysql56/ need to be included
for the my-new.cnf file or instructions to replace the my.cnf file included.
However, the chown instructions on the MAMP page appear to no longer be 
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A question about MAMP

2014-12-24 Thread William H. Magill
In the MaMP instructions - https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MAMP - the 
statement is made concerning Secure Sockets:

Secure Sockets (https)

This works for a development system (not recommended for production!).


My question is simple -- What does the parenthetical part of that sentence mean 
- (not recommended for production!)?



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MAMP - Step 3 - Install MySQL failing

2014-12-24 Thread William H. Magill
Is this an artifact of the rsync problems recently or does it need a bug filed?
===

shianbrae sudo port install mysql51-server
. . .
---  Building mysql51
Error: org.macports.build for port mysql51 returned: command execution failed
Error: Failed to install mysql51
Please see the log file for port mysql51 for details:
  
Error: The following dependencies were not installed: mysql51

The log file shows:

:info:build  #include my_alloc.h
:info:build make[2]: *** [do_abi_check] Error 1
:info:build make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_databases_mysql51/mysql51/work/mysql-5.1.72'
:info:build make[1]: *** [abi_check] Error 2
:info:build make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_databases_mysql51/mysql51/work/mysql-5.1.72'
:info:build make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
:info:build make: Leaving directory 
`/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_databases_mysql51/mysql51/work/mysql-5.1.72'
:info:build Command failed:  cd 
/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_databases_mysql51/mysql51/work/mysql-5.1.72
  /usr/bin/make -j4 -w all 
:info:build Exit code: 2
:error:build org.macports.build for port mysql51 returned: command execution 
failed
:debug:build Error code: CHILDSTATUS 70137 2
:debug:build Backtrace: command execution failed
while executing
system -nice 0 $fullcmdstring
(eval body line 1)
invoked from within
eval system $notty $nice \$fullcmdstring
invoked from within
command_exec build
(procedure portbuild::build_main line 8)
invoked from within
portbuild::build_main org.macports.build
(eval body line 1)
invoked from within
eval $procedure $targetname
:info:build Warning: targets not executed for mysql51: org.macports.activate 
org.macports.build org.macports.destroot org.macports.install
:error:build Failed to install mysql51
:debug:build could not read /opt/local/share/man/man8/tcpdmatch.8.gz: no such 
file or directory
while executing
::file type $file
:notice:build Please see the log file for port mysql51 for details:





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MAMP issue -- [MacPorts] #46318: mysql51-server fails to install mysql51

2014-12-24 Thread William H. Magill
There seem to be issues with the MAMP how to page -- I'll begin making some 
changes, but will need others to look at those changes.



 On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:43 PM, MacPorts nore...@macports.org wrote:
 
 #46318: mysql51-server fails to install mysql51
 -+
  Reporter:  magill@…|  Owner:  macports-tickets@…
  Type:  defect  | Status:  closed
  Priority:  Normal  |  Milestone:
 Component:  ports   |Version:  2.3.3
 Resolution:  duplicate   |   Keywords:
  Port:  mysql51-server mysql51  |
 -+
 Changes (by ryandesign@…):
 
 * cc: openmaintainer@… (removed)
 * status:  new = closed
 * resolution:   = duplicate
 
 
 Comment:
 
 mysql51 is old. Please use a newer version or fork of MySQL, such as
 mysql55, mysql56, mariadb, mariadb-10.0, mariadb-10.1, or percona.
 
 Duplicate of #45456.
 
 -- 
 Ticket URL: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/46318#comment:1
 MacPorts https://www.macports.org/
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Re: 2.3.3 build on Linux: results from `make test` (errors)

2014-12-08 Thread William H. Magill

 On Dec 7, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Daniel J. Luke dl...@geeklair.net wrote:
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote:
 It does not work for me from home in Texas however, because I cannot reach 
 the packages.macports.org server, and haven't been able to for weeks. There 
 seems to be a problem accessing that server from some networks. Shree hasn't 
 been able to figure it out.
 
 traceroutes from working and non-working systems would likely be enlightening 
 ...

I don't have any problems getting to macports.org, but recently I have  
frequently had issues getting to other sites.
But the problems come and go.(I tend to ignore, i.e. expect, the ones during 
the 4-7pm EST high traffic window.)
Almost like there was some sort of DOS attack taking place somewhere ... Sony 
maybe?

I'm on Comcast - 20 meg service.

From OSX's well-hidden Network Utility 09:30 EST 8 Dec 2014:

traceroute to packages.macports.org (17.251.224.218), 64 hops max, 72 byte 
packets
 1  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  0.495 ms  0.252 ms  0.164 ms
 2  174.60.244.1 (174.60.244.1)  33.376 ms  28.314 ms  19.857 ms
 3  te-8-2-ur01.elizabethtwn.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.85.42.61)  9.607 ms  
10.097 ms  8.154 ms
 4  te-1-3-ur01.montville.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.85.52.9)  8.322 ms  10.437 ms 
 8.372 ms
 5  te-0-4-0-0-ar03.lancaster.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.85.41.201)  11.479 ms  
11.631 ms  12.231 ms
 6  be-1-ar03.mckeesport.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.147.105)  17.516 ms  17.657 
ms  18.468 ms
 7  be-7016-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.91.25)  27.083 ms  27.415 
ms  24.763 ms
 8  23.30.207.94 (23.30.207.94)  25.203 ms  23.733 ms  22.017 ms
 9  ae-4-90.edge1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.199)  97.867 ms  97.165 ms  
98.497 ms
10  ae-4-90.edge1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.199)  100.140 ms  96.607 ms  
96.680 ms
11  apple-compu.edge1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.28.172.82)  97.842 ms  98.334 ms  
100.100 ms
12  * * *
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  packages.macports.org (17.251.224.218)  100.378 ms  99.777 ms  99.533 ms


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Re: MacPorts usage statistics

2014-12-07 Thread William H. Magill

 On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:32 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Marko,
 
 In a sense we'd need a survey of which KDE4 ports are installed and in 
 active use!
 
 On MacPorts you mean?
 
 Indeed.
 
 Well, there is Clemens' mpstats project [1], but the number of users 
 contributing is still very small.
 
 That calls for a bit of lobbying -- or maybe a survey how many MacPorts users 
 were aware of the port's existence.
 
 Not me in any case...

I must concur. I never heard of mpstats or what appears to be a related 
project.
(I also don't do LINUX as such, but am a retired OSF/1 - OSX SysAdmin.)

And now that I have seen it mentioned, If one looks it up in the list of 
Available Ports all one finds is one-sentence:
submit statistics about your macports installation

If one then Googles mpstats, Wikipedia tells us:
mpstat is a computer command-line software used in unix-type operating systems 
to report (on the screen) processor related statistics. It is used in computer 
monitoring in order to diagnose problems or to build statistics about a 
computer's CPU usage.

And the various other hits provided by Google imply a Linux CPU monitoring tool.

And just to confuse things: in 10.10, man -k mpstat yields:
snmpstatus(1)- retrieves a fixed set of management information from 
a network entity

Checking out the MacPorts wiki - https://trac.macports.org/wiki - there is no 
mention of mpstats. however if one uses the search entry on that page,
one does find: MacPorts Port Statistics Ideas (last modified 9 months ago.)

And then finally, when one does install mpstats, all one sees is:
Installing this port automatically enables weekly reporting of data to the 
stats server.  Uninstall
or deactivate this port if you want to stop providing data to MacPorts.

It apparently installs cleanly under macports version 2.3.3.
sudo port install mpstats
Activating mpstats @0.1.6_0

But no information/discussion on contacting the server beyond the initial test 
server --  
The implication being that this is not ready for prime time.

So, being a sucker for statics on stuff, I guess I'm user #52. :)

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Re: [KDE/Mac] MacPorts usage statistics

2014-12-07 Thread William H. Magill

 On Dec 7, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 - On 7 Dec, 2014, at 21:45, Marko Käning mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote:
 
 I didn’t imagine, that already 40% of the (contributing) users are on OSX 
 10.10
 and only 30% on 10.9...
 
 Interesting also, that 10.6 is still THIRD!!! :-)
 
 Please note that none of the graphs you see on this site currently have any 
 age
 cutoff, so they always represent the entire set of data that has been 
 submitted.
 Once a user has shown up in this data, it will never be removed. That
 significantly reduces the validity of the graphs. If anybody has a couple of
 spare cycles and wants to work on that, the code is in svn, in its development
 branch.
 
 As for making this more visible, I was thinking about not having a default and
 asking users to actively decide whether they want to participate or not. We
 might want to get the service migrated to MacOSForge's infrastructure (or not,
 given the current data protection laws and stuff that happens to your data in
 the US…), before we work on that, though.

In a follow-up to my earlier gee I never heard of this before post --

Looking at the FAQ on the server page: http://stats.macports.neverpanic.de/faq

I see a very excellent description of what and why.
This needs to be (at the bare minimum linked from the Support and 
Development link on the MacPorts home page.
i.e. an entry on the Mac Ports Wiki -- clearly under starting points a fourth 
bullet:

* Submit statistics about your macports installation

Why Do You Need Statistics?

We'd like to improve our understanding of how MacPorts and its ports are used. 
The statistics will help us determine which operating systems, build 
architectures and Xcode versions we need to support and test to provide a 
better overall experience for our users and less unexpected failures. The stats 
will also help us understand how quickly new MacPorts releases or port updates 
are adopted and how long we should wait before we can start using new features. 
The variant statistics will hopefully reveal ports where variants other than 
the default ones are popular choices and for which ports it might be advisable 
to test non-standard variants when updating a port, or even which variants 
should become defaults. We hope to use the variants data to build binary 
packages for non-default, but popular variants in the future.


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Re: You have a new notification from avijitshe...@gmail.com. View?

2014-12-01 Thread William H. Magill

 On Dec 1, 2014, at 4:49 AM, Dave Horsfall d...@horsfall.org wrote:
 
 On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 
 The second address you mentioned is not subscribed to the MacPorts 
 lists. The first is.
 
 Aha...  The old trick of steal a subscriber's address, and post to the 
 list using it, thereby spamming the list.  I haven't seen that for some 
 years now.

Yup. . . .

Actually the increase in SPAM started sometime in August or maybe July.l

I have been getting a ton of enlargement and similar adds again from 
icloud.com (mac.com, etc.) - which is my IMAP mail server. 

Iicloud.com  had been clean for quite some time until this summer when I 
started seeing spam again.  I just have assumed that this was an artifact of 
the fact that Apple's mail system (or maybe Target's or Home Depos's) 
apparently had a bunch of email addresses grabbed some-how back in the spring 
or early summer. Yes, the spam is all coming through with valid email addresses.
By and large the Yosemite mail client manages to flag them for me -- once I've 
retrained it for this new round of crap. 

The important thing here is -- this is all spam which Apple's mail server had 
previously prevented -- or otherwise flagged, but which is now getting passed 
that filtering.
I do get a lot of stuff hitting my junk box which is configured to trigger 
off either Apple's mail server's flags or on its own flagging.

In the end its one of those things -- SPAM is simply a very efficient (i.e. 
cost productive) way to obtain money from the great unsuspecting hordes of new 
users.
It's a thing in life that we just have to live with - learn to use the delete 
key!

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Re: {distfiles,packages,rsync,trac}.macports.org are back up (eom)

2014-11-28 Thread William H. Magill

 On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dave Horsfall d...@horsfall.org wrote:
 
 Out of curiosity, why this sudden instability?

Are the servers actually going down, or are they just unreachable?

I wonder if this is a Net problem - i.e. is there a denial of service attack 
taking place against someone.

I'm a Comcast customer and have been seeing a server unknown problem with a 
couple of sites I frequent over the past 10 days.
It seems as if Comcast has re-routed traffic -- one wiki I edit frequently, 
is suddenly only 14 hops away again -- not the 20+ that it had been.
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Re: The crazy thing I did to fix Yosemite performance

2014-11-03 Thread William H. Magill

 On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Jeff Singleton gvib...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow Michael.. we should talk.
 
 VAX/VMS and Fortran is what I worked with in the Navy for 8 years. Ah yes, 
 back in the day when hard drives were the size of truck tires.

Sigh, memories,--  many of us old VAX/VMS people switched to Alpha and OSF/1 
(aks Digital Unix) and learned Darwin from the Mach side. :)


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Re: Trac is broke

2014-11-03 Thread William H. Magill
 Chrome still shows that same issue about AssertionError: Session ID not set.

There seems to be something happening on the Net, or with time or Safari or ...?

Basically, a WIKI which I edit regularly has begun generating what we are 
calling session time outs on page edits lately.

Page edits are identified via cookies, which should have expiration times of 
several days.

However starting several weeks, maybe as early as September, something has been 
causing those edit sessions to be timed out after a matter of minutes.

One edits a page, goes to save it and the save fails with at Session failure 
message. One then simply re-saves the page and it works.

So far we have been unable to identify exactly what is happening. This is with:
* MediaWiki 1.23.6 (c779259)
* PHP   5.6.2 (apache2handler)
* MariaDB5.5.5-10.0.14-MariaDB-log

However, the symptoms are the same -- cookie fails -- and then works; although 
the assumption is that a new cookie is being set.

This is one of those -- It's obvious what is apparently happening; but no 
clues as to WHY it has just started happening.

(I do all my editing with Safari, now from Yosemite, but previously from 
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Re: The crazy thing I did to fix Yosemite performance

2014-11-02 Thread William H. Magill

 On Nov 2, 2014, at 1:57 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday November 02 2014 12:06:35 Jeff Singleton wrote:
 
 Back story: In an attempt to figure out why the services mds and 
 mdworker were running away with my CPU. Nothing I did resolved this, 
 including putting every single folder except /Applications in the 
 exception list for Spotlight. This is where I started editing 
 
 Did that include switching off indexing for the whole (boot) disk (mdutil -i 
 off) followed by a reboot? That ought to have wiped your spotlight folder, 
 presuming that the most likely performance culprit would be updating an 
 existing (huge) database file ...

This problem (runaway MDs/MDWorker jobs) was also true in Mavericks.

I don't know how Apple updates the Spotlight database, but it is pretty clear 
that following a major upgrade, that database needs to be purged of all the old 
records which are basically duplicated by the new. Using Apple's methodology, 
this update apparently takes days.

Virtually all of the fixes involved trashing that Spotlight database in some 
fashion. A disk-wipe and re-install, is clearly one, which also has the benefit 
of trashing all of the various Cache databases created by various apps, as 
User/Library/Caches is not backed-up.

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MediaWiki equilivant to MAMP documet at trac

2014-10-27 Thread William H. Magill
The recent question about ImageMagic made me think about a project I'm 
contemplating --

Installing MediaWiki on my MacMini with MacPorts packaging.

I haven't gotten around to following the MAMP installation yet since I upgraded 
to Yosemite, but that has worked well for me in the past.
https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MAMP

So my question is -- is there an equivalent document for MediaWIki -- one 
component of which is ImageMagic as I recall.


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Fwd: Getting Apache to restart

2014-10-25 Thread William H. Magill
oops forgot to cc the list

 Begin forwarded message:
 
 Subject: Re: Getting Apache to restart
 From: William H. Magill mag...@mac.com
 Date: October 25, 2014 at 5:12:56 PM EDT
 To: Dave Horsfall d...@horsfall.org
 
 
 On Oct 25, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Dave Horsfall d...@horsfall.org wrote:
 
 Sigh...  I seem to recall this being discussed recently, but I do not 
 recall the outcome.
 
 What is the secret to getting Apache to restart, again?  Every single web 
 reference I've seen says to use apachectl restart (which is how I do it 
 on FreeBSD), but on Yosemite it remains firmly un-restarted.
 
 I could've sworn it worked for earlier releases; if not Mavericks then 
 certainly for Snow Leopard.  I don't really have a server on the Mac as 
 such, but I use it for testing pages before sending them to my FreeBSD 
 box.
 
 Yes, I just had that problem:
 
 See: MAMP documentation in the trac wiki Step 2 - Install Apache2.
 
 https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MAMP
 
 The problem becomes --
 If you use Apachectl - that program defaults to launching /usr/sbin/httpd 
  oops
 
 So, you get an instance running of Apple's web server that you have to 
 terminate before the MacPorts version will start.
 (I.e. the Apple version is previously bound to port 80).
 
 In theory, if you simply rebooted AFTER doing the Mac Ports update, it would 
 have just worked.
 But nobody reboots anymore :)

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Re: controlling Macports version of Apache2 -- part 2

2014-10-24 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:
 
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Brandon Allbery allbery.b at gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:37 PM, William H. Magill magill at mac.com 
 wrote:
 What is the equivalent today? MacPorts does not contain a Lynx port which 
 the search command can find.
 
 links or elinks, probably. Ports exist for both. There's also w3m and 
 netrik.
 
 (port search browser also tells me there is indeed a lynx port. What 
 exactly did you use with port search?)
 
 Using the search function on the web page: 
 
 https://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=categorysubstr=Lynx
 
 And
 
 https://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=categorysubstr=lynx
 
 
 T.T.F.N.
 William H. Magill
 
 You were searching by category (and there is no lynx category).
 Searching by name works:
 
 https://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=namesubstr=lynx
 
 - Josh

 On Oct 24, 2014, at 1:56 AM, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org wrote:
 You had Search by set to Category. Try it with Software title:
 
 https://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=namesubstr=lynx
 
 lynx certainly does exist in MacPorts. I maintain it :)
 
 vq

This must be the only search function on the Internet which returns zero hits!

Obviously I simply did not notice that the search by entry did not 
snap-back to the default as when you first hit the page, again a unique 
feature on the Internet.

One develops bad habits when away from System Administration and hanging out 
with users. :)

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Installation log files?

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill
In going through the Yosemite upgrade, I have come up with the following 
question.

I don't find any answer in the guide (guide.macports.org) -- the closest I have 
found is a reference under 3.1.11 port install to the main.log

Since this was a successful installation, it contains 3 lines.

What I'm looking for is the notes (or explanations) which were in the install 
stream.
Are they recorded anywhere? Or do you have to remember to copy them down on the 
fly?

Put another way, this seems to be a feature lacking in the basic MacPorts 
documentation structure. Or well hidden as the case may be. :)
===
Now I realize this issue may only be relevant for certain ports.

In my case, I'm playing with Apache2 -- and while apachectl does something, 
it is not clear that it does the right thing -- especially since I think I 
remember that the MacPorts version of Apache2 does something different.

What I'm looking for is that block of text from the installation log which 
tells me how to start and stop Apache2.


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Re: Installation log files?

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 What I'm looking for is the notes (or explanations) which were in the 
 install stream.
 Are they recorded anywhere? Or do you have to remember to copy them down on 
 the fly?
 
 port notes installed

Aha useful.

Except that Apache2 yields:

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controlling Macports version of Apache2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill
On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:34 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 What I'm looking for is the notes (or explanations) which were in the 
 install stream.
 Are they recorded anywhere? Or do you have to remember to copy them down on 
 the fly?
 
 port notes installed
 
 Aha useful.
 
 Except that Apache2 yields:
 
 apache2 has no notes.

I am fairly certain that I recalled instructions in the re-installation process 
(post Yosemite) of Apache2 on how to start and stop Apache2.

Clearly Apachectl does not work. (/usr/sbin/apachectl)
It expects to run /usr/sbin/httpd as its binary

The plist file it uses is similarly not involved. 
/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd.plist

What I am unable to find is those instructions.

 echo $PATH
/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/bin:/Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/sbin:/Users/magill/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local1/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/local/etc:/usr/local1/etc

I can eventually puzzle out the answer, but I can't find it documented anywhere.

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controlling Macports version of Apache2 -- part 2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:23 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:34 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 What I'm looking for is the notes (or explanations) which were in the 
 install stream.
 Are they recorded anywhere? Or do you have to remember to copy them down on 
 the fly?
 
 port notes installed
 
 Aha useful.
 
 Except that Apache2 yields:
 
 apache2 has no notes.
 
 I am fairly certain that I recalled instructions in the re-installation 
 process (post Yosemite) of Apache2 on how to start and stop Apache2.
 
 Clearly Apachectl does not work. (/usr/sbin/apachectl)
 It expects to run /usr/sbin/httpd as its binary
 
 The plist file it uses is similarly not involved. 
 /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd.plist
 
 What I am unable to find is those instructions.
 
 echo $PATH
 /opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/bin:/Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/sbin:/Users/magill/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local1/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/local/etc:/usr/local1/etc
 
 I can eventually puzzle out the answer, but I can't find it documented 
 anywhere.

I note that /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl contains the following reference:

# a command that outputs a formatted text version of the HTML at the
# url given on the command line.  Designed for lynx, however other
# programs may work.  
LYNX=lynx -dump

Obviously an artifact from long, long ago in the Unix world.

What is the equivalent today? MacPorts does not contain a Lynx port which the 
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Re: controlling Macports version of Apache2 -- part 2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:37 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 What is the equivalent today? MacPorts does not contain a Lynx port which the 
 search command can find.
 
 links or elinks, probably. Ports exist for both. There's also w3m and netrik.
 
 (port search browser also tells me there is indeed a lynx port. What 
 exactly did you use with port search?)

Using the search function on the web page: 

https://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=categorysubstr=Lynx

And

https://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=categorysubstr=lynx


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Re: controlling Macports version of Apache2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:23 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:34 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
  On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
  port notes installed
 
  Aha useful.
 
  Except that Apache2 yields:
 
  apache2 has no notes.
 
 I am fairly certain that I recalled instructions in the re-installation 
 process (post Yosemite) of Apache2 on how to start and stop Apache2.
 
 Sadly, there are still ports which use ui_msg in their postinstall sections, 
 which can only be found after the fact by manually inspecting their 
 Portfiles. (I ran into another one, xinit, earlier today.)
 
 Clearly Apachectl does not work. (/usr/sbin/apachectl)
 It expects to run /usr/sbin/httpd as its binary
 
 I would have expected the apache2 ports to install /opt/local/sbin/apachectl, 
 possibly with a version appended. But looking at the apache2 Portfile, it 
 appears to actually be /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl. (This path should 
 have been visible in the plist you found.)

Finding /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl was obvious. But not from any pllist 
file.

Looking at that file and comparing it with Apple's they are significantly 
different. 
I.e. /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl  contains no reference to a plist file, 
OR the use of launchctl. It looks like a non-Apple oriented, plain Unix start 
file.

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Re: controlling Macports version of Apache2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:52 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 Finding /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl was obvious. But not from any 
 pllist file.
 
 Looking at that file and comparing it with Apple's they are significantly 
 different.
 I.e. /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl  contains no reference to a plist file, 
 OR the use of launchctl. It looks like a non-Apple oriented, plain Unix start 
 file.

 Other way around: the MacPorts launchd plist uses apachectl to actually start 
 the web server, as indicated by the apache2 Portfile. apachectl itself does 
 not reference launchd, it is referenced *by* launchd via the plist.

That is the set of instructions I was looking for... I know I've seen them 
someplace, but cannot find them anywhere! 
I don't see them in the Portfile for apache2. Maybe they have just gotten lost 
in an upgrade.

They should be something like:

sudo /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/apache2.wrapper stop
sudo /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/apache2.wrapper start
sudo /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/apache2.wrapper restart

It's not the most obvious thing in the world.



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Re: controlling Macports version of Apache2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Craig Treleaven ctrelea...@macports.org wrote:
 
 At 9:52 PM -0400 10/23/14, William H. Magill wrote:
  On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:23 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:34 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
   On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
  Clearly Apachectl does not work. (/usr/sbin/apachectl)
 It expects to run /usr/sbin/httpd as its binary
 
 I would have expected the apache2 ports to install 
 /opt/local/sbin/apachectl, possibly with a version appended. But looking at 
 the apache2 Portfile, it appears to actually be 
 /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl. (This path should have been visible in 
 the plist you found.)
 
 Finding /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl was obvious. But not from any 
 pllist file.
 
 The launchd plist's for system-wide services like Apache2 are in 
 '/Library/LaunchDaemons':
 
 $ ls -l /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2.plist
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  admin  76  4 Jun 14:32 
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2.plist - 
 /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/org.macports.apache2.plist
 
 You can 'cat' the plist file to see what it is doing.  In this case, it calls 
 a wrapper script.

As i said -- that part of the documentation is missing!!!

At one time there were instructions in the port on how to start and stop the 
Apache server -- they are now missing.

The technique to be used is anything but obvious for anyone familiar with 
Apache.


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Re: controlling Macports version of Apache2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Craig Treleaven ctrelea...@macports.org wrote:
 
 At 10:43 PM -0400 10/23/14, William H. Magill wrote:
  On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:52 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 Finding /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl was obvious. But not from any 
 pllist file.
 
 Looking at that file and comparing it with Apple's they are significantly 
 different.
 I.e. /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl  contains no reference to a plist 
 file, OR the use of launchctl. It looks like a non-Apple oriented, plain 
 Unix start file.
 
 Other way around: the MacPorts launchd plist uses apachectl to actually 
 start the web server, as indicated by the apache2 Portfile. apachectl 
 itself does not reference launchd, it is referenced *by* launchd via the 
 plist.
 
 That is the set of instructions I was looking for... I know I've seen them 
 someplace, but cannot find them anywhere!
 I don't see them in the Portfile for apache2. Maybe they have just gotten 
 lost in an upgrade.
 
 They should be something like:
 
 sudo /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/apache2.wrapper stop
 sudo /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/apache2.wrapper start
 sudo /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/apache2.wrapper 
 restart
 
 It's not the most obvious thing in the world.
 
 Perhaps you want the A portion of MAMP:
 
 https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MAMP

Thanks for providing the URL!!!  -- otherwise one can't find it from the 
MacPorts home page.
The link to Documentation is a dead-end page. No links to any other 
documents. Or even a reference to the existence of the WikI

I'll have to read through it to see if it is current now with Yosemite.
I last used it back under snow leopard, but then switched to using OSX Server 
since it was bundled with my MacMiini.
But now Apple has unbundled it.

At any rate, I expect I'll wind up getting all of MAMP installed and running 
again -- I had forgotten all of the pieces to the puzzle!
Thanks again for the link!

I haven't had this much fun migrating from one environment to another since I 
retired!
At least it gives me something to do when I get tired of killing Orcs!

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Re: controlling Macports version of Apache2

2014-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:49 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 At one time there were instructions in the port on how to start and stop the 
 Apache server -- they are now missing.
 
 The technique to be used is anything but obvious for anyone familiar with 
 Apache.
 
 By the way, could you explain why using apachectl --- which is the way you 
 are supposed to manage it directly --- is somehow wrong (not to mention 
 different from systems like Linux or *BSD or Solaris where you control it 
 directly with apachectl)? I think earlier versions *did* require a wrapper 
 script --- but that likely was a workaround for a bug, and is fixed now.

Obviously using /opt/local/apache2/bin/apachectl would be the expected way 
of doing things.

But even that probably needs to be documented because the PATH does not include 
/opt/local/apache2/bin/ - you have to know that it is there. 
Because Apple has a copy in /usr/sbin/apachectl  which you will get by default.

At least I now have the pointer to MMAP again!



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Re: Updating database of binaries step very slow under Yosemite?

2014-10-22 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:24 PM, James Berry jbe...@macports.org wrote:
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 1:06 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wednesday October 22 2014 15:51:38 Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Arno Hautala wrote:
 I'm pretty sure that the scan only checks newly installed files.
 Correct.
 Only new (yet-to-be-scanned) files get added, then only the applicable 
 files are checked during rev-upgrade.
 What's the point in scanning newly installed files? I thought the whole idea 
 was to scan already installed files for ABI issues due to the newly 
 installed (dylib) files?
 
 The phase that seems to take some time, “Updating database of binaries” is 
 really just recording which of the newly installed files are binary; this is 
 then used for later checking of whether those binaries have been broken.
 
 The code basically gets from the database the list of files whose state is 
 not yet known (binary null), determines which are binaries, and writes that 
 information to the database.
 
 Something in that process takes longer than one would expect; that’s what 
 needs to be investigated.
 
 To investigate:
 
   - It’s pretty easy to null out the binary field in the database
   - I would run the code three times with the binary fields all nulled: 
 once as it normally is; once by stubbing out the binary check (but writing a 
 static value to the database); and once by performing the binary check but 
 not writing to the database.
   - This would at least give some information about what aspect of the 
 task is taking so much time, and might give some ideas on where we need to 
 look next.
 
 I haven’t had a chance to do this, but it would be interesting to do…
 
 Or are we talking about the (other?) scan that bugs you after you cleaned 
 out all those useless doc or translation files, claiming that such or so  
 file is missing? :)

What follows is somewhat orthogonal to this train of thought, but may possibly 
relate to the issue, or it may be completely worthless.
And  bare with me, I've been retired now for 10 years, but spent A LOT of time 
as an OSF/1 System Administrator on Dec Alphas, so I may not have the details 
exactly right anymore.
1- This release of OSX TIGHTLY integrates local I/O with iCloud (i.e. network) 
I/O. This implies that there was probably some significant work done in the 
Kernel Level I/O routines.
(I know I/O isn't done by the Kernel in OSX as it is not a 
Monolithic-kernel. Or at least it didn't start out that way, I have no idea 
what it has morphed into today.)

2- Long ago, before there was OSF/1, RCA had an operating system called VS/9 -- 
it was discovered that a dramatic performance improvement could be obtained by 
fixing the I/O modules to increase the read and write block sizes to actually 
FIT the much larger modern hardware -- Not simply doing multiple writes of 
smaller records to fill up a single track on the disk. I/O was optimized for 
the hardware if you will.

3- It is well known that the NUMBER of I/Os is a significant determining 
factor in read and write performance issues., one of the basic concepts behind 
I/O Caches.

4- Here I'm into serious speculation as this is all new technology in my 
experience quiver...

Given that reads and writes to iCloud are most likely much smaller in size than 
those to local hardware AND issues relating to acknowledgements of the success 
or failures of such reads and writes, the potential exists for significant 
issues with timings in general, the question becomes -- how much have these 
considerations actually impacted the functionality of OSX and various 
applications.

What I have no knowledge of is HOW (if at all) OSX completely turns off or 
otherwise ignores or bypasses iCloud I/O if it is not being used. I.e. is a 
check made on each I/O or does the I/O subsystem know to completely ignore it? 
Any check takes time. When there is a very small number of checks being done, 
that time is small, but if the number of checks increases that time can 
increase dramatically. Similarly, HOW OSX is optimized to provide redundancy, 
fast launch, etc. all come into play.

I can easily see how something like this database check does MUCH MORE I/O per 
given unit of time than the OS design parameters test for.
Testing of extremes normally yields some totally unexpected results, which 
usually results in having those extremes modified. Frequently, in something 
as complex as OSX, a normal user range of values is tested and higher values 
are simply assumed to work the same way.

So, in short, to my way of thinking, James comments are spot on as they say 
in the UK.

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Re: Yosemite, XCode 6.1?

2014-10-19 Thread William H. Magill

 On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
 
 In article f763bd5f-40f8-4b30-9a3a-2d7628a09...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk,
 Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote:
 Its quite simple, you need the OSX 10.10 SDK, which is only available in 
 Xcode 6.1, which for whatever reason is not released yet. You need to wait 
 for it
 
 The reason, I think, is that Xcode 6.0.x was released to support iOS 8 
 when iOS 8 was released so it does not include an OS X 10.10 SDK since 
 10.10 wasn't released at that point yet.  Xcode 6.1 will support iOS 8.1 
 which apparently is anticipated to release on Monday 10/20 US time so I 
 would expect to see Xcode 6.1 released via the Mac App Store then as 
 well.
 
 Apparently, Apple decided (somewhat understandably) that it wasn't worth 
 the effort to rev bump Xcode 6.0.x just to include a 10.10 SDK just for 
 the four days between the release of 10.10 and the release of 8.1 and 
 they didn't want to publicly pre-release an 8.1 SDK.  Thus we're in this 
 weird limbo state - unless you are a member of one of the (paid) Apple 
 Developer programs that give non-disclosure access to pre-releases.  Why 
 Apple chose to not release 10.10 and 8.1 simultaneously may never be 
 known but it could just be they didn't want to overload the Interwebz 
 and/or their support organizations.
 

The truly annoying thing is that 6.0.1 was released along with 10.10 -- and a 
comment 
that it supported 10.10.
Where the definition of supported means -- will run under 10.10; but does NOT
provide 10.10 tools!

Most annoying.




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iStumbler update?

2014-10-19 Thread William H. Magill
I am really beginning to hate the new Yosemite mail client…. it is refusing to 
display “to” information unless I “view Raw Source, and it defaults to sending 
from “icloud.com http://icloud.com/” instead of from “mac.com 
http://mac.com/” — which is how I’ve been subscribed to the mailing list 
“forever.”
ARGHH!

 Subject: iStumbler update?
 From: macports-users-ow...@lists.macosforge.org
 To: mag...@icloud.com
 Date: October 19, 2014 at 1:36:30 PM EDT
 
 You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
 been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
 being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
 macports-users-ow...@lists.macosforge.org.
 
 
 Date: October 19, 2014 at 1:36:09 PM EDT
 From: William H. Magill mag...@icloud.com
 Subject: iStumbler update?
 To: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org

Going through the update ritual I checked on Mac Ports iStumbler. 
It launched and reported that a new version existed (100.22 vs 99). 
In the resulting pop-up are instructions that the 99 version would fail to 
download the update and to download it directly

This updated with no problems

So I guess the question is -- should I just drop the Mac Ports version of 
iStumbler now?


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Re: Questions about MediWiki port

2014-08-01 Thread William H. Magill

On Aug 1, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote:

 On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:18 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 
 What I was wondering about was the fact that OSX Server includes Apple's 
 installation of Apache, PHP, SQL and ???
 
 MacPorts does not use any of it. 
 
 Though if you're running an SQL server provided by OS X server, you could 
 certainly configure e.g. a PHP web app like Mediawiki to use it. MacPorts 
 will not however use that SQL's server's libraries to communicate with that 
 SQL server; it'll instead install its own copies of those libraries.


 I had been running OSX Server's web server successfully, and upon installing 
 Media Wiki (and all of its dependencies) was immediately confronted by:
 
 Internal Server Error
. . .
 ===
 I can't say that the error is unexpected. 
 Now I just have to figure out what to turn off and what to re-configure.

That situation proved to be trivial -- i.e. a simple reboot cleared the 
error, and restored the functionality of Apple's Web server.
I suspect  that simply stopping and restarting Apple's web server using the 
Server Manager application would have had the same effect, but I did not try 
that first.


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ssh/sshd question

2014-08-01 Thread William H. Magill
I have not been doing much work via ssh since upgrading to 10.9 (Mavericks), so 
while this occurrence is new to me, it may be related to the update.

I'm working between an iMac and a Mac Mini - both are running 10.9.4 and OSX 
Server 3.1.2

What I am encountering is -- if I have multiple windows open (any kind 
including multiple terminal windows)
and leave a terminal window which I have used to ssh from the iMac to the mini, 
for some indeterminate amount of time, I find that the SSH connection has 
hung.

If I hit return a couple of times, after another brief period of time I get 
broken pipe.

I assume that some sort of inactivity timer is in operation, but I cannot 
find it.

The config file which the man page claims to exist /etc/ssh/sshd_config does 
not exist on either system.

I do have a number of ssh files  in /etc which are dated pre Mavericks, and 
none of them have any obvious time-out parameters.

The question becomes -- Is this time out a parameter issue or a bug?

If a parmeter issue, which/where?






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Questions about MediWiki port

2014-07-31 Thread William H. Magill
I just started to play with OSX Server and Apple's WiKi implementation .

From what I have been able discover Apple wrote their WiKi in Ruby from the 
ground up.
Consequently, it bears zero resemblance to MediaWIki.

The MediaWiki installation instructions for OSX are antiquated. 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Mac_OS_X


That being the case, I have a couple of questions about the MediaWiki 
implementation under MacPorts.

1- How does the MacPorts installation of MediaWiki integrate with OSX Server 
under Maverick -- OSX 10.9.4 and Server 3.1.2. (anybody tried it with Yosemite 
yet?)

2- Does the MediaWiki port integrate with ImageMagick or GD?

3- The port listed in the portfiles web-page was version 1.17.0  last updated 
7 months ago
The current version of MediaWiki (just released  7/30) is either 1.23.2 or 
1.22.9  -- apparently the intervening releases were security releases.

Anybody else working with MediaWiki on OSX Server?



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Re: Questions about MediWiki port

2014-07-31 Thread William H. Magill

On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht pixi...@macports.org wrote:

 
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 12:25 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 
 1- How does the MacPorts installation of MediaWiki integrate with OSX Server 
 under Maverick -- OSX 10.9.4 and Server 3.1.2. (anybody tried it with 
 Yosemite yet?)
 
 The MacPorts MediaWiki port installs the MediaWiki files and some basic 
 dependencies. The configuration is left to the MacPorts user.
 If by  integrate you are looking for OpenDirectory integration have a look 
 at this MediaWiki extension [1]

What I was wondering about was the fact that OSX Server includes Apple's 
installation of Apache, PHP, SQL and ???

It's like OSX itself -- Apple hides a lot of stuff under the hood -- and it 
takes a lot of work to sort out what is and is not present, and where.

And it is compounded by the fact that OSX Server is even less documented than 
OSX.


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Re: Questions about MediWiki port

2014-07-31 Thread William H. Magill

On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht pixi...@macports.org wrote:

 
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 12:25 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 
 1- How does the MacPorts installation of MediaWiki integrate with OSX Server 
 under Maverick -- OSX 10.9.4 and Server 3.1.2. (anybody tried it with 
 Yosemite yet?)
 
 The MacPorts MediaWiki port installs the MediaWiki files and some basic 
 dependencies. The configuration is left to the MacPorts user.
 If by  integrate you are looking for OpenDirectory integration have a look 
 at this MediaWiki extension [1]

I had been running OSX Server's web server successfully, and upon installing 
Media Wiki (and all of its dependencies) was immediately confronted by:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to 
complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, ad...@example.com and inform them of 
the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have 
caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Apache/2.2.26 (Unix) DAV/2 PHP/5.4.24 mod_ssl/2.2.26 OpenSSL/0.9.8y Server at 
www.mcgillsociety.org Port 80
===
I can't say that the error is unexpected. 
Now I just have to figure out what to turn off and what to re-configure.

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xcode-select --install fails

2014-05-25 Thread William H. Magill
Trying to update MacPorts and find that I'm getting a network failure message 
from xcode.

xcode-select --install or sudo xcode-select --install

Yields a pop-up:

The 'xcode-select' command requires the command line developer tools. would 
you like to instll the tools now?

Ok, as expected... however, when clicking Install
after the EULA
it pauses a moment, pops up Getting software and the barber-pole then...
Can't download the software because of a network problem.

===
Any guesses on what is happening?

There is also a related issue being discussed on the Apple Support Forums.
When I launch the App store, and click updates, it pops up:

NSURLErrorDomain error -1012

=== 
https://discussions.apple.com/message/24647716#24647716

One of the current postings on that thread posted 2 hours ago stated:

I encountered the same error while attempting to update a brand new iMac this 
morning.
 
After contacting Apple Support, I was told that the App store was brought down 
for unscheduled maintenance. This was not reflected on the Apple Status web 
page BTW. I was told to retry updating via the App Store in a few hours.
 
While some updates (iWork) did complete, the error has occurred message 
continue to display between updates. The other symptom was that my new iMac was 
not detecting that OS X 10.9 was in need of an update to 10.9.2.




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Issue upgrading from 2.2.0 to 2.2.1 - Error: llvm-3.1 is not supported on Mavericks or later.

2014-02-08 Thread William H. Magill
The error is pretty self explanatory. 

My question is -- did I do something wrong or is this just a Perl5 issue?



 outpost sudo port selfupdate
---  Updating MacPorts base sources using rsync
MacPorts base version 2.2.0 installed,
MacPorts base version 2.2.1 downloaded.
---  Updating the ports tree
---  MacPorts base is outdated, installing new version 2.2.1
Installing new MacPorts release in /opt/local as root:admin; permissions 0755; 
Tcl-Package in /Library/Tcl


The ports tree has been updated. To upgrade your installed ports, you should run
  port upgrade outdated
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost sudo port upgrade outdated
. . . Fine until:

---  Cleaning perl5
---  Fetching archive for llvm_select
---  Attempting to fetch llvm_select-0.2_0.darwin_13.noarch.tbz2 from 
http://mse.uk.packages.macports.org/sites/packages.macports.org/llvm_select
---  Attempting to fetch llvm_select-0.2_0.darwin_13.noarch.tbz2.rmd160 from 
http://mse.uk.packages.macports.org/sites/packages.macports.org/llvm_select
---  Unable to uninstall llvm_select @0.2_0, the following ports depend on it:
---llvm-3.1 @3.1_7
Warning: Uninstall forced.  Proceeding despite dependencies.
---  Deactivating llvm_select @0.2_0
---  Unable to deactivate llvm_select @0.2_0, the following ports depend on it:
---llvm-3.1 @3.1_7
Warning: Deactivate forced.  Proceeding despite dependencies.
---  Cleaning llvm_select
---  Uninstalling llvm_select @0.2_0
---  Cleaning llvm_select
---  Installing llvm_select @0.2_0
---  Activating llvm_select @0.2_0
---  Cleaning llvm_select
---  Fetching archive for llvm-3.1
---  Attempting to fetch llvm-3.1-3.1_7.darwin_13.x86_64.tbz2 from 
http://mse.uk.packages.macports.org/sites/packages.macports.org/llvm-3.1
---  Attempting to fetch llvm-3.1-3.1_7.darwin_13.x86_64.tbz2 from 
http://packages.macports.org/llvm-3.1
---  Attempting to fetch llvm-3.1-3.1_7.darwin_13.x86_64.tbz2 from 
http://lil.fr.packages.macports.org/llvm-3.1
---  Computing dependencies for llvm-3.1
---  Fetching distfiles for llvm-3.1
Error: llvm-3.1 is not supported on Mavericks or later.
Error: org.macports.fetch for port llvm-3.1 returned: unsupported platform
Please see the log file for port llvm-3.1 for details:

/opt/local/var/macports/logs/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_lang_llvm-3.1/llvm-3.1/main.log
Error: Unable to upgrade port: 1
To report a bug, follow the instructions in the guide:
http://guide.macports.org/#project.tickets

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Is there an iStumbler equilivant for iPhone/iPad

2013-11-05 Thread William H. Magill
I routinely use the Mac Port version of iStumbler on my iMac and have lately 
had a desire to be able to use it on either my iPhone or iPad (air).

Is there an equivalent (or a version of) ?

Apple seems to have removed the ability to browse anything but Hot New and 
Editor's Choices from iTunes 11 (Mavericks).. Similarly, the Search function 
is singularly unhelpful.






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Fwd: Setting up a new Mavericks machine

2013-10-29 Thread William H. Magill
For some reason, the Software Update access used by xcode-select -- install 
is still failing also for me.

I just used the developer repositiory as Jeremy pointed out several days ago.


Begin forwarded message:

 From: Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org
 Subject: Re: Setting up a new Mavericks machine
 Date: October 24, 2013 at 10:21:45 AM EDT
 To: Adam Mercer r...@macports.org
 Cc: macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
 
 Either way for the software update mirror to pickup the package and make it 
 available to you, or
 go to developer.apple.com/downloads to download and install it manually.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Adam Mercer wrote:
 
 Can't install the software because it is not currently available from
 the Software Update Server.
 
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Re: Setting up a new Mavericks machine

2013-10-24 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org 
wrote:

 Either way for the software update mirror to pickup the package and make it 
 available to you, or
 go to developer.apple.com/downloads to download and install it manually.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Adam Mercer wrote:
 
 Can't install the software because it is not currently available from
 the Software Update Server.

Thank you for the URL been trying since Tuesday and failing with 
xcode-select --install.


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Re: Port won't install on 10.9

2013-10-23 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Gary Little gglit...@comcast.net wrote:

 I’ve been installing command line tools from Xcode preferences since I first 
 installed Xcode. Checking Preferences and its downloads has always been one 
 of the first things I do. However, with Mavericks GM and Xcode 5.0.1 GM, 
 command line tools disappeared from preferences. It was while reading the 
 seed nots that I found xcode-select.

The complete description iis n the Xcode 5.0.1 Release notes:
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/RN-Xcode/

Command Line Tools
• Command line shims are included with OS X Mavericks. If Xcode is 
installed, the shims use the tools within Xcode. Otherwise, the tools delivered 
in the Command Line Developer Tools package are used. The Command Line 
Developer Tools package can be installed on demand using xcode-select --install 
or by trying to use any command line developer tool in Terminal.
On OS X Mavericks, Command Line Developer Tools are updated using Software 
Update. On OS X Mountain Lion, continue to use the Downloads preferences in 
Xcode to update the Command Line Developer Tools.

On OS X Mavericks, xcode-select provides the --reset flag to revert to using 
the default search paths.

The Command Line Developer tools package has been updated to include xcrun. 
xcrun adds support for the following:

• The --show-sdk-path option queries SDK paths
• Improved xcrun performance
• More robust support for the DEVELOPER_DIR environment variable
Set DEVELOPER_DIR to either a copy of Xcode or /Library/Developer 
CommandLineTools when Command Line Tools for OS X Mavericks is installed

• xcrun passes the SDK provided to subcommands in the SDKROOT 
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Re: Suggestion: Time to Use Trello?

2013-06-26 Thread William H. Magill

On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote:

 On 2013-06-26 13:19, Rodolfo Aramayo wrote:
 Many projects out there are transitioning to trello
 
 https://trello.com/
 
 What the heck does it do? The website tells me something about
 organizing things. There seems to be an app, but also a web page, so is
 it a service? Sorry, but I am unable to figure out what this is.
 
 Anyway, how would this be helpful in the context of using MacPorts?

Just reading their website, it's pretty obvious that Trello is simply yet 
another piece of collaborative organizing software.

It is replacement for a stack of 3x5 cards, a couple of magnets and a 
refrigerator. ... :)

While it allows communication amongst people, I don't see that it provides 
any kind of control, for instance, the way in which any kind of Software 
Control System (SCS) does.

It seems that it's primary benefit over a WIKI, for instance, is that it 
includes a more active notification system.

  Changes made by others appear instantaneously on your screen. You never 
have to wait for a page to reload to see the latest.

This feature implies that you use this application exclusively and are never 
doing anything else (like going to the bathroom or getting a drink.) :)

I believe the similar application found in Academia is called Whiteboard by 
MIcrosoft.



All of which is to say -- I don't really see any particular benefit to Mac 
Ports users or contributors.





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Re: Suggestion

2013-05-28 Thread William H. Magill

On May 28, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I picked a fairly specific string, such as quantum or jigsaw, I got 
 quite good
 results, as long as I searched the Full Description as well as the 
 Description (which
 apparently port search does not do by default).

Searching is highly overrated. Conceptually, it is useful, but in reality it 
fails miserably.

 a fairly specific string, such as quantum or jigsaw,
are not  strings but rather tokens. (And it's hard to get more specific than 
that.)

Searching by strings is almost impossible. ... even when you quote them:  
quantum jigsaw

The number of search engines which will ONLY return hits on your requested 
search are few and far between (if any)
They are ALL committed to the idea that people will not use us again if we 
don't return thousands and thousands of hits.

And we all know that the reason for that is 100% financial -- that's how those 
search engines get paid. And it gets even
more aggravating when you know that half of the hits on any given page are 
PAID to be there, they are not even the result
of the companies search algorithm.  And they are NEVER highlighted. ... 
because the search algorithm's are being gamed.

However, searching is far better than being handed a oh...mee-tooo  list. 
Just because some piece of Malware has been
downloaded by hundreds or thousands of people does not mean that I want, or 
should, download it also.
Johnny or Suzzie does it, why can't I... that's the attitude of a 7 year old. 

But folks seem to fall for it day after day after day at sites like Amazon, 
Twitter, iTunes, Facebook, and the like.

There is a difference between searching and browsing.

I don't know how many Mac Ports users remember visiting a major Library full of 
books not looking for a specific title, 
but looking for serendipity.  Granted it was just a different generation's 
version of attention grabbers -- a particular title, 
or a specific jacket illustration. You picked a room -- a category -- and 
started wandering the shelves. Maybe you looked
at the display the Librarian put together but usually you just wandered through 
the stacks. (I know I'm REALLY dating myself
now.) 

Personally, I find a search engine which does not tokenize every bloody word in 
the search string just so that it can return me
something really annoying.--- Returning nothing is JUST AS VALID, it has just 
as much,  and maybe more, meaning than a bunch of random hits.

Just my 2bits.


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Re: perl

2013-02-28 Thread William H. Magill
 You do not need to know Perl to run Circos. You do need to be familiar with:
 
   • concept of directories and files
   • navigating directories at the command prompt
   • creating and deleting directories at the command prompt
   • concept of absolute and relative paths 
 Well I can do that, I have done that:)

The following may be a bit esoteric, but has proved to be a gotcha more than 
one time 
when porting software from a Unix like environment (i.e. various LINUX 
variants)  to OSX.
(And, being retired, I'm now a bit rusty at this, so hopefully others will 
correct anything I've
misstated or mis-remembered. And I don't know Circos at all.)

One thing which has not been mentioned so far, but which is assumed -- 
that you understand the concept of path under OSX. It is slightly different 
compared to Linux!
(I.e. whose PATH is used, and  when -- and where it is set.)

MacPorts installs (modifies) your path environment variable in your .profile to 
include MacPorts
paths ahead of system paths.

--- example -
# MacPorts Installer addition on 2011-10-02_at_12:10:51: adding an appropriate 
PATH variable for use with MacPorts.
export PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:$PATH
export INFOPATH=/opt/local/share/info:/usr/share/info:$INFOPATH
# Finished adapting your PATH environment variable for use with MacPorts.
--- end example -

First thing to note is that the MacPorts installation modification ONLY 
modifies $PATH and $INFOPATH
It does not modify $LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
Historically, this has not been a problem, however there are things out there 
which expect
that information for one reason or another. (I have no idea if Circos is one of 
them.)

Because of changes Apple has made in OSX 10.8 (Mountain Lion), the main thing 
to be aware of is that
this .profile file is ONLY executed automatically from the command line for 
items launched from within a 
Terminal session initiated from your  login window.

Previous versions of OSX used the file: ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist as a 
mechanism to pass this same
information on to programs which WERE NOT LAUNCHED DIRECTLY FROM YOUR TERMINAL 
WINDOW,
but which ran under your userid. 
That is, programs configured to auto-start from things like cron or your 
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Re: UNIX commands font

2013-02-21 Thread William H. Magill

On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Jean Gobin jeanfgo...@gmail.com wrote:

 FreeBSD defaults to csh, OpenBSD and NetBSD to ksh.

Up until recently ?? Tiger maybe?? ... OSX also defaulted to ksh.


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Re: UNIX commands font

2013-02-21 Thread William H. Magill

On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote:

 On 2/21/13 10:15 AM, William H. Magill wrote:
 Up until recently ?? Tiger maybe?? ... OSX also defaulted to ksh.
 
 I don't think that's correct. On 10.2 OS X defaulted to tcsh, then switched 
 to bash on 10.3. I remember this because the syntax of shell scripts was so 
 different.


Aha... you are correct.  ... I think that while tsch was the default, ksh was 
also present... or maybe it was ksh configured to be tsch or vice versaor 
was that zsh?

Over the years, I have supported and run on so many different *nixs that I 
have a whole stable of set-up scripts that configure them all to look the 
same. 

Consequently, they all run together anymore -- one of the advantages :) of 
being retired.


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About iStumbler

2013-02-21 Thread William H. Magill
I have been an iStumbler user for many years, lately via MacPorts, and recently 
have had some folks ask me about it's status.

If you visit www.istumbler.net -- it does not support Mountain Lion, and only 
the beta of iStumbler 100 supports 10.7 Lion.

Clearly, the MacPorts implementation runs on 10.8 Mountain Lion.

So, the question becomes... 

1- is anybody supporting iStumbler anymore?  It doesn't look dead -- but it 
is clearly not current.

2- Is there a sourceforge repository?

3- I note that there is an iStumbler Facebook page which seems to be active.

4- Is twit the only way to contact the author?


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Does the MacPorts installation of Aspell include Textinfo?

2012-12-30 Thread William H. Magill
Does the MacPorts installation of Aspell include Textinfo?

The man page states:
Aspell  is  fully documented in its Texinfo manual.  See the `aspell' entry in 
info
   for more complete documentation.

But I don't find anything using textinfo within emacs.

Or is it a separate installation?

Or is that an obsolete statement now that aspell.net exists?

port list aspell* doesn't find anything other than dictionaries.
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Aspell question?

2012-12-29 Thread William H. Magill
This is probably strictly an Aspell question, not mac ports...
I'm a long time ispell user converting to Aspell.   I've installed Aspell and 
its dictionary via mac ports.

(This is also on a new (Black Thursday) Mac-mini with OSX 10.8.2 and OSX Server 
2.2)

sudo port install aspell
sudo port install aspell-dict-en

both apparently installed with no errors.

to my .emacs file, I've added:
  (setq-default ispell-program-name aspell)
  (setq-default ispell-extra-args '(--reverse))

I ran aspell-import
( that process complained about /M and similar inclusions in my .ispell_english 
file, which surprised me.)

Now, when I run ispell on my emacs buffer, I get:

Error: /Users/magill/.aspell.en.pws: The word personal_ws-1.1 en 635  is 
invalid. The character '_' (U+5F) may\
 not appear in the middle of a word.

This is sort of true -- that is the header line created by aspell, and is as 
is documented at aspell.net

So the question is: Which is it... an issue with the macports aspell 
installation or an issue with aspell itself?


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Conflicts with OSX Server

2012-11-29 Thread William H. Magill
Are there any inherent conflicts between Mac Ports and OSX Server -- aside from the obvious ones of having two versions of, say, Apache installed.I'm installing/updating a new Mac mini from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and have re-installed Mac Ports and installed OSX Server.
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apparent failure in port clean all

2012-11-29 Thread William H. Magill
While going through step 3 of the migration process... "sudo port clean all" it apparently aborted part way through:(a new Mac mini now running 10.8.1 -- migrating from an old mini running Snow Leopard)==cut here=--- Cleaning hs-platform-cabal--- Cleaning hs-platform-cgi--- Cleaning hs-platform-fgl--- Cleaning hs-platform-ghcError: Unable to open port: Could not find Portfile in--- /opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/devel/hs-platform-glut==cut here=Additionally, the following warnings appeared:==cut here=--- Cleaning commoncpp2Warning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-beanutils--- Cleaning commons-cliWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-codecWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-collectionsWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-daemonWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-dbcpWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-digester--- Cleaning commons-elWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-fileupload--- Cleaning commons-httpclient--- Cleaning commons-io--- Cleaning commons-lang--- Cleaning commons-launcherWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-loggingWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-modelerWarning: No value for java JAVA_HOME was automatically discovered--- Cleaning commons-pool==cut here=___
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Re: macports without XCode

2012-11-08 Thread William H. Magill
On Nov 08, 2012, at 01:29 PM, "William H. Magill" mag...@icloud.com wrote:On Nov 07, 2012, at 08:47 AM, Federico Calboli f.calb...@gmail.com wrote:After having a go with homebrew I decided that macport's use of /opt/local is significantly less likely to screw up my system, so I am now quite firmly on the macport side of the camp. One good thing homebrew has though is the fact it only requires the command line tools, not the whole Xcode installation. Is a macports -Xcode +CLT ever going to happen?I do not believe it is possible to acquire/install the Command Line Tools (CLT) WITHOUT first installing Xcode.
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Re: I need consultation on running WINE on the Mac

2012-10-19 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 16, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:

 I know this is not a MacPorts issue, so please direct this to somewhere that 
 makes sense.
 
 Basically, I'm a total newbee when it comes to RAW WINE. I've historically 
 used Codeweavers Crossover which is Wine 1.4.1
 Which is packaged to run quite nicely under Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
 
 I play LOTRO, which just did a major upgrade, and therefore no longer runs 
 under 1.4.1
 
 WINEhq has a fix which requires WINE 1.1.15. 
 However, the folks there are al LINUX types.
 
 SO. I just installed MacPorts wine-dev 1.5.15 and now I need to do two 
 things. (That I know of.)
 1- Find out how to apply the patch (which I believe is a classic diff 
 file)-- I have no idea how badly that will break the MacPorts installation.
 
 I've just applied it to the wine-crossover port. Seems to work fine.
 
 2- Find out how to configure raw WINE  on the mac. In particular how to 
 point it to the existing Crossover WINE Bottles.
 
 Pointers to appropriate OSX oriented instructions are desired.
 Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 After installing wine-crossover, all you should need to run is (all one
 line, ignore any line breaks inserted by email software):
 
 WINEPREFIX=/Users/you/Library/Application
 Support/CrossOver/Bottles/Lord of the Rings Online wine
 ~/Library/Application\ Support/CrossOver/Bottles/Lord\ of\ the\ Rings\
 Online/drive_c/Program\ Files/PyLotRO/pylotro.exe

I've been side-tracked a bit.
On top of everything else I just signed an agreement of sale and will be moving 
in 2 weeks. ...

Ok. I have the wine-crossover port and Xquartz installed...  It crashes just as 
the normal CrossOver does.
So I assume that the normal port install installs an unpatched version.

So, how do I apply the patch? 

As best I can tell, there is no source tree left around after the install, 
only the tar file.




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Re: I need consultation on running WINE on the Mac

2012-10-19 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 19, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote:

 
 On Oct 19, 2012, at 17:01, William H. Magill wrote:
 
 Ok. I have the wine-crossover port and Xquartz installed...  It crashes just 
 as the normal CrossOver does.
 So I assume that the normal port install installs an unpatched version.
 
 I thought Josh committed the patch to the wine-crossover port as part of this 
 revision:
 
 https://trac.macports.org/changeset/98794
 
 This was the same revision in which he updated the port to 11.2.2 so if you 
 have an earlier version, sudo port selfupdate and sudo port upgrade 
 outdated.

Thank you... 
I must have done a selfupdate and downloaded the crossover port before he did 
the update.
It has been a hectic week with the house sale and all.

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Re: I need consultation on running WINE on the Mac

2012-10-17 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:

 PyLotRO uses the PyQt bindings, but since it's built as a Windows app,
 Qt uses Windows API calls, which are implemented by wine using X11.
 CrossOver runs its own internal X server. With MacPorts, you'll need
 either XQuartz or the xorg-server port.

It looks like MacPorts has only one version -- which appears as both names.

FYI -- 

 sudo port search XQuartz
 xorg-server @1.13.0 (x11, devel)
The X.org / Xquartz X server.

 xorg-server-devel @1.13.99.0 (x11, devel)
 The X.org / Xquartz X server.

 Found 2 ports.





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Re: I need consultation on running WINE on the Mac

2012-10-17 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 17, 2012, at 12:32 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:

 
 On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:
 
 PyLotRO uses the PyQt bindings, but since it's built as a Windows app,
 Qt uses Windows API calls, which are implemented by wine using X11.
 CrossOver runs its own internal X server. With MacPorts, you'll need
 either XQuartz or the xorg-server port.
 
 It looks like MacPorts has only one version -- which appears as both names.
 
 FYI -- 
 
 sudo port search XQuartz
 xorg-server @1.13.0 (x11, devel)
   The X.org / Xquartz X server.
 
 xorg-server-devel @1.13.99.0 (x11, devel)
The X.org / Xquartz X server.
 
 Found 2 ports.

Oops... that didn't work -- 

OSX 10.8.2 
Xcode Version 4.5.1 (4G1004)
MacPorts 2.1.2


sudo port install xorg-server
---  Computing dependencies for xorg-server
---  Dependencies to be installed: quartz-wm xorg-libAppleWM xorg-applewmproto 
xinit mkfontdir mkfontscale xorg-libfontenc xauth xrdb xset xorg-libXfontcache 
xorg-fontcacheproto xorg-libXp xorg-printproto xorg-libXxf86misc 
xorg-xf86miscproto xkeyboard-config xkbcomp xorg-libxkbfile xorg-font-util 
xorg-fonts font-adobe-100dpi bdftopcf xorg-libXfont xorg-fontsproto 
font-adobe-75dpi font-adobe-utopia-100dpi font-adobe-utopia-75dpi 
font-adobe-utopia-type1 font-alias font-arabic-misc font-bh-100dpi 
font-bh-75dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi 
font-bh-ttf font-bh-type1 font-bitstream-100dpi font-bitstream-75dpi 
font-bitstream-speedo font-bitstream-type1 font-cronyx-cyrillic 
font-cursor-misc font-daewoo-misc font-dec-misc font-ibm-type1 font-isas-misc 
font-jis-misc font-micro-misc font-misc-cyrillic font-misc-ethiopic 
font-misc-meltho font-misc-misc font-mutt-misc font-schumacher-misc 
font-screen-cyrillic font-sony-misc font-sun-misc font-winitzki-cyrillic 
font-xfree86-type1 xorg-encodings xorg-recordproto xorg-resourceproto 
xorg-scrnsaverproto xorg-videoproto
---  Fetching archive for xorg-applewmproto

. . .

---  Fetching distfiles for xinit
---  Attempting to fetch xinit-1.3.2.tar.bz2 from 
http://ykf.ca.distfiles.macports.org/MacPorts/mpdistfiles/xinit
---  Verifying checksum(s) for xinit
---  Extracting xinit
---  Applying patches to xinit
---  Configuring xinit
---  Building xinit
Error: org.macports.build for port xinit returned: command execution failed
Error: Failed to install xinit
Please see the log file for port xinit for details:

/opt/local/var/macports/logs/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_x11_xinit/xinit/main.log
Error: The following dependencies were not installed: xinit xkeyboard-config 
xkbcomp xorg-libxkbfile xorg-font-util xorg-fonts font-adobe-100dpi bdftopcf 
xorg-libXfont xorg-fontsproto font-adobe-75dpi font-adobe-utopia-100dpi 
font-adobe-utopia-75dpi font-adobe-utopia-type1 font-alias font-arabic-misc 
font-bh-100dpi font-bh-75dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi 
font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi font-bh-ttf font-bh-type1 font-bitstream-100dpi 
font-bitstream-75dpi font-bitstream-speedo font-bitstream-type1 
font-cronyx-cyrillic font-cursor-misc font-daewoo-misc font-dec-misc 
font-ibm-type1 font-isas-misc font-jis-misc font-micro-misc font-misc-cyrillic 
font-misc-ethiopic font-misc-meltho font-misc-misc font-mutt-misc 
font-schumacher-misc font-screen-cyrillic font-sony-misc font-sun-misc 
font-winitzki-cyrillic font-xfree86-type1 xorg-encodings xorg-recordproto 
xorg-resourceproto xorg-scrnsaverproto xorg-videoproto
To report a bug, follow the instructions in the guide:
http://guide.macports.org/#project.tickets
Error: Processing of port xorg-server failed

Sigh... •  Ticket #36640


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I need consultation on running WINE on the Mac

2012-10-16 Thread William H. Magill
I know this is not a MacPorts issue, so please direct this to somewhere that 
makes sense.

Basically, I'm a total newbee when it comes to RAW WINE. I've historically used 
Codeweavers Crossover which is Wine 1.4.1
Which is packaged to run quite nicely under Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

I play LOTRO, which just did a major upgrade, and therefore no longer runs 
under 1.4.1

WINEhq has a fix which requires WINE 1.1.15. 
However, the folks there are al LINUX types.

SO. I just installed MacPorts wine-dev 1.5.15 and now I need to do two 
things. (That I know of.)
1- Find out how to apply the patch (which I believe is a classic diff file)-- I 
have no idea how badly that will break the MacPorts installation.
 
2- Find out how to configure raw WINE  on the mac. In particular how to point 
it to the existing Crossover WINE Bottles.

Pointers to appropriate OSX oriented instructions are desired.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: I need consultation on running WINE on the Mac

2012-10-16 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 16, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:

 I know this is not a MacPorts issue, so please direct this to somewhere that 
 makes sense.
 
 Basically, I'm a total newbee when it comes to RAW WINE. I've historically 
 used Codeweavers Crossover which is Wine 1.4.1
 Which is packaged to run quite nicely under Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
 
 I play LOTRO, which just did a major upgrade, and therefore no longer runs 
 under 1.4.1
 
 WINEhq has a fix which requires WINE 1.1.15. 
 However, the folks there are al LINUX types.
 
 SO. I just installed MacPorts wine-dev 1.5.15 and now I need to do two 
 things. (That I know of.)
 1- Find out how to apply the patch (which I believe is a classic diff 
 file)-- I have no idea how badly that will break the MacPorts installation.
 
 I've just applied it to the wine-crossover port. Seems to work fine.
 
 2- Find out how to configure raw WINE  on the mac. In particular how to 
 point it to the existing Crossover WINE Bottles.
 
 Pointers to appropriate OSX oriented instructions are desired.
 Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 After installing wine-crossover, all you should need to run is (all one
 line, ignore any line breaks inserted by email software):
 
 WINEPREFIX=/Users/you/Library/Application
 Support/CrossOver/Bottles/Lord of the Rings Online wine
 ~/Library/Application\ Support/CrossOver/Bottles/Lord\ of\ the\ Rings\
 Online/drive_c/Program\ Files/PyLotRO/pylotro.exe

Hmmm... seems to partially work...  Keep in mind that I have only ever used 
Crossover, and never raw WINE. 
I did install wine-devel, apparently successfully, which I then uninstalled.

uninstalled wine-devel
sudo port install wine-crossover
   No broken files found.

I have multiple bottles, so I simply modified the paths as necessary.

WINEPREFIX=/Users/magill/Library/Application 
Support/CrossOver/Bottles/LOTRO-4 wine ~/Library/Application\ 
Support/CrossOver/Bottles/LOTRO-4/drive_c/Program\ Files/PyLotRO/pylotro.exe

fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0x0 1 0x0 0
fixme:process:SetProcessDEPPolicy (1): stub
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0x0 1 0x0 0
err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make 
sure that ntlm_auth = 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the 
winbind package of your distribution.
Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
err:systray:initialize_systray Could not create tray window
Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
QEventDispatcher: Failed to create QEventDispatcherWin32 internal window: 1

fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub!
err:module:import_dll Library QtSvg4.dll (which is needed by LC:\\Program 
Files\\PyLotRO\\qt4_plugins\\iconengines\\qsvgicon4.dll) not found
err:module:import_dll Library QtSvg4.dll (which is needed by LC:\\Program 
Files\\PyLotRO\\qt4_plugins\\imageformats\\qsvg4.dll) not found
QWidget::create: Failed to create window (Invalid window handle.)
err:module:import_dll Library QtSvg4.dll (which is needed by LC:\\Program 
Files\\PyLotRO\\qt4_plugins\\iconengines\\qsvgicon4.dll) not found
err:module:import_dll Library QtSvg4.dll (which is needed by LC:\\Program 
Files\\PyLotRO\\qt4_plugins\\iconengines\\qsvgicon4.dll) not found
QWidget::create: Failed to create window ()
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0010 at address 0x6514382d 
(thread 0009), starting debugger...
Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x0010 in 32-bit code 
(0x6514382d).
Register dump:
 CS:001b SS:0023 DS:0023 ES:0023 FS:1007 GS:000f
 EIP:6514382d ESP:0032f0c8 EBP:0032f0d8 EFLAGS:00210246(  R- --  I  Z- -P- )
 EAX:00154ae0 EBX: ECX:00154ae0 EDX:
 ESI:001548b8 EDI:
Stack dump:
...
Threads:
process  tid  prio (all id:s are in hex)
0008 (D) C:\Program Files\PyLotRO\pylotro.exe
00280
00090 ==


 Correct, I have not installed X11, and therefore no X server. However, I 
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Re: anything in MacPorts to repair JPEG images?

2012-09-25 Thread William H. Magill

On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 01:50:29PM -0400, Craig Treleaven wrote:
 
 How big is that file compared to a known-good file?
 
 Broken:  655 kB to 761 kB
 Working:  566 kB to 1 MB
 
 If the file is a reasonable size, maybe try GraphicConverter on it.
 Maybe ImageMagick has more tools; I don't know it at all.
 
 I don't have a GraphicConverter in ports/graphics  I'll try the
 conversion routine in ImageMagick.  And here's what I got:

Graphic converter is not in MacPorts 

The latest version is at: 

http://www.lemkesoft.org

It is also available from the app store.


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Re: Update: Macports does not work on recent Mountain Lion machines

2012-09-15 Thread William H. Magill

On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:45:48AM -0600, John Daschbach wrote:
 I recently posted about my struggles to get macports to work on a 3
 year old iMac with a new clean hard drive and a fresh upgrade to
 Mountain Lion. The issue is that many subjobs called from tcl
 hang/die. This often happens during configure, but sometimes during
 build. Generally it is when clang is being called, but I have now
 seen it with other related sub processes like javac.
 
 I've seen this being reported for a number of processes, e.g., sw_vers.
 There's no much we can do about this, unless we get more information on
 one of the hanging processes. I've previously helped debugging a similar
 case and getting a trace sample showed the process was waiting for some
 IPC[1].

This may or may not be a relevant comment:

I suspect that there is a systemic issue in this  area with OS X 10.8.x

I've been beta testing (NDA now lifted) LOTRO's new Mac Client.

This client as well as the Windows client have been converted over to use
AWESOMIUM. Awesomium spawns 5 processes each time a new graphics zone
is encountered, destroying the previous 5.

At some point this causes the Client to freeze -- you get the infamous 
spinning beach ball.
Also, if you happen to be running Activity Monitor at the same time, it ALSO 
freezes.

All processes show up in Force Quit as Process not responding. And Force quit 
does
not accomplish anything. (The Awesomium processes are sub processes and do not
show up individually in Force Quit.) At this time, 4 cpus on my mid-2010 iMac 
(I7) go all red. 
Other processes, such as the finder, or stickies or Safari, continue to run 
normally. 

However, the only way to get rid of these frozen processes is to reboot. At 
which time you get
a plethora of console messages (I run with nvram boot-args=-v) before the 
box will finally shutdown
and/or reboot. (I don't have a second system with which to capture them, and 
none of the console logs 
appear to capture this portion of the startup/shutdown dialogs. At least I 
haven't found any that match.

Zoning in LOTRO is a common occurrence -- entering or leaving buildings, not 
just geographical areas.
I.e. it happens frequently. Consequently the current MTBF for the LOTRO Clients 
are about 90 minutes.

If I force quit Activity Manager, from what I can tell, it typically reports 
DispatchQueue issues. But then I don't
have a background in reading Apple's crash reports.


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Upgrading to Mountain Lion -- migration document changes?

2012-07-26 Thread William H. Magill
I am about to upgrade to Mountain Lion and I note that the Migration Document 
does not mention anything specifically about it.

Are there any differences or particular changes/gotchas unique to Mountain 
Lion that need to be considered?

I've updated Macports itself and all of my installed ports. 

  sudo port selfupdate 
  sudo port upgrade outdated

Backup (time machine) is now running.

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?? Warning: xcodebuild exists but failed to execute ??

2012-04-10 Thread William H. Magill

I'm curious about the warning message here... it apparently did not bother the 
update, but I find it interesting and would like to know what it implies for 
the future.
Unless of course, it DID cause a problem... 

This is under Lion 10.7.3 with Xcode 7.3.2 and command line tools installed.

Warning: xcodebuild exists but failed to execute

===cut here=
=== making install in tests
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `install'.
[ ! -f /opt/local/etc/macports/mp_version ] || rm -vf 
/opt/local/etc/macports/mp_version
/usr/bin/install -c -o root -g admin -m 444 setupenv.bash  
/opt/local/share/macports/
/usr/bin/install -c -o root -g admin -m 444 macports-pubkey.pem  
/opt/local/share/macports/
Updating home directory location for user macports
/usr/bin/tclsh src/upgrade_sources_conf_default.tcl /opt/local
/usr/bin/tclsh src/images_to_archives.tcl /opt/local/share/macports/Tcl
Warning: xcodebuild exists but failed to execute
This could take a while...

Congratulations, you have successfully upgraded the MacPorts system.


The ports tree has been updated. To upgrade your installed ports, you should run
 port upgrade outdated
===cut here=
 outpost sudo port -v upgrade outdated
Warning: xcodebuild exists but failed to execute
Error: No ports matched the given expression
[/Users/magill] magill 

===cut here=
outpost ls -als /usr/bin/xcodebuild
0 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1086 Feb  2 21:06 /usr/bin/xcodebuild




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An interesting announcement from Apple -- Mountain Lion

2012-02-16 Thread William H. Magill
My RSS link to Apple Hot News contained the following item today: 

 Apple today released a developer preview of OS X Mountain Lion — the ninth 
major release of the world’s most advanced operating system — which brings 
popular apps and features from iPad to the Mac and accelerates the pace of OS X 
innovation. Mountain Lion introduces Messages, Notes, Reminders, and Game 
Center to the Mac, as well as Notification Center, Share Sheets, Twitter 
integration, and AirPlay Mirroring. The preview release of Mountain Lion is 
available to Mac Developer Program members starting today. Mac users will be 
able to upgrade to Mountain Lion from the Mac App Store in late summer 2012.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/?sr=hotnews.rss

The web page is quite interesting -- implying that A LOT of IOS stuff is 
being integrated. The associated video is amazing -- ios apps integrated into 
OSX.

Guess I'm going to be forced into upgrading my iPhone 3Gs and my iPad I --- :)


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Re: strange behavior - PHP question...

2012-01-23 Thread William H. Magill


On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:10 AM, Bjarne D Mathiesen wrote:

 William H. Magill wrote:
 However, when I visit php.net and follow their tutorial, the very first 
 example fails.
 
 ...
 
 What happens is a blank page -- no source code,  no hello world, no 
 errors I can find -- nada.
 php.net implies that something is not configured correctly.
 
 But as I mentioned, phpinfo.php, runs fine and outputs (apparently) valid 
 information.
 
 Any hints on what/where I should look for ?
 
 
 Permission problems on the files and the filepath is the first problem
 I'ld look for. make sure that all folders in the whole path have 'chmod
 a+x' and all files are 'chmod a+r'

Duh … 

My default umask is 077 :)

a+r was the problem.  (both the working and non-working files were in the same 
directory so the path was ok.)

What threw me completely was that I was looking for 404 errors in the access 
log, and instead was getting 500s.

I guess  that's one I'll have to remember.

Thanks!


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strange behavior - PHP question...

2012-01-22 Thread William H. Magill
A retired sysadmin who has been working with Macports since Darwin days --
I am playing with a software package written in php and attempting to learn php 
in the process.

I have installed (and just recently updated Apache2/Mysql5/php via macports 
following the instructions
at http://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/MAMP

All on a Mac mini running 10.6.8 - I'm working remotely on the mini from an 
iMac running 7.2.
Both systems are clean Apple or Macports, without random software installs.

The only non-standard-macports-way I did things was to stick the Apache log 
files under
/var/log so I can read them with console.  

Everything apparently works well and fine. 
All of the tests in that document (MMAP) pass with flying colors, including  
the phpinfo.php test.
And phpmyadmin works as expected.
The package I am playing with also works fine.

However, when I visit php.net and follow their tutorial, the very first example 
fails.

html
head
titlePHP Test/title
/head
body
?php echo 'pHello World/p'; ?
/body
/html

What happens is a blank page -- no source code,  no hello world, no errors 
I can find -- nada.
php.net implies that something is not configured correctly.

But as I mentioned, phpinfo.php, runs fine and outputs (apparently) valid 
information.

Any hints on what/where I should look for ?

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Self update of apache2 overwrites index.html

2011-12-10 Thread William H. Magill
I suspect this should be a bug report ...

Lion 7.2 - Macports 2.0.3

Doing sudo port update outdated when Apache2 is one of the installed ports, 
results in the Apache2 file: /opt/local/apache2/htdocs/index.html being 
overwritten with the sample.

No copy of the original file is maintained.

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Re: Lots and lots of system time

2011-10-29 Thread William H. Magill

On Oct 29, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote:

 Please pardon me if this is off topic, but it is about a phenomenon I
 only see when macports is compiling software: So I'd like to hear if
 other macports users are seeing the same:
 
 Namely, that the majority of CPU time while compiling is system time,
 not user time. Right now, for example, I am compiling gimp2, and top
 says
 
 CPU usage: 10.34% user, 86.20% sys, 3.44% idle
 
 It did not use to be this way. Unfortunately, several things got
 upgraded about the same time, so I am not certain which one to blame:
 The OS to Lion, and XCode and macports itself.
 
 Does anyone else see this? Can you come up with a possible explanation
 off the top of your head?
 
 I thought it might be possible to play around with dtrace to find out
 what system calls are sucking up all the time, but my dtrace-foo is
 rather limited.
 
 The system is a 13 inch MacBook Pro with SSD, not a HD. I have
 full-disk encryption enabled, but I am pretty sure this started before
 I turned it on.

 I have not noticed this particular situation, however based on experiences 
with OSF from years ago,
I know that what is considered System time vs User time is in reality quite 
different than what 
most expect it to be… and easily changed.

Since you indicate that you have an SSD, my immediate assumption goes to What 
does an SSD look
like to the OS?  I do not know the code, but I would guess that an SSD is NOT 
using the same code 
path which a disk uses, but rather that which memory uses. Or put another 
way, all of the structures
which process I/O for a rotating disk have timings in them which are not 
relevant to an SSD, and which
in fact would impede its performance.

So I would assume that the SSD reads/writes are based on memory read/writes 
and are therefore
read as part of System Time.

Quite frankly, I would suspect that Apple's developers never even looked at the 
issue.
For my 40+ yeas in the business ALL accounting is an add-on after thought. 
It is never designed
in from the beginning, and the tools to process what little data is available 
are basically unchanged
since Dennis Richie, et.al first wrote Unix. It is a sad state of affairs, but 
sadly true.

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Re: MacPorts selfupdate fails… cannot write to location

2011-10-01 Thread William H. Magill

On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

 On Sep 13, 2011, at 21:49, William H. Magill wrote:
 This is very weird… True… registry.db does not exist… no idea why unless the 
 previous selfupdate attempt deleted it.
  False… both my userid and root (sudo) can 
 write to the directory.
 -cut here--
 outpost sudo port -v selfupdate
 Password:
 port registry doesn't exist at 
 /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db and couldn't write to this 
 location
 
 [snip]
 
 Note: last activity had been 8 July when I successfully installed iStumbler.
 
 July 8 predates MacPorts 2, unless you were running a beta version of it.
 
 MacPorts 1 by default used a flat registry, not the new SQLite registry 
 mandated by MacPorts 2.
 
 When upgrading to MacPorts 2, it's supposed to detect if you're using the 
 flat registry, and convert it to the new SQLite registry.
 
 It looks like that conversion didn't happen in your case, or at least, didn't 
 happen completely. Or maybe you thought selfupdate was taking too long and 
 you interrupted it? The conversion can take hours depending on how many ports 
 you have installed and how fast your computer is.
 
 In that case, hopefully MacPorts hasn't removed the previous flat registry 
 information, and it should be possible to reset MacPorts so that it tries 
 the conversion again. But I forget how to make it do that.

Returning to a problem I was having earlier before life interrupted ….and am 
still having.

I realize that the registry.db file does not exist. What I don't understand is 
the couldn't write to this location part of the error.

I have no problem simply wiping Mac Ports and sting over but upgrading from 
Snow Leopard (where I had last run Mac Ports 1.9) to Lion and attempting to 
upgrade to MacPorts 2.x should work.
I also realize that the flat registry is/was gone because of a previous failed 
self update… but why can't it write?

=cut here===
outpost sudo port -vd selfupdate
port registry doesn't exist at /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db 
and couldn't write to this location
while executing
registry::open $db_path
(procedure mportinit line 551)
invoked from within
mportinit ui_options global_options global_variations
Error: /opt/local/bin/port: Failed to initialize MacPorts, port registry 
doesn't exist at /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db and couldn't 
write to this location
=cut here===

outpost ls -alse /opt
total 0
0 drwxr-xr-x@  3 magill  admin   102 Aug 27  2009 .
0 drwxr-xr-x@ 32 rootwheel  1156 Aug 17 21:49 ..
0 drwxr-xr-x  13 magill  admin   442 Sep 12 13:45 local
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost ls -alse /opt/local
total 4
0 drwxr-xr-x  13 magill  admin   442 Sep 12 13:45 .
0 drwxr-xr-x@  3 magill  admin   102 Aug 27  2009 ..
0 drwxr-xr-x  28 magill  admin   952 Sep 12 13:45 bin
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Aug 27  2009 etc
0 drwxr-xr-x  23 magill  admin   782 Jun 15 01:37 include
0 drwxr-xr-x  31 magill  admin  1054 Sep 12 13:45 lib
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 libexec
4 lrwxr-xr-x   1 rootadmin 9 Sep 12 13:45 man - share/man
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 sbin
0 drwxr-xr-x   7 magill  admin   238 Sep 12 13:45 share
0 drwxr-xr-x   2 magill  admin68 Sep 12 13:45 src
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 var
0 drwxr-xr-x   2 magill  admin68 Sep 12 13:45 www
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost ls -alse /opt/local/var
total 0
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin  102 Nov  7  2010 .
0 drwxr-xr-x  13 magill  admin  442 Sep 12 13:45 ..
0 drwxr-xr-x  12 magill  admin  408 Sep 12 13:45 macports
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost ls -alse /opt/local/var/macports
total 16
 0 drwxr-xr-x  12 magill  admin   408 Sep 12 13:45 .
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 ..
 4 -rw-r--r--   1 rootadmin13 Sep 12 13:45 .tclpackage
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Jul  8 14:03 build
 0 drwxr-xr-x   4 magill  admin   136 Jul  8 14:03 distfiles
 0 drwxr-xr-x   2 magill  admin68 Jul  8 14:03 logs
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 rootadmin   102 Nov  7  2010 packages
12 -r--r--r--   1 magill  admin  9851 Sep 12 13:45 port-help.tcl
 0 drwxr-xr-x   6 rootadmin   204 Jul  8 14:03 receipts
 0 drwxr-xr-x   4 magill  admin   136 Sep 13 22:39 registry
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Jul  8 14:03 software
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 rootadmin   102 Jun 15 01:37 sources
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost ls -alse /opt/local/var/macports/registry
total 0
0 drwxr-xr-x   4 magill  admin  136 Sep 13 22:39 .
0 drwxr-xr-x  12 magill  admin  408 Sep 12 13:45 ..
0 -rw-r--r--   1 rootadmin0 Jul  8 14:03 .registry.lock
0 -rw-rw-r--   1 rootadmin0 Nov  7  2010 .turd_MacPorts
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Re: MacPorts selfupdate fails… v 1.9.2 to 2.0.3 w Xcode 4.1 - OSX 10.7.1

2011-09-13 Thread William H. Magill

On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 On Sep 12, 2011, at 14:54, William H. Magill wrote:
 
 ==
 # 27 inch iMac Intel (mid 2010) - 27 inch diagonal screen - Acquired 6/2011
 Model
 Processor 2.93 GHz Intel Core i7
 Memory  4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
 Graphics  ATI Radeon HD 5750 1024 MB
 Display   27-inch (2560 x 1440)
 Software  Mac OS X Lion 10.7.1 (11B26)
 ==
 After failing to selfupdate under Xcode 4.0.2, I updated Xcode to 4.1 from 
 the App Store, I got the same error as before (below), however the log file 
 (below) as several different errors in it.
 
 I also note that, other than what appear to be normal config failures, no 
 errors are reported.
 
 
 outpost sudo port selfupdate
 Password:
 ---  Updating the ports tree
 ---  Updating MacPorts base sources using rsync
 MacPorts base version 1.9.2 installed,
 MacPorts base version 2.0.3 downloaded.
 ---  MacPorts base is outdated, installing new version 2.0.3
 Installing new MacPorts release in /opt/local as magill:admin; permissions 
 0755; Tcl-Package in /Library/Tcl
 
 Error: /opt/local/bin/port: port selfupdate failed: Error installing new 
 MacPorts base: shell command failed (see log for details)
 [/opt/local] magill 
 
 cut here-
 outpost ls -als  
 ./var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/base/config.log
 60 -rw-r--r--  1 root  admin  58749 Sep 12 13:45 
 ./var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/base/config.log
 
 outpost more  
 ./var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/base/config.log
 This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
 running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
 
 
 [snip]
 
 Right, the config.log only tells you about what happened during the configure 
 phase, which appears to have completed just fine. Presumably an error is 
 happening in a later phase, like the build phase. Re-run selfupdate with the 
 verbose flag to see what's happening.
 
 sudo port -v selfupdate

This is very weird… True… registry.db does not exist… no idea why unless the 
previous selfupdate attempt deleted it.
   False… both my userid and root (sudo) can 
write to the directory.
-cut here--
 outpost sudo port -v selfupdate
Password:
port registry doesn't exist at /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db 
and couldn't write to this location
while executing
registry::open $db_path
(procedure mportinit line 551)
invoked from within
mportinit ui_options global_options global_variations
Error: /opt/local/bin/port: Failed to initialize MacPorts, port registry 
doesn't exist at /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db and couldn't 
write to this location
[/Users/magill] magill 


outpost ls -alse /opt
total 0
0 drwxr-xr-x@  3 magill  admin   102 Aug 27  2009 .
0 drwxr-xr-x@ 32 rootwheel  1156 Aug 17 21:49 ..
0 drwxr-xr-x  13 magill  admin   442 Sep 12 13:45 local
[/opt/local/var/macports] magill 
 outpost ls -alse /opt/local
total 4
0 drwxr-xr-x  13 magill  admin   442 Sep 12 13:45 .
0 drwxr-xr-x@  3 magill  admin   102 Aug 27  2009 ..
0 drwxr-xr-x  28 magill  admin   952 Sep 12 13:45 bin
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Aug 27  2009 etc
0 drwxr-xr-x  23 magill  admin   782 Jun 15 01:37 include
0 drwxr-xr-x  31 magill  admin  1054 Sep 12 13:45 lib
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 libexec
4 lrwxr-xr-x   1 rootadmin 9 Sep 12 13:45 man - share/man
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 sbin
0 drwxr-xr-x   7 magill  admin   238 Sep 12 13:45 share
0 drwxr-xr-x   2 magill  admin68 Sep 12 13:45 src
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 var
0 drwxr-xr-x   2 magill  admin68 Sep 12 13:45 www
[/opt/local/var/macports] magill 
 outpost ls -alse /opt/local/var/   
total 0
0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin  102 Nov  7  2010 .
0 drwxr-xr-x  13 magill  admin  442 Sep 12 13:45 ..
0 drwxr-xr-x  12 magill  admin  408 Sep 12 13:45 macports
[/opt/local/var/macports] magill 
 outpost ls -alse /opt/local/var/macports
total 16
 0 drwxr-xr-x  12 magill  admin   408 Sep 12 13:45 .
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Nov  7  2010 ..
 4 -rw-r--r--   1 rootadmin13 Sep 12 13:45 .tclpackage
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Jul  8 14:03 build
 0 drwxr-xr-x   4 magill  admin   136 Jul  8 14:03 distfiles
 0 drwxr-xr-x   2 magill  admin68 Jul  8 14:03 logs
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 rootadmin   102 Nov  7  2010 packages
12 -r--r--r--   1 magill  admin  9851 Sep 12 13:45 port-help.tcl
 0 drwxr-xr-x   6 rootadmin   204 Jul  8 14:03 receipts
 0 drwxr-xr-x   4 magill  admin   136 Sep 13 22:39 registry
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 magill  admin   102 Jul  8 14:03 software
 0 drwxr-xr-x   3 rootadmin   102 Jun 15 01:37 sources
[/opt/local/var/macports] magill 
 outpost ls

FYI - MacPorts selfupdate fails… v 1.9.2 to 2.0.3 .. no log file produced (in an obvious place) w Xcode 4.0.2 - OSX 10.7.1

2011-09-12 Thread William H. Magill
='${docdir}'
sbindir='${exec_prefix}/sbin'
sharedstatedir='${prefix}/com'
subdirs=''
sysconfdir='${prefix}/etc'
target='i386-apple-darwin11.1.0'
target_alias=''
target_cpu='i386'
target_os='darwin11.1.0'
target_vendor='apple'

## --- ##
## confdefs.h. ##
## --- ##

/* confdefs.h */
#define PACKAGE_NAME MacPorts
#define PACKAGE_TARNAME macports
#define PACKAGE_VERSION 2.0.3
#define PACKAGE_STRING MacPorts 2.0.3
#define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT macports-...@lists.macosforge.org
#define PACKAGE_URL 

configure: exit 77
[/opt/local] magill 
-cut here--

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does istumbler actually install?

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Magill
Theoretically, I just installed istumbler  after doing a port seflupdate

outpost sudo port install istumbler
---  Fetching istumbler
---  Attempting to fetch istumbler-98.tgz from 
http://lil.fr.distfiles.macports.org/istumbler
---  Verifying checksum(s) for istumbler
---  Extracting istumbler
---  Configuring istumbler
---  Building istumbler
---  Staging istumbler into destroot
---  Installing istumbler @98_0+universal+use_binary
---  Activating istumbler @98_0+universal+use_binary
---  Cleaning istumbler
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost which istumbler
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost istumbler
-bash: istumbler: command not found
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost which istumbler
[/Users/magill] magill 
 outpost echo $PATH
/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/bin:/usr/local1/bin:/opt/local/bin:/Users/magill/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local1/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/local/etc:/usr/local1/etc
[/Users/magill] magill 


And yes, it is definitely not in either /opt/local/bin or /opt/local/sbin

[/opt] magill 
 outpost find . -name \*istumbler\* -print
./local/var/macports/distfiles/istumbler
./local/var/macports/distfiles/istumbler/istumbler-98.tgz
./local/var/macports/receipts/istumbler
./local/var/macports/software/istumbler
./local/var/macports/software/istumbler/98_0+universal+use_binary/Applications/MacPorts/iStumbler.app/Contents/Resources/istumbler-logo.icns
./local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/aqua/istumbler



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Re: does istumbler actually install?

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Magill

On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Perry Lee wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:13 AM, William H. Magill mag...@me.com wrote:
 And yes, it is definitely not in either /opt/local/bin or /opt/local/sbin
 
 Check /Applications/MacPorts

Aha... a totally unexpected location:)

BTW..  on launch it promptly tells me there is a new version .. iStumbler 99.



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Re: does istumbler actually install?

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Magill

On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Scott Webster wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, William H. Magill mag...@me.com wrote:
 
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Perry Lee wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:13 AM, William H. Magill mag...@me.com wrote:
 And yes, it is definitely not in either /opt/local/bin or /opt/local/sbin
 
 Check /Applications/MacPorts
 
 Aha... a totally unexpected location:)
 
 BTW..  on launch it promptly tells me there is a new version .. iStumbler 99.
 
 
 
 port contents istumbler would probably have told you where the
 executable went.  If you want the new version in macports you could
 file a ticket requesting an update on the trac system

It does  in a very verbose fashion!

No point asking for an update now ... iStumbler 10 is due out, apparently 
whenever lion ships.
(Although, depending on how long it takes to get the update, the lion release 
may actually happen sooner.)


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How does one add multiple email addresses for list authentication?

2011-06-21 Thread William H. Magill
Is it possible to add multiple email addresses to the mailing list. 

I can't find any option on the lists.macforge.org page that even implies it 
is possible. Is it?


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Re: Postfix (Fetchmail and Dovecote) on OSX 10.6.7 ???

2011-06-21 Thread William H. Magill
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Re: Postfix (Fetchmail and Dovecote) on OSX 10.6.7 ???

2011-06-17 Thread William H. Magill

On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:58 AM, Bjarne D Mathiesen wrote:

 William H. Magill wrote:
 
 But what are your ambitions ???
 Mine are rather extensive, as I need to set up several virtual domains,
 so it's my intension to use postfix with either mysql5 or postgresql90.
 
 I run my own domain ... mcgillsociety.org
 
 My current mail server is an old Dec Alpha running Tru64 Unix and UW/IMAP.
 
 I also run a webserver on my Mac Mini using the MacPorts Apache2/PHP/MySQL5 
 installation.
 
 I assume, but don't know that the mail.app on that mini uses postfix to 
 query the Alpha IMAP server
 but don't know how Mail.app works in that regard.
 
 If it is using Postfix, I don't know, but assume, it is using the native OSX 
 Postfix as I presently have
 both it and the MacPorts version installed and have not done anything to the 
 OSX installation.
 
 nope -- Mail.app doesn't use postfix in any way
 
 Mail.app is a MUA (Mail User Agent)
 postfix  is a MTA (Mail Transfer Agent)
 completely similiar in fuctionality to sendmail
 actually, Mail.app isn't able to talk to postfix at all unless one
 installs a POP3/IMAP server also - this is why one also needs Dovecot
 
 the process is this (simplified):
 sending  email : MUA - MTA
 transferring email : MTA - MTA - ... - MTA
 receivingemail : MUA - PO3/IMAP - MTA
 using fetchmail: MUA - fetchmail - POP3/IMAP - MTA

 seems you might need to get mail transferred from me.com  gmail.com as


I was pretty sure that was what was happening/needed... from the descriptions I 
saw, one
needed Dovecot and likely Fetchmail (to have the server collect the mail from 
gmail/me.com).

Also, got this comment from Andrew Long...

On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Andrew Long wrote:

 
 On 16 Jun 2011, at 20:00, William H. Magill wrote:
 
 Is anyone working Postfix on OSX? (10.6.7)
 
 The basic problem is I know virtually nothing about Postfix. There was a 
 time when I was pretty conversant with sendmail on Tru64 Uinx and FreeBSD, 
 but that was 10+ years ago:)
 
 I tried to get postfix running many years ago, after moving from Linux to 
 OS/X. I stumbled at the first hurdle as the inbuilt DNS client wouldn't 
 retrieve MX information for target mail domains (it was just requesting 
 information from the piss-poor DNS client in my router) and I just gave up 
 trying to get a real DNS system installed on the Mac... however, that was 
 back under Tiger, the situation may have improved since then ;-)
 
 Regards, Andy
 
 -- 
 Andrew Long
 andrew dot long at mac dot com



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Postfix (Fetchmail and Dovecote) on OSX 10.6.7 ???

2011-06-16 Thread William H. Magill
Is anyone working Postfix on OSX? (10.6.7)The basic problem is I know virtually nothing about Postfix. There was a time when I was pretty conversant with sendmail on Tru64 Uinx and FreeBSD, but that was 10+ years ago:)The MacPorts-WIKI How-To document is 3+ years old ... I began trying to update it somewhat (again), but have discovered that getting postfix running is more than slightly difficult...The port installs and updates, (i.e. selfupdate runs with no complaints and my Apache/MySQL/PHP installation updates ok) but that's about all I can say.I assume there is something "obvious" that I'm missing between Unix(tm) and OSX, that is causing particular issues... like the fact that (apparently) nothing is getting logged anywhere that I can find.Any help appreciatedBill Magill___
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Re: Postfix (Fetchmail and Dovecote) on OSX 10.6.7 ???

2011-06-16 Thread William H. Magill

On Jun 16, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

 William == William H Magill mag...@me.com writes:
 
 William Is anyone working Postfix on OSX? (10.6.7)
 
 Postfix is part of the base install of OSX.  No need for a port any more.

Except that it still exists and is current:

 port list | grep postfix
 postfix@2.8.3  mail/postfix


That's also true for a number of items in the MacPorts portfolio -- Apache and 
Perl are two which immediately come to mind...

However,  my problem remains...

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